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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 18:52
Here`s tonight`s lineup:-
Oxborough
Abdulai
Shaw
Amade
Oyirwoth
Bray
Lobban
Donnelly
Tod A
Fraser (C)
Adams
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SUBS:
Dibaga
Tod J
Gilmour
Rudden
Kearney
McLeod
Thomas
Corbally
Kane
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 18:57
Ye just beat me to it đ
Just in from a wee road trip to Dunkeld with my big sister. Tis a nice evening and braw for the fitbaw.
Mon the Pars!
âBuffyâs Buns are the finest in Fifeâ, J. Spence 2019â
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:15
Shaw in for McLeod. Adams on the wing.
We look pretty solid.
COYP
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:26
When was the last time the Pars and the Wee Team played a game where the winner goes top of the league? I am absolutely buzzing for this!!!
COYP!
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:32
Our Wreath layer looks awful wearing a grey jacket - really shouldâve been wearing black!
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:33
Martin Hardie game ?
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:39
Pitch looks a lot better on the TV, than the last one
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:43
Stevenson is one dirty wee bastyrt
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:47
Not been a great start. Weâve given away possession often.
Lobban v Tiffoney battle will be crucial
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 19:53
Adams has had a bit of a shocker first 20. Hopefully gets better.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:06
When will one of these twa*s get booked đ”âđ«
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:07
When will one of these twa*s get booked đ”âđ«
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:10
Wow, how does Fraser get a yellow for that after all the dirty stuff from RR. Wasn`t even a foul.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:10
Thats the worst decision Ive ever seenâŠâŠand shock we get a booking for a perfect tackle.
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:10
Adams having a stinker
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:11
get Adams off the wing
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:11
What an embarrassing refereeing decision to book Fraser. Absolutely embarrassing.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:12
No wonder Lennon loses his đ©
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:15
Only the wee team could manage to find someone even more injury prone than Dowds
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Johanisk
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:16
Adams has been quite poor.
Happily take nil nil at half time.
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:21
A toothless first half
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:22
Quote:
wetherby, Fri 6 Nov 20:11
get Adams off the wing
Just off will do!
Stinking
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:22
Can barely get the ball past the half way line.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:29
Shaw really needs to start moving.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:32
yet another 45 without a shot on target we are carrying too many passengers who lack creative technique
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:34
Adamâs is a hit or a miss, mostly the latter.
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Topic Originator: Donkerpar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:42
We have no focal point up front. Nobody to hold the ball up and distribute it.
Weâre more or less relying on someone producing a moment of inspiration.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:44
Is this referee a Raith fan?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:45
Shaw`s a bit soft.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:46
every move is breaking down at Adams
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Topic Originator: adampar1
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:50
Canât understand why Adams is still on. Itâs been like playing with a man short. Heâs been dreadful
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:52
Quote:
wetherby, Fri 6 Nov 20:46
every move is breaking down at Adams
He needs to come off.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:53
That booking should make the decision for the gaffer. Time for Adams to come off.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:57
Quote:
Big T Par, Fri 6 Nov 19:39
Pitch looks a lot better on the TV, than the last one
Not working well with Oyirwoth`s boots....falling over a few times.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:58
Whole team is off it tonight. Leaving Adams on has baffled me though. Hope im wrong but we`ve offered zero up top again.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:58
You can see where this heading, a late Rovers winnerâŠ..
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:58
Need Kane, Thomas and Corbally on.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:58
Adams not even looking when he plays they silly wee balls and back heels.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Nov 20:59
From hero to zero doesn`t take long.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:01
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 6 Nov 20:59
From hero to zero doesn`t take long.
Eck, he just beat himself there ffs
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:02
Got to see Kane soon. We donât want to be sucker punched here.
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:02
70 minutes not a single shot on target. So disjointed all over the pitch and even less threatening this half, if that`s possible.
Not happening tonight for a number of individuals and as a team.
