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 Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 4 Sep 20:12

Back in the media circus... jogging on the spot in his dress suit collar and tie.... then gets the work jacket and hard hat on for the HS2 project photo shoot ....He really does like to dress up for every occasion and try and convince us he is a man of the people .....but disappears and hides when he has to face controversy or confrontation .... He really is a total erse of a man .......just saying
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 4 Sep 20:51

His romance is seemingly in a bit of trouble!

Bpp...WASPI verdict 15th September!

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 4 Sep 21:01

Thanks LA ....would love the outcome to be pay back the money ....They are throwing money about to all and sundry like it was going out of fashion.... Lets hope we get a result
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 4 Sep 21:44

The 9.8 million males getting their NI paid from age 60 to retirement is a massive game changer!
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Fri 4 Sep 23:17

Boris is basically a clown that somehow appeals to morons so the real scum are using him to keep them happy till they get what they want.And stuff the rest of us as this could be a disaster come January.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 6 Sep 10:39

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 4 Sep 20:51

His romance is seemingly in a bit of trouble!

Bpp...WASPI verdict 15th September!


Has he been "fiddling" about again?

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 8 Sep 12:25

Wonder how his court injunction is getting on?🤔
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Tue 8 Sep 18:55

I blame Google for being a cesspit and destroying my wonderful image of the man.

I wanted to search for "Boris Johnson visits Scotland" to find out where he stayed. I only got as far as "Boris Johnson vi" then the stupid autocomplete added "olinist super injunction". Now I have lost all confidence in our brave leader :(
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 8 Sep 19:07

Rejecting the application for a gagging order, the master of the rolls, sitting with Lord Justice Tomlinson and Lord Justice Ryder, said: "First, much that has been published by the media in relation to the claimant's paternity remains available online. It is also included in Just Boris, a book written by Sonia Purnell.

"Secondly, the permanent injunction sought by the claimant would only restrain the defendant from referring to the information, although many other media organisations have published the same thing.

Now my favourite bit :)

"Thirdly, it is fanciful to expect the public to forget the fact that the man who is said to be the claimant's father, and who is a major public figure, has fathered a child after a brief adulterous affair (not for the first time). Nor are they likely to forget the outline facts of the story including the identity of the mother."
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 15 Sep 17:21

Quote :-

Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 4 Sep 20:51

Bpp...WASPI verdict 15th September!

Another defeat unfortunately LA :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54158832

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 15 Sep 18:08

Quote:

Buspasspar, Tue 15 Sep 17:21

Quote :-

Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 4 Sep 20:51

Bpp...WASPI verdict 15th September!

Unfortunately, PHSO hurdle still to happen!

Luckily my wife gets her first SPA payment this week, she has been a poor investment!🤔🤣🤣🤣
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 15 Sep 20:36

LOL LA
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 15 Sep 20:39

The Tory Government are Haemorrhaging tax payers money to all their pals and donors with huge brexit and Covid contracts to Company's who don't even exist ....Then sucking the poor and pensioners dry to pay for it ....Nothing new there then :(
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Tue 15 Sep 22:32

It all started years ago with Thatcher who sold off all the family silver(ie our national industries) to her pals for peanuts.Sure it was her government that also stopped the top up of the NI fund which funds pensions.
They are sooking up the cash for all their scam deals just now and the next target is the NHS.Eventually the country will own nothing but they'll all be rich.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 16 Sep 18:45

Tories are like the Old Firm - take everything for themselves then complain that they support the rest.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 16 Sep 19:00

Lost another law officer to the Internal Market bill.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 18 Sep 12:51

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/09/16/company-conservative-donations-government-ppe-procurement-deal/
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 18 Sep 15:32

There's more good news.

From the Guardian:-

''The UK government is facing legal action over Boris Johnson’s “moonshot” project, which could involve up to £100bn being spent on an attempt to increase Covid-19 testing capacity to 10m per day.

