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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 20 Apr 00:05
Well amost safe, bit would we in this position under tidser or macpake. Sadly no.
I never rated Lenton as a player, but he has grown on me as a manager. Good man management, good motivation, not yet seen great tactics, but probably due to players. Ok results against the better teams.
So we`ll done Neil, hope you stay.
Post Edited (Sun 20 Apr 00:06)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 20 Apr 07:21
5 league games under Lenny, won 2 lost 2 and drawn one. Scored in just 2 out of 5 games. Not amazing but an improvement over Tidser anyway. Mcpake might not have been far behind had he had Mullen.
Looking forward to seeing what he can do with some of his own players for sure. Not too impressed with whatever the plan is/was with wanyama though how he thinks he’s fit enough for game time.
Going by the talk about out wage budget for next season we might be steamrollering teams next season but if we spend the cash he’ll be under pressure to have us right up there.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 20 Apr 07:53
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 20 Apr 07:21
5 league games under Lenny, won 2 lost 2 and drawn one. Scored in just 2 out of 5 games. Not amazing but an improvement over Tidser anyway. Mcpake might not have been far behind had he had Mullen.
Looking forward to seeing what he can do with some of his own players for sure. Not too impressed with whatever the plan is/was with wanyama though how he thinks he’s fit enough for game time.
Going by the talk about out wage budget for next season we might be steamrolling teams next season but if we spend the cash he’ll be under pressure to have us right up there.
The problem he had is he was lumbered with a team with no pace and very little to no quality in the final third. Thanks to mcpake offering mental new deal to players nowhere near good enough for the championship. Tidser then came in and somehow managed to make us worse by trying to play passing around the back football with a team who doesn`t have that capability on a pitch even a farmer wouldn`t use.
Lenny has come in and gone back to basics. And players like foggarty have really strived under him. IF and it`s a big IF Lenny stays I`m excited for the summer ahead. I don`t think we will be able to attract a bigger name than Lenny and we might attract bigger names with him the gaffer. Hopefully he has a clear out of the guys not good enough to get us fighting for top 4 and bring in better quality replacements to get us to that level.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 20 Apr 08:12
Impressed by what I`ve seen, he`s gone back to basics for the most part and made us a more difficult team to beat. He knows how much we have to improve in the summer in recruitment but he`s done nothing but praise the players in public to keep morale high (something Tidser never understood).
As others have said, we need a bit of a clear out now. Too many players who just can`t contribute enough at this level consistently to get us fighting at the top end of the table. Certainly going forward we need an awful lot better, especially to get some quality in the wide areas to cause teams problems.
Hopefully it`s a big summer ahead with some long needed positivity for what could happen next season
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 20 Apr 08:26
Quote:
thebear, Sun 20 Apr 00:05
I never rated Lenton as a player, but he has grown on me as a manager
Holding midfielders often get overlooked, unfairly in my opinion. He was an excellent player.
Gary Mason’s importance to our team was not fully appreciated by some.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Sun 20 Apr 08:36
It`s nice to hear someone smart, thoughtful and eloquent speak on behalf of the club. He makes us sound like a professional football club.
I`m not saying Tidser was thick but, if we`re all being honest, his interviews were difficult to listen to.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 20 Apr 08:39
Quote:
DNCH, Sun 20 Apr 08:36
It`s nice to hear someone smart, thoughtful and eloquent speak on behalf of the club. He makes us sound like a professional football club.
I`m not saying Tidser was thick but, if we`re all being honest, his interviews were difficult to listen to.
His fitbaw was difficult to watch too!!!
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 20 Apr 08:41
He has reinstated both Fogarty and Clay who have both done well yet couldn`t get a look-in under previous managers. He has scrapped the pishy passy game which would never work on a tattie field nor with the calibre of players that we have, and has instilled a bit more confidence in them. Clearly scoring goals is still a problem but we are harder to beat now.
The job for this season is nearly done and we can start looking forward to a clearout and rebuild for next year. Well done Neil.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:10
It is interesting, we have gone back to a back 3 which is something mcpake went with and we got similar results with….ie 0-0.
Hamilton getting those points deducted and airdrie blowing it yesterday meant it felt like a good point while under mcpake another toothless performance would have had the fans up in arms!