Hope we can knick something but looks like 0-0 a good result tonight so far.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:03
Sometimes I wonder about Lennon.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:05
Quote:
Clapham Par, Fri 6 Nov 21:02
70 minutes not a single shot on target. So disjointed all over the pitch and even less threatening this half, if that`s possible.
Not happening tonight for a number of individuals and as a team.
Hope we can knick something but looks like 0-0 a good result tonight so far.
Agreed but like the home game - grab a goal & happy days đđŒ
"It`s there for the taking, yeah!"
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: Johanisk
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:05
How has Adams not been subbed there?
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:05
Hink, I`ll stick the rugby on. Utter guff
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Topic Originator: Zoltan
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:06
Both teams are awful.
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Topic Originator: Johanisk
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:07
Quote:
Zoltan, Fri 6 Nov 21:06
Both teams are awful.
I feel sorry for Faddy having to pick a man of the match out of this pure mince of a game.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:08
Unless Amade is gutted not sure why he came off - playing steadily.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:10
Wtf has John, other Grandson of God, done to his hair!!
Awful cut đ€đ€Łđ
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:10
Terrible advert for the league that a game where the winners go top is this bad. Barely a sniff of goal for either team in nearly 80 minutes of football
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:17
Cracking save from Thomasâ shot!
âBuffyâs Buns are the finest in Fifeâ, J. Spence 2019â
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Topic Originator: Parnott
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:19
This would get football stopped. đŽđŽ
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:20
How is that no a penalty? Heâs surely taking the p***?
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:20
Adams oh dear!! Should have been off pitch at half time.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:22
When you see some of the fouls that are given outside the box...
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:22
Ref`s a riddy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:23
That free kick sums it up. What an utter waste of time that was.
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Topic Originator: tentonhammers
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:25
Christ this wasn`t worth sitting in someone else`s seat for.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:26
The ref is unbelievable
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:27
Quote:
Bandy, Fri 6 Nov 21:26
The ref is unbelievable
Utter c*ckwomble.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
That is the WORST referee we`ve EVER had!!!
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
That referee was a disgrace.
Minimum 4 minutes injury time at the end and as we break away before the 4 minutes is up, he decides thatâs full time?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
That ref is pathetic. Lennon furious at the free kick not been given in the dying minutes. He needs to watch himself imo.
âBuffyâs Buns are the finest in Fifeâ, J. Spence 2019â
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
Refs had a howler tonight, as have we. A point will have to do but we were just as poor as that lot
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
Wasn`t even the full 4 minutes of injury time and the ref blew with a Pars attack on.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:28
That`s exactly what happened. Unbelievable.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:29
That should his last game as a referee
Embarrassing
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:29
Where do they find these officials, utter utter brutal and clueless đ
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:29
Ref was murder, and to think he officiates most of his games in the top tier.
You take a point away from home but still disappointed in the performance, we created very little.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:30
Every week we seem to get the worst referee ever!
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:30
Adams must score after Thomas gets wiped out. What must Kane be thinking not getting on for Adams
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:31
A point is a point I suppose. The sort of game where you couldnae argue either team deserved even that.
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:32
Exactly what i thought, who cares what`s going on around you just stick it in the net and he scuffs it, like he did all night. Excellent last week but just not showed up this week.
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:32
A decent point overall. Scrappy game. Referee was terrible as usual. Blew full time early to top it off.
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:35
That referee should be demoted with immediate effect. How that wasnât a penalty is beyond me. Rovers fouling at every opportunity and surprise surprise the first yellow shown is to our player. Worst referee performance I have seen in a long timeđĄ
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:36
Not enough quality in the game for either side to win it. Referee was poor. Three late challenges by RR players nobody booked. Robbie Fraser puts in a good tackle and gets booked. I would be challenging that one.
RR stopped us playing chased us down and followed up second balls. No real chances from either side. Ollie Thomas/Adams maybe a penalty at tge end, but the way the refereeing was going it was too big a call.
