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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Tue 7 Apr 21:58
This question is now near impossible to answer. The only way I think you could get close is to try and imagine who we’d struggle most with if they weren’t there. For me it’s either Fraser, Gilmour or Ngwenya. I genuinely can’t pick one. Andrew Tod’s first full season for us too. What a team we have now. Just imagine if we can keep them together.
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Topic Originator: ReturningParsFan
Date: Tue 7 Apr 22:09
Can`t argue with that threesome. Gilmour and Fraser must be our two best signings for many seasons, and Ngwenya has been a revelation since his `lazarus` return from the unwanted. Andrew Tod`s first season has been wonderful, and I have high hopes for Keith Bray. Think he might get a bit of a run in the team now.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Tue 7 Apr 22:11
Gilmour makes it look easy - so you miss what he does sometimes
Ngwenya hasn`t played enough games - but ***** on a bike - where was that player lurking before
Tod has peaked, dipped and coming onto form again and could be that 20 goals a season every club wants
Robbie Fraser- seamless - class in a glass - POTY
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Tue 7 Apr 22:24
Gilmour reminds me of Gary Mason. Nothing remarkable or fancy but if he wasn’t in the team you would absolutely know about it. Gets in amongst it and has that football intelligence that doesn’t always come naturally to players. A great signing.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 7 Apr 22:36
Gilmours pass out to Fraser for the 3rd was outstanding
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 7 Apr 23:00
Any one of Fraser, Gilmour, Ngwenya for me. Fraser is such a class player - pinpoint passes, takes the ball down straight away, I`m surprised The Rangers let him go, and surprised we got him .
Will probably be Tod, and I wouldn`t complain about that.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 8 Apr 07:38
Its a difficult choice this season. Thereare been a few players who deserve it.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 8 Apr 08:02
A few contenders, shows you the general improvement. Gilmour and Fraser shadr it for me for consistency but wouldn`t argue against the ither contenders, Ngwenya, what a turnaround!
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Wed 8 Apr 08:11
I think Fraser just shades it for me. Gilmour a close 2nd.
Tod young player of the year.
I also think Todd and Ngewnya have earned new contracts. Both have become vital for this team.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 8 Apr 08:23
Fraser is one of the most consistent players in that team. Pretty remarkable for a 22 year old. Baffling that he’s never played for Scotland at any youth levels. Further highlights what a complete dud Scott Gemmil is.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 8 Apr 09:02
Fraser for me not afraid to do the hard work wins most 50 50`s hardly wastes a pass .. great signing
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Wed 8 Apr 09:51
I`d give it to Ngwenya right now. He`s been a total revelation and seems to be getting better as the season goes on. He was a rock last night and the goals he`s scored have been really decisive.
BUT
JCM - He`s had blips, but he`s been so important all season. He`s able to adjust seamlessly from a back three to a back four and he`s now our most capped u21 player.
Abdulai - A couple of bad matches, but mostly majestic. What a find. Shame he was out for a while.
Fraser - I thought he dipped for a few games after the Hibs match (in which he was immense). He seems to be back on form. He`s good going forward, but I really like it when he digs in at the back and no one gets past him.
Gilmour - Class, but also happy to dig in when needed. He`s had such a consistent season.
Amade - Hasn`t played enough to be POTY this season, but what a player.
Andrew Tod - What a breakout season. He`s forced himself into the u21s. He`s forced NL to pick him almost every week. He`s been amazing and I think there`s more to come as he gets stronger and gains experience.
Matty Todd - He`s had almost as big a transformation as Ngwenya. There have been a few moments of total brilliance, but he`s probably too inconsistent to be a real contender this year.
So that`s more than half the team that are decent picks for POTY. That`s pretty remarkable in any season. NL and the coaches have to take a lot of credit, especially for the players that have turned things around.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 8 Apr 10:06
Quote:
BlackLight, Wed 8 Apr 09:51
I`d give it to Ngwenya right now. He`s been a total revelation and seems to be getting better as the season goes on. He was a rock last night and the goals he`s scored have been really decisive.
BUT
JCM - He`s had blips, but he`s been so important all season. He`s able to adjust seamlessly from a back three to a back four and he`s now our most capped u21 player.
Abdulai - A couple of bad matches, but mostly majestic. What a find. Shame he was out for a while.
Fraser - I thought he dipped for a few games after the Hibs match (in which he was immense). He seems to be back on form. He`s good going forward, but I really like it when he digs in at the back and no one gets past him.
Gilmour - Class, but also happy to dig in when needed. He`s had such a consistent season.
Amade - Hasn`t played enough to be POTY this season, but what a player.
Andrew Tod - What a breakout season. He`s forced himself into the u21s. He`s forced NL to pick him almost every week. He`s been amazing and I think there`s more to come as he gets stronger and gains experience.
Matty Todd - He`s had almost as big a transformation as Ngwenya. There have been a few moments of total brilliance, but he`s probably too inconsistent to be a real contender this year.
