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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 14 Nov 17:04
Looks like we need two victories or a draw and a win to achieve automatic qualification to world cup. We already have a playoff place if necessary. Our form hasn`t been too convincing but we have managed to get into a reasonably good position.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 14 Nov 17:25
Quote:
Paralex, Fri 14 Nov 17:04
Looks like we need two victories or a draw and a win to achieve automatic qualification to world cup. We already have a playoff place if necessary. Our form hasn`t been too convincing but we have managed to get into a reasonably good position.
Beating Greece doesn’t help due to Denmark’s goal difference, a draw is all we need. Then beat Denmark on Tuesday at Hampden.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Fri 14 Nov 17:30
Last 8 competitive internationals
Won 6
Drew 2
Lost 1
Im not sure that`s really unconvincing form....
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 14 Nov 19:02
Maybe some would say the results have been good but the performances slightly less than convincing alwaysapar but I would take another couple of poor performances if we make it to the World Cup.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 00:19
I actually don’t get the management’s tactics. The players seem to be baffled as to what they are supposed to be doing.They are far too cautious,as we know as pars fans,in the past,that is not what we want to see. There are good players in there,but I think they are shackled by negative tactics. I predict a narrow defeat,I hope I’m proved wrong.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 15 Nov 01:24
Aye, that`s why Scotland are two games away from qualifying for the World Cup. First time since 1998.
Should get some slaver from .net to manage the team next campaign.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Nov 18:32
4 at the back and a 40 year old Craig Gordon in goals……please get the draw we need 🤞🏻
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Nov 18:47
Greece: Vlachodimos, Vagiannidis, Retsos, Koulierakis, Tsimikas, Kourbelis, Mouzakitis, Karetsas, Bakasetas, Tzolis, Pavlidis.
Substitutes: Tzolakis, Mandas, Michailidis, Masouras, Kostoulas, Rota, Triantis, Hatzidiakos, Tetteh, Mantalos, Siopis.
Scotland: Gordon, Hickey, Hanley, Souttar, Robertson, Ferguson, Christie, McGinn, McTominay, Gannon-Doak, Adams.
Substitutes: Kelly, Bain, Tierney, Irving, Dykes, Hendry, Barron, McKenna, Hirst, Shankland, Ralston, McLean.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 18:57
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 15 Nov 18:32
4 at the back and a 40 year old Craig Gordon in goals……please get the draw we need 🤞🏻
A boring as feck 0-0 would suffice.
Unfortunately you can bet that’s EXACTLY what Clarke is aiming for.
We have shown that we can play, we can score, Greece have nothing to play for except pride - let’s take them!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:45
Mon Scotland!! 🏴
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:52
Greece 1-0
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:54
I hope we are saying by the end of this going behind early was a blessing in disguise.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:55
Souttar and Hanley all over the shop
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:57
Playing against 12 here.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Nov 19:57
What was that yellow for? Is one of the Championship referees been giving out tips?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Nov 20:11
Has McTominay touched the ball yet?
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 20:19
Right now more worried about getting to the finals and being humiliated.
Need to show something here.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Sat 15 Nov 20:21
Clarke needs to GTF! When it comes to the important games he resorts to thus awful tippy tappy defensive rubbish! We saw it in the playoffs for the Euros where we should have won easily but had to rely on pens! The Euros last year we were easily the worst team in the tournament and today we are set up like we are playing Brazil not a Greece we’ve beaten twice in a year!
No Passion and No Fight
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Nov 20:28
Ref is giving them all the niggly fouls going….its quite infuriating the minute they hit the deck its a “foul”.
We have been an absolute horror show though which doesnt help.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Nov 20:36
Adams and Doak have to do better there…..least the tide turned at the end of the half and we kept it to one
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:02
😔
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:05
Hanley done yet again……we haven’t taken our chances but also should’ve been about 4 down at HT 🙄 lets hope Belarus get a leveller cause thats what we now need
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:06
Hanley having a mare.