The health secretary, Matt Hancock, and the minister for the Cabinet Office, Michael Gove, are named in a case that alleges the project, as described in leaked papers, is unlawful because it ignores scientific evidence, involves potentially huge private contracts that may not have been tendered and breaks the government’s own value-for-money rules.

The project has been widely criticised as a misdirected effort when between 3 and 9 September, only 571,400 people were tested for infection in England in NHS and community settings, according to official figures. Community testing has been getting slower, with the median time taken to get a result at local test sites increasing from 24 hours to 35 hours.

Supporters of the project say it is the kind of ambitious thinking required to enable life to return to normal until an effective vaccine can be rolled out.''
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 18 Sep 17:07

Another one away :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54210658
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 18 Sep 19:30

Yeah, but what does George Clooney's wife know (tongue firmly in cheek)?
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 19 Sep 17:51

Seemingly he's complaining that he is struggling on the £150K salary!
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 19 Sep 17:52

Quote:

Buspasspar, Tue 15 Sep 20:36

LOL LA


https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1335994/state-pension-age-change-latest-news-appeal-ruling-backto60-supreme-court-boris-johnson/amp?__twitter_impression=true
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 19 Sep 18:04

Link blank LA ?
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Mon 21 Sep 11:15

Looks like our brave leader has recently enjoyed a lovely Bunga Bunga party hosted by his Russia buddies. Lovely Jubbly.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 21 Sep 16:55

Quote:

Buspasspar, Sat 19 Sep 18:04

Link blank LA ?


https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1335851/state-pension-age-change-news-back-to-60-appeal-latest-update
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 21 Sep 18:14

Got it LA many thanks
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 21 Sep 20:24

Russian money and classical musicians and struggling with the bevvy....

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 24 Sep 14:15

Alright for some!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8763869/amp/Carrie-Symonds-enjoys-five-star-Italian-holiday-Rishi-Sunak-unveils-urgent-measures-save-jobs.html?__twitter_impression=true
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 24 Sep 14:18

Also revealed that Patrick Vallance has £600K invested in company getting government money to develop Covid vaccine!

Can't post link from Telegraph, behind paywall.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 24 Sep 16:13

And so it continues ....:(
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 24 Sep 17:37

They're all at it!😡😡😡

<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queen-bailout-coronavirus-sovereign-grant-royal-family-b572508.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1600952656>
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 24 Sep 18:00

Time for a revolution!!

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/09/21/government-ppe-deals-conservatives-364-million/
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 25 Sep 08:30

Johnson plumbed new depths of crassness when he blamed the new spike in coronavirus cases on the British people's love of freedom being far greater than that of many other countries.

This has drawn some caustic responses from the leaders of countries who felt he was pointing at them. "We love our freedom, too," replied Italy's President Mattarelli, "but we also have seriousness."



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 25 Sep 09:19

Aye G.G. .... A crass remark from Westminsters resident misanthrope

While his bidey in swans about in a £600/day hotel and a £300/day launch
I wonder if there are any Oligarchs yachts moored nearby ?
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 25 Sep 09:31

I'm surprised the opposition parties aren't making more of all these contracts being awarded to Tory cronies.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 25 Sep 09:33

Perhaps his remarks were pointed at China no?

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 25 Sep 09:35

That's something I've been wondering about as well Wee Eck. Perhaps they don't want too much light being shone on who is getting what contracts and why.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Sat 26 Sep 09:08

I think coronavirus is messing things up for the opposition parties. If they start to talk politics instead of Covid then they will be accused of ignoring the .massive public health threat. to score political points.

I think the best thing to do would be to gather evidence now and wait a few months until coronavirus is off the front pages before attacking the government.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 26 Sep 19:46

Quote:

The One Who Knocks, Fri 25 Sep 09:33

Perhaps his remarks were pointed at China no?


