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 Some to leave
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 19:50

Exciting signings for sure.
I can’t imagine we will keep everyone happy.
Suspect there’s a couple leaving and we needed 2 or 3 in first.
Otoo maybe? Hamilton ?
What do you all think?
Given the length of contract and age maybe Bray out on loan?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:02

I agree

I see Hamilton being useful at slotting into midfield or defence

I agree on Bray, Kearney and KRH have been the ones getting more minutes on that side

I think Mehmet, Sam young, Sam Fisher, Keiran Ngwenya and Bray are the likely candidates..and some other youngsters..Hoggan etc.

Not sure on Cameron and Dobbie

Matt Todd maybe?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:07

Yes, I reckon a few will have already been told they are free to find new clubs.

Ngwenya -as Raymie mentioned on another thread, 3rd choice left wing back, can`t see there being too many takers for him.

Fisher - Davidson, Otoo, Sam Young, Hamilton can all cover as a centre back. Again, can`t see there being much demand, although I think there is a decent centre back there. Obviously the court case is crucial.

Sam Young - May hang around as back up, maybe go on loan?

Matty Todd - currently 3rd4th? choice as the attacking midfielder behind Cooper, Andy Tod, Bray & Macleod. Would be sad to see him leave. I`d imagine another team in the Championship like Airdrie, Queens, Morton etc would be happy to get him.

Hamilton - can`t see it, why re-sign him in the summer? Good back up, versatile and there will be situations where his aggression is needed.

Bray - a bit surprised he hasn`t featured more. Where would he go? Back on loan to ICT? I don`t think he`ll be going anywhere, but he will need more minutes than he is getting, and there is only going to be more and more competition for the attacking places.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:11

Don’t think Otoo will leave unless there is a decent offer, can cover a few positions.

Letting Bray go out on loan would weaken our bench.

Squad is looking strong, just need a striker.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:12

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evo!, Fri 15 Aug 20:02

I agree

I see Hamilton being useful at slotting into midfield or defence

I agree on Bray, Kearney and KRH have been the ones getting more minutes on that side

I think Mehmet, Sam young, Sam Fisher, Keiran Ngwenya and Bray are the likely candidates..and some other youngsters..Hoggan etc.

Not sure on Cameron and Dobbie

Matt Todd maybe?


Bray will be going nowhere. He’s not had a run in the team yet. Ngwenya will most certainly be on the way out though.
We now have more than enough cover there.
Mehmet seems happy enough to pick up a wage so will run down his contract.
Matty Todd I’m not sure about. Personally I’d keep him as what a great option to have even if not playing to bring on.
Will depend how happy he is though.
It’s a confidence thing with him I feel.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:20

Ngwenya, fisher and Mehmet would be free to leave I imagine.

Others may go out on loan to Kelty, east fife or similar.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:26

Can see Todd, Ngwenya, Mehmet and Fisher leaving.

Some of the youngsters will go out on loan as well I think.

Be interesting to see what happens now with Otoo.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:39

Ngwenya, fisher and Mehmet Would be who I would expect to leave at least on loan.

Some of last seasons 1st team starters are going to be lucky to make the bench.

Real competition all over the pitch apart from centre forward.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 20:43

I think Otoo, Hamilton and Mehmet all have parts to play in the Pars resurgence. It`s about the squad not just first team, and I`d be very surprised if Otoo is not a significant part of our first team plans. Unless another team offers an amount of money our management team will accept. I`d rather not even countenance selling Otoo - he`s a real presence in the team.

Matty Todd - is still working his way back from injury. We know he`s class. Give him time.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:27

Yeah Otoo and Hamilton are both versatile and can play in a number of positions.
These types are invaluable to a squad so hope they stay around.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:37

We might be losing a couple anyway! Benedictus and Fisher have their Serious Assault case coming up soon! Benedictus has previous so could well go down!

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:43

add a striker and the squad goes up to 27, Sam Young and probably both Bray and Todd could go without needing replaced but after that any other changes would be 1 in 1 out i reckon.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: WarringtonPar  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:49

If the worst happens with Bene in his court case Otoo will be crucial to the squad
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:50

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


No they rarely do.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:55

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Dave_1885, Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.


Literally no one said you couldn`t discuss it.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 21:57

Most of the names mentioned could be starters. The difference this season is there`s more fighting for those positions but it also means we`re not potentially knackering the squad. More flexibility to give a player a week off to get back to 100% rather than chucking them on when they`re only 70%.