Lack quality up front - should’ve scored two or three.
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Topic Originator: Murphy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:07
Hanley should be nowhere near that team.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:08
Nae surprise we’ll have to do it the hard way
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:08
Hammered.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:08
Belarus equalise
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:09
GOALLLLLLLL
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:12
1 - 2 Belarus !
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:13
Denmark 1 Belarus 2
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:14
GOALLLLLLLL no2!!’
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:15
3-2 come on Scotland.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:15
Jeezo
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:19
Need to get Adam off for Dyke
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:20
As it stands, with Belarus winning, weve got to go for it. . .get another striker on ! Nothing to lose now.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:26
Denmark 2-2 Belarus
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:28
Someone tell Clarke the draw is everything here, need to roll the dice
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:29
Greece down to ten men!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:33
Greece diving about all over the place.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:35
Would be so Scottish if Denmark score.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:37
Awful dark arts from Greece. We`ve had the chances.
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:40
Too little. Too late.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:46
Denmark drew. Game on for Tuesday
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:46
FT Denmark 2-2 Belarus
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:46
2-2 FT in Denmark.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:48
I need a telly in ma bathroom, Wee Eck!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Nov 21:52
Or a bath in your telly room!
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sat 15 Nov 22:09
If only we would be allowed to play with some positive intent from the start the we would`ve got 3 points. Last time at home against Denmark we blew them away. We need to find a better balance against the negative play
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Nov 22:24
I can`t imagine Steve Clarke told them to start like that. The players have to take some responsibility.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 15 Nov 22:25
Well my prediction was more or less right.Far too cautious at the start,why did we not get in about them from the off? Luckily,the other result went for us.
Post Edited (Sat 15 Nov 22:37)
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sun 16 Nov 00:17
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 15 Nov 22:24
I can`t imagine Steve Clarke told them to start like that. The players have to take some responsibility.
I`d hope its that, but its too often and so unlike any of these players. Denmark are nothing like the Demmark of 4 years ago and are certainly there to be beaten
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Nov 00:21
The key to tonight was having a 1 game shoot out v Denmark on Tuesday……somehow we have managed that!
We should have got a third tonight, but also could have been 3/4 down, so will take it!
Let’s go win on Tuesday and make heroes of this group!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 16 Nov 04:29
Maybe we could have been 3 or 4 down. We were actually 3 down.
We came back from that and from what I saw we could also have won it by 3 or 4.
Hit the bar and several crucial (or flukey) saves by their defence thwarted us.
I only saw the highlights though.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:07
Sadly at imes superb and unlucky, but two cart horses at the back, make us very vulnerable.
Well done to gordon for keeping us in it, and their keeper kept a win for them.
Am i going to be hacked off on tuesday night, probably, but thats what being a scotland fan does.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:15
A game of 2 goalkeepers, Hanley and Souttar were mince!🤔🏴
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:21
What possible reason did Clarke have for not allowing Craig Gordon to come up for the corner at the end?
Losing a 4th goal wouldn’t have mattered, and they were down to 10 men, so we would’ve had an unmarked player in the box.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:28
He did come up for the corner.
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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:37
Perhaps if we hadn`t started the game playing for a draw we might have won it
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:52
Quote:
Big T Par, Sun 16 Nov 10:28
He did come up for the corner.
No he didn`t. He was back on the halfway line when it was taken.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:53
He ran forward for the corner and was ordered back to half way when he reached the box.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:54
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Sun 16 Nov 10:21
What possible reason did Clarke have for not allowing Craig Gordon to come up for the corner at the end?
Losing a 4th goal wouldn’t have mattered, and they were down to 10 men, so we would’ve had an unmarked player in the box.
I can only presume because the Denmark game was still in the balance, he didn’t want to risk losing another goal as we chased an equaliser.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:58
Clarke stated that he does not like goalkeepers up for corners, he said he`s rather have another outfielder in the box.