Maybe he was, TOWK, or maybe you are crediting him with too much intelligence. I used to think he must be quite smart cos he went to Eton, but recently I've felt it necessary to re-evaluate that assessment. 🤔

He upset the Germans as well as the Italians. They seem to think it was an oblique reference to Hitler and Mussolini.



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 27 Sep 17:24



We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 27 Sep 19:44

Nice one BPP!

Country is too busy bothering about the dress Amanda Holden is wearing on BGT!!
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 27 Sep 21:34

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Buspasspar, Sun 27 Sep 17:24



Are you taking orders, BPP?

I could use a couple as running (well more like fast walking these days) tops. Can you supply different colours? Cost + postage for two, size M. Cheers.

Eta Out of all these, I don't mind Sunak too much.



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 28 Sep 08:23

This is not mine a pal e-mailed it to me but I liked it

I think Sunak is ok as well and see him as a future PM

Size M G.G. ? :)

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 28 Sep 12:14

Quote:

Buspasspar, Mon 28 Sep 08:23

This is not mine a pal e-mailed it to me but I liked it

I think Sunak is ok as well and see him as a future PM

Size M G.G. ? :)


Aye the guy that made money from the financial crash🤔

Never trust a Tory!😡
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 28 Sep 14:16

Quote:

Buspasspar, Mon 28 Sep 08:23

This is not mine a pal e-mailed it to me but I liked it

I think Sunak is ok as well and see him as a future PM

Size M G.G. ? :)


Yeah, I know, auld yin. I got it as well but didn't know how to put it on your thread. I was just pulling your leg.

Size M fits my finely honed body just fine, btw. I can still get into my wedding suit from 1979.... ☺



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 28 Sep 16:17

LOL aye we.ve seen you wearing it.... turn ups and double breasted :)

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 28 Sep 20:53

Ken LA ....the Tories have Carte Blanche right now at stealing money from us poor pensioners, public service workers, health service staff, to give back to their faithful donors who will only get richer as a reward for for their support ....:(

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 30 Sep 12:15

Read this today ...LA

By Miriam Margolyes.

“The United Kingdom has fallen. There has been a right wing coup in this country... . And nobody noticed. We did not notice because it was years in the making. We did not notice because when it came, it came in a blonde
wig and a mask of buffoonery. We did not notice because it lied to us and hid its true intent. We did not notice because the foreign manipulation was hidden from us and continues to be hidden from us. We did not notice, because the lies when they were discovered were hidden by more lies, until lack of truth became normal and acceptable.

We didn.t notice because it appealed to our basest nature. It cried racist, it cried xenophobe, it falsified a threat to our way of life and blamed others. We did not notice because we accepted all the promises and lies and now we cannot admit to our gullibility.

Make no mistake it has been moving steadily and stealthily. Have you not noticed how Parliament has been emasculated and how decisions are now taken by a few in a closed room? Have you noticed how the judiciary is being
sidelined? Have you noticed how the media are controlled & access to news is restricted? The BBC merely mouths faceless government sources and the papers howl racist xenophobic and government-fed lies?

Have you noticed how the police, under cover of COVID, are being encouraged gradually to interfere more and more in our lives? Have you noticed how we are being encouraged to report .unsocial behaviour. in our neighbour.s?
Have you noticed how the impartial Civil Service is being packed with yes men and government cronies? Committee after committee is rigged with government-friendly sympathisers.

Even now a review of the Armed Services is underway. Have you noticed how every means of objection or complaint is being stealthily closed? Have you noticed the intention to lower food standards, animal & environmental standards and abandon the guarantees of our basic human rights?

Have you noticed how measures trumpeted as keeping foreigners out, actually make it harder for US to leave? Finally have you noticed how the government is engineering circumstances under which everyone.s lives will be so much harder and under which we will have so much more to worry about than complain about our government?

Meanwhile the rape and asset- stripping of the country has already begun, with million-pound contracts awarded to cronies with no apparent expertise, siphoning money from the public purse to the private pocket and delivering
nothing.