So that`s more than half the team that are decent picks for POTY. That`s pretty remarkable in any season. NL and the coaches have to take a lot of credit, especially for the players that have turned things around.
I think thats a fair assessment. For me probably Robbie Fraser edges it given he has played most of the season.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 8 Apr 10:44
Yeah I think there has been some great performers this season but I think for consistency I’d be looking at Gilmour or Frazer
COYP
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 8 Apr 10:57
Gilmour first half of season and Fraser been the standout for the second half so far.
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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Wed 8 Apr 11:02
POTY - Fraser
YPOTY - Abdulai
GOTS - Todd v Aberdeen
Could easily have given it to anyone in all three categories.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 8 Apr 12:58
Gilmour, Fraser and Tod have probably contributed the most across the entire season.
Agree with other names mentioned but they didn`t feature so much in the early parts of the season.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 8 Apr 14:15
POTY - Charlie Gilmour
YPOTY - Andy Tod
GOTS - John Tod v Airdrie
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Apr 14:36
You can end up with egg on your face making these nominations before the season end, especially with so much still to play for in the Cup and the League.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 8 Apr 15:23
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 8 Apr 14:36
You can end up with egg on your face making these nominations before the season end, especially with so much still to play for in the Cup and the League.
Maybe so but given it’s the club that put this out on Friday for our nominations it is worth discussing.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Apr 15:45
Discuss it all you like but you wouldn`t name the winner of a mile race after three laps. It seems to be the norm amongst clubs but aren`t some of the national awards announced at the end of the season?
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 8 Apr 15:46
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 8 Apr 15:45
Discuss it all you like but you wouldn`t name the winner of a mile race after three laps. It seems to be the norm amongst clubs but aren`t some of the national awards announced at the end of the season?
Ffs the club has asked for us to vote now so it’s being discussed. Is there anything you won’t argue about?
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Apr 15:51
I didn`t say it shouldn`t be discussed. I simply pointed out it seems a wee bit premature especially this season. Am I not allowed to express an opinion?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 8 Apr 16:24
I tend to agree. There are three or even four candidates who will be poty. However there is a lot of football still to be played and some very important and some season defining ones too..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 8 Apr 16:31
If Andrew`s injury ain`t to bad and he can score a few more then he`ll win it for sure. Players that bang in goals win prizes, the rest are unsung heroes.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 8 Apr 17:04
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 8 Apr 15:45
Discuss it all you like but you wouldn`t name the winner of a mile race after three laps. It seems to be the norm amongst clubs but aren`t some of the national awards announced at the end of the season?
Honestly just shut up at this point, the club put it out, take the fact they didn`t run it by you first to them.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Apr 17:15
If you could translate your comment into proper English it would help. So many folk on here just can`t handle others expressing a different view from them.
Who are you to tell posters to shut up? The forum actually benefits from people having different opinions. More traffic means more advertising income and I think some of that goes to the club.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 8 Apr 17:16
Obviously a crazy take, but discussing the POTY because the club have put it out there and the opinion that it is a bit early given the runway left this season are both valid.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 8 Apr 17:41
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 8 Apr 17:16
Obviously a crazy take, but discussing the POTY because the club have put it out there and the opinion that it is a bit early given the runway left this season are both valid.
I honestly can`t believe that you would come on here with your common sense comments and expect to be taken seriously. Be off with you, they are obviously both in the wrong
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Wed 8 Apr 18:42
Fraser for me, pure class as others have said above. So many other close runners-up though!
This is my signature
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Topic Originator: Vamos Pars
Date: Wed 8 Apr 22:33
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 8 Apr 15:45
Discuss it all you like but you wouldn`t name the winner of a mile race after three laps. It seems to be the norm amongst clubs but aren`t some of the national awards announced at the end of the season?
We’ve played 31 out of 36 league games surely that’s a large enough sample size? Seems unfair to criticise the club on this one.
Gilmour was my pick closely followed by Fraser.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 8 Apr 22:47
PFA awards are 2 weeks before the end of the season , and the votes 2-4 weeks before that .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 Apr 23:24
There`s a practical reason why clubs organise these nominations before the end of the season. The players will disappear after the last game and some of them won`t return.
For the last time, I wasn`t criticising anyone. I was simply making the point that it can sometimes be premature to make these judgements before the season ends, especially when there is still a lot to play for. Somebody could do something that makes him a legend for life and miss out on the POTY award!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 9 Apr 08:07
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 8 Apr 23:24
There`s a practical reason why clubs organise these nominations before the end of the season. The players will disappear after the last game and some of them won`t return.
For the last time, I wasn`t criticising anyone. I was simply making the point that it can sometimes be premature to make these judgements before the season ends, especially when there is still a lot to play for. Somebody could do something that makes him a legend for life and miss out on the POTY award!
