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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Wed 27 May 10:53
Has posted a leaving post on his Facebook page.
Saying it’s a tough decision but he’s moving on to challenge himself.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 May 10:57
Gutted but well done to him. I hope wherever he`s off to works out...unless it`s Falkirk or Championship opposition.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Wed 27 May 11:00
All the best to Matty, if he`s talking about challenging himself then I assume he`s moving on to play at a higher level. Great professional, and he has everything he needs to really kick on and be a top player
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 27 May 11:00
Good luck, Young man. Gave everything for the shirt and should always be welcome at EEP.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 27 May 11:00
Pretty gutted but if he`s going to a top flight team then you really can`t blame him.
Best wishes to him ⚽️⚽️❤️❤️
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 27 May 11:10
Good luck Matty! Hopefully the club update fans on the coming and goings soon.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Wed 27 May 11:14
His post makes it sound like he`s stepping up a level. Good on him.
I`ll be sad to see him go, but I think we can recruit a decent enough replacement. There are other players I`d prefer to keep.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 27 May 11:15
I hope he`s moving down to England to play in League One or Two.
I`d love to have him at Barnet, but more likely he`s going to the bottom half of the Premiership.
Good luck to him, looked out of the picture, but worked his way into the first team, and has earned his move away.
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Topic Originator: Taxipar
Date: Wed 27 May 11:19
Rumour is he’s going to St Johnstone
A par since 1985
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Wed 27 May 11:23
If he was to head to Perth, yes it’s a step up league wise but I feel it’s far from challenging himself.
Down south would be the correct move for him, if Lewis McCann can do it, so can he.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 27 May 11:25
Gutted, but I wish him all the best.
He`s nearing his prime and is right to go and test himself at a higher level.
Post Edited (Wed 27 May 11:26)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 27 May 11:30
I’ll be gutted too. Love Matty.
After making his way back into the team.
Good luck.
I hate this time of the season 😔
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Wed 27 May 11:31)
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Wed 27 May 11:37
Who’s his agent?? I want to go do the old jobby in the burning bag on his doorstep
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 27 May 11:42
dont blame the player/agent when the clubs offer wasnt satisfactory to his longer term future
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 27 May 11:52
If you listen to the inside athletic podcast with Matty he more or less says he will leave as he wanted to play at a higher level, it was in discussion about how well Josh Edwards was doing at Charlton so it comes as no surprise to me.
Good luck to him.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Wed 27 May 12:06
I don`t think this`ll be the last bit of disappointing news this summer, but it`s part of the reality of where we are. Fair play to him if he wants to have a go at the Premiership or down south. If we do end up seeing a few players leave to higher levels, fingers crossed it shows that we`re a good place for players to build their profile, which is always a positive for recruitment.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Wed 27 May 12:16
Not too bothered about Matty leaving. I did like him,
but he wants to move on. We still have some really
good players in contract and im sure Neil will bring in
someone just as good as Matty.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 27 May 12:17
All good things must come to an end but this is a sore one.
I wish Matty all the very best and hope he goes from strength to strength throughout his career.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 27 May 12:18
All the best to him. Been a good player for us
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 27 May 12:21
Not surprising given the delay in announcements. Probably the first of a few. Better to be clear where you stand early on. I wish him well. It open up the opportunity to recruit someone new.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 27 May 12:22
"The Fifers tabled a substantial offer in their discussions with Todd, who Courier Sport understands would have become one of the club’s top earners.
But he is instead intent on finding a fresh challenge elsewhere.
Premiership sides and teams south of the border are believed to be amongst those interested in the versatile midfielder."
"It is understood the Pars expect to make a formal announcement at the end of this week when discussions with all players have taken place."
Courier
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Wed 27 May 12:28
Par 33, Lewis McCann is a poor comparison. He will be out of contract in a few days and has failed to establish himself at Fleetwood, mainly due to injury. I hope Matty Todd actually kicks on and proves he can be constant with performances.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 27 May 12:35
It is sad to see him go, but I am glad he was offered a decent contract. I would not have liked to see him released after all his efforts.
I bet that goal v Aberdeen put right in the window.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 27 May 12:40
According to both transfermarket and wikipedia Lewis McCann`s contract at Fleetwood has another year to run.
Good luck to Matty. It`s a shame he wasn`t on a longer contract and we coiuld have negotiated a fee but that`s with the benefit of hindsight.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 27 May 12:41
Good luck Matty, sad to see you go but I think you`re probably doing the right thing.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 27 May 12:43
No blame on either side here - sounds like the club made a decent offer inside the wage structure, and Todd has decided he can do better elsewhere and wants to challenge himself at a higher level.
I`d say he`s good enough for the top end of League 2, or the bottom half of League One, so hope he ends up there.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 27 May 12:47
Sad to see him go but goes with the best wishes of us all I imagine.
We will miss his goal assists which were many and his 💯 effort he always put in.
Good luck Matty.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Wed 27 May 13:05
Sad to lose a player who has been so consistent over the years. He’s been absolutely superb this year, & hopefully he can get himself a decent move down south. He’s easily good enough to play league 1.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Wed 27 May 13:07
He’ll get a decent signing on fee that could set him up and a good salary to match if he goes to the Prem or England. Having had a serious injury not so long ago it’s probably made him think about his future. I don’t blame him and hope it works out well.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 27 May 13:15
The worst thing about some of our best players leaving is that they`re going for free.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 27 May 13:23
I heard Perth as well - a sound source.
Not sure that`s a big step up like Edwards, however if that`s his choice, so be it.
He certainly contributed in a Pars jersey.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 27 May 13:27
"Not surprising given the delay in announcements"
not sure when you wanted announcements... we are barely 72 hours on from one of the biggest games in the club history. Announce pre match that half the starting line up arent getting deals?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 27 May 13:43
Did anyone notice the drop off in results at Charlton this year after Josh was injured? Coincidence or maybe he was the driver behind a lot of the team’s performances. That is an English Championship team so I see no reason Matty could not get involved in the Championship. Great servant to us. Was hoping even a testimonial but these are few and far between these days at the Pars.
Post Edited (Wed 27 May 13:43)
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Wed 27 May 13:46
Good luck wherever Matty goes, plenty memories, and he leaves on great terms.
It`s great that he has picked up, football is fleeting and brutal, it could easily have gone the other way if he picked up another injury.
I like it when players test themselves, hope it`s a Prem team or league 1- if it`s English that could change his life
As for statements....well I guess it`s quiet, but all the players will be under contract for another few days? The club will give the players dignity surely and announce at the right time, or allow players to announce themselves.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 27 May 13:57
Quote:
neils, Wed 27 May 13:46
Good luck wherever Matty goes, plenty memories, and he leaves on great terms.
It`s great that he has picked up, football is fleeting and brutal, it could easily have gone the other way if he picked up another injury.
I like it when players test themselves, hope it`s a Prem team or league 1- if it`s English that could change his life
As for statements....well I guess it`s quiet, but all the players will be under contract for another few days? The club will give the players dignity surely and announce at the right time, or allow players to announce themselves.
