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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 17:40
Not doing the live updates tonight sorry. Still carrying a touch of flu.
Same as usual - if you get the team before me please post it. This is especially for fans who don’t have access to the club social media channels / ParsTV / Sportsound.
My score prediction is 2-0. Fingers crossed.
Mon the Pars!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 21:41)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 18:50
Team tonight
Terrell
Chilokoa-Mullen
Benedictus
Otoo
Gilmour
Kearney
Cáceres
Macleod
A Tod
J Tod
Oakley-Boothe
Subs
Munn
Hamilton
Ritchie-Hosler
Todd
Amade
Abdulai
Kane
Bray
Fraser
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 18:51)
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 18:58
Gutted for Munn, not deserved.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:00
Slightly nervous about the lack of Amade in the middle of the park.
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:02
Don’t know why Fraser’s not starting
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:02
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 23 Sep 19:00
Slightly nervous about the lack of Amade in the middle of the park.
He kept giving the ball away on Friday night.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:04
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Tue 23 Sep 18:58
Gutted for Munn, not deserved.
I’m pleased with it, thought he could’ve done better for the first goal and the second was a big mistake.
His distributions been off as well and considering he’s a boy on loan and we have a highly thought of perm GK on the bench - don’t see the harm in changing it.
Strong message to send out that if you underperform regardless of your role on the pitch, replacements will come in.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:07
I would have changed the goalie too, fwiw.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:07
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Tue 23 Sept 19:02
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 23 Sep 19:00
Slightly nervous about the lack of Amade in the middle of the park.
He kept giving the ball away on Friday night.
That might be the case but he`s been one of our best players so far this season
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:08
Munn has made some good saves, but he`s also chucked in more than a couple goals that you`d expect him to deal with comfortably.
As also mentioned his distribution has been poor imo. Not seen any of Terrell, so let`s hope he can be a bit more stable
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:09
We now have a squad ( and a manager) where if you have a questionable game someone else gets an opportunity.
Fraser must be tactical.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:10
There’s no point having competition for places if you choose to stick with players that haven’t been at it.
Lennon seems to be enforcing this message - whether it pays off tonight I don’t know but definitely the right thing to do.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:11
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 23 Sep 19:07
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Tue 23 Sept 19:02
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 23 Sep 19:00
Slightly nervous about the lack of Amade in the middle of the park.
He kept giving the ball away on Friday night.
That might be the case but he`s been one of our best players so far this season
We got beat on Friday night so Lennon has to keep the squad happy, everyone should have a chance to stake a claim for a place. Some players might be carrying knocks also so we don`t know if Fraser, Amade etc aren`t fully fit to start.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:11
Said to a friend on Friday I thought Billy should get a shot now.
Good to see Lenny isn`t afraid to make changes if players go off form.
Amade is interesting - hopefully just a bit of fatigue after travelling & playing in the recent international games as he`s looked good, Friday aside.
Players have to play for their spots and that can only be a good thing.
COME ON YE PAAAARS 🏁👏🏼
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:30
End of the day Munn isn`t our GK, Terrell is, so if the management team think he`s good enough to come in, then they`re better qualified to judge that than me.
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 19:30)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:36
Weird hearing the tannoy announcer whilst I’m sitting in my living room. I should have a put a half time request in 😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:39
Fraser has basically played every minute so I`m guessing that is a genuine rotation, and Amade has played a lot of football and done a lot of travelling so that will likely explain that.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:39
Pleased to say the picture from Pars TV tonight is sharp and clear.
COYP!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:43
Topic Originator: kelty_par like
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:39
>>Fraser has basically played every minute< Apart from the first six games…
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 19:44)
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:43
Quote:
OzPar, Tue 23 Sept 19:39
Pleased to say the picture from Pars TV tonight is sharp and clear.
COYP!
For now...
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:46
Geez, even a jaded amade is better than boothe, out lack of depth is really showing there.
Not sure on the formation? 451 with tod up front?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:51
McLeod seemed to drop into right wing after the opening onslaught from St J on Fri so aye I reckon he might be there again with Toddy up top on his own, Cacares a bit to the left, Booth & Gilmour holding mids, Otoo left back
Fair enough about the keeper, hasn`t looked bad but not particularly great either so far, let`s see what the other boy is like
Bene, Gilmour, Cacares & Andy Tod are the must-start players for now I reckon, out of the fit players at least, and they`re all playing tonight, looks ok
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 19:58)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:53
Airdrie 0-1 St Johnstone
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 19:55
1-0 Ayr. We have been giving Ayr far too much of the ball.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:00
I must admit, i don`t get Boothe, must train well.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:03
No Cooper on the bench too.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:04
Airdrie 0-2 St Johnstone
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:08
Terrible goal to lose. Started from Oakley-Boothe being lazy (shock!) and pipping a pass back to Kearney who was in trouble when he could have just taken it himself or played it forward, then Kearnry ran it out for a throw. We never got set after that and it was far too easy for Ayr to get the shot off. Looked like Tyrell almost punched it into the post from inside rhe net, which stopped it pretty much dead on the line? Since then we`ve really struggled to impose ourselves on the game and are just shelling it long too often. Otoo not getting forward to the same effect as Fraser, Oakley-Boothe is back to his last season worst and nothing is sticking up top.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:14
Falkirk 0-1 Hibs
Just saying lol
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:18
Think keeper got a bit unlucky. Looks like punched onto post then came back onto him and just stopped dead. But again quickest to react was the other team.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:21
Tiresome, uninspiring stuff from the Pars so far.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:24
Caceres putting a shift in, same can’t be said for the other two forwards.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:26
Brutal
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:28
Falkirk 2-2 Hibs
Dundee United 2-0 Aberdeen
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 21:06)
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:28
Otoo is a good player but he’s not a left back never mind a wing back, if amade needed a rest with the travel otoo should have been in that centre mid
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:29
Have to agree at present we are absolutely brutal , very lethargic we need to up the tempo
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:30
Amade for TOB asap please
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:30
Kane, Amade and Fraser on at HT to shake things up. Plenty possession but nothing to unlock the ayr defensive shape. Too many poor slack touches as well
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 20:31)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:31
This ain`t working.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:35
Otto and booth off….Fraser and Amade on asap. Kane on for Mcleod
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:38
This is like the McPake days near the end. Subbuteo pihs sideyways and back again and nothing in the final third.