Where it`s obvious a player`s pretty unlikely to get minutes then a loan move could make sense.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 22:10

It`s a squad game.it will take a squad to compete near the top of the division. I suspect players will only go out on loan if it is good for the club and player. There will be periods in the season where all of the squad will be needed. Not sure I`d be writing anyone off just yet.i think NL and his team are better managers than that.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 22:33

I wouldn’t write anyone off, the squad is a lot stronger than last season. If you want to be in the first team you’ll have to earn your spot.

I think that’s what the management want they have raised the bar of expectation & the rest is down the players.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Fri 15 Aug 23:59

They might send Bray out on loan but I don’t really see it happening.
If the squad is 27 then the obvious 3 for leaving are Fisher, N’gwenya and Mehmet. (I think Mehmet will sit on his contract unless he gets an offer of guaranteed football on the same money - I don’t see it happening tho) After that you could be looking at Matty Todd but I’d like to think that Matty improves with the team.

I don’t see Hammy leaving either. He’s the type of player you’ll need during a season, he’ll play anywhere you ask, all heart and will put his body on the line to help the team. Also picks up an unreal amount of free kicks.

Bene we just need to wait and see what happens with his court case but I’m sure both him and Fisher have properly done the guy in so 😬 not good for anyone!

Incoming I think we’ll see a striker and possibly another CB

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 00:35

Ref: Dave_1885 Fri 15 Aug 21:49


"If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together."

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Aw diddums.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 03:01

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Dave_1885, Fri 15 Aug 21:49

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Dandy Warhol, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

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yorkiepar, Fri 15 Aug 21:46

The insensitivity of some people on this site beggars belief. These are real people that you’re discussing, not some inanimate commodity. Do any of you stop to think about this before you start posting?


This.


If people cant comment on if players should stay and go, then we may as well just cancel football all together.

Hope Bray doesnt get sent out - has shown promise from the bench.


Nothing stopping you. Give it a bit thought though. Its fking with folks heads when they may be feeling concerned.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 07:11

Can’t see Ngwenya going anywhere tbh, he’s basically the only cover we’ve got at LWB so would be daft to punt him unless someone else is lined up. Mehmet’s as good as away though, he’s clearly 3rd choice now and you don’t keep a wage tied up in that. Fisher’s a different story – don’t think he’ll get many offers until the court stuff is sorted, clubs will steer clear until then.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 08:13

I thought Bray looked good when he came on last week. He reminds me a bit of Emile Smith Rowe with the way he carries the ball.

I think he will eventually get a starting spot. I would be keeping him here.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 08:34

Strange for some to suggest people shouldn`t discuss players possibly leaving. I can`t see anything particularly unkind that was said above, most people just stating that in most cases the players are 3rd or 4th choice in their natural position. In that situation, it is normal for guys to leave, they need and want to play.

This idea that people need to be extra careful about what they write as some players/players families read the forum is also something I don`t agree with. You should be careful and respectful with what you post regardless and I can`t understand why any player would choose to read this, or family members really.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 08:56

I`d be surprised if Bray went on loan anywhere. I think he`s looked really good when he`s come in.

I`ve lost count of how many players we have signed now (nice problem to have) but we STILL need another striker. Sort that and I`ll be very optimistic for this season and even more so for next given the ages in the group.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 09:40

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Jeffery, Sat 16 Aug 08:56

I`d be surprised if Bray went on loan anywhere. I think he`s looked really good when he`s come in.

I`ve lost count of how many players we have signed now (nice problem to have) but we STILL need another striker. Sort that and I`ll be very optimistic for this season and even more so for next given the ages in the group.


I think we’re only a striker short of being proper competitive. Another reliable option up top and I’d be more than happy with the squad. Got a good balance now between young lads with potential and a core of experienced pros who know the level. We look tougher to beat this season, so if we can find that extra bit of firepower, no reason why we can’t be in or around the play off places by the end of the season.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 09:59

The Pars squad may well end up getting trimmed back at some point. What seems clear is that the foundations are being laid for promotion and being strong enough to stay up.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: halbe  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 10:16

Bray looks quality and along with Kearney likely only a matter of time before they start.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 10:45

All close season the talk on here has been that the squad is light and needs reinforcements. Now that we have recruited a few it seems a wee bit strange to immediately start discussing who should leave does it not? According to COWS the squad now comprises 27 players of whom one is out on loan. Assuming we recruit another striker that would mean 27 available for selection.