A point and extended the unbeaten run. We stood up better to them this time.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:36
Topic Originator: Parnott like
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:19
This would get football stopped. đŽđŽ
Correct Parnott .. has to be the worst display of football in any game I have seen and I have been watching for over 68 years .. that would get football stopped
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:38
Anything about this game the ref was brutal! Raith players should have received 3/4 yellows in the 1st half.. worst ref I have seen for 4 years..
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:38
Poor, poor stuff. Agree with most, Adams is nowhere near good enough.
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:41
Adams is really inconsistent, but I think he will continue to be played.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:41
Kane scores 2 goals against Bonnyrigg and complains heâs coming off and a no show tonight??
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:44
Kane scored a penalty at Bonnyrigg and that was it.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:50
Surprised that Adams got the full game when we still had Kane & Rudden on the bench.
Still, a clean sheet, a point away, unbeaten run continues & we`re joint top, for a few hours anyway!
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Topic Originator: tentonhammers
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:51
Lennon ensuring that Celtic choose someone else to replace O`Neill and then we`ll turn it on later. 4D chess stuff.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:57
What a roughhouse of a game that was from the first minute Millen took out Andy Tod to the last Rovers were playing to the Imrie game plan.
Both teams poor Thomas with a decent shot was the only one in the 90 minutes on target,then taken out by the keeper and the loose ball falls to Adams and he scuffs it past the post with goal wide open.
As for the referee where do they get them from,take the point and move on but oh dear that was a sore watch.
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Topic Originator: cfad
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:58
Not a great game, teams cancelled each other out, but a point away from home. Presently joint top after a very slow start to the season, and a big unbeaten run. Form on the up overall, letâs keep pushing!
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 21:59
I don`t think we created enough to bring on Kane to give him a chance. Balls into the box were poor or blocked by the RR defence.
Ollie Thomas needs more game time. I would be giving him more minutes. It wasn`t a game for Shaw tonight so not surprised he was substituted.
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Topic Originator: Taxipar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:03
100% the referees try to get a reaction from Lennon and that needs looking at
A par since 1985
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:04
Kane would struggle on that pitch. Both teams were rank rotten and so was the ref.Joint top hopefully no fresh injuries but it was a tough watch.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:13
Agree with everyone else - the ref was terrible. Typical niggly and dirty Imrie side looking to break up and stop play whenever they can. Many more bookings could have been handed out to RR players. The yellow for Fraser`s good tackle was ridiculous and their keeper took out Thomas at the end at the edge of the box with what should have been either a penalty or free kick at the edge of the box. I would have liked Corbally to have come on as his corners and passing are good. He also scored a nice goal against Inverness and played well on Tuesday night. Shaw had little impact, but to be fair he didn`t get much service. Corbally might have provided some balls in he could have attacked. Not one of the best Pars performances tonight but RR offered little from an attacking sense and were able to frustrate and break up play (often by fouling) with help from a useless ref.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:13
Ref was a joke - wtf was Robbie`s booking for?!
Pen all day long on Thomas at the end.
Overall tho - poor game - take the point & move on.
Spiders fans tomorrow - mon the black n white đđđŒ
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:15
Terrible game. Raith offered nothing at all. We weren`t much better apart from Thomas shot and Adams has to score. Looked better when JT came on (think we switched to 3 at the back with Lobban/McLeod more like wing backs)
The one positive for me was we had a bench full of players that you wouldn`t bat an eyelid if they started whereas Oakley and Dowds look done and they have absolutely nothing in reserve.
I think we have as good a chance of winning the league as anyone. Swap Thomas/Kane/Rudden for Adams and we`ll be strong all over the pitch.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:15
Pretty brutal second half, ref lost the plot. Big thing was I thought our lads stood up well to the physicality of Raith. They got stuck in, fair play to them for that.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:17
One win in nine years. Itâs not been a happy hunting ground. Take the point and move on.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:18
Quote:
xgatespars, Fri 6 Nov 21:20
Adams oh dear!! Should have been off pitch at half time.
