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 Some to leave
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 19:50

Exciting signings for sure.
I can’t imagine we will keep everyone happy.
Suspect there’s a couple leaving and we needed 2 or 3 in first.
Otoo maybe? Hamilton ?
What do you all think?
Given the length of contract and age maybe Bray out on loan?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:02

I agree

I see Hamilton being useful at slotting into midfield or defence

I agree on Bray, Kearney and KRH have been the ones getting more minutes on that side

I think Mehmet, Sam young, Sam Fisher, Keiran Ngwenya and Bray are the likely candidates..and some other youngsters..Hoggan etc.

Not sure on Cameron and Dobbie

Matt Todd maybe?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:07

Yes, I reckon a few will have already been told they are free to find new clubs.

Ngwenya -as Raymie mentioned on another thread, 3rd choice left wing back, can`t see there being too many takers for him.

Fisher - Davidson, Otoo, Sam Young, Hamilton can all cover as a centre back. Again, can`t see there being much demand, although I think there is a decent centre back there. Obviously the court case is crucial.

Sam Young - May hang around as back up, maybe go on loan?

Matty Todd - currently 3rd4th? choice as the attacking midfielder behind Cooper, Andy Tod, Bray & Macleod. Would be sad to see him leave. I`d imagine another team in the Championship like Airdrie, Queens, Morton etc would be happy to get him.

Hamilton - can`t see it, why re-sign him in the summer? Good back up, versatile and there will be situations where his aggression is needed.

Bray - a bit surprised he hasn`t featured more. Where would he go? Back on loan to ICT? I don`t think he`ll be going anywhere, but he will need more minutes than he is getting, and there is only going to be more and more competition for the attacking places.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:11

Don’t think Otoo will leave unless there is a decent offer, can cover a few positions.

Letting Bray go out on loan would weaken our bench.

Squad is looking strong, just need a striker.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:12

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evo!, Fri 15 Aug 20:02

I agree

I see Hamilton being useful at slotting into midfield or defence

I agree on Bray, Kearney and KRH have been the ones getting more minutes on that side

I think Mehmet, Sam young, Sam Fisher, Keiran Ngwenya and Bray are the likely candidates..and some other youngsters..Hoggan etc.

Not sure on Cameron and Dobbie

Matt Todd maybe?


Bray will be going nowhere. He’s not had a run in the team yet. Ngwenya will most certainly be on the way out though.
We now have more than enough cover there.
Mehmet seems happy enough to pick up a wage so will run down his contract.
Matty Todd I’m not sure about. Personally I’d keep him as what a great option to have even if not playing to bring on.
Will depend how happy he is though.
It’s a confidence thing with him I feel.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:20

Ngwenya, fisher and Mehmet would be free to leave I imagine.

Others may go out on loan to Kelty, east fife or similar.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:26

Can see Todd, Ngwenya, Mehmet and Fisher leaving.

Some of the youngsters will go out on loan as well I think.

Be interesting to see what happens now with Otoo.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:39

Ngwenya, fisher and Mehmet Would be who I would expect to leave at least on loan.

Some of last seasons 1st team starters are going to be lucky to make the bench.

Real competition all over the pitch apart from centre forward.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:43

I think Otoo, Hamilton and Mehmet all have parts to play in the Pars resurgence. It`s about the squad not just first team, and I`d be very surprised if Otoo is not a significant part of our first team plans. Unless another team offers an amount of money our management team will accept. I`d rather not even countenance selling Otoo - he`s a real presence in the team.

Matty Todd - is still working his way back from injury. We know he`s class. Give him time.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:27

Yeah Otoo and Hamilton are both versatile and can play in a number of positions.
These types are invaluable to a squad so hope they stay around.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:37

We might be losing a couple anyway! Benedictus and Fisher have their Serious Assault case coming up soon! Benedictus has previous so could well go down!

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:43

add a striker and the squad goes up to 27, Sam Young and probably both Bray and Todd could go without needing replaced but after that any other changes would be 1 in 1 out i reckon.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: WarringtonPar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:49

If the worst happens with Bene in his court case Otoo will be crucial to the squad
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:50

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


No they rarely do.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:55

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Dave_1885, Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.


Literally no one said you couldn`t discuss it.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:57

Most of the names mentioned could be starters. The difference this season is there`s more fighting for those positions but it also means we`re not potentially knackering the squad. More flexibility to give a player a week off to get back to 100% rather than chucking them on when they`re only 70%.

Where it`s obvious a player`s pretty unlikely to get minutes then a loan move could make sense.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 22:10

It`s a squad game.it will take a squad to compete near the top of the division. I suspect players will only go out on loan if it is good for the club and player. There will be periods in the season where all of the squad will be needed. Not sure I`d be writing anyone off just yet.i think NL and his team are better managers than that.

G Wardrope
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 22:33

I wouldn’t write anyone off, the squad is a lot stronger than last season. If you want to be in the first team you’ll have to earn your spot.

I think that’s what the management want they have raised the bar of expectation & the rest is down the players.

“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 23:59

They might send Bray out on loan but I don’t really see it happening.
If the squad is 27 then the obvious 3 for leaving are Fisher, N’gwenya and Mehmet. (I think Mehmet will sit on his contract unless he gets an offer of guaranteed football on the same money - I don’t see it happening tho) After that you could be looking at Matty Todd but I’d like to think that Matty improves with the team.

I don’t see Hammy leaving either. He’s the type of player you’ll need during a season, he’ll play anywhere you ask, all heart and will put his body on the line to help the team. Also picks up an unreal amount of free kicks.

Bene we just need to wait and see what happens with his court case but I’m sure both him and Fisher have properly done the guy in so 😬 not good for anyone!

Incoming I think we’ll see a striker and possibly another CB

COYP
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 00:35

Ref: Dave_1885 Fri 15 Aug 21:49


"If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together."

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Aw diddums.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 03:01

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Dave_1885, Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.


Nothing stopping you. Give it a bit thought though. Its fking with folks heads when they may be feeling concerned.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 07:11

Can’t see Ngwenya going anywhere tbh, he’s basically the only cover we’ve got at LWB so would be daft to punt him unless someone else is lined up. Mehmet’s as good as away though, he’s clearly 3rd choice now and you don’t keep a wage tied up in that. Fisher’s a different story – don’t think he’ll get many offers until the court stuff is sorted, clubs will steer clear until then.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 08:13

I thought Bray looked good when he came on last week. He reminds me a bit of Emile Smith Rowe with the way he carries the ball.

I think he will eventually get a starting spot. I would be keeping him here.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 08:34

Strange for some to suggest people shouldn`t discuss players possibly leaving. I can`t see anything particularly unkind that was said above, most people just stating that in most cases the players are 3rd or 4th choice in their natural position. In that situation, it is normal for guys to leave, they need and want to play.

This idea that people need to be extra careful about what they write as some players/players families read the forum is also something I don`t agree with. You should be careful and respectful with what you post regardless and I can`t understand why any player would choose to read this, or family members really.

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