I suppose it all depends on what size of squad NL is comfortable with and whether he feels he can keep that number of players active and happy. We`ve been quite lucky with injuries so far compared with other clubs and other seasons but who knows what might be round the corner?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Garvockpar14  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 11:31

Definitely think some will be moved on before the end of the window - likely loans.

Ngwenya - clearly isn`t fancied by Lennon and with Fraser arriving and Otoo able to play LWB, he`s 3rd choice now. His contract won`t be renewed at the end of the season and so may make sense for him to get games elsewhere.

Fisher - again doesn`t seem to be getting a look in. Plenty other options at CB. Court case dependant I can see him going out on loan again and likely to leave on expiry of his contract.

Mehmet - has spent half of his time with us sitting on the bench and doesn`t seem to have been a problem for him. He`s a decent backup and probably on a good wage that he would not get elsewhere. Was in the squad for the Airdrie game. Suspect he will stay.

I`d have liked us to sign another experienced CB if we`re playing three there every week, especially given Bene`s injury issues and the court case. However, with the emergence of J. Tod, and Otoo and Hamilton able to cover maybe we are sorted for now. Can see Sam Young going out on loan.

Definitely need another striker. We seem to have an abundance of attacking midfielders / number 10s - A. Tod, Todd, McLeod, Bray, Jefferson?, Cooper as well as plenty defensive midfield options. Todd may appeal to fellow Championship teams but would be sad to see him go. With Bray`s long contract a loan move may make sense for him - more likely in January dependant on his game time between now and then.

Exciting and very interesting times for fans certainly.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 11:52

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wee eck, Sat 16 Aug 10:45

All close season the talk on here has been that the squad is light and needs reinforcements. Now that we have recruited a few it seems a wee bit strange to immediately start discussing who should leave does it not? According to COWS the squad now comprises 27 players of whom one is out on loan. Assuming we recruit another striker that would mean 27 available for selection.

I suppose it all depends on what size of squad NL is comfortable with and whether he feels he can keep that number of players active and happy. We`ve been quite lucky with injuries so far compared with other clubs and other seasons but who knows what might be round the corner?



I can’t remember which interview it was off the top of my head but He did say he prefers working with a smaller group. He went on to say he still needs to add a few bodies in to make it competitive. It was maybe a few weeks back.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 12:09

he said it last week after the game.

the video interview he also said he was working with 21 and ideally wanted 24, which is strange when the squad was at 24 players in total, maybe meaning outfield players?

in the Press before the game he also talked about "a little surgery" to the squad with adding and players going out on loan.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 12:13

Can’t see Todd staying with McLeod to come back and I fancy another attacking midfielder to come in (unless Jefferson will play there) ngwenya will defo be away if we can get a taker.

Mehmet will only go if we are prepared to pay a part of his wages.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 13:43

Despite his good form (at least in goalscoring terms), I can see Andrew Tod heading out on loan again. Don`t think he will play up front if we get another striker in, and think there are a few options ahead of him in the 10 role.

Davidson is an interesting one, did well in pre season but hasn`t figured since and wasn`t even on the bench at the weekend? He`s also agreed to do some coaching at the Joe Cardle Academy. Wonder if he is the Benedictus replacement if his court case goes against him or if his current spell of good form can`t be maintained?

I think Mehmet will stay as a) it`s good to have 3 keepers and b) there won`t be many takers for a loan with his presumed wages. With Margetts there that means 4 keepers for training too which a lot of managers like (so they can have 2 small sided games playing at the same time presumably).

Think Ngwenya could be off, that`s three managers who haven`t really rated him and despite showing up well a few times he`s never had a consistent run. Only way I can see him staying is if there are no takers or we sell Otoo down south. Matty Todd is the wildcard. You`d think every League One team would love to have him and an Airdrie or Queen`s Park or Arbroath would take him in a heartbeat too. I`d keep him as he`s a totally different type of midfielder to the rest of the squad and can play box to box or as a number 10 if needed.