Think i`ve counted once, maybe twice at a push where Otoo has went forward and been brave on the ball. Every other time it`s check back inside and play a safe pass.
Anytime we do this Ayr are ultra sharp in getting their shape back, men behind the ball and it kills any forward momentum we have.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 20:39)
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:39
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Tue 23 Sep 20:35
Otto and booth off….Fraser and Amade on asap. Kane on for Mcleod
Lennon to blame for this. So far 1 point from 12 against Ayr, St J, Ross County and Rovers.
More like it.
No way should OB or Otoo be starting. Playing with no striker also not good enough.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:40
Get Todd or Bray on for a bit lf creativity, get Fraser on to actually have a wing back out on the left, get Kane warmed up to bring on with half an hour to go. Need to do something. Back to the old Pars of passing so slowly (and behind their intended target), second touch being a tackle, defenders looking luke they are towing a caravan, etc.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:40
Too nice, too weak, too naive …..
TOB……Joe Chalmers was better. I’d rather see Matty Todd in there at least he has an engine.
Fraser and Kane on too please. That was another dreadful first 45..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:40
Clueless back passing against a team who are doing a high press maintaining a high defensive line and closing us down relentlessly
Pass marks to no one at the moment
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:41
Changes haven`t worked. Need Fraser, Amade and Kane for Otoo, TOB and Macleod.
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:42
Awful goal to concede. Otoo looks like he’s trying to dribble with a rugby ball. Rocket up the backside needed. Won’t be challenging anywhere near the top of the table if we continue to gift teams goals.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:42
Ayr arent playing with a recognised forward according to my nephew who follows Ayr week in.
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Topic Originator: DAFCinBK
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:42
Definitely need to change things at half time. Oakley-Booth has done nothing at all. Seems to often get himself in the position that is impossible to pass to, and when he does get the ball he rarely progresses play. He should be off and either Otoo moved in there or Amade on if he has energy. either way fraser should be on if he can do 45 mins.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:44
Great picture from ParsTV
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:44
Subs are out kicking about. No believing he`s going to stick with this 11. Surely not.
Fraser been called upon now.
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 20:46)
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:45
Got to agree Amade, Fraser and Kane for TOB, Otoo and probably McLeod far too slow and untidy all round that half and no noise up front.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:47
"Oakley-Booth has done nothing at all. Seems to often get himself in the position that is impossible to pass to"
I noticed this too DAFCinBK, seems to hide from the ball
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 20:51)
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:50
There`s still a massive drop off in the team when a couple of our starters are out. Oakley-Boothe just adds absolutely nothing for me, get someone with energy in there to break the lines and move forward. Otoo isn`t a wingback, not sure why Lennon continues to persist with it.
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Topic Originator: donj
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:51
At least Fraser on now
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:52
Boothe reeks of wanyama last season, Lenny defo has his favs….
Tod great at getting on the end of things in the box but he’s not going to hold the ball up, compete physically and bring others into the game, need to get Kane on to help move us up the park against a team sitting in.
Everytime we bring in any players into the first 11 who were here last season they look way off it. Fraser played loads of games last season at livi, surely we’re not resting him? Amade poor against st Johnstone but even his worst game is better than boothes best.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:52
We’re down to ten men!
Chilokoa-Mullen second yellow
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 20:52)
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:52
Would rather Boothe got subbed and Otoo play in CM for a change but hey ho
If Kane is only fit enough for a 88th min sub again I`ll go mental
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:54
Referees just regularly utterly ruining matches at this level
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:54
Mullen sent off... surely we`re fecked?
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:54
Oh FFS, just after we sub Otoo off who could`ve played centre back...
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:56
No one but ourselves to blame. Howling from Mullen who should’ve been shown a straight red for his tackle in the first half.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:56
Refs in this country are a f**king joke
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:57
Quote:
The Artful Dodger, Tue 23 Sept 20:56
No one but ourselves to blame. Howling from Mullen who should’ve been shown a straight red for his tackle in the first half.
Nonsense
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:59
Oakley Boothe is dug meat
Lennon got the team selection all wrong
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 23 Sep 20:59
Feels like we best get used to big highs and lows this season!
Between a team of youngsters, dodgy team selections and the drop off in quality of the subs coming in it’s going to be a rollercoaster!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:01
A ridiculous challenge to make when your on a yellow for almost exactly the same thing. He’s so clumsy the way he dives in, hope Lennon goes through him.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:03
Mullen has been dugmeat this season largely.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:04
Don`t know how they do in training, but Lennon doesn`t half make some mistakes with selections, head scratching stuff
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:10
On topic, plenty of time left etc Get Bray on to give him some minutes.
Off topic but don`t want to start a new thread. I just looked at the Challenge Cup scores, is that a new format or was it like that last year too? I don`t like the idea of a b side potentially winning it.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:11
This is just maddening to watch.