Yeah. There was no point announcing things before the final.
We could have potentially qualified for Europe next season which could have swayed players possibly leaving us to stay.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Wed 27 May 14:13
Good luck Matty - You gave your all for the Pars and you`ll forever be one off our own. Hope the future shines bright for you...
Post Edited (Wed 27 May 14:14)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 27 May 14:50
No disrespect intended, but instead of saying `I want to test myself at the highest level I can` why can`t footballers come clean and say `I want to make as much money from the game as possible`? Everybody knows that`s how football works and no one would blame them for it.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Wed 27 May 14:57
Because players do want to test themselves at the highest level they can.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 27 May 15:01
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 27 May 14:50
No disrespect intended, but instead of saying `I want to test myself at the highest level I can` why can`t footballers come clean and say `I want to make as much money from the game as possible`? Everybody knows that`s how football works and no one would blame them for it.
Well...the two go hand in hand. A higher level generally means more money, doesn`t really need to be said.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Wed 27 May 15:01
A local lad made good and all the best
Hopefully not St Johnstone but a bit better step up than that, but saying that they are in the top league next year anyway.
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Wed 27 May 15:03
Good luck to Matty. Will follow his future career with great interest. For me he embodies everything a hometown club like a Dunfermline should be looking to produce.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 27 May 15:11
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 27 May 14:50
No disrespect intended, but instead of saying `I want to test myself at the highest level I can` why can`t footballers come clean and say `I want to make as much money from the game as possible`? Everybody knows that`s how football works and no one would blame them for it.
Can`t disagree with that. Far too much rhetoric going about these days.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 27 May 15:26
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 27 May 12:35
It is sad to see him go, but I am glad he was offered a decent contract. I would not have liked to see him released after all his efforts.
I bet that goal v Aberdeen put right in the window.
I think as well what these players will look at is what Barney Stewart has achieved, from being developed by us, scoring in the championship and going back to Falkirk and having goal scoring success there. The principal.problem for us is the success we have had can be counter intuitive unless we have players in longer term contracts. I got the feeling from the post match interview with NL that there was a level of disappointment with some of the players not signing on, given the time and investment the manager and coaching staff have put in. Last season before they came in, these players careers werent`t really going anywhere of note. I suppose thats football, and these players remained professional to the end. On the positive side, I hope that we can bring in players who want to be part of our push for promotion next season.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Wed 27 May 15:55
But India you can look at it 2 ways because remember at the start of the season it looked like both matty and Kieran were both out in the cold and no one would really be shocked if they were put out on loan in January to see out the last bit of their contracts now they’ve both turned into must starts for us so why shouldn’t they have been looking about to see what was out there
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Wed 27 May 17:18
Quote:
par_33, Wed 27 May 11:23
If he was to head to Perth, yes it’s a step up league wise but I feel it’s far from challenging himself.
Down south would be the correct move for him, if Lewis McCann can do it, so can he.
Lewis McCann is flying right enough, about 15 appearances and 1 goal in over 900 minutes of football.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Wed 27 May 17:20
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Wed 27 May 17:18
Quote:
par_33, Wed 27 May 11:23
If he was to head to Perth, yes it’s a step up league wise but I feel it’s far from challenging himself.
Down south would be the correct move for him, if Lewis McCann can do it, so can he.
Lewis McCann is flying right enough, about 15 appearances and 1 goal in over 900 minutes of football.
That’s what happens when you snap your leg mid season.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 27 May 17:21
Good luck, Matty.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 27 May 17:22
Backing himself to make the move up but wasn’t a stand out for a team who finished a country mile behind the saints. Benchwarmer in the prem will pay more than benchwarmer here I guess (assuming we strengthen)
He was free to leave last season after a very poor season and there were no takers so good he’s turned it around to some extent.
Post Edited (Wed 27 May 17:24)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 27 May 17:28
The post above me is hating it
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 27 May 17:43
Quote:
Parsdaft21346327964, Wed 27 May 15:55
But India you can look at it 2 ways because remember at the start of the season it looked like both matty and Kieran were both out in the cold and no one would really be shocked if they were put out on loan in January to see out the last bit of their contracts now they’ve both turned into must starts for us so why shouldn’t they have been looking about to see what was out there
Thats fair comment Parsdaft. I was looking at it from a club perspective and how better to protect the investment the club makes in players.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 27 May 17:47
Quote:
Bazzler1981, Wed 27 May 11:37
Who’s his agent?? I want to go do the old jobby in the burning bag on his doorstep
Best laugh I`ve had aw day 🤣
Thank you
Admin
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Topic Originator: cfad
Date: Wed 27 May 18:09
Good luck Matty for your future. Anyone with ambition would look to further their career and grow in their profession, regardless of the industry, and he’s young with many years ahead of him. No matter where he goes from here and in the future, he’ll always be a Pars fan.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 27 May 18:18
So much for kissing the badge and thumping your chest, wouldn`t have got a game for Kelty at the start of the season!💰💰💰
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 27 May 18:20
Good luck to him. He obviously feels he needs a change and fair enough. I hope he does well for himself
COYP
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 27 May 18:31
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 27 May 18:18
So much for kissing the badge and thumping your chest, wouldn`t have got a game for Kelty at the start of the season!💰💰💰
Jesus fkin wept mate, ur a mutant 👍
COYP
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 27 May 18:43
Best of luck to Matty ,sometimes its good for player and club
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Wed 27 May 18:45
A few "I never thought she was pretty anyway" type comments in here
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 27 May 18:50
Both Matty and Kieran took their careers by the scruff of the neck when called upon to, good luck to them.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Wed 27 May 18:57
Best wishes to Matty Todd. A great Dunfermline player. I think this is actually in the interest of both parties. I hope he kicks on and makes a star of himself and, as for us, the players who got you from A to B, aren`t always the ones who`ll get you from B to C so I think Lennon will be looking to bring in a high caliber of replacement. Our achievements this season made EEP, the Pars, Neil Lennon an attractive proposition for quite a few players you`d imagine.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Wed 27 May 19:13
Fair play Matty. You`ve been great to watch. Can`t blame you at all for moving on while your stock is high.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Wed 27 May 20:01
Quote:
General Zod, Wed 27 May 13:15
The worst thing about some of our best players leaving is that they`re going for free.
Agreed, I don`t know why the club can`t tie our better players to an extended contract, with a clause to allow them to leave for a fee, instead of leaving for free.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 27 May 20:25
It`s incredibly difficult to keep good players at this level if their deals are running out. It`s easy pickings for Premiership sides or lower leagues in England that can spend significantly more than the Pars can and offer a higher level of football which is enticing.
Can`t blame Matty at all, his stock has probably never been higher and you don`t know if he`ll get another chance at going up a level. I`m sure it was a really tough decision for him but sometimes this is what happens in football. I really felt he could`ve been a player that could`ve spent his entire career with us, but it wasn`t to be.
Best of luck Matty, go and smash it.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Wed 27 May 20:53
Quote:
Swisspar, Wed 27 May 20:01
Quote:
General Zod, Wed 27 May 13:15
The worst thing about some of our best players leaving is that they`re going for free.