I donât think heâs got the goods.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:19
The ref was a disgrace really - allowed their time wasting and back chat to last the full 90 minutes, mot to mention their cynical fouling, soon as we do it the cards come out.
The pen decision would be cleared by VAR as Rae gets the slightest of slight nicks on ball, despite him poleaxing Thomas - but in real time with no VAR, its a poor decision - theres no way the ref, or lino, seen that touchâŠâŠ
We werenât at the races today, but a point away from home v Raith and 11 unbeaten is a fine place to be in - Id much rather be there with our squad than in Rovers situation.
Macleod looked good when he came on, dame with Thomas.
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:20
What they were successful in doing was stopping us playing. They won`t win the league with that style of play. Add to the mix older squad, players with injuries or injury prone, and they may be lucky to make the playoffs.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:22
That was a perfect advert for getting rid of plastic pitches out of the top 2 divisions in Scottish football, players slipping all over the place almost impossible to stop and turn with the ball , and this is allegedly a brand new pitch.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:22
Forcing Adams into the starting 11 every week is holding us back. He isnât ready to be a starter.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:33
Was as expected a very cagey game with so much at stake.
Adamâs staying on the park was bizarre and Kane staying off it equally so.
The ref was an utter joke throughout and to blow full time when we were through was disgraceful when the 4 minutes wernât up.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PĂ€ckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:37
Where to even start with that. Rovers killed any chance of a football match with their antics as usual, just a team full of horrible b*stards from top to bottom.
Absolutely beyond belief that Adams has started 11 games in a row, heâs atrocious and genuinely looks like a competition winner 99% of the time heâs on the ball. 4 back heels attempted - 4 times rovers regained possession. The kind of thing Lennon should be raging about.
The ref was hopeless aswell, every drop ball went to rovers regardless of who had the ball when play was stopped. Frasers yellow was a perfect tackle, not a single raith player even claimed for a foul. The challenge on Thomas at the end is a penalty all day long aswell!
A difficult night but a point isnât a terrible result. We really need more creativity up top, itâs just not happening at the minute.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:44
Adams reminds me of Yeboah. Runs around a lot but doesnât do anything with it.
These dafts flicks and passes to no one needs sorted.
Got what we deserved tonight. Still unbeaten and move on.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 6 Nov 22:51
Lennon had to hold his tongue in post match presser and cited his midweek suspension. He must have been furious.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:02
It`s weird that the reason given for not awarding a pen was that the keeper got a touch on the ball. Outfield players make tackles all over the pitch and `get a touch` on the ball but get penalised just the same eg Robbie Fraser`s tackle.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:05
The tough was after the contact with the player mind you
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:13
Donât think anyone else has mentioned this and I seemed to be the only person to have seen it at the time. Off the ball raith cb deliberately elbows shaw. Red card all day long.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:19
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NikNakPar, Fri 6 Nov 23:13
Donât think anyone else has mentioned this and I seemed to be the only person to have seen it at the time. Off the ball raith cb deliberately elbows shaw. Red card all day long.
I seen it. A player doesnât go down with a burst nose from nothing. Ref and linesman completely clueless all night.
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Topic Originator: Paralytic77
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:19
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Fri 6 Nov 21:50
Surprised that Adams got the full game when we still had Kane & Rudden on the bench.
Still, a clean sheet, a point away, unbeaten run continues & we`re joint top, for a few hours anyway!
Kanes chocolate, no way Lennon was playing him on that surface
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:24
Adams and Allan were poor , I would have put Corbally on but NL probably didnt want to lose Allans height in midfield .
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:24
We were poor in the final 3rd again. I donât think Bray offered enough tbh. Oli shaw needed someone closer to him but I also felt he could have done better. However, when he went off we looked really poor until Thomas came on. He was strong enough and good enough with the ball.
They were poor. When Oakley went off, all their attack did as well. Dowds offered nothing.