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:12
Ayr are so poor and have not came out of first gear. Totally bamboozled that we’re 1-0 down and down to 10 men against this.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:13
Awful referee performance tonight
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:15
Camera work tonight is awful
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:16
The noo it`s like watching the pars from the last couple of season`s
And I cannot see at present where we are going to get a goal from as we are mince tonight
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:17
Not sure who’s worse between Ayr and the referee. If we can equalise we can win this. We are dominating possession creating more attacks
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:18
Just heard our fans roar at Tod’s shot off the bar!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:20
Airdrie 1-2 St Johnstone
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:20
Cáceres close!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:22
Pars are due.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:27
We’re screaming out for someone to play right through the middle here. Absolutely no point in Kane being on the books now if he’s not able to play, complete waste of a wage.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:32
Agree with The Artful Dodger in a way - if we had VAR tonight Chilokoa-Mullen might have seen red for the first one. Annoying thing with the second is that it looked like the ref was happy to just give the free kick before the Ayr players went nuts at him and the linesman. Proper gamesmansh from Ayr but no surprise when they`ve been time wasting and niggling away the whole game. Andrew Tod so unlucky again hitting the woodwork and their keeper has made a couple of decent stops but overall it`s just not good enough. From looking like play off contenders, we now look like mid table make weights again.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:38
Pretty accurate post Kelty par
Our problem once again is we have nobody who can take any chances when they come along , I now wonder how we managed to get 5 against arbroath !
And we have just given Ayr their first win of the season , says it all
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 21:42)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:39
Ayr down to ten men!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:40
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 21:41)
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:42
Dire ref performance. Card happy and totally random decisions.
Weird Pars lineup, did well as 10 men and generally looked far better than Ayr. Lacking a cutting edge up front...missed Rudden.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:44
Baffling starting 11 tonight and subs. Lennon lost us that game.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:45
Red cards in the championship tonight
Us
Ayr
Airdrie
St Johnstone
Jeesh
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:46
Second half performance was much better but our naivety has cost us 3 points tonight.Why Lennon started Otoo at LWB I’ll never know. Have to pick up a positive result against Thistle now on Saturdy if we want to be challenging for the play offs.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
Quote:
wulliepar57, Tue 23 Sep 21:38
Pretty accurate post Kelty par
Our problem once again is we have nobody who can take any chances when they come along , I now wonder how we managed to get 5 against arbroath !
And we have just given Ayr their first win of the season , says it all
My brother showed me the chances from A Tod, Cáceres and Kane?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
7 yellows and 2 reds in injury time at airdrie
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
A shocking, disgraceful result. Absolutely disgusted with this. When I get up at 4 in the morning to watch a match, I expect to see us at least put in an effort. That effort was too little and too late. I am so disappointed with the Pars right now. Yet another ref has a shocker. Pass marks for Kearney and Caceres and young Fraser when he came on. The rest? A very bad day at the office..
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
I think NL is overthinking squad rotation, because he have three games in just over a week.
They`re mostly young lads. Just play the best starting eleven if they`re anything like fit.
We all know that TOB and Otoo are not in the best starting eleven.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
Rudden injured, no Cooper, no C. Young and Kane on the bench. No wonder we didn`t score. It can`t just be left to Andrew Tod!
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
Agree Kelty, as rudden has shown, we’re only an injury or 2 away from looking ropey and Lennon makes this worse by putting in players we all know are not good enough.
8 points from 7 games isn’t great, at least outside of st Johnstone no one else is putting a decent run together.
Really need to win the Partick game now to keep us in the top half.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:47
Can`t be losing your games. Need to beat thistle or it shaping up to be a poor opening quarter
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:52
Strange starting XI which has cost us unfortunately. On the plus side don’t think Terrell did much wrong of note and a few decent stops
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:54
Starting Otoo over Fraser didn`t work. TOB was poor and anonymous first half, second half in fairness I thought he put in more a shift. The situation with Kane is worrying, we needed someone with more presence up there. JCM needs to stop diving in, this is costing us goals and points.
Keeper might/should have kept out the goal as well, just the way things are going. Ayr offered nothing at all until space opened up against our 10 second half. Frustrating, probably deserved a point.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:56
I keep hearing we are a young team and it takes time to Gel etc but in this league you don`t get time to Gel ! and why are we always slow starters ?
in the short space of time over the 7 games we have had a couple of decent performances but that`s about it , nothing to get too excited about after a great performance against SJ i was looking for better tonight ,
I really thought tonight we could go out there and get the 3 points and what a bizarre goal to lose certainly no luck there
thats 7 games in and won 2 drawn 2 and beaten in 3 ,
we really need to start winning if we have any ambitions if we are looking to finish in the top 4
I also cannot fathom out some of the team selections either
All that said and had my moan it`s onwards to saturday against Plastic whistle
where i will be looking for a pick me up
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:57
How Boothe gets a start is beyond me, Mullen needs dropped too, rash, clumsy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:57
All 4 Championship teams ended up with ten men.
In England, Ekitike was on a yellow, then scored a late winner and what does he do? The plonker takes his top off for an automatic yellow card. What a moron 🙄 .
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: calum96
Date: Tue 23 Sep 21:58
Amade has to start. We have so many players with quality but Lennon not getting the best out of them. Tash was ok second half but overall not good enough, John Tod played well but slower than a week in jail when the ball goes over the top of him. Otoo at left back - not a clue, Fraser is miles ahead of him.
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:04
Thought Terrell was at fault for the goal but after watching it back there’s not much he can do about it. Looks like the ball crashes off the post then hits off him leaving a tap in for the Ayr boy, unless it was already over the line. Regardless, it comes down to Kearney needlessly dribbling the ball out the park and us giving Ayr too much time around the box. The first half was no where near good enough but I think we battered them for the majority of the second half with 10 men and at the very least we should’ve came away with a point. It’s so frustrating because the 3 points were there for the taking and we’ve gifted them to Ayr. I can’t remember the last time we’ve had a bit of luck. Totally scunnered.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:04
Lorna
your quote referring it against mine !
My brother showed me the chances from A Tod, Cáceres and Kane?