Agreed, I don`t know why the club can`t tie our better players to an extended contract, with a clause to allow them to leave for a fee, instead of leaving for free.
A club like ours simply doesn`t have the cash reserves to give all our players really long term deals. If we need to terminate their contracts (for whatever reason) then we could be left with some significant financial liabilites.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Wed 27 May 20:59
No one can tie anyone to a contract they don`t want
We already have signed up a number of players on 3 and even 4 year deals- how much longer do you want the club to be exposed for?
These are just the breaks, we and other clubs will always lose players on frees, just as we sign good players on frees.
At what point would you have offered Ngwenya a 5 year contract for example?No one could predict how he would improve. Ditto Matty Todd, he was as out of the picture.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 27 May 21:39
If Matty goes to St.Johnstone it is kinda similar to the George O`Boyle situation, all be it back then they were coming down and now they are going up.
If he is Perth bound, it`s maybe time to stop singing songs about O`Boyle, he should be in our hall of fame not the pantomime villain.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 27 May 21:44
Put that rod away min
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 27 May 21:47
O`Boyle was a fantastic player for us.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 27 May 21:52
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Wed 27 May 21:47
O`Boyle was a fantastic player for us.
The situation is nothing like when OBoyle moved to St Johnstone
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 27 May 22:00
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Topic Originator: da_no_1 like
Date: Wed 27 May 21:52
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Bletchley_Par, Wed 27 May 21:47
O`Boyle was a fantastic player for us.
The situation is nothing like when OBoyle moved to St Johnstone
It`s similar in some aspects, different in others.
We are not getting 200 grand for Matty and he will not be playing in the same league for instance.
He is signing for St. Johnstone on freedom of contract, for footballing ambition and probably for better money.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Wed 27 May 22:04
See if a club has a budget of 200k for a player to cover the transfer fee and his wages, then they can offer an out of contract player 200k in wages. If that player wants a step up when he approaches the end of his contract, he’s not going to renew his contract allowing the club to charge a transfer fee of 100k if it means he’ll only get a salary of 100k. That’s why it’s nearly impossible for a club to keep a player who wants to leave as he’d be severely limiting his earning potential
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 27 May 22:10
Good luck to the lad and he needs to experience a different club etc.
I have no doubt he will do well as he has the desire to get better.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 27 May 23:20
Good luck to him. I always quite liked the kid, could make things happen, and was a good crosser of the ball.
When I was looking over the out of contract players though, I was thinking, is he the sort of player that can take us to a higher level and I wasn`t convinced, he`s done okay but he`s a mid table Championship player in my opinion. Obviously, my opinion isn`t worth a jot, compared to Simo`s if he is going to go to the Super J`s.
I do feel slightly let down by Matty as well, The Pars have put a lot of time and money into developing him as a player, they have been really patient, helped him through injury, kept faith that he would come good, and when the first offer comes along, he`s off like a shot.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 27 May 23:35
I`ve often felt like that about footballers, r-s-p. While they`re at a club they benefit from top class health and medical care and physical training which often restores them to match fitness which the club doesn`t always benefit from before the player moves on.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 28 May 06:27
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 27 May 18:18
So much for kissing the badge and thumping your chest, wouldn`t have got a game for Kelty at the start of the season!💰💰💰
As I see it, we`re all Pars fans, but Todd is also a pro footballer. You have to assume that he`s been offered a better deal than the Pars did. At this point, he had a decision to make. Move to another club offering more money and security to play at a higher level, or remain with the club he`s emotionally attached to.
It`s a no brainer.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Thu 28 May 07:18
Two or three suggestions that he wasn’t good enough to take us to next level, but Matty is exactly the type we need. He’s a developing footballer that would have grown to be better for us next season and the season after.
Who will we entice to join us for the salary we offered him ? We’re not paying salaries for “peak of career” players. If Todd was on £30k a year and was offered a substantial increase, say 75%? Then that’s still only £52.5k a year. Not a lot in the career of a footballer.
Matt only has one career and has to take every opportunity to make the most out of it. I’d have liked him to stay. I think he could have contributed to us winning promotion.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 28 May 08:22
If our offer couldn`t persuade a Pars fan to stay what chance have we got that JCM and KN will accept their offers?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 28 May 08:42
Our offer wouldn’t include premier league football though
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 28 May 08:47
They could see them both as saleable assets and give them enough to stay - with the expectation that we get promoted and cash in at some point. It`s a gamble but that seems to be the business our owners are in. They`ve also only been here a year or two.
Todd, in my view, is not ever going to be sold for a bundle of cash - so the offer is likely to reflect only the value to the team. He`s also been here 8 years, so may well prefer a new challenge.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Thu 28 May 08:53
"kept faith that he would come good, and when the first offer comes along, he`s off like a shot."
Rubbish, 9 months ago the club had no faith in him & told him to find a new club. If the club had faith he would come good then they would`ve offered him an extension like they did with Cooper etc, but instead they were asking him to leave.
People forget how precarious these players` careers are. If you fail at the Pars, or even end up sidelined with an injury for a while then the next step down is part time football. We`ve had loads of players over the last 10-15 years that looked decent, but never kicked on & ended up part time, or even retired by 30.
Matty is backing himself to go up a level, and quite right, he`s done well against the prem teams this season. If he kicks on he could have a great career, if he fails then he can come back to the level we`re currently at anyway.
It`s a sore one for the pars but Matty has to do what`s right for him. And at the end of the day, the reason he`s going on a free is because the pars failed to see the potential in him, and didn`t have faith in him until it was too late.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 28 May 09:38
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Thu 28 May 08:53
"kept faith that he would come good, and when the first offer comes along, he`s off like a shot."
Rubbish, 9 months ago the club had no faith in him & told him to find a new club. If the club had faith he would come good then they would`ve offered him an extension like they did with Cooper etc, but instead they were asking him to leave.
People forget how precarious these players` careers are. If you fail at the Pars, or even end up sidelined with an injury for a while then the next step down is part time football. We`ve had loads of players over the last 10-15 years that looked decent, but never kicked on & ended up part time, or even retired by 30.
Matty is backing himself to go up a level, and quite right, he`s done well against the prem teams this season. If he kicks on he could have a great career, if he fails then he can come back to the level we`re currently at anyway.
It`s a sore one for the pars but Matty has to do what`s right for him. And at the end of the day, the reason he`s going on a free is because the pars failed to see the potential in him, and didn`t have faith in him until it was too late.
I agree.
I heard he got a real rough time from NL when he first arrived. To be honest, probably deserved but Matty reacted and improved. Fair play, says a lot about him as a person. however now that’s he’s had a good a season as he has, he’s looking to move up after being so close to moving down 🤷🏻♂️ maybe NL being hard on him was what he needed at the time but maybe what he needs now is to move on.
Scottish football is small, you’re so close to the top and bottom at the same time.
