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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 23 May 18:41
Watching NL`s post match interview on YT he`s confirming major rebuild for next season, as expected.
Offered players contracts but they`ve stalled so he`s expecting them to leave. Guess that`s JCM & KN. Plus??
"A lot of players given free transfers before the final".
Exciting times post-season / pre-season speculating about the incoming players.
Thanks & good luck to all those leaving. Been a more exciting & successful season than I was anticipating at the start.
COYP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQSFFW7m5hY
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 23 May 18:52
Yep major shake up over the summer. Several players told they can leave on a free. Sounds like Matty Tod,Ngewnga and Mullen have rejected new contracts and are all away. Those 3 will be massively missed but we have to move forward.
Post Edited (Sat 23 May 18:53)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 23 May 18:55
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Sat 23 May 18:52
Yep major shake up over the summer. Several players told they can leave on a free. Sounds like Matty Tod,Ngewnga and Mullen have rejected new contracts and are all away. Those 3 will be massively missed but we have to move forward.
Wont be missed if we bringbin better players
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 23 May 18:55
Regardless of today’s result. It’s been a very good season.
See you all for the July friendlys!
You’ve seen the Pars now please go home!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 May 20:15
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Sat 23 May 18:52
Yep major shake up over the summer. Several players told they can leave on a free. Sounds like Matty Tod,Ngewnga and Mullen have rejected new contracts and are all away. Those 3 will be massively missed but we have to move forward.
Not sure there will be many takers for Matty Todd, but the other two will be wanted.
Id also imagine they are the only 3 offered new deals, wouldn’t particularly miss the rest (no offence)
Need to keep Lennon though…..
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 23 May 20:18
Matty Todd will have many teams looking at him, can`t understand why anyone would think otherwise!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 May 20:40
We need better quality than Matty Todd so not too fussed to be honest.
Mullen is replaceable, Ngwenya is the one I’m a little disappointed in as he looks a baller these days at the back but if he doesn’t want to stick around so be it.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 May 20:47
Don’t think Tash did himself any favours today either although Lennon seems to love him.
In 18months he’s had what a couple of good halfs?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 23 May 20:54
Quote:
Berry, Sat 23 May 20:40
We need better quality than Matty Todd so not too fussed to be honest.
Mullen is replaceable, Ngwenya is the one I’m a little disappointed in as he looks a baller these days at the back but if he doesn’t want to stick around so be it.
Ngwenya my mom today and has hardly put a foot wrong for months. He`ll be missed...
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sat 23 May 20:56
Bene, Hosler, Otoo, Fisher & Mehmet will be away 100%
I think Hamilton & TOB are likely to be away
And it sounds like Mullen & Ngwenya are looking at their options. It will probably be tough to get Ox back.
Anyone else I`m forgetting?
Surely Matty will be here next year? He`s been everywhere for us this season & is pars daft.
Post Edited (Sat 23 May 20:59)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 23 May 21:02
^^ Sam Young, Alistair Davidson has a years option.
17 players under contract for next season or beyond although a few of them will go out on loan.
lots of work to do, need to get bigger, stronger, quicker all over the park
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 23 May 21:06
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 May 20:47
Don’t think Tash did himself any favours today either although Lennon seems to love him.
In 18months he’s had what a couple of good halfs?
He shouldn`t be having half`s before a big match.
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Topic Originator: Par-timer
Date: Sat 23 May 21:12
I hope that Hammy gets a new contract offer, a Pars man who always gives 100%. He’s a natural leader and might even be a good choice as club captain to replace Bene. Whilst he often picks up a needless booking and can get bypassed by fast pass-and-move opposition teams, he’s great to bring on for the last twenty minutes to shore up a narrow home win or spice things up a bit on one of our more powderpuff days. He’s like Ryan Yates at Nottingham Forest for me, not good enough to be a regular starter but a real part of the heart and soul of the club, and it’s not clear who will play that role if he goes.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 May 21:22
Quote:
DBA, Sat 23 May 20:18
Matty Todd will have many teams looking at him, can`t understand why anyone would think otherwise!
I’m not so sure.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 May 21:43
Matty Todd will have plenty interest.
JCM - will go
Ngwenya - will go
Tash - let go?
Todd - might go, would keep
Hamilton - I`d give him another year
Otoo - let go?
Thomas - will go
Oxborough - will go, but would sign
Mehmet - let go?
Carey - already gone?
Bene - tough one. Another year?
Turley - will go
McLeod - try to keep
KRH - already gone?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 23 May 21:57
Quote:
jake89, Sat 23 May 21:43
Matty Todd will have plenty interest.
JCM - will go
Ngwenya - will go
Tash - let go?
Todd - might go, would keep
Hamilton - I`d give him another year
Otoo - let go?
Thomas - will go
Oxborough - will go, but would sign
Mehmet - let go?
Carey - already gone?
Bene - tough one. Another year?
Turley - will go
McLeod - try to keep
KRH - already gone?
I think today proved that those who are looking to step up to a higher division will have to make the step change in improvement. Some need another year in my view. Remember what happened to Faz.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Sat 23 May 22:23)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 May 22:03
Quote:
jake89, Sat 23 May 21:43
Matty Todd will have plenty interest.
JCM - will go
Ngwenya - will go
Tash - let go?
Todd - might go, would keep
Hamilton - I`d give him another year
Otoo - let go?
Thomas - will go
Oxborough - will go, but would sign
Mehmet - let go?
Carey - already gone?
Bene - tough one. Another year?
Turley - will go
McLeod - try to keep
KRH - already gone?
From that list - I’d only really want to keep Ox, Ngwenya and JCM, latter two pretty much going.
It was nice to see both Carey and Thomas at the game today.
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sat 23 May 22:18
Exciting times ahead for our club. I’m confident we will improve greatly to what we currently have.
It’s a good time to be a pars fan!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 23 May 22:25
Matty Todd and Hamilton leaving would be a major own goal as we are still in the championship
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 23 May 22:27
Hopefully the rebuild starts with Lennon out
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 May 22:38
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 23 May 22:25
Matty Todd and Hamilton leaving would be a major own goal as we are still in the championship
We want to be in the Premier League, we need better than Todd and Hamilton.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 23 May 22:45
Quote:
Berry, Sat 23 May 22:38
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 23 May 22:25
Matty Todd and Hamilton leaving would be a major own goal as we are still in the championship
We want to be in the Premier League, we need better than Todd and Hamilton.