That ref tho
The game finished 0-0 to the referee
COYP
Post Edited (Fri 06 Nov 23:25)
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:27
A poor game that probably deserved to end 0-0 despite the referee blatantly missing Thomas getting wiped out.
Some horrific officiating once again at Starks, seems to be almost every time we visit they just allow niggly fouls all night unless we commit them and it`s an instant yellow.
We just couldn`t get a real hold of the game until the final 10-15 minutes when the system got changed by Lennon and we started looking more of a threat. Take a point at Starks and move on.
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Topic Originator: MP4-23
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:28
Frustrating that we couldn`t nick a goal somehow tonight, but a point isn`t a bad result and I don`t think we were ever under pressure and looked like conceding. Just the usual game against Raith where one team tried to play football, and the other just wanted to put themselves about and the ref just allowed it all night.
Amazed Adams stayed on the pitch tonight. Thought he looked a bit lost on the wing and was generally just frustrating to watch whether it was struggling to control the ball or trying silly back heels. He just either seems to do something really good, or really bad and there`s no in-between.
Stevenson catching a shot right to the face was probably the highlight of the game - Couldn`t happen to a better guy. Ross Millen trying to make himself relevant goading the fans at the end was amusing too
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:31
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Westies squint kicks, Fri 6 Nov 21:29
Ref was murder, and to think he officiates most of his games in the top tier.
You take a point away from home but still disappointed in the performance, we created very little.
I think the refs from the top tier are worse when they take our games. They are used to not making strong decisions as they think that VAR will make the decision for them.
With VAR the penalty tonight would be looked at, as would Turner taking out Shaw off the ball, Abdullai was raging at one point and it looked like he was saying someone had raked their studs down is ankle. I`m sure there will be other examples.
I didn`t think we played anywhere near our best tonight but we probably shaded it. The Rae save was very good to deny us late on.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:33
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Jeffery, Fri 6 Nov 23:31
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Westies squint kicks, Fri 6 Nov 21:29
Ref was murder, and to think he officiates most of his games in the top tier.
You take a point away from home but still disappointed in the performance, we created very little.
I think the refs from the top tier are worse when they take our games. They are used to not making strong decisions as they think that VAR will make the decision for them.
With VAR the penalty tonight would be looked at, as would Turner taking out Shaw off the ball, Abdullai was raging at one point and it looked like he was saying someone had raked their studs down is ankle. I`m sure there will be other examples.
I didn`t think we played anywhere near our best tonight but we probably shaded it. The Rae save was very good to deny us late on.
Millen raked his ankle/stamped on his foot then tried to pleas his innocence aka shat it when Nuru was about to get him. He also tried to get into Thomas after Baird had wiped him out off the park not long after he came on.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:49
not the only one that spotted it NikNak, its to be expected with Baird and he delivered yet again.
i get the change with Adams and Shaw after last week but it definitely didnt work tonight, how Adams stayed on the full game when you have a still have another sub slot and choice of 2 other forwards is strange to say the least. overall it was poor stuff, little to no movement from the midfield and forwards, they have been using this system for months yet it looks like there is no plan what to do not just in the final third but to get there in the first place. it got slightly better when they went 3 at the back but not by much, take the point and move on but in two weeks time, can see it being much of the same.
the referee...after the games he has done involving us the last couple of years i had an idea of what to expect but tonight was a whole new level. see Collum was in the main stand, be so proud of one of his "top" officials in the middle tonight im sure.
Post Edited (Sat 07 Nov 00:12)
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Fri 6 Nov 23:59
Draw a fair result Iâm afraid, didnât think we offered much at all. But they certainly didnât want to push to win that game. As Lennon said, takes two teams to play a good game of football and Raith didnât want to do that. They suffocated us which didnât allow us to play to our full potential.
Adams needs a spell on the bench. Thomas done well when he came on, more than Adams did all game. Heâs so raw and not ready to be starting every week, Iâd understand persisting with him if the options are limited but you have Kane and Rudden sitting chomping at the bit to come. Two players that have vast experience in these games and would know how to ruffle the feathers of their defenders.