COYP
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 28 May 10:10
Quote:
DBP, Thu 28 May 08:42
Our offer wouldn’t include premier league football though
Matty has been with us a lot longer than Kieran and Jeremiah, so it could also just be that he feels things are getting a bit stale for him on a personal level.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 28 May 10:31
not the best Technically when in midfield or with his back to goal but his natural fitness and running power are perfect for wingback
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Thu 28 May 10:45
"not the best Technically when in midfield or with his back to goal but his natural fitness and running power are perfect for wingback"
Think you`re doing him a disservice there. Arguably as 2 -footed as anyone at the club and scored some absolute pearlers a few years back ( Airdrie, Clyde, Alloa spring to mind) and I`d also argue that he showed a fair bit of technical ability when he controlled the ball on his thigh and rifled a volley in the top corner against Aberdeen.
Not trying to be arsey about it, but I think he`s better in that department than he gets credit for.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 28 May 11:01
Its a done deal and he has confirmed early so that helps. Good luck to him. I wish him the besr. We move on.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Thu 28 May 12:08
I`m quite sad to see Matty leave, but wish him all the best in his future career, I`m sure he`ll do well. Thanks for the memories.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Thu 28 May 12:57
Just wondering if it will be all sweetness and light if he signs for the Grangemouth mutants??
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Thu 28 May 13:35
Quote:
Bazzler1981, Thu 28 May 12:57
Just wondering if it will be all sweetness and light if he signs for the Grangemouth mutants??
He isn`t so irrelevant.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Thu 28 May 13:46
And you know he defo isn’t?? Until you see the scarf above the head and all that
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 2 Jun 16:51
Courier essentially confirming his transfer to St Johnstone on a 2 year deal
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Topic Originator: MrEdd
Date: Tue 2 Jun 17:03
Wouldnt be a huge surprise if they go down as we go up, not really much of a step up, but good luck to him anyway.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 2 Jun 17:11
He’s got the chance to play Hearts, Hibs, Celtic, Rangers multiple times a season.
That’s a step up for him, and steep learning curve playing against that quality of opposition.
He’s keen to develop and test himself, he’s been with us a while, little more for him to gain with us I think on that front so he goes with my best wishes and I’m confident whoever we bring in will be a suitable replacement.
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme
Date: Tue 2 Jun 17:13
Wish him all the best, as a club for me not a step up but yes in terms of division.
If he doesn’t want to be here then time to forget him and move on. We need players that want to be at the club.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:00
I said I`d be disappointed if he ended up at SJ and that`s still how I feel. It was said we made him an offer which would have made him one of the highest-paid players at EEP. Presumably it would have made provision for an increase in the event of promotion next year. Didn`t Matty think this was achievable or was it just a case of `a bird in the hand...`?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:07
Good luck to him. Good servant to the club through the years. Filled in across multiple positions when needed
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:11
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 2 Jun 19:00
I said I`d be disappointed if he ended up at SJ and that`s still how I feel. It was said we made him an offer which would have made him one of the highest-paid players at EEP. Presumably it would have made provision for an increase in the event of promotion next year. Didn`t Matty think this was achievable or was it just a case of `a bird in the hand...`?
He’s served us well, he’s making the right decision for him, he’ll still have had a nice bump from St Johnstone plus playing Premier League football.
There’s absolutely no guarantee we get promoted next season so from his perspective probably the right time to move as otherwise find himself in the same predicament as now should we not be successful.
Football careers are short.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:17
Folk saying it’s not a step up…of course it is and if he establishes himself as a regular starter he’s playing against much stronger teams week in/out and can only improve. Hes a player that wants to improve and has the desire to play at the top.
Good luck to him and I’ll be looking at St Johnstone results next season.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:31
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 2 Jun 19:00
I said I`d be disappointed if he ended up at SJ and that`s still how I feel. It was said we made him an offer which would have made him one of the highest-paid players at EEP. Presumably it would have made provision for an increase in the event of promotion next year. Didn`t Matty think this was achievable or was it just a case of `a bird in the hand...`?
I suspect he’ll also have received a significant signing on fee, which just might set him up for a few years.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:33
Daily Record are reporting he turned down offers from England to sign with St Johnstone.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:47
I`ve got to admit, I feel the same Wee Eck. Maybe I`m looking at things through black & white-tinted spectacles, but I feel we are a bigger club than St Johnsone, certainly the crowds have been. Last year we had the largest average attendance in the Championship, 5,487 despite a mixed season, while St Johnstone had 4,668. The season before, when they were in the Premiership they only just had about 100 punters more than us per game on average.
Plus, to me, it feels like if I was a player we would be a good option, we ended the season strongly, we have the most successful manager at winning the big trophies currently working in Scottish football, it feels like this might be our year to challenge for promotion. I can see us playing in front of average crowds of 8,000+ when we get to the Premiership. Really feels like a good chance to be at a club that`s going somewhere.
For a fairly average player that the club has stuck by, and could have easily been discarded years ago, much like Paul Allen, I`m really surprised he hasn`t decided to stick around, especially since he claims to be a Pars fan
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:50
Quote:
red-star-par, Tue 2 Jun 19:47
I`ve got to admit, I feel the same Wee Eck. Maybe I`m looking at things through black & white-tinted spectacles, but I feel we are a bigger club than St Johnsone, certainly the crowds have been. Last year we had the largest average attendance in the Championship, 5,487 despite a mixed season, while St Johnstone had 4,668. The season before, when they were in the Premiership they only just had about 100 punters more than us per game on average.
Plus, to me, it feels like if I was a player we would be a good option, we ended the season strongly, we have the most successful manager at winning the big trophies currently working in Scottish football, it feels like this might be our year to challenge for promotion. I can see us playing in front of average crowds of 8,000+ when we get to the Premiership. Really feels like a good chance to be at a club that`s going somewhere.
For a fairly average player that the club has stuck by, and could have easily been discarded years ago, much like Paul Allen, I`m really surprised he hasn`t decided to stick around, especially since he claims to be a Pars fan
I think that is my view also
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 2 Jun 19:56
What difference does the size of the clubs attendance make for Todd specifically exactly?
He’s also been with us for years, so being disappointed he isn’t ’sticking around’ is incredibly harsh and unwarranted.
The ‘claim to be a Pars fan’ is just a cheap dig that doesn’t really warrant going into detail on.
You can’t really stand by Dunfermline being a bigger club when we haven’t been in the top league since when…2011/12?
Definitely tinted specs on.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:19
I only care about players who want to play for
Dunfermline and Matty Todd no longer wants to.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:33
Quote:
Jock Par36, Tue 2 Jun 20:19
I only care about players who want to play for
Dunfermline and Matty Todd no longer wants to.
He wants to play at the highest level possible. If we got promoted I`ve no doubt he`d have stayed with us. As is covered every single year, players have a limited lifespan so need to get what they can while they can.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:38
Jake, St Johnstone isn`t exactly that a big step up.
If he had given us another season he could have
done it with a bigger club with a much bigger support
Dunfermline athletic.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:54
Quote:
Jock Par36, Tue 2 Jun 20:38
Jake, St Johnstone isn`t exactly that a big step up.