We need to get there first. Matty Todd has been brilliant in the second half of the season and Hamilton has clearly shown how to boss a midfield in many games we have needed him to.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: JohnnyLatics
Date: Sat 23 May 22:53
Rule #1. Get rid of deadwood.
Rule #2. Tell the out of contact players you want to stay to sign on now or go. Show commitment ASAP. "Want to see my options" means not committing to the cause.
Rule #3. Tie up those up to the challenge and want to stay long term. If they`re good enough, they`ll have resale value in the long term.
Rule #4. Sign players better than you let go. No compromise.
I blame Andy Rhodes for this!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 May 22:54
Thomas and Turley are loanees so their clubs will.decide their future, not us.
Matty Todd is in the top 10 for `assists` in the Championship. If we don`t want him I would have thought plenty others would.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 May 23:04
I just think we need to set the standards higher.
Hamilton barely getting a game, fine if he wants to be on the bench again next season but don’t think he’ll want that.
Todd is a good player, but I just think we need more.
Same for the two Tod brothers, bags of potential but they aren’t to going to be relied upon in the starting lineup every week next season.
At the end of the day we finished 4th in the Championship and some distance from first.
We’ve made fantastic progress from where we were, but need to be mindful of the blinkers, there’s a lot still to do - and I think Lennon is the right man for the job.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 May 23:14
Like a lot of folk on here you seem to exclude the possibility that young players will improve. It does my head in.Some of them are under contract so are unlikely to be going anywhere unless some other club thinks they have potential.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 May 23:21
Matty Todd is used to being written off by the .net experts.
It`ll be a sad day if he`s let go.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 May 23:22
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 23 May 23:14
Like a lot of folk on here you seem to exclude the possibility that young players will improve. It does my head in.Some of them are under contract so are unlikely to be going anywhere unless some other club thinks they have potential.
I’m not excluding the possibility, of course they’ll improve, that doesn’t necessarily mean we don’t still need better though.
Andy Tod has great promise, I’d argue he’s been burnt out this season for the amount of games he’s had to play.
If we are to mount a serious challenge for the title next season, we need more quality and experience.
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Topic Originator: Kintos
Date: Sat 23 May 23:47
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 23 May 22:45
Quote:
Berry, Sat 23 May 22:38
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 23 May 22:25
Matty Todd and Hamilton leaving would be a major own goal as we are still in the championship
We want to be in the Premier League, we need better than Todd and Hamilton.
We need to get there first. Matty Todd has been brilliant in the second half of the season and Hamilton has clearly shown how to boss a midfield in many games we have needed him to.
Absolutely spot on. The argument they aren’t good enough for the Premiership is mute. They are however, especially in Matty’s context, good enough to get us promoted. Matty has been immense 2nd half of the season which has led us to nearly getting promoted. If he continues in that vane along with squad strengthening, we’ll be up there for winning the league. Hammy although a bit part this season, has on average performance, been excellent.
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Topic Originator: calum96
Date: Sat 23 May 23:53
Berry, while I respect your opinion on Matty Todd I have to disagree. He will be a massive miss, I genuinely think he’s been our best player since the turn of the year and if he could keep it up into next season it would be stupid to let him go.
Yes we need more quality, but that doesn’t mean he should be out the door
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 24 May 00:02
Quote:
calum96, Sat 23 May 23:53
Berry, while I respect your opinion on Matty Todd I have to disagree. He will be a massive miss, I genuinely think he’s been our best player since the turn of the year and if he could keep it up into next season it would be stupid to let him go.
Yes we need more quality, but that doesn’t mean he should be out the door
I’d rather have him in my squad than not, apologies if that’s not clear as he does have potential, but if it’s true that he’s not staying on, I’m not convinced it’s as big a miss as others.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 May 00:05
Suppose, as ever, the proof will be if we recruit better players than those we let go.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 24 May 00:27
Today really shows are certain individuals ready to take a step up? JCM n Ngwenya springs to mind..if they think they can better themselves elsewhere then so be it..along with Matty, all will have been offered contracts I would think..but if they think it’s time to move on then so be it. They are more than replaceable..
There’s no chance them three will be “let go” .. I’m confident contracts will be on the table for them, whether they want to sign is a different matter.
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 00:29)
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sun 24 May 00:28
I`m having to put a rein on my thinking regarding a rebuild. The aim next season is not to build a team capable of doing well in the SPL, it`s to build a team that can win the Championship. Therefore, Celtic are not the model - St Johnstone and Falkirk as championship winners the last two seasons could be more of a guide.
I hope we`ll get players with more experience for a start. And I hope that, after our successful season, we`ll be offering wages that are comparable at least to those of Falkirk and Saints while they were topping our league. I think wages must be the biggest factor in getting the players we want. Facilities, support, potential of the club, who the manager is etc. might be part of the equation to tempt a player who is satisfied first of all with the wage and bonuses we offer.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 24 May 06:26
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 May 23:21
Matty Todd is used to being written off by the .net experts.
It`ll be a sad day if he`s let go.
Whilst it’s the norm on here to point fingers at fellow posters, it’s worth remembering that Matty didn’t start a Championship game until game 11 was omitted from 3 matchday squads and played a total of 19 minutes in the first 7 games so like a few who came good the manager didn’t fancy him either.
At 24 he’s definitely for keeping, he offers versatility, energy and commitment, but players have to look after themselves as careers are short and if he’s got offers good luck to him, he’ll be hard to replace like for like.
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 06:27)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 24 May 07:43
This is obviously the agents getting involved.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 24 May 08:08
Quote:
onandupthepars, Sun 24 May 00:28
I`m having to put a rein on my thinking regarding a rebuild. The aim next season is not to build a team capable of doing well in the SPL, it`s to build a team that can win the Championship. Therefore, Celtic are not the model - St Johnstone and Falkirk as championship winners the last two seasons could be more of a guide.