That`s why Gordon was waved back.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Nov 10:58
If we had been playing for a draw surely he would have started with McLean in midfield rather than Christie?
For me it was a game that defied analysis. We started poorly and could have been a few goals down before we got going. McTominay was anonymous until he exploded into life and hit the bar just before half-time when we started to create a few chances. We know from previous games against them that Greece play attractive attacking football but are a bit fragile in defence especially against crosses and so it proved.
We started the second half the better team and Christie/Adams should have scored before we lost two poor goals, the second one being a mistake by Gordon who had kept us in the game in the first half. After that we went for it and McGinn and McTominay became more influential but we just fell short.
Goodness knows what to expect on Tuesday.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 11:02
Quote:
Connor560, Sun 16 Nov 10:53
He ran forward for the corner and was ordered back to half way when he reached the box.
Ah apologies, just saw him coming up and assumed he was in the box
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sun 16 Nov 11:25
I did initially as well to be fair
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 12:01
Tuesday is gonna be some night.
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Topic Originator: MessiPar
Date: Sun 16 Nov 12:02
to be fair, I have always thought the keeper running up for late corners is very amateurish. How often do they score.
Do all teams keep their corner specialists in goal for 90mins?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 16 Nov 12:17
Quote:
Big T Par, Sun 16 Nov 12:01
Tuesday is gonna be some night.
Hope so, I have a customer dinner in Germany and I need to consider as many excuses as possible to leave early. 😂
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 12:22
Quote:
parsmad68, Sun 16 Nov 12:17
Quote:
Big T Par, Sun 16 Nov 12:01
Tuesday is gonna be some night.
Hope so, I have a customer dinner in Germany and I need to consider as many excuses as possible to leave early. 😂
Fancy going to the Dortmund game on Saturday pal?
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 16 Nov 13:10
Thet team was a mess yet again. It was only when we had to score that Clarke`s shackles were ripped off and the team looked decent.
Time`s up for Clarke IMO
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Nov 13:29
So you`d sack him even if we win on Tuesday?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 16 Nov 13:36
Quote:
Big T Par, Sun 16 Nov 12:22
Quote:
parsmad68, Sun 16 Nov 12:17
Quote:
Big T Par, Sun 16 Nov 12:01
Tuesday is gonna be some night.
Hope so, I have a customer dinner in Germany and I need to consider as many excuses as possible to leave early. 😂
Fancy going to the Dortmund game on Saturday pal?
Unfortunately not. In Munich and flying back on Friday night for the footie on Saturday. Should be a cracker.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 16 Nov 14:05
👍
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 16 Nov 15:28
I watched the end again.
50 seconds left. McGinn takes the corner, and Ralston is on the edge of the D. Gordon is presumably on the halfway line where he can’t affect the game.
So Greece have 9 outfield players in the box vs our 8.
Even if you don’t back Gordon to score, why couldn’t he stand where Ralston was and allow Ralston (who’s scored a header for Scotland before) to go in the box or show for a short corner and drag a defender with him?
McGinn then wins a free kick. He takes it with 19 seconds left. The Greeks have a one man wall, and Ralston is again outside the box, so we go 8 vs 8 outfield players in the box. We’ve got Dykes, Hirst and Shankland on at this point, so the Greeks have got their hands full.
If the ball gets back to Gordon at this point, then the full time whistle has already gone.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 16 Nov 23:32
Dont like his tactics and therefore his team selection. I also hate his personality in interviews, sums himself up.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Nov 09:18
We`re constantly told football is a results-based business and Steve Clarke knows that. It`s easy to forget we were seeded to finish third in our group. It would be nice to play a more expansive style but do we have the players to do that and still get results?
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 17 Nov 09:36
It`s easy to criticise Clarke but you have to look at what he`s got to work with...who are the players he could be picking instead who`s in the squad already?
There`s quality in midfield but defence, attack (Gannon-Doak excepted), and keeper we`re weak, and I don`t see many options not in squad that are better than what`s there.