I think I am correct if you read my post, I couldn`t see where we would get a goal from ?
no use having chances if you cannot put it in the net !
or having more of the play games are won by scoring more than the opposition and from what i saw tonight Ayr were there for the taking
Here`s hoping on saturday we can score first so we are not chasing the game
Post Edited (Tue 23 Sep 22:06)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:07
Deserved something at the end of the day. But why did we have yet another poor first half ? It’s becoming a habit…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:08
We lack experienced players, laid bare tonight. Maybe we make a last minute loan move before the window closes. We need another striker if Rudden is going to be out for a while.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:10
Got what we deserved , Ayr tactically miles ahead of us , we win nothing in the air in their penalty box. Lacked creativity in midfield , baffling starting TOB , baffling taking Gilmour off , baffling not putting on Kane till last 10 mins. I am inclined to say that in the battle of the managers Brown handed Lennon his ****
Very very disappointed.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:11
Don’t know why we keep running the otoo lwb experiment, it doesn’t work. I’m
Also in shock Oakley boothe started and got the full 90.
I’m gonna defend Mullin a bit, not because of the two fast tackles but he seems to be the only one at times who brings the ball forward by beating his man and can also chip in with the odd goal.
We keep losing games by daft mistakes but I got to say I think Lennon got it wrong today and really handed that game to ayr. Well done to the lads when we went down to 10 thought we tried to get that goal but just no natural forwards in the side until Kane
Effe
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Topic Originator: Foxypar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:16
Wasn’t at the game so correct me if I am wrong. However, seen the line up and thought we aren’t going to get a win.
Don’t understand why Kane was on the bench again, and to keep him there until the last 10 or so mins.
Oakley boothe? Why is he starting?
Subs were wrong from what I could see from the notifications I was getting.
Did Mullen deserve 2 yellows?
FP
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:23
Quote:
OzPar, Tue 23 Sep 21:47
A shocking, disgraceful result. Absolutely disgusted with this. When I get up at 4 in the morning to watch a match, I expect to see us at least put in an effort. That effort was too little and too late. I am so disappointed with the Pars right now. Yet another ref has a shocker. Pass marks for Kearney and Caceres and young Fraser when he came on. The rest? A very bad day at the office..
You cant claim they lacked effort. They gave their all. Ayr were very hard to break down the minute they scored and used every trick going. It doesn’t help that the ref was on their books either…..
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:24
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
He didn’t get the second yellow for mouthing off, he got it because the Ayr players hounded the ref into it.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:25
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Sep 22:24
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
He didn’t get the second yellow for mouthing off, he got it because the Ayr players hounded the ref into it.
That’s not what I saw. Mullen remonstrated with the referee protesting his innocence and only then got the second yellow.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:25
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
Is that what he got it for? I thought it was because of the tackle on the number 5 for the second yellow.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:26
Strange team selection, Yet a other slow start and from where I sit in the Norrie the goalie looked at fault for the goal.
We got into the game towards the end of the first half and second half we done enough to get at least a point.
I cannae believe one of the players being singled out for criticism tonight is Booth I thought in the second half he was one of our better players.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:27
Fraser was carrying a knock, which was why he was on the bench.
We did better with ten men but our final ball into the box was often poor.
The game was crying out for Kane to come on against Holt, but it was too little, too late.
Two games now where we should have taken a couple of points but walk away empty handed.
Saturday’s game has taken on much more importance.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:28
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:25
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Sep 22:24
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
He didn’t get the second yellow for mouthing off, he got it because the Ayr players hounded the ref into it.
That’s not what I saw. Mullen remonstrated with the referee protesting his innocence and only then got the second yellow.
Mullen was walking away when the ref rounded from behind a group of Ayr players and called him over. The Ayr players will have been in his ear constantly about him being booked previously.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:30
Quote:
Foxypar, Tue 23 Sep 22:16
Wasn’t at the game so correct me if I am wrong. However, seen the line up and thought we aren’t going to get a win.
Don’t understand why Kane was on the bench again, and to keep him there until the last 10 or so mins.
Oakley boothe? Why is he starting?
Subs were wrong from what I could see from the notifications I was getting.
Did Mullen deserve 2 yellows?
Oakley Boothe was actually okay. Poor 1st half better 2nd.
The mistake in the subs was bringing Matty Todd on and Caceras off. Caceras to me is our only attacking player who can get between line, take the ball under pressure and he brings others into the game. Matty Todd’s first touch gave the ball away then when we’re pushing for an equaliser he mis kicked a free kick from wide. Dribbled to the first man to clear it.
No mullen didn’t deserve two yellows.
We didn’t deserve anything from the game however A Tod cracked the corner of the bar and post from 25 yards then Caceras hit a curling shot the keeper made a good save from.
I think he should have put Kane on earlier. We really miss a striker.
It’s been a frustrating night because I do t think anyone was particularly poor but nobody played that well either.
I’ll need to see the goal again but it seems like keeper was beat at near post. He did save 2 x 1on1’s and make a couple of other good saves tho 🤷🏻♂️
Bit of a frustrating one.
Ref was an absolute banger. I think even Ayr fans would be saying that.
COYP
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:33
It`s something we as a team need to be much better at. Take for instance the Stevenson situation in the derby, the players didn`t make much of a deal out of the elbow so the referee didn`t feel much pressure to make a decision. We`ve been really poor at playing the refs for years now, which is unfortunately just a part of the game.
Personally I`d prefer rugby type of refereeing where only the captain can speak to the official, which they seemingly tried to implement a couple years ago but that seems to have gone out the window.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:35
Caceres was correctly taken off as he had ran himself into the ground. He was absolutely burst and you could tell he was hoping it was his number when the subs were waiting to come on. Not an easy shift playing up beside Tod, you have to do the running of two men.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:44
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Tue 23 Sept 22:35
Caceres was correctly taken off as he had ran himself into the ground. He was absolutely burst and you could tell he was hoping it was his number when the subs were waiting to come on. Not an easy shift playing up beside Tod, you have to do the running of two men.