If he had given us another season he could have
done it with a bigger club with a much bigger support
Dunfermline athletic.
I’ll ask again, why is Dunfermline a bigger club than St Johnstone and why does the support matter when it comes to Todd making a decision on what he wants to do with his career?
Post Edited (Tue 02 Jun 20:54)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:54
Comparing us with St.Johnstone on crowd sizes is where similarities diverge.
We haven`t won a major trophy for 68 years and have been in the lower tiers for nearly 20 seasons.
During that latter period they were in the top league for 10+ consecutive seasons and have just won immediate promotion back.
Also won the League Cup in 2013-14, then the League Cup and Scottish Cup double 2020-21.
They`ve also avoided administration.
Perception is all in the mind of the beholder ?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 2 Jun 20:56
The laddie said he wanted to test himself at the highest level, so while we’re playing Stenhousemuir and Queens Park next season he’s got the opportunity to be playing against Celtic and Rangers.
To say there’s little difference just sounds like sour grapes.
Good luck to the lad he had to be patient for his opportunity ( there was talk of a loan move last September while he was out of favour) and careers are short so get it while you can.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Tue 2 Jun 21:00
Unfortunately it isn`t always as cut dried as people want to make out
There was a big clash at the start of season which both parties eventually ironed out to benefit each other
A good offer was made but the issues that were there at the start of the season were still simmering underneath and the decision had already been made up in his head
He was always going to try his best till he left because of his love for the club, but he knew he was going to leave
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 2 Jun 21:05
St Johnstone are poorly supported but they`re stable and they have a better record of playing at the top level than us so it`s clearly a step up. Play in games against Celtic and Hearts or Queens Park and Ayr?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 2 Jun 21:07
Good luck to him. He has always given of his best for us.
I’ve got my doubts about him stepping up to premier league level, but I’ve been wrong many times.
I think we can replace him with better.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 02 Jun 21:08)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 2 Jun 21:17
Not bothered by this in the slightest but then again my judgement isn’t clouded by whether a player is a pars fan or not, I just go with what I have seen.
Had a good 2nd half of the season for us but was murder the season before and was never a stand out in a team that consistently struggled at championship level. .
Will be watching with interest to see if he can break into saints first team but for me if we want to continue to improve we need better players in for the key roles in the team.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 2 Jun 21:29
What`s more relevant - current form or past form, which in his case was affected by a series of injuries? You just can`t hide your prejudices.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 2 Jun 22:43
VEE, I think it was the Scottish Cup that St Johnstone won in 2014, not the League Cup.
Otherwise I agree with your post - Matty seems to have a two-year deal, probably on a financial package at least as good as what was on offer at DAFC, and for at least one (and possibly both) of those seasons he`ll be playing in the Premiership.
I might agree that Pars SHOULD be a "bigger" club and a more attractive proposition for an ambitious young player, but at this point in Matty`s career we`re not.
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Tue 2 Jun 23:26
It`s 58 years not 68 Veteran ... and Pars are a better prospect than St Johnstone over the next few years in my opinion. Shame that Matty (through his agent) chose Perth, Matty is a genuine Pars fan.
Post Edited (Tue 02 Jun 23:27)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 2 Jun 23:46
Bottom line ,they play top devision we dont ,Matty wants to play at higher level ,no brainer
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Wed 3 Jun 00:16
Good luck to him, and it`s clearly his decision, and he`s prepared to make the jump and play in the top flight next season. If he does well, who knows where he ends up!
Any talk of a `fall out` ....well he is a professional football player, the manager is a professional football manager and he makes the decision at the time. Matty clearly got the finger out.
We move on, I think we will recruit well, the manager and his staff will like last season do a really thorough pre season training ( I think this was crucial last season)
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Wed 3 Jun 04:46
I appreciate we need better players to progress but I also believe that we should be developing the players that we already have that can be developed. Matty Todd is a player that can be developed. I am sure he will be a better player next season than he was this season. He seemed to work hard this season, as did Chris Hamilton. Two players we should have done more to keep. I certainly would have prioritised them rather than offer Bene a new contract although I obviously don’t know the terms (but he’s not exactly “a prospect for the future”).
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 3 Jun 07:02
Quote:
DunPar, Wed 3 Jun 04:46
I appreciate we need better players to progress but I also believe that we should be developing the players that we already have that can be developed. Matty Todd is a player that can be developed. I am sure he will be a better player next season than he was this season. He seemed to work hard this season, as did Chris Hamilton. Two players we should have done more to keep. I certainly would have prioritised them rather than offer Bene a new contract although I obviously don’t know the terms (but he’s not exactly “a prospect for the future”).
Bear in mind it’s us that’s developed him to get a move into the SPL, and what more would you have expected us to do to try and keep him? It’s been advised we made him a substantial offer, if he doesn’t want to stay you can’t do much about it and whilst would like him to have around I don’t think he’s irreplaceable.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 3 Jun 08:33
Quote:
Stanza, Tue 2 Jun 22:43
VEE, I think it was the Scottish Cup that St Johnstone won in 2014, not the League Cup.
Otherwise I agree with your post - Matty seems to have a two-year deal, probably on a financial package at least as good as what was on offer at DAFC, and for at least one (and possibly both) of those seasons he`ll be playing in the Premiership.
I might agree that Pars SHOULD be a "bigger" club and a more attractive proposition for an ambitious young player, but at this point in Matty`s career we`re not.
Correct, my bad - League Cup 2020-21, Scottish Cup 2013-14 and 2020-21. Well spotted.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 3 Jun 08:37
Quote:
DAPAR, Tue 2 Jun 23:26
It`s 58 years not 68 Veteran ... and Pars are a better prospect than St Johnstone over the next few years in my opinion. Shame that Matty (through his agent) chose Perth, Matty is a genuine Pars fan.
Correct, 58 years, well corrected.
We need to get into the SPL soonest to compare progress - and that will be a challenge.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 3 Jun 09:00
He did well for us, really likeable player but we have to move on.
I am excited to see who takes his place in the team but would want to see the likes of Bray step up and stake a claim for a starting spot in the team.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 3 Jun 09:44
Some posts on this thread are quite weird tbh
COYP
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:02
Quote:
DunPar, Wed 3 Jun 04:46
I appreciate we need better players to progress but I also believe that we should be developing the players that we already have that can be developed. Matty Todd is a player that can be developed. I am sure he will be a better player next season than he was this season. He seemed to work hard this season, as did Chris Hamilton. Two players we should have done more to keep. I certainly would have prioritised them rather than offer Bene a new contract although I obviously don’t know the terms (but he’s not exactly “a prospect for the future”).
Also worth noting that the manager preferred to play a centre half in midfield over Chris Hamilton on more than one occasion. League One is a good level for him, and signing for a team that will dominate possession should suit him as well.Sometimes we need to separate sentiment from reality and move on.
Matty Todd had a good second half of the season, but he struggled in the first half. If he wanted higher wages, and that potentially would have taken away from improving key areas such as goalkeeper (especially when we have Kearney to cover at right back) then maybe it just didn’t add up for us to meet his demands.