My prediction is that Fisher, S Young, Ngwenya, A Tod and the genuine youngsters (Hoggan, Fyfe, etc) will be loaned out where possible.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: DunPar  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 13:49

I was still thinking we needed to add a bit of experience in amongst the team but couldn’t think of who. Reading the daily record this morning…… What would be so wrong with James McCarthy ? NL must know him…..but must be some reason he hasn’t had a club for a year………is he in similar nick to wanyama ? Or a bit injury prone ? He’s 34 and has bags of experience. I would have thought he might have been someone to add a bit of composure to our midfield ?

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 14:23

Ngwenya hasn`t done much wrong, but he`s too far down the pecking order now, to be honest I think he`s lacking something but can`t put my finger on it.

Seems mad that Matty Todd is also not really in the frame, but that`s the case. If we were to loan him out, it shouldn`t be to a club in our league -he would scoosh league 1, it`s a big year for him, I would be happy to keep him.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: p4r5f4n  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 14:31

For a sustainable run for promotion and considering the age of our players I would think the squad size is about right. More likely to see significant movement out in January.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 14:56

I`d be surprised if Andrew Tod was sent out on loan considering his versatility and recent form.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 15:18

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: WarringtonPar  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 16:55

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DunPar, Sat 16 Aug 13:49

I was still thinking we needed to add a bit of experience in amongst the team but couldn’t think of who. Reading the daily record this morning…… What would be so wrong with James McCarthy ? NL must know him…..but must be some reason he hasn’t had a club for a year………is he in similar nick to wanyama ? Or a bit injury prone ? He’s 34 and has bags of experience. I would have thought he might have been someone to add a bit of composure to our midfield ?


If James McCarthy has been a year out the game and is 34 I’d forget it. A move like that has Dorrans vibes.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 17:07

No bloody way is Andy Tod going out on loan and listen. Why is anyone suggesting we need players out on loan anyway?
Lennon wants 24 players in the squad.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 17:29

If possible keep everyone, great competition for places, and these days there are numerous subs. Would be a real shame to see the Tod brothers drift from the first team too.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 17:54

"No bloody way is Andy Tod going out on loan and listen."

He absolutely would have been at the start of the season but with the injuries etc, he`s grabbed his chance. He`s obviously chipped in with several goals but his overall play still isn`t what we need IMO and once Kane is fit and we get another striker in, he`ll be down the pecking order again. We also shouldn`t be expecting young players to maintain hot streaks all season. He needs to play rather than being 3rd/4th pick IMO and a loan to a top League One side would be ideal.

"Why is anyone suggesting we need players out on loan anyway? Lennon wants 24 players in the squad."

GK (3) - Munn, Mehmet, Terrell
DF (6) - J Tod, Benedictus, Chilokoa-Mullen, Fisher, S Young, Davidson
WB (5) - Otoo, Fraser, Ngwenya, Kearney, Ritchie-Hosler
CM (5) - Oakley-Boothe, Amade, Gilmour, Todd, Hamilton
AM (4) - Cooper, A Tod, Cáceres, Bray
ST (4) - Kane, C Young, A N Other, MacLeod

Assuming we bring in another "experienced" striker, that`s 27. And that doesn`t include Margetts, Cameron, Fyfe, Hoggan, etc who will be training with the first team but will presumably go out on loan as well.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 18:39

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kelty_par, Sat 16 Aug 17:54

"No bloody way is Andy Tod going out on loan and listen."

He absolutely would have been at the start of the season but with the injuries etc, he`s grabbed his chance. He`s obviously chipped in with several goals but his overall play still isn`t what we need IMO and once Kane is fit and we get another striker in, he`ll be down the pecking order again. We also shouldn`t be expecting young players to maintain hot streaks all season. He needs to play rather than being 3rd/4th pick IMO and a loan to a top League One side would be ideal.

"Why is anyone suggesting we need players out on loan anyway? Lennon wants 24 players in the squad."

GK (3) - Munn, Mehmet, Terrell
DF (6) - J Tod, Benedictus, Chilokoa-Mullen, Fisher, S Young, Davidson
WB (5) - Otoo, Fraser, Ngwenya, Kearney, Ritchie-Hosler
CM (5) - Oakley-Boothe, Amade, Gilmour, Todd, Hamilton
AM (4) - Cooper, A Tod, Cáceres, Bray
ST (4) - Kane, C Young, A N Other, MacLeod

Assuming we bring in another "experienced" striker, that`s 27. And that doesn`t include Margetts, Cameron, Fyfe, Hoggan, etc who will be training with the first team but will presumably go out on loan as well.


