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Topic Originator: 2004Par
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:45
So far a shocking appointment, I would have McLaughlin back in a heart beat.I never thought I could see worse football than us under mcpake but he has some how made us even worse.No goals in 5 games,players looking disinterested and this awful tippy tappy passing from the back which only teams like Barcelona,Real Madrid etc can master.
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:47
Said it at the time but all the happy clappers defended his lack of experience or calibre at this level. We are absolutely stinking and the seaside league now awaits
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:49
He’s out his depth and needs to go. He’s been in charge for 8 games and we’ve only scored in 2 of them.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:49
Quote:
Big G Ball, Tue 25 Feb 21:47
Said it at the time but all the happy clappers defended his lack of experience or calibre at this level. We are absolutely stinking and the seaside league now awaits
Cry me a river with this "happy clappers" nonsense.
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:51
He`s a pihs appointment. Said it at the time.
Still, he`ll be patted on the back by some for keeping the team in the division. Maybe.
Promotion is a LONG way off.
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:54
Tidser has to go this style of play is killing us This playing out from the back needs to stop .We are in a relegation dog fight .We just need to get the ball forward as quickly as possible .
nazpar
Post Edited (Tue 25 Feb 21:55)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:55
Topic Originator: Doves like
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:51
He`s a pihs appointment. Said it at the time.
Still, he`ll be patted on the back by some for keeping the team in the division. Maybe.
Promotion is a LONG way off.
They way things are going he won’t be getting a pat on the back then.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:56
Yeah can’t imagine any fans are looking forward to more of the same on Saturday and if that game goes against us attendances will plummet and fast.
Said it at the time, raw untried youngsters are not what we needed as there’s not enough quality around them. We got lucky that mullan looks decent but the rest offering nothing and of course the usual suspects continue to turn out the dross that they have been doing for years.
Our only hope is tidser ditching the current nonsense and the owners brining in another 2-3 experienced pro’son loan who can make a difference.
Yeboah is the new Josh coley, McCann absolute terrible again. Wotherspoon just wants to retire and it’s all looking like an experiment going spectacularly wrong.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:57
Let’s face it though , he’s not going to go, 2 months into a 2.5 year deal
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:57
There should be a clause in his contract that allows us to part ways with him without compensation if we are relegated this season.
Why appoint someone who would clearly have said in his interview that he only plays one way? We needed someone who is willing to adapt to who and how we are playing.
McPake 2.0
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Tue 25 Feb 21:59
We have a great support and our fans
deserve a lot better. We have been rotten
for years, and we cannot choose a decent
manager. It always seem the cheap option.
For the sake of our beloved football team,
bite the bullet and get Ian Murray in now.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:01
Murray should have been appointed at the time. Missed opportunity not getting him in.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:05
Based on what we’ve seen so far, Tidser will take us down.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:07
I would have loved McCabe to come in and said it at the time. His stock had dropped at the time due to Airdrie’s poor form but he had the punching massively above their weight for the last two seasons. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them finish 8th now with the run they’re on. Tidser was a surprise at first but the longer it went on, then more I just wanted to see the deal get completed. He came in saying the right things but has been proven to be well out his depth with a complete lack of tactical intelligence. No one will judge him for finally admitting his tactics he is so stubborn to stick to aren’t working. The aim is to stay up and there is no way we’re doing that playing this style. He needs to be realistic and accept relegation is heavily on the cards. We should be looking to Connor Young’s strengths and playing in a way to ensure he’ll score goals.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:09
His appointment is reminding me more and more of the Tam Forsyth period and that was utterly abysmal.
I would dismiss him tomorrow and all who were recommenders/authorisers.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:10
Saw an interview at the weekend, talking about Amorin (sp) at Man U. If you set out your stall re style of play and you change it then you are dead in the water. They are a stubborn bunch are managers, best get used to it. This is as good as it will get this year. Welcome to league one
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:11
Sack tidser. He should never have been given the job in the first place and I said that at the time. Wrote it off as a bad job. He will take us down playing his tippy tappy aimless pihs.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:14
Kelty have lost all 4 games since Tidser left , can we give him back , not fussed about the compensation, they can keep it .