I hope we`ll get players with more experience for a start. And I hope that, after our successful season, we`ll be offering wages that are comparable at least to those of Falkirk and Saints while they were topping our league. I think wages must be the biggest factor in getting the players we want. Facilities, support, potential of the club, who the manager is etc. might be part of the equation to tempt a player who is satisfied first of all with the wage and bonuses we offer.
The aim is to build a team that can surely do both?
You don’t want to get promoted then have a big rebuild to do if you can avoid it.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 24 May 08:26
Yeah for me it`s aim to keep Ngwenya, JCM and Todd. As it stands it looks like possibly all will go, we`ll perhaps hear the retained list on Monday?
I think if we want to kick on Lennon has to be ruthless in releasing pretty much the rest of the out of contract players and look to bring in improvements;
Hammy - love him to bits and his intensity but technically on the ball the drop off from Amade and Gilmour is too steep.
Tash, Bene, Otoo, KRH, Fisher, Mehmet all have had contributions but it`s time to move on from them.
Loan players will depart, Oxborough I would be happy to bring back but that will include a fee.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sun 24 May 09:01
Can’t criticise Matty at all, often plays 3 different positions in each game and is good with both feet. Would be a big loss imo.
Hopefully someone comes in with an offer for A.Tod. Got to take anything we can get for him while we can. Cya.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sun 24 May 09:09
If we had the choice I’d keep Ngwenya over Mullen any day. He absolutely strolls it at centre half. Would like to see Matty Todd stay, Lennon made a point at the POTY awards about needing Dunfermline boys in the dressing room and back room staff. Pretty obvious the majority will go though. Bene, Mehmet, fisher, KRH, Oakley Booth & Mullen.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sun 24 May 09:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 May 23:21
Matty Todd is used to being written off by the .net experts.
It`ll be a sad day if he`s let go.
I had heard he has been encouraged to `spread his wings` in that if he doesn`t try something else i.e. down south he may never get the opportunity again.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 24 May 09:28
Wining the league must be the target next season, so need to build a squad that can do that, we are not far away.
It will be disappointing if we lose some of our good players, but that is the model we are operating, but need to get quality brought in to replace them.
A key component is keeping Neil Lennon.
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Topic Originator: preston par
Date: Sun 24 May 09:52
Matty Todd has done enough to be given another year but if he`s had any offers from down south, he would be silly not to take it.
No time for sentiment for boys like Hammy and Bene. Been good for the club but had their time.
Can`t see us keeping JCM or KN due to wages. Will be nice to free up some wages with Mehmet, KRH etc.
Need to look for a first-choice keeper, another centre back as an absolute starting point.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sun 24 May 09:59
Hamilton will be away. He wasn`t brought on yesterday, for me that speaks volumes.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 09:59)
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 24 May 10:13
Difficult balance here, not mentioning names bt3 or 4 must go, and are not trying to premier league, but how long do you issue contracts for if we win the league, we need players who are good enough not lose one still under contract
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 24 May 10:57
"Wining the league must be the target next season, so need to build a squad that can do that, we are not far away."
i think we are quite a bit away unless its almost a perfect summer, id say its at least 10 signings needed that tick most if not all the boxes and that will be incredibly tough. only be a couple of weeks from the start of preseason so its a quick turnaround too.
"He absolutely strolls it at centre half"
he might get there but Ngwenya has a long long way to go before that.
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 11:10)
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 24 May 12:26
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Sun 24 May 09:59
Hamilton will be away. He wasn`t brought on yesterday, for me that speaks volumes.
He can be a walking yellow card, we all know that. But when you consider what he can and does bring to the team its baffling that seems to be behind certain others.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 24 May 13:25
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 May 23:21
Matty Todd is used to being written off by the .net experts.
It`ll be a sad day if he`s let go.
This.
He`s been excellent recently,what do folks want min.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sun 24 May 14:03
If none of the out of contract player sign we could still have a team of:
Terrell
Kearney Abduklai J Tod Fraser
Amade. Gilmour
Morrison. Tod Cooper
Kane/Rudden
For me that’s a pretty decent starting base. Obvious areas we need to strengthen but don’t feel we have too much dead weight in the squad. Summer recruitment is key, and hopefully the money from cup run will enable us to get a bit of quality in the door.
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 14:07)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Sun 24 May 14:10
I’d agree that Ngwenya strolls it at CB. Comfortably one of the better defenders I’ve seen for a few years. Which is mad as I thought he was one of the worst full backs!
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sun 24 May 14:13
If we were able to choose one of the players out of contract to sign a new contract it for me it would be Ngenwa.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 24 May 14:41
Our contract list :
Oxborough (Loan) 2026
Mehmet 2026
Hoggan 2026
Turley (Loan) 2026
Fisher 2026
Benedictus 2026
Chilokoa-Mullen 2026
Davidson 2026
S Young 2026
Ngwenya 2026
Hamilton 2026
Oakley-Boothe 2026
Carey (Loan) 2026
Otoo 2026
E McLeod 2026
Beveridge 2026
Todd 2026
Ritchie-Hosler 2026
Thomas (Loan) 2026
Margetts 2027
J Tod 2027
Fraser 2027
Cameron 2027
Amade 2027
Dobbie 2027
Kane 2027
A Tod 2027
R McLeod 2027
C Young 2027
Rudden 2027
Morrison 2027
Terrell 2028
Abdulai 2028
Kearney 2028
Rowe 2028
Gilmour 2028
Fyfe 2028
Cooper 2028
Sutherland 2028
Bray 2029
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 24 May 15:28
Andy Tod has a contract to 2028 with the club having another year as an option too 🙂
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sun 24 May 15:39
Glad it’s the last we’ll hear of Mr Oakley-Boothe. Total empty jersey the entire time hes been here.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 May 15:52
Good of him to score the crucial penalty in the SF shoot-out though. In a squad game everyone has something to contribute.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sun 24 May 15:59
Quote:
PARadise, Sun 24 May 15:39
Glad it’s the last we’ll hear of Mr Oakley-Boothe. Total empty jersey the entire time hes been here.