It`s very reminiscent of the end of Craig Brown era where a team of decent `honest pros` perhaps overachieve, but there`s no replacements to come in once they`ve gone. I feel another Berti Vogts era coming on, irrespective of whether we qualify or not.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Nov 09:42
Clarke is as boring as they come, but he`s also been highly effective as manager.
The big plus for Scotland is we seem to have a pretty exciting crop of new young players coming through.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 17 Nov 10:08
"I can`t imagine Steve Clarke told them to start like that. The players have to take some responsibility."
was over for the game and seen very limited highlights back but 3 times in the opening 5 mins Gordon launches it long, straight up the middle, over Adams head, their keeper gathers and rolls out to start an attack. We go 1 down and then we start playing out form the back, keeping th eball, controlling the tempo etc. That must be through instruction.
Main thing now is tomorrow night. Start like a train with tempo, get the Hampden roar roaring and as shown in the past we can take anyone in a one off game. Go cautious, invite pressure, crowd groaning and on the backs and it becomes a long night.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Mon 17 Nov 11:47
The players are trying their best for us but I think they maybe try too hard and lose their professionalism. We don`t have the best group of players in the world but they have got some excellent results. There are also a relatively new group of boo -boy fans who I wonder what they are about, werent around until a few years ago. I think the mid-week games are a nightmare and that the hard core Scotland fans from the north and northeast struggle to get there whereas Saturdays were perfect. Now we have possibly fans from other west of Scotland clubs who don`t have Scotland as their main focus in higher numbers. The Tuesday atmosphere will be interesting particularly if we lose the first goal.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 12:27
Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Nov 09:42
Clarke is as boring as they come, but he`s also been highly effective as manager.
The big plus for Scotland is we seem to have a pretty exciting crop of new young players coming through.
Jake, I promise I’m not having a go but I’ve read your post and I’m wracking my brains trying to think of the crop of young players you allude to. Doak aside I’m struggling to think of players with genuine international potential especially in central defence or goalkeeper positions.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Nov 12:50
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 12:27
Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Nov 09:42
Clarke is as boring as they come, but he`s also been highly effective as manager.
The big plus for Scotland is we seem to have a pretty exciting crop of new young players coming through.
Jake, I promise I’m not having a go but I’ve read your post and I’m wracking my brains trying to think of the crop of young players you allude to. Doak aside I’m struggling to think of players with genuine international potential especially in central defence or goalkeeper positions.
I`m referring to our own players who should make their way through if they play their cards right. It`s positive that Clarke had them train with the seniors for experience. I`m not suggesting they`re ready to step up just yet though.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 17 Nov 13:02
Keepers - the highest potential one is probably McKenna...ex Queens Park, now at Bournemouth.
Emilio Lawrence is an attacker in Man City`s academy so must have some potential
Defenders - maybe Dane Murray, but agreed there aren`t many youngsters banging the door down
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 17 Nov 13:04
This is a wild and definitely rose tinted glasses suggestion, but watching the defensive shambles from Souttar and Hanley made me wonder if Chilokoa-Mullen might be a better option!
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Mon 17 Nov 13:21
If you spend too much time on social media (which let`s face it, you shouldn`t!) then you`d be forgiven for thinking there`s two schools of thought. Clarke is either (1) making the most of the tools at his disposal or (2) a chronic pragmatist who is wasting a golden generation.
The truth is, as always, somewhere in between. I like him and I`m hoping we start the match fult tilt with some big performances.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Mon 17 Nov 13:32
Do we have the players to compete with Spain/England/France. Clearly no. Do we have the players to compete with the 90% of European teams that aren`t at that level. Absolutely.
Greece showed that they are as bad at defending as we are yet we didn`t try in either game until it was, almost, too late.