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:17
Surely we could offer him as a friendly loan gesture to our tinky neighbours
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:19
Cannot say I was enamoured with his appointment but was willing to give him the chance , Already we can see the style of play he is wanting us to do is no good at present with the players we have , time for that when we are safe but looks highly unlikely at present , we cannot beat a Terrible Hamilton team , so what chance have we got against other teams ? Airdrie are defo hot on our heels , they are now winning games and we have a team that cannot score in a brothel ! unless we go up a few gears this saturday and actually create some chances and take them there is only one way we are heading ! as others have said it is like watching a Mcpake team just now ,
really pi55ed off just now and I dare say many others will be feeling the same , we supporters deserve a little better than we are getting served up at present
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:30
Really wanted to give the guy a chance, but he is taking us down , I don`t believe managers know best , when 4000 fans can see this type of football , doesn`t work , no coaching badges make it right .
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:49
I think he’s been given a freebie. This season has been written off. Certain players earmarked for the bin. Can’t teach old dogs new skills, especially the ones we’ve got.
Summer start. Cheap option drop a division produce a team using “new” management skill protocols.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 25 Feb 22:56
Maybe he has been given a Freebie par-ticular but if we drop a division how many fans are going to disappear ?
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 25 Feb 23:02
Dreadful appointment. Knew it would be. Guy has done absolutely nothing to warrant a full-time gig.
We are in a lose-lose situation. We fail, we are playing League 1 football. Stay up, and we have him in charge for a season. He is clearly out his depth. Pumped off the two worst teams in the league. The dire times just keeps rolling on if you are a Pars fan. We must be the worst run club in British football. All the tools are there to be reasonably successful, but we seem hell-bent on running the club in to oblivion. Sick of it.
Post Edited (Tue 25 Feb 23:04)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Tue 25 Feb 23:11
Row zz, this is exactly how I feel. Crap managerial appointments and p*** poor player recruitment have destroyed us for decades.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Tue 25 Feb 23:31
I had hoped to give Tidser a fair opportunity! I discovered on the day of the Falkirk match that he would be joining us, and I was profoundly disappointed by the apparent lack of ambition the club demonstrated in appointing him. As time progressed and the delay in his arrival continued, coupled with the improvement in form under John, I found myself eagerly anticipating what might unfold. However, witnessing our 3-0 defeat against Airdrie away left me unimpressed, and since then, I have harbored doubts about his capabilities and don’t think he’s the right man for us . Tonight`s performance was a disgrace. In the two matches where we desperately needed results, against Airdrie away and Hamilton, he has failed us. We must secure wins over these teams to avoid relegation. I fear he will lead us to that unfortunate fate. He merely sits in the dugout, offering no guidance or support to the players when he should be on the touchline, providing direction and encouragement. There is a palpable lack of passion emanating from the manager, which is hardly surprising given that the players reflect the same as him. While Tidser may articulate a compelling vision, his actions to date suggest he is at a loss. It must be said that I have came home from tonight`s game with heightened emotions, hence this outburst.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Tue 25 Feb 23:54
By far the worst team in the Championship at the moment , being dragged down by a clueless manager that believes his own crap , i often wonder what our " or Cooks " criteria for appointing a new manager is. there doesn,t seem to be an interview process we just seem to pluck a name out out of a hat this guy should not be anywhere near a club with a history and Fanbase like ours , division 1 beckons im afraid COYP
Post Edited (Tue 25 Feb 23:55)
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Tue 25 Feb 23:55
I take my hat off to Tidser for being ‘open and honest’ the Players need to wake up, or move out! No spirit, no fight!
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Wed 26 Feb 01:09
Out of his depth
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Wed 26 Feb 04:17
I really want this to work. I love the idea of a young manager guiding us to a great playing style and success. But thinking about it without emotion, English Premier League sides, when in trouble, go and get someone like Sean Dyche or Sam Allardyce to guide them to safety and afford them the chance to decide long term.
I`m torn because our fans are famously impatient/fickle, he`s very young and he`s trying to introduce a style to a team who are on their 3rd coach this year. That being said, when I watch his interviews he comes across so serious that I can see a world where the enjoyment that McLaughlin brought has been immediately been replaced by tension and pressure. Ultimately I`ve no idea. We need a result at the weekend because the teams on either side of us are showing signs of life and we`re showing the opposite.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 26 Feb 06:41
Quote:
Row_ZZ, Tue 25 Feb 23:02
Dreadful appointment. Knew it would be. Guy has done absolutely nothing to warrant a full-time gig.