Agreed. Watching him sulking and walking around instead of trying to win the ball back in the first half was so frustrating. Just doesn’t have the correct attitude for me. Will never forget that penalty though.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 24 May 15:59
Mehmet 2026 - Release
Hoggan 2026 - Release
Fisher 2026 - Release
Benedictus 2026 - Release
Davidson 2026 - Release
Hamilton 2026 - Release
Oakley-Boothe 2026 - Release
Otoo 2026 - Release
Ritchie-Hosler 2026 - Release
Chilokoa-Mullen 2026 - He’ll be away.
Ngwenya2026 - He’ll be away.
Todd 2026 - He’ll be away.
Bring in.
New Keeper or 2
2 centre half’s
2 midfielder
2 strikers.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sun 24 May 16:09
I`m not sure we`ll be bringing in more than 1 up front, we already have Kane, Rudden, A Tod, Morrison & Cooper competing for 3 places, then there`s McLeod and Bray that will be hoping for minutes too
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sun 24 May 16:10
We do need cover at both full back positions though, especially if we lose Matty
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 24 May 16:33
I imagine we will bring in 3 of 4 as replacements for those who leave, perhaps with a loan or two.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 24 May 16:40
Given we’ll play a mix of 352 and 442 we’ll need more than Kane and rudden for strikers. In a 352 again we’ll still need that quality attacking midfielder we tried to get last year and he’ll fight it out with tod and cooper for a role depending on how we set up. We’ll also need a right winger as we’ve been playing Todd out there.
The most worrying thing was the drop off from the first 11 this season, key will be bringing in better so we don’t worry so much should Gilmour or Kane be injured.
Kearney looked real good towards the end of the season, fancy he’ll really come on next season and with Fraser on the other side it’s pretty positive.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sun 24 May 16:46
Olly Thomas hinting in instagram about returning..
“Still working… we back soon” 🧑🍳
With pars support in the background.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 24 May 16:49
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Sun 24 May 15:59
Quote:
PARadise, Sun 24 May 15:39
Glad it’s the last we’ll hear of Mr Oakley-Boothe. Total empty jersey the entire time hes been here.
Agreed. Watching him sulking and walking around instead of trying to win the ball back in the first half was so frustrating. Just doesn’t have the correct attitude for me. Will never forget that penalty though.
Yes noted TOB was walking around alot. Contrast that with the Celtic midfield and forward line. They had a lot of movement and worked hard for each other. You need both the right attitude and hard work, especially in a cup final.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 24 May 16:53
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 24 May 15:59
Mehmet 2026 - Release
Hoggan 2026 - Release
Fisher 2026 - Release
Benedictus 2026 - Release
Davidson 2026 - Release
Hamilton 2026 - Release
Oakley-Boothe 2026 - Release
Otoo 2026 - Release
Ritchie-Hosler 2026 - Release
Chilokoa-Mullen 2026 - He’ll be away.
Ngwenya2026 - He’ll be away.
Todd 2026 - He’ll be away.
Bring in.
New Keeper or 2
2 centre half’s
2 midfielder
2 strikers.
Not sure your maths stacks up? 12 away and 7/8 in
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 16:54)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 May 16:56
I`d like Freddie Turley back on loan if that were possible. He had the right combination of strength and skill for the Championship and could cover a few positions.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 24 May 16:58
Quote:
Geordiepar, Sun 24 May 14:03
If none of the out of contract player sign we could still have a team of:
Terrell
Kearney Abduklai J Tod Fraser
Amade. Gilmour
Morrison. Tod Cooper
Kane/Rudden
For me that’s a pretty decent starting base. Obvious areas we need to strengthen but don’t feel we have too much dead weight in the squad. Summer recruitment is key, and hopefully the money from cup run will enable us to get a bit of quality in the door.
As you say, a decent base. Probably need 10/12 new players. That’s a lot of work to do. Hopefully, we can get a good percentage of our top targets ? The cup run, play-offs and Lennon should mean that’s highly possible ? Players will want to come.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sun 24 May 17:18
I agree about Turley wee eck. Looked a very good player.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 24 May 17:23
Well, we`re most attractive prospect we`ve been in years so that has to count for something.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 24 May 17:24
Thomas would be a great loan if it happened again
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 24 May 17:26
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sun 24 May 17:24
Thomas would be a great loan if it happened again
Saw him chatting to some of the reserves at HT yesterday. Was good that he was there.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 24 May 18:18
Mehmet
Benedictus
Hamilton
Oakley-Boothe
Chilokoa-Mullen
Ngwenya
Todd
My maths is fine.
These are the only players in and around the first team who’ll need replaced.
The rest have been out on loan or aren’t in the picture.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sun 24 May 18:30
Honestly think some people are underestimating Matty Todd in here, he has probably the best touch in the team, great technique, reads the game well and is an absolute workhorse. Plays about 5 different positions, sometimes in the space of 90 mins, set piece taker, gets assists, great level of fitness, 24 years old with his best years ahead of him...
I think if he had been some unknown that we signed in the summer then people would be on here screaming for us to get him signed up long term after the season he`s just had. Because he`s a local lad that has been with us for a while people seem to think, "eh, we can find someone else better"
Post Edited (Sun 24 May 18:34)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 24 May 18:35
There’s no doubting Todd’s ability BUT if he’s choosing to not sign a new contract what else can the club do?
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sun 24 May 18:39
I`m not arguing with that, I`m talking about the people in here that are saying he`s not good enough
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 24 May 18:43
We have the core of a good team for next season. Matty Todd was given a year and within that year he has proved himself overall. I suppose it will all be down to contract negotiations with the agents. If he is getting a better offer elsewhere and its a move he tginks is hood for him, you can`t blame him. For the club getting players in sooner rather than later is key in my view so you set your stall out at the start of the season and build from there. Start how you mean to go on.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 24 May 18:44
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 24 May 18:18
Mehmet
Benedictus
Hamilton
Oakley-Boothe
Chilokoa-Mullen
Ngwenya
Todd
My maths is fine.
These are the only players in and around the first team who’ll need replaced.
The rest have been out on loan or aren’t in the picture.