Clarke totally summed up in his refusal to let Gordon go up for the last corner. If Greece scored again, didn`t matter. If Denmark scored again, we needed a point. it was our last chance and at that point in the proceedings we needed to chase another goal. But no, he doesnt like it
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 13:36
Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Nov 12:50
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 12:27
Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Nov 09:42
Clarke is as boring as they come, but he`s also been highly effective as manager.
The big plus for Scotland is we seem to have a pretty exciting crop of new young players coming through.
Jake, I promise I’m not having a go but I’ve read your post and I’m wracking my brains trying to think of the crop of young players you allude to. Doak aside I’m struggling to think of players with genuine international potential especially in central defence or goalkeeper positions.
I`m referring to our own players who should make their way through if they play their cards right. It`s positive that Clarke had them train with the seniors for experience. I`m not suggesting they`re ready to step up just yet though.
Sorry Jake that makes sense now and I 💯 agree with you. That said as Jeffery posted I had the conversation with a mate at the weekend regarding Chilokoa-Mullen and Grant Hanley, I know which one I’d prefer in my team!
Post Edited (Mon 17 Nov 13:37)
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 17 Nov 15:31
Ive always liked Hendry.
No Gilmour for tomorrow
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:16
Quote:
Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
I agree. I just wish Findlay and Halkett were both the right side of 30...
That said David Weir made his Scotland debut after 30 (I think), and he was a stalwart for a long time...
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:27
I mean, Hanley and Souttar are useless, but folk suggesting JCM need to give their heads a wobble. He was abysmal at the start of this season and is only just showing some glimmer of hope, in what is the 2nd tier of Scottish football.
Maybe in 5/6 years time he might make the cut, but we really need options now.
We have some good players in there, but they are aging and theres really not much coming through.
On Clarke - he talks about “negative nellies” in the support, but his play is so negative its no wonder theres dissent. Thing is, when we go for it, we prove we can match up against these teams, so its 100% down to him and his tactics.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:36
It sounds so easy. just `go for it` and things will be fine. We don`t have the players in the final third to maximise the benefit from that style of play which is why we have to adopt a more cautious approach.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:47
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wee eck, Mon 17 Nov 16:36
It sounds so easy. just `go for it` and things will be fine. We don`t have the players in the final third to maximise the benefit from that style of play which is why we have to adopt a more cautious approach.
We ditched the cautious approach and went for it 2nd half on Saturday . I don`t think it went too badly .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:51
Quote:
Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
Doubtless Chilokoa Mullen is nowhere near international level but if Hanley is the best centre half we have available then we are goosed. Even if he were to play tomorrow and have a blinder there is no way we can be taken seriously in World Cup finals with him in central defence.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 17 Nov 16:55
"We ditched the cautious approach and went for it 2nd half on Saturday . I don`t think it went too badly."
Depends if you want to turn a blind eye to the Greek 2nd goal or not.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 17 Nov 17:46
Let’s hope we don’t go out with a whimper like the last match of the euros.against Hungary ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Mon 17 Nov 17:47)
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 17 Nov 17:55
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WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 16:51
Quote:
Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
Doubtless Chilokoa Mullen is nowhere near international level but if Hanley is the best centre half we have available then we are goosed. Even if he were to play tomorrow and have a blinder there is no way we can be taken seriously in World Cup finals with him in central defence.
He maybe had a bad game on Saturday but overall he`s been decent for us and the 4 or 5 times I`ve seen Hibs this season he`s been more than solid too.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 18:22
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Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 17:55
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WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 16:51
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Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
Doubtless Chilokoa Mullen is nowhere near international level but if Hanley is the best centre half we have available then we are goosed. Even if he were to play tomorrow and have a blinder there is no way we can be taken seriously in World Cup finals with him in central defence.
He maybe had a bad game on Saturday but overall he`s been decent for us and the 4 or 5 times I`ve seen Hibs this season he`s been more than solid too.
Connor, I’m sorry but I’ve never seen him have a good game for Scotland there is always a mistake in him.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 17 Nov 19:09
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 17 Nov 17:46
Let’s hope we don’t go out with a whimper like the last match of the euros.against Hungary ?