But you can only go with what you have and mullan aside it’s still pretty much mcpakes team, it certainly won’t be next season.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:16
Lennon came in to a very difficult situation, a squad with limited ability, very little pace and low confidence. Hes found a team out of that lot who can pick up points, a couple of vital wins and look more confident getting the ball forward to have a go. He warned us it wouldn’t be pretty and it hasn’t been. He’s nearly got the job done though whilst dealing with even more injury problems. Had Connor young not been injured against Ayr I think we’d have seen him score his first pars goal under Lenny.
Worth mentioning the forgotten men, Fogarty and Clay, who couldn’t get a game under Tidser but have came in under Lennon and bolstered us. I’d be happy enough if we brought both back next year.
I think if we had persisted with Tidser, Airdrie would be above us by now. Well done Mr Lennon, I can’t wait to see what you do with an enhanced budget in the summer.
Exciting times ahead.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:24
Hard to say with so few games played. The one difference I think is the attitude. He seems to have a good balance between praise and criticism. You can hear yesterday that he`s praised the clean sheet, flagged the issue with the pitch, but also highlighted a couple of chances Partick had that they shouldn`t.
Whether he`s here next year is down to himself and the club. If either side chooses not to renew then I hope we look beyond the usual faces.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:26
Get him signed long term on Monday.
He gets it. He calls out everything most fans have been saying for ages. The utter garbage GMBH served us is now going to be a distant bad memory.
Spend, spend and spend in the summer. Can`t wait.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:42
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 20 Apr 08:26
Quote:
thebear, Sun 20 Apr 00:05
I never rated Lenton as a player, but he has grown on me as a manager
Holding midfielders often get overlooked, unfairly in my opinion. He was an excellent player.
Gary Mason’s importance to our team was not fully appreciated by some.
Always thought Stuart McCall was a great player too.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 20 Apr 09:52
It’s not a case of IF he signs, more a case of when it’s announced.
Lennon will 100 percent be our manager for the next 2/3 years and I for one am excited to see what next season holds.
A busy summer, almost an entirely new squad, let the good times roll back at East End.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sun 20 Apr 10:25
I’m giving a special mention to Fogarty who I think is excellent. Very steady and reliable, keeps things simple. I hope we retain him at the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 20 Apr 10:26
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 20 Apr 09:52
It’s not a case of IF he signs, more a case of when it’s announced.
Lennon will 100 percent be our manager for the next 2/3 years and I for one am excited to see what next season holds.
A busy summer, almost an entirely new squad, let the good times roll back at East End.
My thoughts exactly!! Said the same to my son on the way to the game yesterday, nobody can predict the future but it’s the start of an exciting time to be supporting the club
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 20 Apr 10:51
Said the same to my son yesterday, told him what anytime it is to be a Pars fan. Especially the younger ones, hopefully plenty good times to look forward too, a Scottish cup final appearance, beating the old firm in a game so many things.
Before anyone starts I don’t mean anytime soon but with a rebuild and new owners who knows what’s achievable in the future.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 20 Apr 13:07
I would doubt that the deal offered to NL would have had such short-term vision. I would have thought more likely it involved a bonus to keep the club up and manage the club going forward if he does. I would think that as a manager, you want good honest professionals who have the right attitude and commitment to the game. Add technical skill, winning mentality, vision and teamwork to that and you are well on your way. He is clear and succinct in his post match interviews and his assessment is fair. I see a definite improvement as a team. Having a great individual players doesn`t make them a team, so personally I would hold back from commenting on individual players. A good manager builds a team from a group of players that fit together to become more than the sum of their parts. Whether they are playing or not, you would expect every player to contribute in some way so that they have some investment and involvement in the club. I like NL`s attitude, you can see he has risen to the challenge, and he has brought the players with him. He has experience of managing at the top level of Scottish football so deserves respect. We are fortunate that we have been able to benefit from that experience. It`s a roller coaster season for sure as NL says, and I am interested to see where we go next season. I have said before, my old boss used to say, his men followed him not because he was a great leader, but just to see what happened when we got there. I think with NL we have a leader, and the journey is going to be interesting.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 20 Apr 13:49
I don`t think Lennon will be announced as our long term manager until we are 100% safe, which we aren`t. Hamilton still have an appeal and Airdrie could technically still overtake us,even though that`s very unlikely.