You can’t go into a season with less than 20 players. You’ll struggle to fill a bench with a few injuries and suspension
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sun 24 May 19:52
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 24 May 15:59
Mehmet 2026 - Release
Hoggan 2026 - Release
Fisher 2026 - Release
Benedictus 2026 - Release
Davidson 2026 - Release
Hamilton 2026 - Release
Oakley-Boothe 2026 - Release
Otoo 2026 - Release
Ritchie-Hosler 2026 - Release
Chilokoa-Mullen 2026 - He’ll be away.
Ngwenya2026 - He’ll be away.
Todd 2026 - He’ll be away.
Bring in.
New Keeper or 2
2 centre half’s
2 midfielder
2 strikers.
Disagree on a few of those
Hamilton - keep, many is the time we need him in the middle
Bene - back to fitness and a full pre-season? Good for another year
Todd - hope he stays, important player
Fisher - had a good season with stenny, coming onto a good player for our level
Hogan - young local lad
Davidson - another young Pars fan being brought on via loans
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Sun 24 May 21:59
Outside of JCM, Ngwenya & Todd I wouldn’t be looking to keep any of the other out of contract players who were first teamers. Likes of Davidson and younger lads, give them deals again and see how they progress on loan.
Bene has been a good servant but it’s time to move on. Hamilton likewise. Need more than just being a Pars fan. Sure he offers versatility but a top end championship footballer he is not - as much as it pains me as if he had half the technical ability as he does heart, he’d be amazing (and probably not with us).
Signing Ox permanently is no. 1 wish for me for the Summer. It’s taken us years to actually find a good goalie again. Why mess around. Get it done.
Defensively is where we’ll probably see most change due to out of contracts. Could be looking at 3 centre half’s at least needed plus need depth at left wing back and maybe even right if Matty does go.
Midfield we’ve got some work to do outside of Gilmour & Amade. A player or two like them in and we’ll be laughing!
As for upfront. would expect Sutherland and Fyfe to be loaned out again and suppose it’s up to Connor Young to determine whether we will or won’t need another frontman but Olly Thomas may not be a bad idea if we can loan again.
I’m more than certain we’ll have a gem or two up our sleeves à la Abdulai.
Bring it on. Pars are back.
Pars are back.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sun 24 May 22:56
I was watching the final day English Premiership coverage today. Sunderland had two goal scorers that came up from League 1. They`re now in Europe.
It`s a team sport and a squad sport. There`s value in players that love the club. it was Matty Todd`s blocked shot that lead to Josh Cooper`s goal yesterday.
Matty Todd is irritatingly inconsistent, but he`s been almost as much of a revelation as Ngwenya this season for me. Definitely worth another year, along with Hammy and possibly Bene.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 25 May 05:58
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 24 May 16:56
I`d like Freddie Turley back on loan if that were possible. He had the right combination of strength and skill for the Championship and could cover a few positions.
Agree 100%, wee eck. He`s loved his time with the Pars and wouldn`t need his arm twisted to come back next season if the clubs can agree a loan deal. It was so unfortunate that he picked up that injury as he would almost certainly have made the starting lineup at Hampden, I believe.
Would also like to see Olly Thomas back if we can get him. Showed a lot of potential. Big and strong, with lots of energy. And nobody has mentioned Sam Young. I thought he looked the part when he started in the first team. Sure, he made the odd mistake in a couple of games, but he was only 18 if memory serves.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 25 May 07:09
Hasn’t Lenny been quoted as saying he doesn’t like brining loans in? Sure the situation is ox in the playoffs will have strengthened that view.
We used the loan market last year as we missed out on some targets, not sure we’ll see many loans this year but guess it depends on how much we want the player.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 25 May 08:02
I would imagine that we may have to pay for two or three players this season. A goalkeeper is first on the list. I would anticipate a couple of loans. Two players with known credentials are Freddie and Olly. The difference for me this season over last is that there will be more opportunity for NL to bring in players that he wants. To have a serious attempt at winning the championship we need players signed up ready for pre season. Players hedging theiir bets on contracts suggests to me they have other priorities in terms of their future careers. As a club, we can`t afford to wait around in my view. That I suspect was NL`s message to those players in his post match interview. Although he may play it down, this season will be a big one, and he will want players on board who are serious about being involved in winning the championship.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Mon 25 May 09:19)
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Mon 25 May 08:33
Turley looked decent but has struggled with injuries throughout the loan.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Mon 25 May 09:42
I do feel like some people on here think we can just pull 18 players that are starting in the premiership .
Matty Todd for me is our best player to get the ball forward from midfield the last few games our wing backs have been way too defensive which has impacted both sides so for some to say we need better why not say a few realistic names that could replaced with players.
Hamilton if he’s okay with being a squad player that will start a few games and come from the bench in others would be great to keep for another season we can’t just go get players left right and centre by the time they all gel in together your sitting bottom at Christmas and going oh we really should have kept most of the players we’ve let go
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 25 May 10:12
Realistically, I would have thought we wpuld want to keep CH, KN, JCM and MT. I think personally Bene still has something to offer but imagine he would want to play in a team and start every week, much like CH. I suspect that their agents are working on offers for them elsewhere. Thats the reality. I expect that some will move on to other things but conversely every problem offers opportunity.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Mon 25 May 10:15
IMO, Bene is past it (and has been for at least a year) and so I think he would need to drop down a league to get regular games. That said, he has been a really good player for us over the years.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Mon 25 May 10:19
Seems unlikely, but it would be great if we can hold on to JCM and Ngwenya. The latter in particular has been excellent at CB. Even on Saturday, he quietly swept up a fair bit and still looked decent even as we struggled to contain Celtic at times.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 25 May 11:27
Lennon is right about loans. We`ve had some great loans (and some terrible ones!) but the problem is the good ones can get recalled/leave at the end of the season.
