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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 9 Oct 10:25
There`s no thread on this yet so here we go.
I`m heading through tonight, becoming a regular thing after not really going to any Scotland matches for years. I enjoy my trips to Hampden, mainly as it gives me an altogether different set of emotions and new ways to be disappointed by football. A change is as good as a rest, you know what they say.
Could be any result tonight but I`m buoyed by the fact that some of our key players are heading into it with regular game time and in decent form.
If I`m Steve Clarke I`m getting the ball to (Gannon) Doak at every opportunity and getting the crowd on their feet so with that in mind i`m going to enjoy his four minute cameo off the bench once we`re chasing a goal.
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Thu 9 Oct 10:45
Watching the game on a Greek Island (Kastellorizo), should be lively.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 9 Oct 11:19
Lessons to be learned about how easily they cut us apart in the last visit to Hampden but bouyed by the discipline we showed defensivley in Copenhagen last month.
Expect a similar line up
Gunn
Hickey
Soutar
Hanley
Robertson
McGinn
McTominay
Gilmour (ferguson)
Christie
Adams
Dykes
Disciplined and structures in defence with outlets to attack when we are in possession.
A win tonight and going 4 points clear of the Greeks with 3 games to play is massive whilst Danes likley take 4/5 goals off a poor Belaraus side
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 12:53
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Thu 9 Oct 11:19
Lessons to be learned about how easily they cut us apart in the last visit to Hampden but bouyed by the discipline we showed defensivley in Copenhagen last month.
Expect a similar line up
Gunn
Hickey
Soutar
Hanley
Robertson
McGinn
McTominay
Gilmour (ferguson)
Christie
Adams
Dykes
Disciplined and structures in defence with outlets to attack when we are in possession.
A win tonight and going 4 points clear of the Greeks with 3 games to play is massive whilst Danes likley take 4/5 goals off a poor Belaraus side
Id like him go stick to 4 at the back and have an extra in midfield, but I fear he will go back to 5 at the back tonight for some reason. Whoever is marking Karetsas tonight has to keep tight and make him feel uncomfy early on. If he’s allowed free rein we are in trouble.
Two big games this week, take 6 points and we have a chance of topping group. Anything less and it will be hard.
Post Edited (Thu 09 Oct 12:53)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 9 Oct 14:24
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 9 Oct 12:53
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Thu 9 Oct 11:19
Lessons to be learned about how easily they cut us apart in the last visit to Hampden but bouyed by the discipline we showed defensivley in Copenhagen last month.
Expect a similar line up
Gunn
Hickey
Soutar
Hanley
Robertson
McGinn
McTominay
Gilmour (ferguson)
Christie
Adams
Dykes
Disciplined and structures in defence with outlets to attack when we are in possession.
A win tonight and going 4 points clear of the Greeks with 3 games to play is massive whilst Danes likley take 4/5 goals off a poor Belaraus side
Id like him go stick to 4 at the back and have an extra in midfield, but I fear he will go back to 5 at the back tonight for some reason. Whoever is marking Karetsas tonight has to keep tight and make him feel uncomfy early on. If he’s allowed free rein we are in trouble.
Two big games this week, take 6 points and we have a chance of topping group. Anything less and it will be hard.
Listened to Sportsound podcast and Karetsas is doubtful to start having been ill recently.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 9 Oct 17:10
I think he’ll go a bit of a 4-2-3-1. Greeks strength is in midfield/attacking midfield. I think he’ll flood it with bodies then try and create chances from wide.
COYP
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 9 Oct 18:11
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 9 Oct 17:10
I think he’ll go a bit of a 4-2-3-1. Greeks strength is in midfield/attacking midfield. I think he’ll flood it with bodies then try and create chances from wide.
Yeah I’m expecting 1 up front tonight with Dykes and a five in midfield
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 18:55
Gunn
Hickey
Souttar
Hanley
Robertson
Ferguson
Christie
Doak
McTominay
McGinn
Adams
Starting line up Im guessing
Post Edited (Thu 09 Oct 18:56)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 19:01
LINE-UPS from Hampden
published at 18:36 BST
18:36 BST
Scotland v Greece (19:45 BST)
Scotland: Gunn, Hickey, Hanley, Souttar, Robertson, Gannon-Doak, Ferguson, Christie, McGinn, McTominay, Adams.
Substitutes: Kelly, Gordon, Tierney, Gilmour, Dykes, Hendry, Miller, McKenna, Hirst, Bowie, Ralston, McLean.