Morton and Arbroath next two league games at home, 6 points is a must and imo utilise Kane, start him from the off, hopefully he bangs in a couple and get him off around the 60 mark and save his legs. Itâs a no brainer.
As for the referee, donât get me started, swear to god they donât have a clue whatâs going on in front of their own eyes? I reckon they just take the job because they are small minded individuals who feel they need to have some sort of an authority in their lives to make them feel better about themselves.
If you look away from the field and at some of the âtop refereesâ in our country, what they do off the pitch, a good chunk of them are police officers, if that doesnât scream I love having authority and being controlling then nothing will.
Post Edited (Sat 07 Nov 00:01)
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 00:08
Anyone else think it looked like Olly near broke his arm in the penalty collision? Clutching it to his chest after he came back on
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Sat 7 Nov 02:23
Thomas certainly holding his arm close to his side. Impacted his ability to get further involved. Possible injury worry.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 7 Nov 07:06
Decent performance tonight against a streetwise Raith side, noticed Raith has really narrowed the pitch and we just lacked that quality and movement to break them down when it counted.
Adamâs is giving me PTSD from when lennon was playing wanyama, neither should have been near our first 11 and its makes you question lennons thinking when thereâs others on the bench who can actually play football.
Itâs not surprising we struggle to break teams down with a front 3 that includes Tod and adams, Tod was better tonight but they just donât retain possession enough and vast majority of what they try doesnât come off so inevitably the move falls apart. It should be one or the other. Shaw did okay but we are lacking intelligent movement to find the space up there.
I fancy Lennon might dip into the market again in Jan for a decent forward to play on the right, Morrison isnât the answer and it would make a huge difference.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 07:25
Can`t help but think there`s something wrong with the laws of the game if you can run behind someone, make no attempt to go for the ball, have no chance of winning the ball even if you went for it, and grab someone around the neck and then only end up with a booking.
You would get lifted for common assault if you did it a few metres away on the street.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 7 Nov 07:54
Quote:
General Zod, Fri 6 Nov 22:22
Forcing Adams into the starting 11 every week is holding us back. He isnât ready to be a starter.
This.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 7 Nov 08:21
A poor game. Another poor referee. Pars got their mojo in the final minutes but it was not enough. I was surprised by how often Rovers lumped high balls toward our box. They only played footie on the counter attack.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 7 Nov 08:21
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sat 7 Nov 07:25
Can`t help but think there`s something wrong with the laws of the game if you can run behind someone, make no attempt to go for the ball, have no chance of winning the ball even if you went for it, and grab someone around the neck and then only end up with a booking.
You would get lifted for common assault if you did it a few metres away on the street.
Totally agree with this. It`s time to amend the laws of the game to put an end to these "challenges". Many of them prevent goalscoring chances so it`s important something is done.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 7 Nov 08:21
They`re a very dirty team, especially the likes of Baird and Oakley. It`s what you`ve come to expect from an Imrie managed team, absolutely no intention to have any sort of exciting football, just stay solid at the back and hoof it forward up to a target man and look for knock downs. You`re relying on referees to clamp down on teams like that but Scottish officiating has no intention of being sensible and contribute to an entertaining product on the park.
At the same time, it`s frustrating that we reverted back to passing around the back continually and not being able to progress the ball often enough. Things improved when Lennon changed the system, bringing Tod, Thomas and Gilmour on but it was a little too late. I really hope Thomas hasn`t seriously injured his arm, his physicality is a problem for defenders and you could see that towards the end where Hanlon and Baird were bricking it whenever he was around them.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 7 Nov 08:24
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sat 7 Nov 07:54
Quote:
General Zod, Fri 6 Nov 22:22
Forcing Adams into the starting 11 every week is holding us back. He isnât ready to be a starter.
This.