Imagine where we might have ended up if Stewart had signed or we had Oxborough earlier on?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 25 May 11:33
Really hate seeing players who`ve served us well being described as "past it"
Surely we can put it a bit better than that?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 25 May 11:53
I`d definitely keep Matty. Versatile, technically good and one of the best in the team at getting the ball forward
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 25 May 11:53
This time last year players like Todd and Ngwenya were being written off by some on here as not good enough if we wanted to challenge for promotion. Now we want to keep them. Some of the current squad could easily make themselves valuable assets if given the chance.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 25 May 12:04
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 25 May 11:53
This time last year players like Todd and Ngwenya were being written off by some on here as not good enough if we wanted to challenge for promotion. Now we want to keep them. Some of the current squad could easily make themselves valuable assets if given the chance.
Yep, everyone has potential to get better and improve. Its just down to how you approach it mentally I think. NL laid it out to Matty Todd and he rose to the challenge for example. Kieron has done the same.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Mon 25 May 12:34
I think we will have offered Todd a new contract - he’s started nearly every game since he came into the team and has the most assists this season. I had thought he’d be staying but after these comment from Lennon I’m not so sure.
Mullen will be away, have always felt we were just a stepping stone for him. He’ll end up back down south.
As for Ngwenya, as soon as there were rumours about him leaving I thought he’d be away.
At the start of the season Todd and Ngwenya looked to be on their way out, so you can’t blame them if they take a better offer to go elsewhere. For what it’s worth, it’ll come down to money and they’ll get better money in England and in the Premiership.
There was an interview with Hamilton were he alluded to leaving so don’t think he’s been offered a new contract. He’ll do a job in the championship for another team if he does leave.
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Mon 25 May 12:44
How about JCM signing for Aberdeen in the summer, only making fringe appearances and then being loaned back in January?
That`s the kind of loan signing I think would work!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Mon 25 May 13:02
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Mon 25 May 11:53
This time last year players like Todd and Ngwenya were being written off by some on here as not good enough if we wanted to challenge for promotion. Now we want to keep them. Some of the current squad could easily make themselves valuable assets if given the chance.
"Written off by some on here" and is it not more pertinent to say that Neil Lennon agreed with them.
It took him 11 games to change his mind about Matty Todd and it was only a few days after the death of Lennon`s father in December that Ngwenya was selected in a team led by Ian Brunskill down at Queen of the South.
The obvious difference in Ngwenya is positional, whilst played as a left back he offered very little going forward but playing on the left side of a 3 or as the left centre back has been the making of him, his pace and strength have shone and a welcome bonus he`s managed to net 4 times in 15 Championship games. I get the feeling Otoo could yet flourish like Ngwenya has.
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Mon 25 May 13:04
Sounds like Matty is off to the Premiership in Scotland.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 25 May 13:09
Quote:
livipar2, Mon 25 May 13:04
Sounds like Matty is off to the Premiership in Scotland.
If it`s Falkirk. He is dead to me.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 25 May 13:14
Quote:
Higgys Mohawk, Mon 25 May 12:34
I think we will have offered Todd a new contract - he’s started nearly every game since he came into the team and has the most assists this season. I had thought he’d be staying but after these comment from Lennon I’m not so sure.
Mullen will be away, have always felt we were just a stepping stone for him. He’ll end up back down south.
As for Ngwenya, as soon as there were rumours about him leaving I thought he’d be away.
At the start of the season Todd and Ngwenya looked to be on their way out, so you can’t blame them if they take a better offer to go elsewhere. For what it’s worth, it’ll come down to money and they’ll get better money in England and in the Premiership.
There was an interview with Hamilton were he alluded to leaving so don’t think he’s been offered a new contract. He’ll do a job in the championship for another team if he does leave.
Pretty accurate, HM
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 25 May 13:20
Quote - "Written off by some on here" and is it not more pertinent to say that Neil Lennon agreed with them.
A manager can only choose 11 starters and 9 subs. Anyone not included isn`t necessarily `written off`. The challenge is for them to force their way back into the squad.
I`m not sure Otoo will get the chance to flourish. Unlike Ngwenya he hasn`t found a position he is wholly suited to and he`s out of contract now isn`t he?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 25 May 13:25
I`d be surprised and disappointed if we lost all 3 of Todd, Ngwenya and JCM. I certainly expect the latter to leave but with the other 2 they`ve been through a lot of ups and downs in recent years and have just found their feet in developing at this level, so you`d hope a competitive offer and stability would tempt them to stay.
Having said that I`d be delighted for them if they get moves to improve their livelihoods and obviously the level they`re playing at, they`ve given us so much to enjoy over the last 4-5 months. Given how short football careers are, players have to take opportunities when they`re presented to them and I`m sure all 3 will have options on the table that are enticing.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Mon 25 May 13:35
Quote:
livipar2, Mon 25 May 13:04
Sounds like Matty is off to the Premiership in Scotland.
According to who?
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 25 May 15:41
Heard there’s a strong chance Todds heading to Perth.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 25 May 15:41
King Lad, I’ll be more surprised and shocked if any stay.
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Topic Originator: livipar2
Date: Mon 25 May 15:53
That’s what I’ve heard as well.
Mon the Pars!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Mon 25 May 16:00
Surely Todd and Ngwenya`s progression is a lesson for those on here who wrote them off at the start of the season?
Yes they weren`t in NL`s plans initially but he kept them around the squad and gave them a chance.
FWIW, I thought Ngwenya was ok at full back. The entire team was struggling at that time.
Post Edited (Mon 25 May 16:00)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 25 May 16:19
Personally I never rated Ngwenya as Left Back or Wing Back, yes he has the athleticism but his end product was poor. He had an impossible task or replacing Josh Edwards who perfected that role.
He is an out and out centre half and one of the best in the league.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 25 May 16:30
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 25 May 16:19
Personally I never rated Ngwenya as Left Back or Wing Back, yes he has the athleticism but his end product was poor. He had an impossible task or replacing Josh Edwards who perfected that role.
He is an out and out centre half and one of the best in the league.
He has found his position.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 25 May 16:51
How disappointing will it be if Matty Todd signs for SJ, especially with no fee involved?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 25 May 17:31
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 25 May 16:51
How disappointing will it be if Matty Todd signs for SJ, especially with no fee involved?
Can see the headline now. “Local lad, brought through by us, turns down Pars’ offer to sign for newly promoted side”
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Mr Mac
Date: Mon 25 May 17:44
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 25 May 17:31
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 25 May 16:51
How disappointing will it be if Matty Todd signs for SJ, especially with no fee involved?