We are in a lose-lose situation. We fail, we are playing League 1 football. Stay up, and we have him in charge for a season. He is clearly out his depth. Pumped off the two worst teams in the league. The dire times just keeps rolling on if you are a Pars fan. We must be the worst run club in British football. All the tools are there to be reasonably successful, but we seem hell-bent on running the club in to oblivion. Sick of it.
Sums it up for me.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 26 Feb 07:01
Stubbornly sticking to a playing style that is ill-suited to the league he’s in, the players at his disposal, creates minimal chances and is tedious to watch. And, as is apparent from his interview, isn’t working coz the players aren’t trying hard enough.
Take Bene for example. Made a good career out of heading it, kicking it and being in the right place at the right time. He’s totally unsettled him asking him to be Beckenbaur.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 26 Feb 07:47
I just watched an interview between Neil Warnock and Pep Guardiola. They both agreed that no matter how much you want to, you can never throw your players under the bus. The writing is on the wall.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Wed 26 Feb 08:03
We now find ourselves as a yoyo club. Upon reflection, I now compare us to Alloa, the Queen of the South, in terms of our external fanbase. With Airdrie possessing a game in hand and finding their stride at a crucial juncture, I foresee our automatic relegation.
I cannot envision Tidser reversing our fortunes. While I wish for his success, my convictions do not support it. The fans have utterly lost faith in him, and I can only speculate how the players perceive his leadership. His defeats against Airdrie and Hamilton during this pivotal season are simply unacceptable. He must secure wins against the teams in proximity to us, yet he has consistently failed to do so. Regardless of the number of matches he has managed, he does not possess the skill set for this level.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Wed 26 Feb 08:22
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Wed 26 Feb 08:03
We now find ourselves as a yoyo club. Upon reflection, I now compare us to Alloa, the Queen of the South, in terms of our external fanbase. With Airdrie possessing a game in hand and finding their stride at a crucial juncture, I foresee our automatic relegation.
I cannot envision Tidser reversing our fortunes. While I wish for his success, my convictions do not support it. The fans have utterly lost faith in him, and I can only speculate how the players perceive his leadership. His defeats against Airdrie and Hamilton during this pivotal season are simply unacceptable. He must secure wins against the teams in proximity to us, yet he has consistently failed to do so. Regardless of the number of matches he has managed, he does not possess the skill set for this level.
We might be poor just now but the comparisons are wild. Pretty ridiculous post to be honest.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 26 Feb 08:33
I was alright with his appointment but was concerned when he started on about "sticking to his philosophy", in danger of relegation is a scrap, not a time to slavishly stick to a "philosophy".
Then to find out his philosophy is the exact same as McPakes is scunnering.
4 weeks in and he`s chucking players under the bus.
He`s going to relegate us and be arrogant about it.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 26 Feb 08:52
You`d hope and assume someone coming into the club in it`s current state would be doing all the cliched pragmatic stuff ala Samn Allardyce kind of thing.
Fitness, set pieces (at both ends), hard to break down....ie all the stuff you can realistically change and improve in a short space of time on the training pitch with the tools at your disposal with possibly one or two seasoned pro`s added in for the battle ahead.
Not easy on the eye but a means to an end given the teams situation and league position.
This seems the polar opposite of that.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:11
Quote:
Hunter78, Wed 26 Feb 08:22
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Wed 26 Feb 08:03
We now find ourselves as a yoyo club. Upon reflection, I now compare us to Alloa, the Queen of the South, in terms of our external fanbase. With Airdrie possessing a game in hand and finding their stride at a crucial juncture, I foresee our automatic relegation.
I cannot envision Tidser reversing our fortunes. While I wish for his success, my convictions do not support it. The fans have utterly lost faith in him, and I can only speculate how the players perceive his leadership. His defeats against Airdrie and Hamilton during this pivotal season are simply unacceptable. He must secure wins against the teams in proximity to us, yet he has consistently failed to do so. Regardless of the number of matches he has managed, he does not possess the skill set for this level.