I wonder if Adams and Allan have ever played on astro. They seemed to get caught out by the way the ball bounces and moves differently compared to grass. Training on our astro training pitch is one thing, but playing a competitive game on their surface is completely different. Both teams struggled to keep their footing on it.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 7 Nov 08:47
"Stevenson catching a shot right to the face was probably the highlight of the game - Couldn`t happen to a better guy."
Not going to lie, I cheered this like a goal...
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 09:05
Quote:
MinnesotaAndy, Sat 7 Nov 08:21
A poor game. Another poor referee. Pars got their mojo in the final minutes but it was not enough. I was surprised by how often Rovers lumped high balls toward our box. They only played footie on the counter attack.
The way we have dominated games recently and how teams have sat in against us I thought RR tactics would be no different. The relied on a big target man, breakaways, and winning second balls. I thought they were better than us winning second balls in midfield and forward areas but their finishing was poor. As others have said when we went to a back three and wingbacks, we were better. I see McLeod developing into the wingback position due to his athleticism and strength, rather than just playing in forward positions.
RR I thought never really opened the game up, and relied on persistent fouling to break down our play. We were unable to stamp any authority on the game but perhaps that`s down to the average age of the squad. I haven`t seen a team better than us this season so this is just one of those games you have to take on the chin in my view. All part of the development.
The refereeing was pretty poor. Even my wife said that!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 7 Nov 09:40
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Sat 7 Nov 08:24
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sat 7 Nov 07:54
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General Zod, Fri 6 Nov 22:22
Forcing Adams into the starting 11 every week is holding us back. He isnât ready to be a starter.
This.
I wonder if Adams and Allan have ever played on astro. They seemed to get caught out by the way the ball bounces and moves differently compared to grass. Training on our astro training pitch is one thing, but playing a competitive game on their surface is completely different. Both teams struggled to keep their footing on it.
Less than two weeks ago at Ochilview, presumably.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 7 Nov 09:46
Or the training ground
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 7 Nov 09:58
Amid the penalty claim it should be noted Adams missed an absolute sitter from the resulting ball.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PĂ€ckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:02
Any news on Thomas? Very worrying to see him holding his shoulder.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:26
Stonewall penalty but that miss from Adams has to get him dropped, that was woeful.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:26
Dragged down to their level, anti- football, Morton mk2!đĄ
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:36
Poor game but typical derby. I am amazed at how much thuggery raith use and it was made worse by a ref that clearly was biased. Pars did things and got booked, raith did it and nothing, not even a warning., surely refs are subject to some form of review.
Anyway we did not lose and are definitely in the fight
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:42
There will be an assessor watching him last night but nothing will happen, heâll end up getting a premiership game next week. Some of the calls were genuinely baffling. Twice he stopped the game while we had the ball, and twice he walked 20 yards from where the play stopped and just gave the ball to them? The Fraser card is an atrocious decision, as was the penalty claim, genuinely think he was just too scared to give a penalty at that time of the match. Baird climbing all over Thomas at the corner flag, jumping on his back, wrestling him to the floor then continuing to wrestle him while lying on top of him.. never even spoke to him. Inept.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 7 Nov 10:43
Not a game that will live long in the memory, and a refereeing performance that was even poorer. I find it incredible that this guy is actually considered good enough to referee in the Premiership, if last night was a typical performance.
I`d have taken a draw before the game. The Rovers are a horrible team to play against, but we didn`t do enough to win it, although the penalty not given still rankles.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: tentonhammers
Date: Sat 7 Nov 11:00
Bit of a mental period of fixtures coming up after the international break which means we`ll need to utilise the squad. Worry is that starters like Adams are not up to it but then replacements are inconsistent too. Can`t rely on it "clicking" by pure chance when there`s games every few days.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 7 Nov 11:05
The break will give Turley and Robinson a chance of getting nearer to match fitness without missing a game. Every cloud...
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Sat 7 Nov 11:06
Unfortunately working last night and missed a fair bit of tv coverage.