Tod put in a shift all over the park, to say someone else does his work for him is just plain wrong.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:47
Quote:
parsmad68, Tue 23 Sep 22:25
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 23 Sep 22:19
Very disappointing result but it was a valiant second half performance at least with 10 men.
Mullen was really stupid mouthing off to get the second yellow.
Is that what he got it for? I thought it was because of the tackle on the number 5 for the second yellow.
Correct, for challenge on Holt.
We played better with 10 men than with 11.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:47
We need to start better,. And keep the ball better. We gave the ball away too often. And their goal was coming.
The referee gave us very little. Two 50/50 balls and Mullin got booked for both. Appalling decision
Then we were pretty much all over them and so unlucky with Andy`s shot.
We ended up with 11 players, none of whom were likely to win anything in the air and taking off Jeffers curtailed our ability to hold on to the ball.
I wont criticise the effort but we need to start winning games.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:48
Difficult with a young squad when you’re playing two games in relatively short period of time, both of which different mindsets tactically when you knew it was going to be backs against the wall for St Johnstone but then push for it with Ayr.
They’ll keep learning from these experiences but this is a missed opportunity to assert ourselves near the top of the table and Lennon will be fuming.
Kane just isn’t fit, or he is but the problem with his legs means he is of little value these days. We know he can’t really play any longer than 20 on Astro and could now argue it’s the same on grass.
He’s our new Wighton.
Losing Rudden is a really big blow for us which is ironic considering many on here thought he was a poor acquisition.
Tod and McLeod are really promising young players up top but you just can’t rely on them week in week out to score goals for us. We need experience.
Otoo at LWB has never worked really in my opinion.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:49
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Tue 23 Sep 22:35
Caceres was correctly taken off as he had ran himself into the ground. He was absolutely burst and you could tell he was hoping it was his number when the subs were waiting to come on. Not an easy shift playing up beside Tod, you have to do the running of two men.
Yeah, all fair comments.
Tod is also bloody terrible in the air.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:52
Quote:
DBA, Tue 23 Sep 22:44
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Tue 23 Sept 22:35
Caceres was correctly taken off as he had ran himself into the ground. He was absolutely burst and you could tell he was hoping it was his number when the subs were waiting to come on. Not an easy shift playing up beside Tod, you have to do the running of two men.
Tod put in a shift all over the park, to say someone else does his work for him is just plain wrong.
You can count on one hand the amount of times he actually runs during a game. 90% of the time it’s a half walk/half jog/half arsed attempt to close someone down. Rewatch any highlights from any game this season and it’s the same.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:55
I was a bit dubious about the referee stopping play in the first half when our keeper came out of the penalty area and went down when the ball ricocheted off him in a challenge to an Ayr player in a decent attacking position - there was no foul and they were not at all pleased.
Any qualified referees here who can clarify ?
I reckon the home fans would have been mega hacked off if the roles were reversed.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:02
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:09
Great effort in the SH but no cigar.
Oakley-Boothe…….I don’t see what he adds to any team.
Every ball he plays is a first time pass usually 5 yards. I’d like to see Keith Bray given a chance.
‘Hello my name is Jefferson - I’m happy to be here let’s go!’
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:22
Instant impacts made from Fraser and Amade when they came on. Much better second half. So frustrating to come away with nothing. Andrew Tod knows where the goals are but some of his touches and passing tonight was way off. Caceres tried but looked fatigued I thought. Bene was decent. Lennons post match mentioning Kane. Surely he`s fit enough to manage more than 10 minutes? Horrendous luck with Rudden`s injury he was looking the part as I predicted he would.
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:25
Jefferson is everywhere looking for the ball. Gives absolutely everything. Notice at throw ins, 90% are received by him as he’s on the move looking for it. The amount of runs he makes off the ball but is never picked out is frustrating. As said above I’d like to see Bray given a chance.
Frustrating game overall. Lucky goal for Ayr IMO. They didn’t offer much else and you’d have thought they were down to 10 men majority of second half not us. Unless there was a reason then Otoo starting at LB was very poor decision considering how well Fraser played on Friday.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:33
Lennon holding his hands up was the correct thing to do but you don`t often see it happen with managers so that is good to see.
A Scottish referee ruins another game of football, too stop-start, inconsistent with fouls, incredibly card happy. I can accept refs getting big decisions wrong but the way they run the game up here ruins the match most weeks. I watched Altrincham play down in England a few weeks ago and let the game flow, the ref blew his whistle only five times in the first half, made for a far better spectacle.
Garbage first half, good signs the second. Need to put some points on the board again soon.
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Topic Originator: D.A. Eff Ceee
Date: Wed 24 Sep 00:07
I didn`t read through the whole thread I couldn`t be bothered. 😂. My personal view on the game tonight was that we were sloppy in parts. The goal was an unfortunate goal to lose but I think it was personally down to the change in keeper as I feel Munn hasn`t done a huge amount wrong. Ok slight mistakes on Friday but he is young. The ref was shocking but that`s football we have to deal with it. Otoo looked very poor tonight as did Oakley-Boothe. Aye we were nothing great and even though we were sloppy we were better than Ayr for most of the game even with 10 men. I see a good improvement in this side and it is much better to watch than recent times.
Post Edited (Wed 24 Sep 00:13)
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Wed 24 Sep 04:02
I think I`d rather start with Kane at the moment and give him as long as he can manage. We generally play better when he`s on the park and he can set an aggressive tone right from kick off, especially at home where we`re in danger of being too passive without him.