Greece: Tzolakis, Vagiannidis, Mavropanos, Koulierakis, Tsimikas, Kourbelis, Zafeiris, Masouras, Baketsas, Tzolis, Pavlidis.
Substitutes: Vlachodimos, Mandas, Michailidis, Ioannidis, Douvikas, Rota, Mouzakitis, Konstantelias, Karetsas, Mantalos, Giannoulis, Siopis.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 9 Oct 19:09
that`s a decent line up.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 19:39
Mon Scotland 🏴!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 19:56
Should be 0-1. What a miss.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 9 Oct 19:58
Struggling to find our feet and should be a goal down already.
Have we learned anything from the 3-0 in March?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:01
Doak looks out of his depth and early doors we look very poor.
Post Edited (Thu 09 Oct 20:02)
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:16
Been horrendous so far.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:17
Much better side than us. Well done incredibly well to weather this.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:19
I wish we could just have a go .
Clarke must be the most negative manager in the world . That`s including Levein .
Another awful watch so far .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:36
No movement, passing far too slow, inviting the press, nothing sticking up top... it`s just like some Pars matches of recent vintage.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:38
The couple of times we pressed their back line, we won the ball back and had our best spells. They`re pressing with a front 4, winning nothing when it gets played forward, and really missing Gilmour making the space. Ferguson and Christie have struggled to have the same impact.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:45
In modern football you need defenders that are comfortable on the ball and can bring it out from defence and break forward into midfield and link play. Mullen and J Tod are perfect examples. Soutar and Hanley may be decent enough defenders but they are dinosaurs when it comes to looking comfortable on the ball and bring it out as opposed to continually passing side ways and backwards or hoofing it up the park.
Back four means we have no wing backs. Not pressing as a team either so it’s no surprised we have been dreadful in an attacking sense.
Get Tierney on, go to a back five, get wing backs up the field. Ferguson off. He has been poor every single time I have seen him in a Scotland shirt. No idea how he is revered in Bologna. Average at best.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:46
Quote:
kelty_par, Thu 9 Oct 20:36
No movement, passing far too slow, inviting the press, nothing sticking up top... it`s just like some Pars matches of recent vintage.
Exactly what I was thinking!
What this game needs is Kenny McLean (joke)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:51
Che Adams seems to be working hard but he’s totally isolated. McTominay needs to get closer. Wingers need to get further forward as well. Played one or two patches of good football but we are losing the midfield battle. Our work rate has to go up. I don’t think we’ll out play them but we can outwork and run them - no problem.
COYP
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:56
Ferguson is an attacking midfielder played as a defensive midfielder in a negative Scotland team. Always been that way. He will never show what he is capable of. Clarke playing a must win game, but with Mustn`t lose tactics as usual. We keep hearing how amazingly talented the Greek team is, but its not exactly stacked with guys at the top. They just have a good manager with a winning mentality. The Scotland players look like they have no belief.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Oct 20:57
How there are no changes in shape or personal is utterly baffling.
This is dreadful.
Change it Clarke for gods sake…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:01
Absolutely woeful are dykes and Adams still there
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:03
Clarke is lost. Look at him in discussion with the other coaches. He has no clue…..he looks utterly baffled and confused.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:09
Big trouble now
0-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Lenstar
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:09
DUNG
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:10
Get Clarke to feck. Absolute dinosaur football
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:11
GOALLLLLLLL
1-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Hockeyboy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:14
How the hell are we level.........actually I don`t care C`MON SCOTLAND ,🏴
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:15
Hope we wake up now. A Scotland win and Clarke`s a genius.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:19
It`s farcical that, after a VAR decision, we don`t get to see a replay of the incident. Are the TV companies not allowed to show them?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:20
Better late than never!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:26
GOALLLLLLLL no2!!!!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:26
Clarke`s a genius...
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:26
Goal Scotland!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:28
Been all over them all game.
Never in doubt ….
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:39
GOALLLLLLLL no3!!!!!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:41
Oh ye of little faith...!!!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:41
We`ve won!!!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:44
Yahoorsir!!!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:46
Well, well,well, I obviously know nothing about football and our manager is a tactical genius.
Tbh we used up about five games worth of luck tonight……..que será será…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:46
Some save by Gunn right near the end there.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:46
In the end, we deserved that. A couple of changes and we increased the intensity and work rate. They look a great footballing team but rather soft in the end.
Btw Angus Gunn - what a save!