We might be poor just now but the comparisons are wild. Pretty ridiculous post to be honest.
We are on the brink of a potential third relegation in a decade. My statement may seem extreme when comparing us against clubs like Alloa and Queen of the South, but it accurately reflects my sentiments regarding our current situation.
Our club appears to be devoid of ambition, which is evident from the mismanagement we have endured over the past ten years. I find it difficult to believe that Tidser will foster a sense of unity within the squad following his remarks after the match. The progress that JM made with the players during his three games has been all but undone by Tidser. The disparity in the team’s performance between his last five games and John`s three is striking.
If we continue on this trajectory, Tidser will undoubtedly lead us to relegation. I foresee us struggling to amass many points in our upcoming five matches. He needs to secure an additional 16 points to reach the safety threshold of 40. Based on his average points per game during his tenure, we are likely to finish with only 30 points.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:27
Are you getting these posts from chatgpt?
What a world class slaver
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:28
Will be an interesting team selection for Saturday after that interview….
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:31
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Wed 26 Feb 08:03
We now find ourselves as a yoyo club. Upon reflection, I now compare us to Alloa, the Queen of the South, in terms of our external fanbase. With Airdrie possessing a game in hand and finding their stride at a crucial juncture, I foresee our automatic relegation.
I cannot envision Tidser reversing our fortunes. While I wish for his success, my convictions do not support it. The fans have utterly lost faith in him, and I can only speculate how the players perceive his leadership. His defeats against Airdrie and Hamilton during this pivotal season are simply unacceptable. He must secure wins against the teams in proximity to us, yet he has consistently failed to do so. Regardless of the number of matches he has managed, he does not possess the skill set for this level.
This is a good post. It’s a hard pill to swallow but that’s our level now. We’re just competing to stay in the Scottish Championship and maybe having a decent season in League 1.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:35
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:27
Are you getting these posts from chatgpt?
What a world class slaver
Constructive.
Why don`t you offer why he`s slavering instead of constant glibness?
We get relegated again we very much are a seaside league yoyo team, no?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:45
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 26 Feb 09:35
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:27
Are you getting these posts from chatgpt?
What a world class slaver
Constructive.
Why don`t you offer why he`s slavering instead of constant glibness?
We get relegated again we very much are a seaside league yoyo team, no?
Sorry, apologies. I really mean that.
Just totally pissed off.
Apologies to Ross as well
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:47
Quote:
parsmad68, Wed 26 Feb 09:28
Will be an interesting team selection for Saturday after that interview….
Well he may not have many options to change it, based on what was on the bench and our injury situation.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:55
Our highest finish since administration is 4th in the championship, it really is a sorry state of affairs. Falkirk have been mince for years and over the course of 2 years are looking at consecutive promotions.
I know some of our own fans say we are a fickle bunch, but given the backing this club has received we`re an embarrassment. Hamilton are an absolute car crash of a club, and we`ve just gifted them the easiest 3 points they`ll get all season. It`s hard not to get scunnered being a pars supporter, the team lets you down constantly.
Tidser has lost to both Airdrie and Hamilton without scoring a goal. Surely someone has to wake up and smell the coffee that we were doing something right when McLaughlin was interim coach.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Wed 26 Feb 09:56
You can`t just expect a team to gel instantly with so many changes so we just have to be patient
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 26 Feb 10:10
Unfortunately, time isn’t on our side. March might well decide our fate. You can only pi$$ with the c*ck you’ve got - that means using a system that suits the players rather than sticking to a philosophy that’s not working.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 26 Feb 10:13
From the outside looking in, there seems to be some parallels with what is happening at Man Utd with Amorim?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Wed 26 Feb 10:16
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:45
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 26 Feb 09:35
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:27
Are you getting these posts from chatgpt?
What a world class slaver
Constructive.
Why don`t you offer why he`s slavering instead of constant glibness?
We get relegated again we very much are a seaside league yoyo team, no?
Sorry, apologies. I really mean that.
Just totally pissed off.
Apologies to Ross as well
Tensions are running high among us. No apologies are necessary. As fans, we are experiencing continuous disappointment . The match last night sent my mind into a whirlwind of thoughts. As I mentioned in the forum, I remained awake until after 2 AM, unable to stop thinking about the game and our circumstances.