Bringing him on with only a few minutes left is asking a lot
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 24 Sep 04:07
Quote:
BlackLight, Wed 24 Sep 04:02
I think I`d rather start with Kane at the moment and give him as long as he can manage. We generally play better when he`s on the park and he can set an aggressive tone right from kick off, especially at home where we`re in danger of being too passive without him.
Bringing him on with only a few minutes left is asking a lot
I would agree,also Hamilton doesnt seem to be getting a look in right now not even considered coming of the bench
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Wed 24 Sep 06:07
Thing that has stood out to me thus far is that the line up changes every single game. I trust Lennon and he`ll make us a good side (we`ve seen signs already) but we have signed so many players, so late in the window that it`s evident he`s still figuring out who the best players are.
What stood out to me was dropping Munn in goal. He`s had a couple of high profile mishaps but that may just crush his confidence and with Mehmet already a nervous wreck, that heaps pressure on Terrell. I hope Lennon knows what he`s doing with that one.
Anyway, no serious harm done in the table so let`s move on.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Wed 24 Sep 06:57
We are a different team with Amade and Gilmour in the middle of the park, yet to see what TOB brings to the team.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:18
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Tue 23 Sept 22:52
Quote:
DBA, Tue 23 Sep 22:44
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Bamba-Daft, Tue 23 Sept 22:35
Caceres was correctly taken off as he had ran himself into the ground. He was absolutely burst and you could tell he was hoping it was his number when the subs were waiting to come on. Not an easy shift playing up beside Tod, you have to do the running of two men.
Tod put in a shift all over the park, to say someone else does his work for him is just plain wrong.
You can count on one hand the amount of times he actually runs during a game. 90% of the time it’s a half walk/half jog/half arsed attempt to close someone down. Rewatch any highlights from any game this season and it’s the same.
Tbf mate i actually think thats how he runs rather than half walk jog etc, ive played with a few like that, it looks lazy but its just how they run
COYP
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:33
I agree with the manager`s post match comments.
Watching on PARStv, there seemed to be decent enough claim for a penalty when a Pars player got pushed to the ground. Anyone get a good view of the incident?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:35
Quote:
MinnesotaAndy, Wed 24 Sep 07:33
I agree with the manager`s post match comments.
Watching on PARStv, there seemed to be decent enough claim for a penalty when a Pars player got pushed to the ground. Anyone get a good view of the incident?
Yup - stonewaller. Ayr player never looks at ball just jumped right through back of Caceres? How these arent given more often is baffling
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:48
I thought Lennon got the team all wrong last night IMO but after hearing the post match interview it shows how limited our options still are. Ayr pressed us well in the first half and put us under pressure, but instead of trying to play through it, we resorted back to Tidser ball. which just isn’t good enough. Far too timid all over the park.
JCM touch is a liability. His second touch is always a tackle, and his first touch is so poor it got him booked early doors.
TOB honestly, a waste of a jersey. He offers absolutely nothing. The lack of effort from him just left Gilmour stranded, and I’d say that was Gilmour’s worst game in a Pars shirt but he was doing the job of 2 until Amade came on.
We only started playing once we went down to 10 men. Still no real quality apart from the Tod effort that came off the post. Fraser was a big improvement when he came on and finally gave us a threat down the left. Before that, everything just ended up back at the back 3.
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
For me it`s time to cut our losses with kane. Lennon clearly doesn’t trust him to play longer than those 10 minute cameos and if this is what him "managing my calf problems" looks like we are in trouble. With Rudden missing we’ve got no focal point up top, but I’d rather see a youngster given 10 minutes than persist with Kane. Pay him out his contract and move on with someone new in January. I doubt he’ll accept it though.
Saturday becomes huge now. Need a massive change in mentality because what we showed last night wasn’t near the level required.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:50
Good to see people are seeing what I have re tod, great at getting on the end of balls in the box and has an eye for goal but there’s not a lot else to his game that’s championship standard, he seems to have very little stamina so just kind of stoats about, rarely challenges for the ball on the deck and not interested in competing in the air.
He can’t be our main striker as or the ball will just continually come back. It’s his first season at anywhere near this level so he’ll improve the other aspects if managed correctly but we’re asking too much of him just now and that’s the same of a few others who lack experience, if Jefferson gets injured we’ll really struggle to create anything. Rudden a huge miss already.
A few too many weaker players in the team last night and it’s showed. Small margins and you can carry a couple players but we were carrying about 4 last night and didn’t get away with it. Can see where Lenny is coming from regarding squad depth for sure but he hasn’t helped his arguement with boothe. Maybe last night result will us bring in a loan or 2 before the window shuts.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 24 Sep 07:58
Prettty evident we don`t have the strength and depth to do much rotating.
I`m sure Lennon will know his strongest team now and it and, injuries aside, i think 2 (at least) from last night aren`t part of it.
Benedictus worth a wee shout as well from last night. Second game in a row he was brilliant again.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 24 Sep 08:04
I agree 100% with NLs post match comments. Far to passive in the first half. You don`t win anything by being passive. I wonder if this mentality is a bit historical and a leftover from last season. I recall in pre match interviews where over the course of the season, players mentioned words like "fear," "respect" etc. Those kinds of passive/submissive comments would concern me as a manager. Last season has gone and it`s time as a team, we fear nobody, only give teams respect where it`s deserved, play to our own strengths, let other teams know who they are playing against. The improvement in the play over the last 6 months has been vast. Night and day. We should be in the position now where teams fear us, not the other way around. At the end of the day, you are only ever as good as your last game. You have to produce every week and that is primarily about the right mental attitude going into the game. All of the players have the relevant skills and ability, so winning and losing boils down to getting the mental attitude right. I agree with NL that the switch needs to be flipped from the hangover of last year. That's gone, it's about looking forward and being confident in where the team as a whole can go.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Wed 24 Sep 08:08)
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Wed 24 Sep 08:55
If we went into the game fearing Ayr then we are in deep ****.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:04
We are much better than last year but I think the quality of most of the teams has improved as well.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:08
In the build up to the St J game Lennon actually said the players were nervous. I couldn`t believe he said that.