You actually said it though, it`s "player of the year" not "player of the big game".
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Thu 9 Apr 08:35
Yeah take someone like a Keith Bray for example if he now goes on and scores a hat trick in the semi final wins us all the play off matches with last minute goals then scores a hat trick in the final your still not going to give him POTY. The good thing about doing it the now is you get to look at the full season not at the end when your only focused on what happened at the end. Like when goal of the year was shown I was shocked John Tod’s goal was still in this season felt about last season because of the amount of games we’ve played since then.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 9 Apr 09:03
Stunned that a harmless throwaway remark is completely misinterpreted and the poster is pounced upon because of who he is rather than what he said.
No wonder I hardly ever post on here. It`s poisonous at times.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Thu 09 Apr 09:04)
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 9 Apr 09:20
Fraser just shades it for me with Gilmour/Todd not far behind.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Thu 9 Apr 11:52
Also just to add the difference is that this is player of the year so technically runs from when it was last announced so how ever many games before the end of the season to this moment. If it was player of the season then yes it would be too early to run it for the season
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:10
Gilmour and Tod Got my vote.
The brilliant thing is the young player of the year has Tod, Abdulai, Mullen, Ngwenya, Fraser, Bray, Turley.. all starting every week (minus bray). We’ve built a great young squad who are only going to be better next year, if we can hang onto them.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:26
Just wanted to share my thoughts on fraser
When we signed edwards he was signed to develop and sell for good profit, when he signed he was raw and had a lot of learning to do, now sadly he got a bad injury and has been kept out of action at charlton, however he wouldve 100% started most games, showcasing his abilty at a higher level
With fraser he has been signed yet again to develop, however he has a much higher ceiling and he has came to us more developed than edwards was
I think fraser can go even further than edwards has and i hope he does as he is a fantastic wee player
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:41
Quote:
shellypar, Thu 9 Apr 15:26
Just wanted to share my thoughts on fraser
When we signed edwards he was signed to develop and sell for good profit, when he signed he was raw and had a lot of learning to do, now sadly he got a bad injury and has been kept out of action at charlton, however he wouldve 100% started most games, showcasing his abilty at a higher level
With fraser he has been signed yet again to develop, however he has a much higher ceiling and he has came to us more developed than edwards was
I think fraser can go even further than edwards has and i hope he does as he is a fantastic wee player
I think Robbie has come on leaps and bounds and has attained a very high level of consistency. I agree that he will be playing at a higher level in the next few years.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Thu 09 Apr 17:53)
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sun 26 Apr 16:38
Players player of the year - Gilmour
Player of the year - Mullen
Young player of the year - fraser
Centenary club player of the year - fraser
Goal of the season - j tod
Post Edited (Sun 26 Apr 17:07)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 26 Apr 16:50
All worthy winners 🏆
Gilmour picked up the same award he won at ICT last season.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 26 Apr 17:33
To be fair i think Fraser was a step back for two steps forward in his career type of thing with the grounding and pedigree he had coming through at Rangers.
Also heard we offered better terms than one or two SPL teams who were in for him so he wasn`t as out of nowhere as Edwards was at the time he joined.
He`s been absolutely brilliant for us though and offers much more going forward than Edwardz ever did. The 1st touch and technique he possesses in taking long cross field passes under control is sublime.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 26 Apr 17:40
Really enjoyed today. A great format. All deserved winners . Really upbeat/positive vibe 🏁🏁
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:17
Really good speach from Lennon and Bord
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:33
It may deserve it`s own thread but thought Bord was extremely positive as well as emotional.
He took time to acknowledge Lennon and said `I would go to war with you anytime my friend`. He has his back and Lennon acknowledged it.
On Bene, that he was a true leader on and off the park who backs his teammates. Without saying it there was an inference to the widely publicised court case.
He spoke about Hammy in a similar way, about how good he is.
Tash about that winning penalty got a mention too.
He really does seem to be heavily invested and not just financially.
Bord said that, clearly, he is involved with other clubs but that the Pars are the team that has got under his skin.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:48
Hopefully it`s been recorded for ones who couldn`t make the event.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:54
Really enjoyable afternoon.
Great to see several players being rewarded & a sign that we have a good squad that it wasn`t just 1 guy sweeping the board.
Very impressed with Robbie Fraser both today & at the recent sponsors event - that boy has a football brain & is mature beyond his years 👏🏼👏🏼
First time I have heard James Bord talk about us and I actually felt emotional as he was talking. From not really knowing why someone like him would take over a club like ours, I now totally trust him & Lenny to take us forward.
We have some fantastic people involved & these lads can only get better.
Brilliant to see Shaggy Jenkins & Scott Wilson inducted into the Hall of Fame & there`s no way they could have an event like that & not honour Mo Hutton.
It`s finally good to be a Par once more - onwards & upwards 🏁👏🏼😎👍🏼
COME ON YE PARS!
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