It looked a well scrappy game. Refâs performance well below standard requirements for professional football game. Fraser got the ball didnât look like he got any of the player and got booked. Tiffoney should have been off for that neck haul from behind. Commentary even commented that in rugby thatâs a straight red never mind football.
Now the penalty claim, It showed 2 angles in replay. First one looks like he was poleaxed. Second one behind the goal replay suggested Rae made significant contact with Thomas`s lower body without cleanly taking the ball. It was absolutely a penalty.
Another clean sheet, an important point and continuing our unbeaten run.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 7 Nov 11:06
McLeod is an infinitely better footballer than Adams, as is cooper & bray. Thomas (aslong as the shoulder isnât bad) should be nearing full fitness to start, Kane and Rudden can be utilised. We have plenty of options up top. Gilmour can come in for Oyirwoth or Amade, thought he done ok when he came on albeit a short time.
Our squad is very big and we have plenty of ok options without any real standouts. Fingers crossed this is where we can kick on where other teams like raith will really struggle with such small squads.
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Topic Originator: tentonhammers
Date: Sat 7 Nov 11:10
Fair on Turley and Robinson maybe returning but sadly not the end of the pitch we struggle with!
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 12:51
I watched the highlights again. A definite penalty. Adams, has to do better too.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:11
Quote:
Mexicopar, Sat 7 Nov 12:51
I watched the highlights again. A definite penalty. Adams, has to do better too.
You know if Adams had scored, it would have been hauled back for a penalty
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:20
Adams looked all at sea on the cheap plastic pitch.
I`m sure there is a good player in him
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:22
"You know if Adams had scored, it would have been hauled back for a penalty."
That would have caused an uproar from the players and staff.
The advantage rule "has" to be applied in that scenario.
The referee last night was poor - but not quite to that level of incompetence.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:38
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 7 Nov 13:22
"You know if Adams had scored, it would have been hauled back for a penalty."
That would have caused an uproar from the players and staff.
The advantage rule "has" to be applied in that scenario.
The referee last night was poor - but not quite to that level of incompetence.
VEE, I wouldnât be so sure. There was some staggeringly bad decisions last night. The haul of Tod in the penalty area where the opposition arms are around the upper body neck area shows that referees who are used to the back up of VAR may becoming used to that back up rather than using it to improve themselves.
It was the worst performance from a referee for a long time.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:41
Quote:
Jock Par36, Sat 7 Nov 13:20
Adams looked all at sea on the cheap plastic pitch.
I`m sure there is a good player in him
He changed his boots at halftime, didn`t seem to do him much good.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 7 Nov 13:51
For me Adams was receiving too many passes with his back to goal. To use his pace against Stevenson he needed a ball to run on to so he could take him on or a ball behind the defence into space. He may have been partly to blame because of his positiong but it should have been sorted.
Post Edited (Sat 07 Nov 14:08)
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Sat 7 Nov 15:16
We rarely pass the ball up the channels, generally we receive it looking back to our goal. Players donât seem to want to make the run past the man into space.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 7 Nov 16:10
AdamâsâŠâŠ
The chance at the end was much harder than it looked. Thomas flicks the ball on but Rae gets a touch on it that changes the direction of then ball just enough so Adamâs canât make good contact with it. If Rae doesnât make contact Adamâs would have scored.
That doesnât deflect from the awful refereeing decision. It was a pen all day long.
Youâve seen the Pars now please go home!
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 7 Nov 16:40
Quote:
parsfan, Sat 7 Nov 13:41
Quote:
Jock Par36, Sat 7 Nov 13:20
Adams looked all at sea on the cheap plastic pitch.
I`m sure there is a good player in him
He changed his boots at halftime, didn`t seem to do him much good.
Thought he had them on back to front the number of poorly executed back heels he did
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Topic Originator: Mexicopar
Date: Sat 7 Nov 16:45
Douglas Imries post match was complimentary of the Pars. The gist of his comments appeared to indicate that they tried to stop the Pars playing and that a point each was a fair result. Bothe defences were solid and an equal midfield battle.
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