Can see the headline now. “Local lad, brought through by us, and deemed not good enough by the expert fans turns down Pars’ offer to sign for newly promoted side”
Edited for accuracy Raymie...
Post Edited (Mon 25 May 17:44)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 25 May 17:49
I would imagine if we had won promotion it would have been a done deal with those offered contracts. Its always going to be tough when you have players on one year deals or they are in their final year. The team has come on leaps and bounds this year, in no small part down to the owners and management team. A few of the players are from the previous year where we under performed so alot of that must be down to leadership and coaching. If players chose to leave I wish them well. Sometimes its easy to think the grass is greener on the other side. NL wants winners, no doubt he wants to win the championship next season. If we improve as much as we have this season we will be up there challenging.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 25 May 18:01
As sad as it is this time of the season (I’m trying no’ to greet every time someone says JCM is awa oot the door), it’s their careers. It’s just one of those football things.
They’ve no even had their summer holidays yet.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Par-timer
Date: Mon 25 May 19:23
I agree with GG Riva about Sam Young, looked decent at Championship level when given the chance at centre back by McPake, and with a solid season at Tranent and EK playing men’s football, at twenty years of age he may be able to replace one of those departing fairly seamlessly, so hopefully he will get a new contract offer.
On a similar theme, having played two successful seasons at Cowdenbeath in the Lowland League then Forfar in League Two, Jake Sutherland will hopefully be able to compete for a striker role here next season when he is in the last year of his current deal.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 25 May 19:36
Surely St Johnstone will have to dig pretty deep for Andrew/John Tod?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Mon 25 May 19:50
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 25 May 19:36
Surely St Johnstone will have to dig pretty deep for Andrew/John Tod?
I think their meaning Matty Todd going to St Johnstone
nazpar
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 25 May 19:52
There`s a good interview on the terrace podcast with Jim Weir (Forfar manager) where he raves about Sutherland.
For anyone that`s not heard it, he said Sutherland wasn`t quite ready at the beginning of the loan. He said his attitude was first class though and he took on everything they were asking him to work on. Also said he`s physically a different animal now. Ended up having an outstanding second half of the season and took home three awards at the POTY night.
This is exactly what you hope will happen on a loan.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 25 May 20:39
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 25 May 15:41
Heard there’s a strong chance Todds heading to Perth.
I read this as the Tod brothers!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 25 May 20:46
Robbie Fraser noising up the big Ox to sign ‘the contract’ on Instagram
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 25 May 21:29
My mate played with Sutherland at Forfar says he’s some player , really good finisher
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 25 May 22:41
Todd to St.Johnstone is a sore one but well done that boy if true.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 26 May 08:42
I think as a development club, players at the end of their contract may move on. Agents will obviously look for the best financial deal for them. I would suspect our model is incremental improvement such that at the end of their contracts they see a better future with us. Our aim this year is obviously automatic promotion, therefore another season in the championship, the associated development of players over that 12 months can be a better option than perhaps going to a higher league club, not getting regular game time then being released at the end of the season. Its a difficult choice and a gamble for some.Our recruitment last season was spot on. This season we are in a better position to attract other quality players because of the success we have had. The other way to look this is, that players will move on, however, players who may have walked that path, or may not be getting first team football will be attracted to us because of the success we have had and how that may help their development. Success breeds success, every negative has a positive.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Tue 26 May 09:18
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Par-timer, Mon 25 May 19:23
I agree with GG Riva about Sam Young, looked decent at Championship level when given the chance at centre back by McPake, and with a solid season at Tranent and EK playing men’s football, at twenty years of age he may be able to replace one of those departing fairly seamlessly, so hopefully he will get a new contract offer.
On a similar theme, having played two successful seasons at Cowdenbeath in the Lowland League then Forfar in League Two, Jake Sutherland will hopefully be able to compete for a striker role here next season when he is in the last year of his current deal.
I’m not so sure about that. He looked average in an average team. The aim will be to win the league next season, and if we lose JCM and Ngwenya and replace them with Sam Young, that doesn’t fill me with much confidence about achieving that goal.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 May 09:32
If we are being honest, I think that our best starting 11 as it stands is very close to competing for the league but since the squad is young the drop off to the bench is quite big. So we’re probably in the 3/4 players short position.
Since it looks like we’re losing JCM, Ngwenya and Matty Todd I’d say we’re 6/7 players we’re looking at but I don’t know how that works financially or who’s going to be available 🤷🏻♂️
I think hammy could be a loss because you at least know what you’re getting from him however, the signings we have made have been pretty good recently so we’re probably. Hopefully that continues
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 26 May 10:24
Every team needs a Hammy. Boyhood supporter, plays for the team, does the work gives 110%. Its that attitude and workrate that will win important games next season.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 26 May 10:47
Hammy tries and puts in a shift but he’s not technically great and his passing isn’t great either.
I’d rather he moved on and we bring in better players to push us on as a team.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 26 May 11:26
As much as I like Hammy and appreciate his contribution he’s only a sub and never a starter these days. We can’t offer contracts to players nearing the end of the careers to sit on the bench, they need to be superseded with starters in order to progress. I’d be quite happy if he stays, but he won’t get much game time and I don’t see it happening, but he can be proud of the contribution he’s made since he’s been here.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 26 May 11:36
Hammy is 24
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 26 May 11:38
He`ll be 25 in July so hardly nearing the end of his career! The fact that he`s a Pars fan shouldn`t matter though, only his ability, and he might agree it`s time to move on.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 26 May 11:40
Hamilton and Todd are nowhere near the end of their careers - both are only 24 years old, so at or approaching their prime.
Football is a horribly cruel game, and for their boyhood club to release them just after the Cup Final would be heartbreaking. We just have to trust the manager to make the right calls - stay or go, I wish both of them all the very best in future.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Tue 26 May 11:44
I hope both Hamilton and Todd stay. I seem to be in the minority that thinks Hamilton enhances the team. Not as bad on the ball as some make out and a combative and reliable presence on the park. I`ve been surprised by his omission lately.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 26 May 11:47
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Stanza, Tue 26 May 11:40
Hamilton and Todd are nowhere near the end of their careers - both are only 24 years old, so at or approaching their prime.