I can accept defeat if we have played well. I do not mind leaving a match with the satisfaction of knowing we gave it our all. Yet, from my m point of view in the stands, I can feel my frustration boil within me.
Like many fans, we continue to invest our time, money and hopes only to be repeatedly let down.
I also apologise for expressing more negativity than positivity. I tend to share my thoughts primarily when I am upset, using it as an outlet to vent my frustrations.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 26 Feb 10:25
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:45
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 26 Feb 09:35
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 26 Feb 09:27
Are you getting these posts from chatgpt?
What a world class slaver
Constructive.
Why don`t you offer why he`s slavering instead of constant glibness?
We get relegated again we very much are a seaside league yoyo team, no?
Sorry, apologies. I really mean that.
Just totally pissed off.
Apologies to Ross as well
Same, really angry after last night, from performance to interview really bad signs.
The more I see his interview the angrier I get.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Wed 26 Feb 10:32)
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Topic Originator: p4r5f4n
Date: Wed 26 Feb 10:47
I was just behind the goals and had the misfortune to watch the goal kick routine repeatedly. They go through exactly the same routine by numbers while the other team take up position to counter what’s inevitably going to happen. The ball is passed back and forward without them even looking up before they eventually pass out to one of the wing backs
Watching our pathetic attacks. Hamilton simply packed the defence and left two up wide. There was no way we were going to pass our way through that mass of players and when we inevitably lost the ball they were two on two in their attack. Totally pathetic tactics and now Tidser is blaming the players. Quite simply if Tidser is imposing tactics on players who are not capable of carrying them out he is not fit to be head coach. A coach has to use what he has got to the best of his and his players abilities not continue with an unrealistic ‘philosophy’.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Wed 26 Feb 11:14
He needs to use JMcL to get this team performing until the end of the season. No more passing from the back and not getting forward 🤬.
I’m sure Ian Murray would have got things moving.
No leader in the boardroom, no leader in management team and no leader on the park. Is it a wonder we are where we are!
As for chopping and changing the team let’s get a settled 11. Like to see Fogarty with Mullen in central defence and hopefully Kane and McCann up front (both can score). Get Tansen, Otoo and Steven’s moving that ball forward quickly and get players in the opposition box.
We have some decent players and we have to beat Morton on Saturday or that’s it, I think.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 26 Feb 11:17
I didn`t see the game but even Hamilton fans are saying they only won because we were terrible.
I`ve listened to Tidser`s comments. While I don`t necessarily agree with chucking people under the bus, what he says is pretty revealing. It sounds like, as was suspected under McPake, there are too many journeymen just here to collect a wage. He highlights how well treated they are. Even if some of these guys are headed out the door, they surely need to realise that downing tools won`t make them an attractive prospect? Some of them would be lucky to get a game at Cowdenbeath the way they`re playing. Would they be getting decent wages, support packages and training facilities at smaller clubs? Absolutely not.
In my eyes there are likely two outcomes of Tidser`s rant - either a player takes it on the chin and cracks on, or they sulk about it and accept they`re off on loan/signed to a second division team.
The buck doesn`t just stop with the players though. Tidser mentions the coaching etc. These guys need the basics drilled into them. We`ve got a fair few people in the door and it`ll take time to get them up to speed. We need that asap.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 26 Feb 11:28
I don`t get the impression that the players aren`t trying as Tidser repeatedly eludes to. I don`t sense a lack of effort, If I did, believe me, I`d be fuming. I think some players aren`t that good, some are off form, some are past their best, but their effort is not something I`m questioning.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 26 Feb 11:45
"I think he’s been given a freebie. This season has been written off. Certain players earmarked for the bin. Can’t teach old dogs new skills, especially the ones we’ve got.
Summer start. Cheap option drop a division produce a team using “new” management skill protocols"
had assurances this was a long term plan or something like that is what he said in his first interview. that first week the new owners and board should have been on a massive PR offensive especially given the criticism of the prospect of the appointment never mind it actually happening, what the plans are, this is why we are doing this etc etc.....nearly 6 weeks on and there was 1 line from Cook when Connor Young signed, maybe something will come out eventually but its far far far too late now.
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