Dinnae count yer chickens.....
As for him as a player,he was an excellent player that did what he was asked. He played the simple ball to the more creative players, helped the defence and provided leadership qualities. Not every great midfielder is a box to box job chipping in with 5-10 goals a season. I think he only scored 3 goals for celtic and 2 of them were against us 😆 (I think he scored the opener in the infamous 1-8 game).
If the Hamilton appeal fails and we take something from Airdrie then he`ll be announced shortly after that (I hope).
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 20 Apr 15:36
0-5 at Hampden Park
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sun 20 Apr 16:41)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 20 Apr 16:11
Quote:
JTH123, Sun 20 Apr 09:42
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 20 Apr 08:26
Quote:
thebear, Sun 20 Apr 00:05
I never rated Lenton as a player, but he has grown on me as a manager
Holding midfielders often get overlooked, unfairly in my opinion. He was an excellent player.
Gary Mason’s importance to our team was not fully appreciated by some.
Always thought Stuart McCall was a great player too.
Lennon was excellent in the role he played at Celtic.
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Topic Originator: halbe
Date: Sun 20 Apr 18:15
At one point Partick were really getting on top in the second half but bringing on the 3 subs at one time stopped that. The opposing managers all talk about and know him being in the opposing dugout is a big factor. Some coup for Dunfermline if they can get him signed up on a longer deal..
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Sun 20 Apr 18:34
While not flashy and under-appreciated Lennon for me was a great player - always working to make himself available to receive the ball and then to give it to the creative players. Also fiercely competitive with it.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 20 Apr 21:10
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 20 Apr 16:11
Lennon was excellent in the role he played at Celtic.
I don`t disagree VEE. I find it interesting that Lennon `earned` the reputation as a very dislikeable player and to some extent the same as a manager in the eyes of opposition fans. He was a real enforcer; kicking, biting, scratching and seemed willing to do anything to stop the opposition. Much more so than others of his time apart from maybe Hurlock at Rangers. I remember thinking that both of them seemed a bit neanderthal.
When you listen to him speak now, he comes across as confident, intelligent guy who demands respect but is clearly knowledgeable and seems to understand man management.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 20 Apr 22:59
I`m just as interested with the manager`s interviews as I am the highlights.
I think we have our man.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 21 Apr 01:39
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Sun 20 Apr 22:59
I`m just as interested with the manager`s interviews as I am the highlights.
I think we have our man.
Totally agree 👍
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Mon 21 Apr 06:10
I agree, we have our man, now bar possibly 2 or 3 players just a new full squad and we can look forward to next season.
As has been proven over the past 5 games not even Lennon could get this mob into the top 4.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 21 Apr 07:05
Personally I`d say defence is reasonable. Midfield could do a few Additions but definitely need a couple of strikers in
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 21 Apr 07:17
Defence is okay the now but Comrie is out of contract, Fogarty is still under contract at Birmingham and highly thought of, Bene isn’t getting any younger and has this court case hanging over him and Raymond’s loan is up.
Currently that leaves us with Mullen as centre half and Ngwenya at LWB, Bray could be used as RWB but I’d expect a raft of changes.
As it stands, I believe, we only have Otoo and Todd signed up for next season in midfield and that’s an area we have been weak in for years IMO. That need addressed massively.
As for up form that doesn’t need any explanation we simply need a better choice of strikers.
Post Edited (Mon 21 Apr 07:19)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 21 Apr 09:20
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 21 Apr 07:17
Defence is okay the now but Comrie is out of contract, Fogarty is still under contract at Birmingham and highly thought of, Bene isn’t getting any younger and has this court case hanging over him and Raymond’s loan is up.
Currently that leaves us with Mullen as centre half and Ngwenya at LWB, Bray could be used as RWB but I’d expect a raft of changes.
As it stands, I believe, we only have Otoo and Todd signed up for next season in midfield and that’s an area we have been weak in for years IMO. That need addressed massively.
As for up form that doesn’t need any explanation we simply need a better choice of strikers.
Hopefully Lennon will sign up Oluwayemi and Chikloa-Mullen, then some of those under contact might be able to fill squad places, might be able to offload some, like Benedictus and Fisher if their court case goes badly for them
Just need to fill in the blanks on this squad, with some real strength, experience and quality, in Lennon`s favoured 3-5-2.