Yeah we really need to give it our very best shot and if we fail it won’t be for the want of trying.
We still have the back up of a playoff as well but we don’t want to think about that.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 17 Nov 21:00
Hanley has 65 caps, across which time we`ve qualified for 2 major tournaments, lost in a playoff for a 3rd and are a game away from World Cup 2026. We also qualified for group A of the Nations League and drew 0-0 at Wembley.
To say he`s never had a good game for Scotland is clearly utterly ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 21:16
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DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 17 Nov 21:00
Hanley has 65 caps, across which time we`ve qualified for 2 major tournaments, lost in a playoff for a 3rd and are a game away from World Cup 2026. We also qualified for group A of the Nations League and drew 0-0 at Wembley.
To say he`s never had a good game for Scotland is clearly utterly ridiculous.
Isn’t google brilliant. 65 caps that’s truly incredible and to think Alan Hansen only got 26. The state of Scottish football 🤷♂️let’s hope he’s absolutely fantastic tomorrow night.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 17 Nov 21:29
In fairness to Hanley, I think most of his caps have been earned whilst playing English championship football or not a regular starter. It’s a big jump up to international level from that. All things considered, he’s done ok over the years.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 17 Nov 21:37
You wouldn`t be much of a Scotland fan if you needed Google for any of that - other than maybe the exact number of caps.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Mon 17 Nov 22:26
Grant Hanley`s clean sheets with Scotland include Croatia (twice), Denmark (twice), Poland, Austria, England, Portugal and Spain.
But yes, clearly never had anything approaching a good game for Scotland.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 17 Nov 22:29
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Rusty Shackleford, Mon 17 Nov 22:26
Grant Hanley`s clean sheets with Scotland include Croatia (twice), Denmark (twice), Poland, Austria, England, Portugal and Spain.
But yes, clearly never had anything approaching a good game for Scotland.
Let’s hope it’s Denmark thrice
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 18 Nov 00:39
He sometimes has ok games, but hes still very vulnerable to speedy skilled players. In an international team we dont need that, gets away with it in the league
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 18 Nov 02:27
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WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 18:22
Quote:
Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 17:55
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WarringtonPar, Mon 17 Nov 16:51
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Connor560, Mon 17 Nov 15:29
Chilokoa-Mullen isn`t anywhere near the level yet of Hanley or Souttar.
I`d much rather have Findlay and Halkett who play with each other week in week out and sitting at the top of the Premier league.
Doubtless Chilokoa Mullen is nowhere near international level but if Hanley is the best centre half we have available then we are goosed. Even if he were to play tomorrow and have a blinder there is no way we can be taken seriously in World Cup finals with him in central defence.
He maybe had a bad game on Saturday but overall he`s been decent for us and the 4 or 5 times I`ve seen Hibs this season he`s been more than solid too.
Connor, I’m sorry but I’ve never seen him have a good game for Scotland there is always a mistake in him.
This^^^^^
He’s a bit like Gary Caldwell if you don’t hear the commentator say his name then he’s playing a blinder but if you hear his name mentioned it more often than not means he’s having a nightmare
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 18 Nov 07:52
Quote:
thebear, Tue 18 Nov 00:39
He sometimes has ok games, but hes still very vulnerable to speedy skilled players. In an international team we dont need that, gets away with it in the league
All of our centre backs are vulnerable, hence why they play for Hibs, Zagreb, Al Ettifaq and The Rangers. Occasionally, they are going to struggle against forwards who play at a level or two above that.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 18 Nov 09:30
I wish Souttar`s brother had chosen Scotland
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Topic Originator: Sammy_Must_Die
Date: Tue 18 Nov 09:54
Quote:
Bandy, Tue 18 Nov 09:30
I wish Souttar`s brother had chosen Scotland
Soapy?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 18 Nov 12:01
Bring back Porteous..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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