COYP
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:48
Unbelievable, rank awful for 65 mins.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:48
The Greeks clearly cant defend. Shame we didn`t try and take advantage of that. Some save by Gunn, he got it tight after the Euros and to be fair he had little to do tonight but that save got us 3 points
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Topic Originator: jas
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:49
3 shots on target and scored with them all
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:50
Well done Scotland 👏
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:54
Never in doubt
http:www.ibb.co/sp4ctxPq
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Oct 21:55
The wee guy with the mic interviewing Mcann and Brown trying to give Clarke credit….🤣🤔…..Luck pure luck, nothing more….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:06
Posh padded seat booked for Sunday’s match
Noo how to get there !
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:13
Quote:
desparado, Thu 9 Oct 21:55
The wee guy with the mic interviewing Mcann and Brown trying to give Clarke credit….🤣🤔…..Luck pure luck, nothing more….
Clarke deserves some credit. It’s not the first time we’ve got the results we needed during his tenure. Performance means nothing if you lose. Going into Belarus at the weekend with the most points we could have hoped for 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:21
If by some miracle Steve Clarke gets us to the World Cup, the SFA need to fire him the day after qualification.
No one can be that lucky for that long.
Post Edited (Thu 09 Oct 22:22)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:22
Clarke said 3-1 flattered us a little 🤷
Glad we won but this team can produce more if allowed to.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:36
We got away with that tonight…..that first half was up there with one of the worst halves of football Ive ever witnessed. Thank god the 2nd half made up for it!
For the rest of qualification that has worked out perfectly for us. Win on Sunday and it’s a big chance.
Clarkes got lucky tonight though. That wasn’t a tactical masterclass at all. Poor defending from crosses and a god awful error from the keeper provided us with the points.
Post Edited (Thu 09 Oct 22:38)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 22:43
The points were secured before the goalkeeper`s howler.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:00
"One of the most spectacular acts of pickpocketry you will see in football,"
Makes it all the more sweeter.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:17
Quote:
BlackLight, Thu 9 Oct 22:21
If by some miracle Steve Clarke gets us to the World Cup, the SFA need to fire him the day after qualification.
No one can be that lucky for that long.
😂😂😂😂
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:37
Quote:
Paralex, Thu 9 Oct 22:43
The points were secured before the goalkeeper`s howler.
Except they weren’t as Greece still looked a threat at 2-1 ala Gunns save.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:39
Scotland`s record in our last 10 WC qualifiers is W8 D1 L1. That`s a remarkable stat which suggests Steve Clarke knows how to get results, but some fans expect him to change his approach. I don`t think he will. He puts a lot of faith in team spirit, familiarity with each other and the wiĺl to win at the expense of flair and unpredictability.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:50
Except they were Dave, because Greece didn`t score a second goal, or am I missing something?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:53
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 9 Oct 23:39
Scotland`s record in our last 10 WC qualifiers is W8 D1 L1. That`s a remarkable stat which suggests Steve Clarke knows how to get results, but some fans expect him to change his approach. I don`t think he will. He puts a lot of faith in team spirit, familiarity with each other and the wiĺl to win at the expense of flair and unpredictability.
Let’s not beat around the bush here though - he knows how to get results sometimes. He has his fair share of bad results in big games.
Ukraine, Greece, Hungary to name a few.
The football can also be turgid to watch. That first half tonight was awful. The 2nd half wasn’t much better, but we got the rub of the green and took our 3 chances when they came.
He needs to alter his approach in certain games. He has shown he can change his set up formation wise, but the tactical approach needs to be improved if we really want to compete at a higher level.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 Oct 23:55
Quote:
Paralex, Thu 9 Oct 23:50
Except they were Dave, because Greece didn`t score a second goal, or am I missing something?
The third was a gift that secured the points. The rest is all conjecture and hypotheticals on both sides. The points weren’t secured at 2-1 with 3 minutes to go.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 10 Oct 00:08
It looks like he got `the rub of the green` in the last 10 qualifiers. I think where he struggles is with `tournament football` which is a completely different kind of competition. I think he admitted that after the Euros in Germany and we might see a different approach if we qualify for the WC.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 10 Oct 00:36
We could go on with this ad infinitum Dave and life is too short. The fact that they only scored one goal in the game means that our two goals was enough to beat them. We didn`t require the third goal. All other theories are pure speculation. Our second goal won the game. No point in speculating what might have happened if we hadn`t scored the third. Two goals was enough to win the game because they only scored one.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Fri 10 Oct 00:49
Well that was a rollercoaster of emotions. Nights like tonight are why I`ll never stop watching football. There`s nothing like it. Great to get some luck as a Scotland fan.
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