GK. Oluwayemi
CB. Chikloa-Mullen
CB.
CB.
RWB. Bray
CM.
CM.
CM. Otoo
LWB.
CF. Kane
CF.
Bench
GK. Mehmet
CB. Fisher
CB. Benedictus
LB. Ngwenya
RW. Richie-Hosler
CM. Todd
CF. Young
CF. McCann
Not sure if these two are under contract
CB. Young
CM. Tod
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 21 Apr 10:20
Agree with Blethcley and da_no_1 about the interviews. Never used to bother listening to McPake or Tidser unless it was before or after a big game but I do enjoy hearing Lennon speak.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 21 Apr 10:23
When I listened to the interviews when Lennon was announced, I got the impression that he was in no doubt as to what the squad was like and what the plans were moving forward if we could stay up. Lennon could see there was a core of players he could work with and was confident that he could achieve the aim with them…..and to be fair, he has achieved it.
So, he’ll know exactly what is required and he’ll also know he’ll have the backing to do it. 1 or 2 players, he’ll probably have been surprised by….Clay maybe….but in general, his mind will already be made up and I’ll be stunned if he (or his people) has not already had initial talks or enquiries with players/agents for next season.
The ball will already be moving in recruitment areas and I’m convinced it’ll be a complete overall haul. With the exception of maybe Mullen and Kane, I would be stunned if any of the current squad start in the opening game of next season. Players under contract, might be squad fillers but unless there’s improvement, I can’t see any of them being first picks.
The phase 1 of Lennon’s tenure has gone well. He told us it wouldn’t be pretty, and it’s not been. The Hamilton deduction has obviously been a huge help, but I don’t believe for 1 minute that a guy like this and with the reputation he has, is going to stand by a lot of the current players.
It’s exciting times, just got to get the next 3-4 weeks out the way and get the popcorn out and get the cash for the season ticket renewals I suppose
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Mon 21 Apr 13:56
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 21 Apr 09:20
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 21 Apr 07:17
Defence is okay the now but Comrie is out of contract, Fogarty is still under contract at Birmingham and highly thought of, Bene isn’t getting any younger and has this court case hanging over him and Raymond’s loan is up.
Currently that leaves us with Mullen as centre half and Ngwenya at LWB, Bray could be used as RWB but I’d expect a raft of changes.
As it stands, I believe, we only have Otoo and Todd signed up for next season in midfield and that’s an area we have been weak in for years IMO. That need addressed massively.
As for up form that doesn’t need any explanation we simply need a better choice of strikers.
Hopefully Lennon will sign up Oluwayemi and Chikloa-Mullen, then some of those under contact might be able to fill squad places, might be able to offload some, like Benedictus and Fisher if their court case goes badly for them
Just need to fill in the blanks on this squad, with some real strength, experience and quality, in Lennon`s favoured 3-5-2.
GK. Oluwayemi
CB. Chikloa-Mullen
CB.
CB.
RWB. Bray
CM.
CM.
CM. Otoo
LWB.
CF. Kane
CF.
Bench
GK. Mehmet
CB. Fisher
CB. Benedictus
LB. Ngwenya
RW. Richie-Hosler
CM. Todd
CF. Young
CF. McCann
Not sure if these two are under contract
CB. Young
CM. Tod
What about Taylor Sutherland
Jake Sutherland who was scoring goals for Cowdenbeath ( I think Jake is out of contract in may )
nazpar
Post Edited (Mon 21 Apr 13:57)
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Mon 21 Apr 14:53
He has come in at a time when it looked likely that we were heading for 10th place and Airdrie were catching-up.
He has steered us to 7th at just the right time as we scrap for every point so late in the season.
Albeit that Hamilton were deducted 15pts for cheating is irrespective as we would have been sitting in 8th spot and hounding Hamilton in the last two games.
He has saved our bacon
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Mon 21 Apr 15:33
I would imagine that him signing a new contract will be announced when the season tickets go on sale.
Exciting time ahead and I would think we will sell a record amount of season tickets.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 21 Apr 15:59
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Par, Mon 21 Apr 15:33
Exciting time ahead and I would think we will sell a record amount of season tickets.
Think you’re right and why not? The club have never appointed a manager of his stature in my lifetime.
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