And it absolutely showed in the first 20mins, they should have been 3 down.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:13
You never like to loose games, but last night was the type of game that I hate to loose. I thought we lost it because we didn’t hit our levels, and seemed to resort back to the way we played under McPake, at the same time Ayr knew how to make themselves hard to beat and were a lot more experienced and street wise than what we had on the park. Without opening up and going for us, in the way that St.Johnstone did only days before, had it not been for decent Goalkeeping and poor finishing, it could have been 2 or 3.
I’ve read elsewhere that Lennon has put his hands up and said he got his team selection wrong, but he was pretty restricted with the players dropping out, but again, I’ve spoke about the drop in quality in the squad and it was evident again last night. You take Fraser out, there’s a big drop with Otoo, take Amade out there’s a huge drop with TOB, etc etc. in fact, on those 2, I can’t believe we have rejected bids for Otoo, it looks like he has forgotten everything about playing football, and don’t get me started on TOB, the opening day aside, I have just never seen it with him.
The big talking point pre match, was the change of Goalkeeper. Must admit that I was in favour of taking Munn out, he’s not done much to fill me with confidence. I thought Murrell looked ok, was unlucky with the goal he conceded, but looked weak with the initial save before it hit the post. That aside, his distribution was an improvement on Munn and he did well to norrow his angles and made a couple of decent stops. It’ll be interesting where he goes from here.
I’m surprised at the lack of comments regarding JCM. I said to my son a few weeks back that people are going to start targeting this routine, fall and leg stretch that he does time and time again in the game, and that happened last night. The second one happened in front of me and although Holt is initiated the contacted, with the extended leg and JCM hitting his knee, you’re giving the Ref a decision to make. Holt has used his experience on this one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if data analysis people are picking it up and players are now looking for it. I don’t think JCM looks as comfortable and assured as he did last season, and at times he does give me the fear, especially when he goes into “Bambi On Ice” mode. It’s going to be interesting what Lennon does for the Partick game, does Abdulai come in for his debute or does he shift Otoo again, I suppose time will tell.
The Chris Kane situation is one that’s starting to raise concern, and I can’t help but think there’s more going on than we know. The game reminded me a lot of the Morton once last season, when Kane changed the game, bagged a hat trick and we turned it around. I think it needs to come to a head sooner rather than later.
So a frustrating night, where Tod, Caceres and Kane probably would have scored on another day, but by and large, just not good enough. You can’t expect to just play with purpose and tempo for the last 15 or so minutes of a game and expect to always snatch something from it.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:18
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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 24 Sep 07:58
Benedictus worth a wee shout as well from last night. Second game in a row he was brilliant again.
Spot on TAFKA. I must say that he has turned me around mate. I would have had him gone but (Ross County game apart because I couldn’t make that one) I think he has been excellent so far this season and showing himself to be a real asset.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:28
"Frustrating game overall. Lucky goal for Ayr IMO. They didn’t offer much else and you’d have thought they were down to 10 men majority of second half not us. Unless there was a reason then Otoo starting at LB was very poor decision considering how well Fraser played on Friday."
Ayr had some glaring misses in the second half as the game progressed and could/should have had another couple.
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:54
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cammypar 1995, Wed 24 Sept 07:48
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
Didn`t Amade come on for Gilmour 🤔
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 24 Sep 10:21
Yes, he did!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 24 Sep 11:09
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pacifist, Wed 24 Sep 09:04
We are much better than last year but I think the quality of most of the teams has improved as well.
I wasn’t impressed by Ayr last night.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 24 Sep 11:10
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Gem 1977, Wed 24 Sep 09:54
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 24 Sept 07:48
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
Didn`t Amade come on for Gilmour 🤔
What game were you watching, Cammy?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 24 Sep 11:10
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Buster_Brown, Wed 24 Sep 09:18
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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 24 Sep 07:58
Benedictus worth a wee shout as well from last night. Second game in a row he was brilliant again.
Spot on TAFKA. I must say that he has turned me around mate. I would have had him gone but (Ross County game apart because I couldn’t make that one) I think he has been excellent so far this season and showing himself to be a real asset.
Bene was MOM by a country mile.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: p4r5f4n
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:28
Glad to see Berkey has found a victim for the season.
I have this recurring vision of him hunched over his laptop sucking soor plooms and sipping a glass of best malt vinegar.
I think I need to lie down now 🤣
Post Edited (Wed 24 Sep 13:28)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:38
Ayr seem to be a bit of a bogey team these days. Always seem to be rubbish but get a result, always using gamesmanship like time wasting, kicking the ball away, wee nudges off the ball etc. Hate playing against them.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:54
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 24 Sept 07:48
I thought Lennon got the team all wrong last night IMO but after hearing the post match interview it shows how limited our options still are. Ayr pressed us well in the first half and put us under pressure, but instead of trying to play through it, we resorted back to Tidser ball. which just isn’t good enough. Far too timid all over the park.
JCM touch is a liability. His second touch is always a tackle, and his first touch is so poor it got him booked early doors.
TOB honestly, a waste of a jersey. He offers absolutely nothing. The lack of effort from him just left Gilmour stranded, and I’d say that was Gilmour’s worst game in a Pars shirt but he was doing the job of 2 until Amade came on.
We only started playing once we went down to 10 men. Still no real quality apart from the Tod effort that came off the post. Fraser was a big improvement when he came on and finally gave us a threat down the left. Before that, everything just ended up back at the back 3.