Of that list the ones “at risk” Id say would be Mehmet, Fisher, Ngwenya and Todd in my opinion. Thats 4, meaning a squad of 23. Bene; may of course, be pushed depending on court case.

The problem is we play with 2 up top in this formation, so we 100% need 4 up there, maybe 5 with Kanes issues.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:09

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Dave_1885, Sat 16 Aug 18:39

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kelty_par, Sat 16 Aug 17:54

"No bloody way is Andy Tod going out on loan and listen."

He absolutely would have been at the start of the season but with the injuries etc, he`s grabbed his chance. He`s obviously chipped in with several goals but his overall play still isn`t what we need IMO and once Kane is fit and we get another striker in, he`ll be down the pecking order again. We also shouldn`t be expecting young players to maintain hot streaks all season. He needs to play rather than being 3rd/4th pick IMO and a loan to a top League One side would be ideal.

"Why is anyone suggesting we need players out on loan anyway? Lennon wants 24 players in the squad."

GK (3) - Munn, Mehmet, Terrell
DF (6) - J Tod, Benedictus, Chilokoa-Mullen, Fisher, S Young, Davidson
WB (5) - Otoo, Fraser, Ngwenya, Kearney, Ritchie-Hosler
CM (5) - Oakley-Boothe, Amade, Gilmour, Todd, Hamilton
AM (4) - Cooper, A Tod, Cáceres, Bray
ST (4) - Kane, C Young, A N Other, MacLeod

Assuming we bring in another "experienced" striker, that`s 27. And that doesn`t include Margetts, Cameron, Fyfe, Hoggan, etc who will be training with the first team but will presumably go out on loan as well.


Of that list the ones “at risk” Id say would be Mehmet, Fisher, Ngwenya and Todd in my opinion. Thats 4, meaning a squad of 23. Bene; may of course, be pushed depending on court case.

The problem is we play with 2 up top in this formation, so we 100% need 4 up there, maybe 5 with Kanes issues.


How about we leave this to N.L. He knows exactly what size of squad he needs ,
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:17

``How about we leave this to N.L. He knows exactly what size of squad he needs ,

It has been left to Neil Lennon.

This is a football forum that people discuss their points on view though. That`s the whole point of having a forum.. No bearing on Pars decisions within the club. Two seperate things.

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Topic Originator: DAFCinBK  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:21

Since people are helpfully explaining that a forum is for people to express their views, here are mine: it seems like a bad idea for the fans to publicly discuss which players they would "off load" when we have barely started the season. It is likely to damage confidence. Personally I wouldn`t have started this thread.

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Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:22

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Bertie Paton, Sat 16 Aug 19:17

``How about we leave this to N.L. He knows exactly what size of squad he needs ,

It has been left to Neil Lennon.

This is a football forum that people discuss their points on view though. That`s the whole point of having a forum.. No bearing on Pars decisions within the club. Two seperate things.


Loose lips sinks ships ,as soon as we get a good owner ,management,and squad ,we have posts on people leaving ,accept the good things happening
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:37

Just think KRH was getting the bums rush 2 weeks ago!🤔🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:45

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DAFCinBK, Sat 16 Aug 19:21

Since people are helpfully explaining that a forum is for people to express their views, here are mine: it seems like a bad idea for the fans to publicly discuss which players they would "off load" when we have barely started the season. It is likely to damage confidence. Personally I wouldn`t have started this thread.


It doesnt matter how often you explain that. Some will just never get it.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 19:47

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Rigger Al, Sat 16 Aug 19:22

Quote:

Bertie Paton, Sat 16 Aug 19:17

``How about we leave this to N.L. He knows exactly what size of squad he needs ,

It has been left to Neil Lennon.

This is a football forum that people discuss their points on view though. That`s the whole point of having a forum.. No bearing on Pars decisions within the club. Two seperate things.


Loose lips sinks ships ,as soon as we get a good owner ,management,and squad ,we have posts on people leaving ,accept the good things happening


Jesus wept 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ this place is really going to the doldrums if fans cant talk about players potentially moving on without folk taking offence 😂😂 have you never discussed with a friend a player not being good enough? Well you cant of, because thats against the rules of being a football fan…….