Fair play to him for moving on, but as a club we need to move on as well.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
Post Edited (Wed 03 Jun 10:02)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:15
It’s probably best Todd moves and he’s looking for a fresh start somewhere which is understandable.
Bray won’t be the one to step up and replace Todd next season, we need to sign proven players to replace the regulars who will be leaving.
Also find it strange how he’s chose St Johnstone over other teams when in reality there’s a very good chance they could be relegated and is promoted next season.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:20
Like others I`m a bit disappointed that Todd has gone to St Johnstone. I`m also disappointed that we don`t get a fee for him, but them`s the breaks.
He`ll have considered a lot of things before making his decision. going to St Johnstone means he can play at a higher level, but will be able to stay in the same house where he`s probably quite settled (I know nothing of his personal circumstances).
Moving to England means a lot more than just pulling a different shirt on, and maybe he wasn`t up for it. Have you seen the house prices down there?????
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:26
lol at wee eck all over thread!
Re the current form vs previous form - your happy to take matty based on current form rather than previous where he was awful last season but when defending McCann you kept going on about his form at the start of the season despite 4 months not scoring or contributing anything, he was just about to come good for years.
A walking contrarian who spends all day trying to score points on .net. How embarrassing.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:31
Oh you`re hating it that he`s got a move to the top flight 😆 🤣 😂
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:44
Are we due a "development " fee or is he too old for that?
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 3 Jun 10:49
Too old, it`s 23yr old, Toddy`s 24
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 3 Jun 11:04
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 2 Jun 21:17
Not bothered by this in the slightest but then again my judgement isn’t clouded by whether a player is a pars fan or not, I just go with what I have seen.
Had a good 2nd half of the season for us but was murder the season before and was never a stand out in a team that consistently struggled at championship level. .
Will be watching with interest to see if he can break into saints first team but for me if we want to continue to improve we need better players in for the key roles in the team.
That hardly makes a player though, imagine if psg didnt take a punt on dembele, or liverpool on salah, or mctominay at napoli, or prime example modric at real as after his first season he was voted worst signing, look how that turned out eh
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 3 Jun 11:04
`A walking contrarian who spends all day trying to score points on .net. How embarrassing.`
I wish I could walk and spend all day on the internet at the same time but I`m certainly not embarrassed.
If you must revert to your old obsession with Lewis McCann, he is now with an English League 2 club and has just had his contract extended despite missing the second half of the season with a serious injury.
The fact is, despite yoiur assessment of their ability, both these players have impressed somebody within the professional game sufficiently to give them an opportunity in a League ranked above the Scottish Championship. If you were involved in professional football I don`t think you`d give anybody a chance who had played at a lower level. Guys like Barney Stewart and Josh Cooper would just stagnate.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 3 Jun 11:18
Todd is an inconsistent performer, which is to be expected for the level we have played at in the last decade.
Now he is 24 and gone up to the big time in this country, it’s a chance for him to either make it, or break it and drop back down. The only way anyone will know is to let him go and see what happens.
Wish him all the best, and do hope St Johnstone keep him as a RB/RWB as think he is better there than in the middle of the park.
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Topic Originator: Kpar2
Date: Wed 3 Jun 11:44
This is not sour grapes just a observation I noticed this season! I thought Todd was a decent player who gave his all but there was alot of games his corners were p*** poor and his final box in the box was poor. I had no conference in his delivery at all . I genuinely don`t think its a big deal he never signed back on .
Keep ur chin up!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 3 Jun 11:59
The fact is he was 4th in the `Assists` stats for the season in the Championship with 8. Robbie Fraser had 7 btw.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Wed 3 Jun 12:27
Matty is no longer a Dunfermline player. Let`s move on.
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Topic Originator: Kpar2
Date: Wed 3 Jun 14:52
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 3 Jun 11:59
The fact is he was 4th in the `Assists` stats for the season in the Championship with 8. Robbie Fraser had 7 btw.
Yes but there was numerous times in games he should have done better but couldn`t get the ball past the 1st man!! He should have had more thats all im saying 👍
Keep ur chin up!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 3 Jun 14:57
You could say that about most players in the Championship. What about that old adage - `the table doesn`t lie`?
There are some interesting stats about Pars` players last season in a feature on COWS - `That was the season that was`.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 3 Jun 16:58
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 3 Jun 14:57
You could say that about most players in the Championship. What about that old adage - `the table doesn`t lie`?
There are some interesting stats about Pars` players last season in a feature on COWS - `That was the season that was`.
To be fair his crossing was very unpredictable......
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 3 Jun 17:17
Saints are currently a bigger club than us. He has moved up a league, will be on more money, against better players.
Absolute no brainer for him
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 3 Jun 17:43
Please stop having a dig at Matty. He`s been a loyal servant and he`s more than entitled to sign for whatever club he chooses. He`ll get a nice signing on fee, a pay rise and a chance to play top flight football every week if he performs well. He more than deserves that chance and I wish him all the best.
Hopefully he keeps getting better and who knows, maybe he returns to us in 3 or 4 years time if we get promoted and establish ourselves in the SPL. Either way he`ll always have a place in a lot of our hearts. St Johnstone have been an SPL team for years until last years relegation which they convincingly turned around. They won a cup double not too long ago which is an amazing achievement and have finished in the top 6 more times than us, so enough with the `bigger club snobbery`. It`s childish and unwarranted.
Good luck Matty 👍.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 3 Jun 17:48
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Wed 3 Jun 16:58
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 3 Jun 14:57
You could say that about most players in the Championship. What about that old adage - `the table doesn`t lie`?
There are some interesting stats about Pars` players last season in a feature on COWS - `That was the season that was`.
To be fair his crossing was very unpredictable......
Surely you don’t want predictable crossing? Defenders having a field day?
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 3 Jun 18:01
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 3 Jun 17:48
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Wed 3 Jun 16:58
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 3 Jun 14:57
You could say that about most players in the Championship. What about that old adage - `the table doesn`t lie`?
There are some interesting stats about Pars` players last season in a feature on COWS - `That was the season that was`.
To be fair his crossing was very unpredictable......
Surely you don’t want predictable crossing? Defenders having a field day?
Past the first min more often than not would have been useful.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 3 Jun 18:54
Nobody told Simo!