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
For me it`s time to cut our losses with kane. Lennon clearly doesn’t trust him to play longer than those 10 minute cameos and if this is what him "managing my calf problems" looks like we are in trouble. With Rudden missing we’ve got no focal point up top, but I’d rather see a youngster given 10 minutes than persist with Kane. Pay him out his contract and move on with someone new in January. I doubt he’ll accept it though.
Saturday becomes huge now. Need a massive change in mentality because what we showed last night wasn’t near the level required.
Did Amade not come on for Gilmour?
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:59
He did.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Wed 24 Sep 16:47
Starting to think Lennon has lost patience with Kane. You can’t be competing at the right end of the table if your striker is never fit.
It’s frustrating because we were really crying out for a presence up top, especially as we got hold of the game we were missing that threat in the final third.
Surely he was fit enough for more than the last 10mins and I was wondering if Lennon was making a point with that.
I actually hope he plays v partick because we need a proper striker in the team and looks like Rudden will be out now.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 24 Sep 18:03
P4r5f4n that was you at the window! :)
I’ll give him his due he is very young and raw and this league is a very steep learning curve in which to cut your teeth in the mans game but if we’re asking him to lead the line against a physical team team happy to sit in, its going to be a very long game for all involved.
I’m sure the plan wasn’t for him to start every game but the injury to rudden and kanes continuing injuries mean we’re relying on a player who’s general play is actually quite poor, this is made worse by starting otoo and boothe who are passengers at this level.
If Lennon doesn’t fancy Kane and rudden is out for a longer period of time then here’s hoping we can go and get a striker on loan.
Suprised we’ve not managed to loan any of the current squad out to make more space either.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 24 Sep 18:13
Lennon`s comments about Kane in his post-match interview on COWS hardly suggest he `doesn`t fancy Kane` but that he is just as frustrated as everyone else that his time has to be `managed`.
For some reason Andrew Tod is now being targeted as the latest graduate from our Academy. NL has been quite clear about his attributes and admits striker is probably not his best position but let`s just ignore that and judge him as a straight replacement for Rudden or Kane.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 25 Sep 07:15
Kane should never have been handed such a long contract in the first place. His fitness record before he even came here wasn’t great, and realistically the club should have built in a pay as you play clause to protect ourselves.
On top of that, he clearly doesn’t train to the level Lennon expects, which clearly he was able to get away with under previous managers. No one can deny he’s a talented player, but the reason he’s playing at our level rather than higher up is simple, he’s just too unreliable.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Thu 25 Sep 07:16)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 25 Sep 12:39
Surely Kane can give you more than 5 minutes though?
We’re throwing in Tod as lone striker while we try to protect Kane. Might as well go with Kane and see if you can eek 45 minutes out of him as he offers more than just finishing. If Kane then gets injured or suffers a recurrence then that’s the risk and what have you lost compared to now? someone to try and do something in the last few minutes of the game?
Also never mind fitness how is Kane going to get match sharp with only 5 minutes on the park each game?
The training arguement doesn’t wash with me, Lennon was happy to put wanyama on the park last season, flipping John Clark was fitter than him!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 25 Sep 13:13
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cammypar 1995, Thu 25 Sep 07:15
Kane should never have been handed such a long contract in the first place. His fitness record before he even came here wasn’t great, and realistically the club should have built in a pay as you play clause to protect ourselves.
That’s easy to say in hindsight, ultimately McPake knew signing him was a risk but it was a risk he was willing to take and a risk that the board were willing to back, in the hope that it came off. By and large, it has.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 25 Sep 13:21
If Kane is such a risk will the club move for a striker on loan if one is available? Rudden could be out for months.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 25 Sep 14:06
If Rudden is out for months, I think it is imperative to get a loan striker in if we have any aspirations at all about finishing in the top 4. Who that is though is anybody`s guess. We have a team full of No.10s at the moment.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 25 Sep 14:18
can they afford a 29th first team player or have to try and get several players out while bringing in as much as they can in wage contributions to afford one?
the Kane situation isnt new so to be in this situation is poor.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 25 Sep 14:52
The thing with Kane is:
He could in theory play 60 minutes right now but we would be lucky to see him for 3 games in a row and he’s then be out the next two. Last season told us that much.
By giving him less game time, he’s much more likely to be available every match even if it just for 10-15 minutes.
I don’t think Kane is happy with that but that’s how Neil Lennon is seeing the situation imo
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 25 Sep 16:00
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CrossPar, Thu 25 Sept 14:06
If Rudden is out for months, I think it is imperative to get a loan striker in if we have any aspirations at all about finishing in the top 4. Who that is though is anybody`s guess. We have a team full of No.10s at the moment.
At least we don`t look like a team of No.2`s any more? Wayhey!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 25 Sep 19:15
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Raymie the Legend, Wed 24 Sept 11:10
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Gem 1977, Wed 24 Sep 09:54
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cammypar 1995, Wed 24 Sept 07:48
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
Didn`t Amade come on for Gilmour 🤔
What game were you watching, Cammy?
This is the issue with AI, you have to sense check it
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 25 Sep 20:56
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red-star-par, Thu 25 Sep 19:15
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Raymie the Legend, Wed 24 Sept 11:10
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Gem 1977, Wed 24 Sep 09:54
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cammypar 1995, Wed 24 Sept 07:48
Amade showed good promise when introduced, and even Gilmour looked better after that point. They are really a class above when playing together.
Didn`t Amade come on for Gilmour 🤔
What game were you watching, Cammy?
This is the issue with AI, you have to sense check it
Spooky old thing, I thought this the other day when I read his comment 😂
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 26 Sep 10:37
I think we definitely need to prioritise another loan, even though Lennon doesn’t seem to rate the loan market. We have a few players who can play as a 10, but no real experience up top.
Rudden is a big blow, and we can’t rely on Kane although he’s the only real experience we have at the moment.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Fri 26 Sep 10:38)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 26 Sep 11:05
Barney Stewart in from Falkirk
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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