Christ oh mighty this place is falling apart 😂

ETA a squad of 27 with another 2-3 additions is FAR too big for this league. 24 is about right, and even then if every stats fit for the majority of the season, NL will be dealing with players not playing enough, which will be tough.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:02

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PARrot, Sat 16 Aug 19:45

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DAFCinBK, Sat 16 Aug 19:21

Since people are helpfully explaining that a forum is for people to express their views, here are mine: it seems like a bad idea for the fans to publicly discuss which players they would "off load" when we have barely started the season. It is likely to damage confidence. Personally I wouldn`t have started this thread.


It doesnt matter how often you explain that. Some will just never get it.


You’re giving this site extra provenance it doesn’t merit any longer in my opinion.
Back in the earlier days this was the go to place for fans opinions.
Now we have numerous Facebook groups.
Fans on ‘X’ commentating
Instagram as well and lots more.
Part of being on a forum is speculating about everything related to Dunfermline and I really don’t have an issue with a thread like this because it will have absolutely no bearing on what will actually happen at the club.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:17

I don`t get the comparison between discussing players` performances with pals at the game or over a pint and posting opinions on a public forum. Two different things entirely, I suggest.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:18

I agree on the Andy Tod comment above, scored a goal vs airdrie yes but his overall play wasn’t great including losing the ball numerous times when better options were on (same with cooper), didn’t compete at all in the air either and ran out of steam for the whole 2nd half.

If another striker comes in and we have other options for the number 10 role including another head possibly coming in it would be good to loan him to league 1 to a club like east fife where he’s been before. He’s fair come on so another season of playing competitive men’s football feels better than warming our bench making limited cameo’s.

Split on Todd, it really is last chance saloon, we don’t owe him anything and he struggled badly last season (don’t give me the injuries excuse he played 24 games), stay and struggle to get much game time or go and earn yourself a move to another championship club or to stay here at the end of the season.

From what I saw against Airdrie it might take a wee bit of time for Kearney and bray to settle, it’s a massive jump in level to mid table in this league but I’d keep them here and try and bed them in.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:28

If a player doesn`t have the resilience to ignore the opinion of Billy from Blairhall on here then his future in the game is not going to be a particularly long one.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:44

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wee eck, Sat 16 Aug 20:17

I don`t get the comparison between discussing players` performances with pals at the game or over a pint and posting opinions on a public forum. Two different things entirely, I suggest.


How is it any different? The only difference is discussing it with 100 fans who may of may not hold the same opinion as you. Speak loudly enough in the pub and thats another 100 fans…….

Of your that hurt by a few comments on a forum then maybe its not the place for you?
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 20:50

Why should I be hurt by what folk are saying about players? The players might be though, or their friends or family. Who knows how folk cope with stuff like that?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 21:10

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wee eck, Sat 16 Aug 20:50

Why should I be hurt by what folk are saying about players? The players might be though, or their friends or family. Who knows how folk cope with stuff like that?


You seem to stick up for them at every instance, rather than engaging in any sort of debate regarding their place in the team……

Nobody has been personally offensive towards any players, they have stated that they will most likely be moved on as they aren’t of the required level anymore - you know, a normal footballing debate that fans of every club have every week…..

But some on here want to shut down debate wt every opportunity.
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 21:28

Squad now looking good, a few i would liose, but with a striiker, we coukd win this
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: Football_Par  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 21:43

M Todd was fine when he had a Psychical advantage over League 1 players.

1 league up and his lack of technical ability was exposed.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 22:37

Here we go again. If you challenge the majority view on here you`re trying to shut them up.

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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 22:50

I started the post so will take it on the chin from those that think talking about people leaving is wrong.
In return I will say. It’s a forum. As you were….

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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 Re: Some to leave
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 22:58

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DAFCinBK, Sat 16 Aug 19:21

Since people are helpfully explaining that a forum is for people to express their views, here are mine: it seems like a bad idea for the fans to publicly discuss which players they would "off load" when we have barely started the season. It is likely to damage confidence. Personally I wouldn`t have started this thread.


Yeah, I’m sure the entire team meet up on a Monday morning to discuss the threads on .Net

This is a football forum and part of football is players leaving clubs. Nothing wrong with us discussing it here. It’s actually the best place for us to discuss these matters online.

COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 16 Aug 22:59

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coventrypar, Sat 16 Aug 22:50

I started the post so will take it on the chin from those that think talking about people leaving is wrong.
In return I will say. It’s a forum. As you were….


I think it’s been a great thread.

COYP
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