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Wed 3 Jun 20:16
Ok - I just don’t want to be be pissed off when we sign some third rate 32 year old journeyman to replace him that has no connection and no interest in putting a shift in for DAFC like Toddy did in the second half of the season. (But if Lennon happened to find another Bobby Smith……)
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 3 Jun 21:31
Quote:
DunPar, Wed 3 Jun 20:16
Ok - I just don’t want to be be pissed off when we sign some third rate 32 year old journeyman to replace him that has no connection and no interest in putting a shift in for DAFC like Toddy did in the second half of the season. (But if Lennon happened to find another Bobby Smith……)
In fairness that`s not the model the new owners seem to be following
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Topic Originator: Ronaldo
Date: Wed 3 Jun 22:34
All the best Matty and thanks for the memories. Here are just three ... that audacious goal you scored from inside your own half against Clyde at Hamilton in October 2022. your seamless swivel and shot to fire home (in your comeback?) at Firhill in March 2024. and, of course, your unforgettable opener against Aberdeen this season. Hope to see you back here one day.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Thu 4 Jun 07:09
Quote:
Bandy, Wed 3 Jun 21:31
Quote:
DunPar, Wed 3 Jun 20:16
Ok - I just don’t want to be be pissed off when we sign some third rate 32 year old journeyman to replace him that has no connection and no interest in putting a shift in for DAFC like Toddy did in the second half of the season. (But if Lennon happened to find another Bobby Smith……)
In fairness that`s not the model the new owners seem to be following
Wanyama
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Thu 4 Jun 07:33
Ahh yess the one that was a panic buy because there wasn’t anything out there at that time it’s like looking and saying aw well every striker we get is gonna be Barney Stewart
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 4 Jun 08:14
The sooner the WC starts the better - then attention will veer away from this sterile ongoing focus on Todd.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 4 Jun 08:40
Wanyama was a marketing signing, convinced of it.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
Post Edited (Thu 04 Jun 13:18)
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 4 Jun 13:26
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
I`m intrigued by your inside knowledge, Salton. How do you know he was offered a "great deal?" And do you think it was a better (and longer) contract than that offered by Saints?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 4 Jun 13:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
What`s your point? He`s a footballer maximising his career at a higher level. Fair play to him.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: incognito
Date: Thu 4 Jun 13:54
Riva
MT was offered a deal that would of made him one of the highest players at the club, with the likes of Fraser being on £200kish a year its not difficult to see that the offer would of been great.
Irrespective Matty Todd has to do what`s best for him, his family and his bank account. There is no sentiment in business as too loyalties. He was surplus to requirements 6 months ago and told to find a new club but turned is fortunes around and hit the level we all know he was capable of and is now reaping the rewards for his efforts.
Well done to him! A great servant and top player who will flourish with better players around him.
"Did you see what happened to the magic car?
It turned into a street!"
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 4 Jun 13:56
Matty Todd has rejected a new contract offer from Dunfermline Athletic and is set to depart the club. He knocked back a substantial deal that would have made him one of the Pars` top earners, opting instead to seek a fresh challenge and step up to the Premiership. From the Courier
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 4 Jun 14:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 4 Jun 13:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
What`s your point? He`s a footballer maximising his career at a higher level. Fair play to him.
My point is Matty Todd chose to leave the Pars, we made him a vey attractive offer , yet still chose to leave , we wish him well,but it was purely his decision to leave .
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 4 Jun 15:11
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 14:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 4 Jun 13:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
What`s your point? He`s a footballer maximising his career at a higher level. Fair play to him.
My point is Matty Todd chose to leave the Pars, we made him a vey attractive offer , yet still chose to leave , we wish him well,but it was purely his decision to leave .
I`m still not sure what you`re getting at. The club made it quite clear he turned down a good deal. It was always going to be his decision as he was out of contract, which we all knew.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 4 Jun 15:25
Quote:
incognito, Thu 4 Jun 13:54
Riva
MT was offered a deal that would of made him one of the highest players at the club, with the likes of Fraser being on £200kish a year its not difficult to see that the offer would of been great.
Right, so we don`t know the exact details, only that he was offered a deal that would have made him one of the highest earners at the club, so not to be sniffed at.
I`m going to suggest that Saints made him a better offer, perhaps a bigger basic wage, a longer contract and maybe even a decent signing on fee. The Pars probably decided, quite rightly, that they didn`t want to get into an auction, so he`s away.
I don`t blame either Matty or the club. He has to maximise his earnings in a short career and the Pars need to work within a specific budget.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Thu 4 Jun 15:39
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 4 Jun 15:25
Quote:
incognito, Thu 4 Jun 13:54
Riva
MT was offered a deal that would of made him one of the highest players at the club, with the likes of Fraser being on £200kish a year its not difficult to see that the offer would of been great.
Right, so we don`t know the exact details, only that he was offered a deal that would have made him one of the highest earners at the club, so not to be sniffed at.
I`m going to suggest that Saints made him a better offer, perhaps a bigger basic wage, a longer contract and maybe even a decent signing on fee. The Pars probably decided, quite rightly, that they didn`t want to get into an auction, so he`s away.
I don`t blame either Matty or the club. He has to maximise his earnings in a short career and the Pars need to work within a specific budget.
The 2 offers were pretty similar but as I said on an earlier post
"There was a big clash at the start of season which both parties eventually ironed out to benefit each other
A good offer was made but the issues that were there at the start of the season were still simmering underneath and the decision had already been made up in his head
He was always going to try his best till he left because of his love for the club, but he knew he was going to leave"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 4 Jun 15:43
Wait Fraser is on almost 4K per week? That can’t be right?
There’s surely no way we’ve offered matty Todd a contract at 3-4K a week.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 4 Jun 16:12
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 4 Jun 13:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
What`s your point? He`s a footballer maximising his career at a higher level. Fair play to him.
This.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 4 Jun 16:25
Quote:
Berkey, Thu 4 Jun 15:43
Wait Fraser is on almost 4K per week? That can’t be right?
There’s surely no way we’ve offered matty Todd a contract at 3-4K a week.
I agree. Surely no way either of those players are on that sort of money. Bang average players
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 4 Jun 17:42
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 4 Jun 15:11
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 14:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 4 Jun 13:51
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 4 Jun 13:17
Matty Todd was offered a great deal by the Pars HE chose not to sign it , and has moved on, yes he was loved by most of the support especially the younger ones , but he has chosen to play for St Johnstone
What`s your point? He`s a footballer maximising his career at a higher level. Fair play to him.
My point is Matty Todd chose to leave the Pars, we made him a vey attractive offer , yet still chose to leave , we wish him well,but it was purely his decision to leave .
I`m still not sure what you`re getting at. The club made it quite clear he turned down a good deal. It was always going to be his decision as he was out of contract, which we all knew.
The point is he has moved on maybe we need to do the same.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 4 Jun 17:43
Yeah, definitely think it’s a good idea for adults to move on from a 24 year olds career choice. This thread is scary.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Thu 4 Jun 20:39
We all need to move on, Matty is no longer a Dunfermline
Athletic player. We should be paying attention to the
players that are still with us and what players that might
be coming in.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 4 Jun 23:25
Folk in here talking like their birds left them for the next door neighbour
COYP
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Sun 7 Jun 10:15
“Folk in here talking like their birds left them for the next door neighbour”
That’s exactly how I felt when Ian McCall left us when he went to rangers….I’m over it now though (just about)……I’ve found that time is a great healer.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 7 Jun 10:36
Agree, stj are bigger than us, but depends on how you measure it. They are in a higher league than us and beat us last season. However I believe we have far higher potential, we just to keep moving on, must win league this year.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 7 Jun 12:35
Quote:
thebear, Sun 7 Jun 10:36
Agree, stj are bigger than us, but depends on how you measure it. They are in a higher league than us and beat us last season. However I believe we have far higher potential, we just to keep moving on, must win league this year.