Football is a horribly cruel game, and for their boyhood club to release them just after the Cup Final would be heartbreaking. We just have to trust the manager to make the right calls - stay or go, I wish both of them all the very best in future.
Todd isn`t being released. He was offered and has apparently turned down the contract. Hamilton I don`t begrudge, he`s 24 and needs to be playing every week, if the rumours are true and County is the move, then he will be playing every week.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 26 May 11:53
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1985Par, Tue 26 May 11:44
I hope both Hamilton and Todd stay. I seem to be in the minority that thinks Hamilton enhances the team. Not as bad on the ball as some make out and a combative and reliable presence on the park. I`ve been surprised by his omission lately.
👍🏻 agreed
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Tue 26 May 12:18
So how many players are we going to need in the summer?
GK (replacing OX)
3x CB’s (replacing Bene, Ngwenya, JCM)
In my opinion we’ll need a RWB (replacing Todd) and LWB (replacing Otoo)
2x CM (if Hammy goes and Oakley-Boothe)
On top of that we’ll need at least another striker and I think we could do with another attacking player who can play ‘10’ and either side of a Kane/Rudden/Tod.
So that’s potentially 10 new signings needed?
All these players will need to settle into the squad and be ready to roll my august if we want to hit the ground running and win the league.
It’ll be a big ask to get all the recruitment right. Does that strengthen the case for keeping Hammy, as he is one of the leaders in the current dressing room?
Alternatively players like Bray, S.Young, C.Young, Sutherland, MacLeod can be used as first team players but all of them will need to step up considerably to be consistent enough week in week out at the top of the league.
Should be an interesting summer anyway.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 26 May 12:22
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Tue 26 May 11:53
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1985Par, Tue 26 May 11:44
I hope both Hamilton and Todd stay. I seem to be in the minority that thinks Hamilton enhances the team. Not as bad on the ball as some make out and a combative and reliable presence on the park. I`ve been surprised by his omission lately.
👍🏻 agreed
I think that Hammy can improve. Like others in the squad there are areas for him to work on. Happened with Matty and Kieron.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 26 May 12:31
If we are to progress from tbis season then we need to improve the quality of players .
Understand the sentiment of having your players who are pars through and through .
We tried that this season and came up short for one reason or another .
If Matty has been offered a contract and he decides its not for him ,we wish him all the best and move on .
Mehmet,Bene ,Hamilton need to be replaced by better quality of player .
Players out of contract again if they dont want to stay we wish them luck and move on .
I have faith in N L. The board and nanagement for thr future .
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Tue 26 May 13:21
Generally it`s about a players ability on the park and I get that but maybe certain players are worth a lot more behind the scenes aswell.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Tue 26 May 13:34
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wee eck, Tue 26 May 11:38
He`ll be 25 in July so hardly nearing the end of his career! The fact that he`s a Pars fan shouldn`t matter though, only his ability, and he might agree it`s time to move on.
Totally agree. Gone are the days for sentiment. I don’t think Lennon rates him. Between the Scottish Cup Final and the playoff run, he played a total of just three minutes. In our biggest games of the season, he was barely used.
It’s unlikely we’ll lose any of our midfield three, but we might strengthen that area, which would only push Hammy further down the pecking order.
Does he stay and feed off the odd few minutes here and there, or go to League One, become a mainstay in the team, and still play at a decent level? Only the player can choose.
I like him, and he’s brilliant with the fans, you can’t deny him that. Unfortunately, the time comes for most footballers when it’s sometimes better to move on.
Whether he stays or goes, he’s done well for us, and I wish him the best.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: ghostrider
Date: Tue 26 May 15:27
I am torn with this one - yes we need some better quality players, in my opinion a good leader who can drive up/keep up the standards of the younger players (a newer version of Ian Ferguson of his time).
If I look at the Glasgow two, Celtic has a few die in the wool players who would run through a brick wall for them whereas Rangers have none and it showed when the chips were down.
Ultimately I want to see the best possible players at the Pars, however I do think its good to have a core of guys who know what it is to play for the pars.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 26 May 16:09
I wonder if CH would be better in a back 4 on tge left or right rather than midfield. He played in the centre at the back a few times for us and was very good defensively.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 26 May 18:11
To be honest I’m hoping the priority is also nailing Lennon down on a contract extension if we can.
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Topic Originator: kparsfan
Date: Tue 26 May 20:07
What players did we have out on loan that will be returning? Is the likes of Connor Young and others to come back?
 Proud To Be A Par!!
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Wed 27 May 07:50
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Berry, Tue 26 May 18:11
To be honest I’m hoping the priority is also nailing Lennon down on a contract extension if we can.
Same here .
I know it was soon after a cup final defeat , but I didn`t get the feeling he was enthusiastic about next season in his interview .
Hope i`m wrong , and he stays with us for at least next season .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 27 May 08:24
He will be here next season. Whether he stays longer will depend if we get promotion.
My opinion only.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 27 May 08:35
Quote:
Parsweep, Wed 27 May 07:50
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Berry, Tue 26 May 18:11
To be honest I’m hoping the priority is also nailing Lennon down on a contract extension if we can.
Same here .
I know it was soon after a cup final defeat , but I didn`t get the feeling he was enthusiastic about next season in his interview .
Hope i`m wrong , and he stays with us for at least next season .
I thought the same, but maybe was just too soon to ask after the defeat. Perhaps didn`t anticipate the question, but you could also sense the disappointment that players offered contracts havent resigned. He clearly has a vision for the team and club, but it may not fit with some who may have other priorities who knows. Although perhaps a rebuild was mentioned, I think more a part rebuild as we have the core of a good squad. More importantly a squad who want to be here and continue the journey. As mentioned elsewhere, we need to bring in 3 or 4 players with a similar approach. Maybe the 12 month contract model doesnt fit with our trajectory and development approach, and we need to push that out to 2 years. If they do not resign, its not the end of the world and may open up other opportunities for NL. Depends on your perspective.
G Wardrope
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