You must have missed the game up in Perth?
A glorious Robbie Fraser goal!⚽️
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 7 Jun 13:01
We can all identify with Matty because we`re all Pars` fans too but we don`t have the talent to play for our favourite team. We all know how insecure and short a career in football can be but some of us are envious that we don`t have the chance of playing for our team at a time when we`ve just reached the Cup Final for the first time in 19 years, have owners who seem to recognise the potential of the club and we may be on the cusp of returning to the top tier of Scottish football.
We`re putting ourselves in Matty`s boots and thinking `Would I give up this opportunity to be part of the club`s progress if given the chance?` We don`t feel the same way about other players who may leave because we know they don`t have the same emotional attachment to the club that we do. Maybe we`re being hypocritical and unfair to Matty in thinking we might make a different choice but, if he`s comfortable with his, that`s the main thing.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 7 Jun 13:18
If I’m Todd I could quite easily see myself signing for st Johnstone too. You can’t be emotional about career decisions and the opportunity to play at a higher level, and the potential future opportunities that platform can provide is quite hard to turn down.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 7 Jun 14:12
Quote:
Topic Originator: DunPar like
Date: Sun 7 Jun 10:15
“Folk in here talking like their birds left them for the next door neighbour”
That’s exactly how I felt when Ian McCall left us when he went to rangers….I’m over it now though (just about)……I’ve found that time is a great healer.
McCall was reluctant to go, he loved playing for the Pars and it was only when Rangers upped the cash for him and the club he was persuaded to go.
It still hurts losing him, I`d have the ace over the 4 kings any day.
Post Edited (Sun 07 Jun 14:14)
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sun 7 Jun 14:42
There`s been far too much said on this post. Enough.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 7 Jun 15:55
Quote:
Jock Par36, Sun 7 Jun 14:42
There`s been far too much said on this post. Enough.
Surely that`s up to other dotnetters, Jock? If they want to express their tuppence worth on the subject, why do you want to censor it?
It is the close season, and there`s not much happening other than some bloated tournament where you have to stay up in the middle of the night to watch various mismatches and other games between no hopers.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sun 07 Jun 15:55)
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sun 7 Jun 21:34
Fair enough Riva
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 7 Jun 22:57
Aahh, you`re just saying that cos Italy didn`t make it GG 😊
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 8 Jun 06:09
Quote:
Paralex, Sun 7 Jun 22:57
Aahh, you`re just saying that cos Italy didn`t make it GG 😊
Many a true word, Paralex.....
I`m actually getting used to Italy failing to make the WC finals. Italy`s last appearance was Brazil 2014, and they contrived to be eliminated (along with England 😁) by Uruguay and Costa Rica - something I predicted on this forum.
This year, I still have Scotland to support. Hopefully, we`ll finally get out of the group.... 🤞
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Thu 11 Jun 09:00
Has anyone actually seen anything official from St Johnstone to say he is signing for them??
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 11 Jun 10:06
Quote:
neilholland999, Thu 11 Jun 09:00
Has anyone actually seen anything official from St Johnstone to say he is signing for them??
Nope, but based on Matty`s Instagram he is currently still on holiday.
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Thu 11 Jun 10:51
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 8 Jun 06:09
Quote:
Paralex, Sun 7 Jun 22:57
Aahh, you`re just saying that cos Italy didn`t make it GG 😊
Many a true word, Paralex.....
I`m actually getting used to Italy failing to make the WC finals. Italy`s last appearance was Brazil 2014, and they contrived to be eliminated (along with England 😁) by Uruguay and Costa Rica - something I predicted on this forum.
This year, I still have Scotland to support. Hopefully, we`ll finally get out of the group.... 🤞
You also predicted Brazil would destroy Germany though.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Jun 16:32
Quote:
Aaron Labonte, Thu 11 Jun 10:51
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 8 Jun 06:09
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Paralex, Sun 7 Jun 22:57
Aahh, you`re just saying that cos Italy didn`t make it GG 😊
Many a true word, Paralex.....
I`m actually getting used to Italy failing to make the WC finals. Italy`s last appearance was Brazil 2014, and they contrived to be eliminated (along with England 😁) by Uruguay and Costa Rica - something I predicted on this forum.
This year, I still have Scotland to support. Hopefully, we`ll finally get out of the group.... 🤞
You also predicted Brazil would destroy Germany though.
You`ve got a decent memory, Aaron, but I`m pretty certain I didn`t use the word "destroy", although I did think that, with home advantage, Brazil would have gone through. Their main man at the back, Thiago Silva, lost his discipline when the Germans took the lead and started playing as a striker, with catastrophic results.
Eta. Surely predicting that the top seeds would exit the group is more worthy than getting the result of a single game wrong? 🤔
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jun 16:37)
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 11 Jun 17:38
Now confirmed at St. Johnstone!
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Thu 11 Jun 17:39
Thiago Silva didn`t play against Germany, he was suspended
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 11 Jun 17:49
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Thu 11 Jun 17:39
Thiago Silva didn`t play against Germany, he was suspended[/quote
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Correct, JF. My bad. 😔 It was David Luiz I was thinking of.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 11 Jun 19:03
Matty on SJ`s website -
`This is a club with great aspirations and I’m really delighted to be a part of that.I’ve had a few calls with the gaffer, who told me everything about the club. It all appealed to me so much, and I just could not turn this down.I’ll look to bring a lot of energy, drive and quality in the final third. I want to produce moments that help the team win games.I’ve seen the quality within the squad already and I know I’ll need to hit the ground running in pre-season to get in the gaffer’s plans straight away.`
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 11 Jun 20:56
Quote:
DunPar, Sun 7 Jun 10:15
“Folk in here talking like their birds left them for the next door neighbour”
That’s exactly how I felt when Ian McCall left us when he went to rangers….I’m over it now though (just about)……I’ve found that time is a great healer.
🤣
COYP
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Topic Originator: Kaiser
Date: Thu 11 Jun 21:52
Once told by Mr Lennon he wasn’t in his plans and to find himself another club halfway through the season, there was NO WAY he was staying at Dunfermline.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 11 Jun 22:00
Quote:
Kaiser, Thu 11 Jun 21:52
Once told by Mr Lennon he wasn’t in his plans and to find himself another club halfway through the season, there was NO WAY he was staying at Dunfermline.
Bollocks
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 11 Jun 22:07
I think Kaiser is referring to the club advising that Matty was free to leave. But he worked his way back into the team.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Jun 06:30
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 11 Jun 22:00
Quote:
Kaiser, Thu 11 Jun 21:52
Once told by Mr Lennon he wasn’t in his plans and to find himself another club halfway through the season, there was NO WAY he was staying at Dunfermline.
Bollocks
I think whatever NL said or did clearly worked for him, so it had a positive outcome for him. Different people are motivated in different ways and NL seems to have the knack of finding that. Todd has decided to move on. No doubt we will.
G Wardrope
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