It may already be too late but surely the time has come to cry enough! To stand up against the lies, the manipulation, the takeover of our Society. This government does not govern for the people. this government is
governing for itself. It has become an enemy of the people, its actions are treasonous. Surely it is time to demand better, time to TAKE BACK CONTROL.”

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: southernpar  
Date:   Wed 30 Sep 13:09

Fair play to Miriam, all of that is 100. true. If we had a labour government at the moment while all this was going on, the Tories as opposition would be crucifying them at every opportunity, but as it stands labour are saying nothing and letting things happen, even the left wing press is surprisingly quiet, which makes you think, are they all lining there pockets?
This is easily the worst government in my lifetime, and I have been around a good few years now, far worse than the Thatcher government.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Wed 30 Sep 14:13

Yeah, worse than Thatchers government.
They were evil and corrupt.
This lot are evil, corrupt and incompetent.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 30 Sep 17:49

Britannia Unchained slowly coming to fruition I.m afraid :(

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 1 Oct 08:55

Good article BPP, up in Pitlochry for a couple of days just now, caught up with posts this morning!
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Thu 1 Oct 09:38

sadindiefreak.

They aren.t incompetent. They are appearing incompetent, but actually they are executing their plan pretty effectively. As long as the 40. Tory vote holds up (which it will because they.ve managed to kill off all right wing opposition) they can continue to do as they please.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 18 Oct 16:48

Well, well, well....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-plans-resign-next-22863780.amp

Only newspaper talk, but it wouldn't surprise me.



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 18 Oct 16:53

Step in Rishi Sunak .....bookies favourite apparently

I also noticed G.G. that Jennifer is doing the circuit again saying yes she did have an affair with our brave leader

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 18 Oct 17:23

Has been rumoured for a while that he was resigning at the end of the year, fed up with the job, personal problems etc.

Was also rumoured last weekend that Trump was chucking it as well!
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 18 Oct 22:51

What.s Boris.s next gig going to be? I.m a Celebrity...? Strictly...?

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Mon 16 Nov 10:45

He gets 150 K p.a. you say? Probably could make that for one after-dinner speech. So why doesn`t he resign.? I suppose as PM he`s able to make things happen that put mega-monster wedges in his back pocket.

As for the right wing coup - been blatantly obvious to me, same as in US and a worldwide shift to the far right.

No use pleading for folk to stand up and take control unless you`re gonna do it yourself. Is Miriam on the march?

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 16 Nov 20:12

Here we go again our Brave PM who cannot face confrontation or has the stomach for a fight .... Can you imagine Boris beside you in the trenches ?

He is hiding .... trying to buy a bit of time.... to rethink to readjust to deflect the mess he is in and his dysfunctional cabinet ....The worst PM and Party in my life time

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Riquende  
Date:   Sun 22 Nov 00:37

Buspasspar wrote:

.... Can you imagine Boris beside
> you in the trenches ?
>

I would expect a man named Alexander De Pfeffel Johnson to have a cushy job in HQ, not be anywhere near the trenches!

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 22 Nov 09:15

Too fat for the trenches!🤔😁
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 07:21

Try again.

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiuwMZIBX5rkH-cy4332yABYoyjX3w9pQ49Uj2QiXoZKW-clhkSHkFISTLdF39tHgyo8mh9dYrVJOjHjImMKxzqRs6MASBJwykxvDZdWGU2PLudVHbk_1_1aaNsHZkMHaR8yzyB3a8KHEjYXu8W_1O-v2Qoe5X0G2Y2S2zZvBjX5Tf_1MHIeHWoYgHfDHzslOAls8HWilg1QrSxr5LwSK9EVQ96blamQqUJ-WLmsjhhSl51t2xksZEnObikXfW8EvE29Z9YWlqHZ8b-bGqjQc8xA7epWxbTfYSwmpz8Uj0RJNbteJM0GQpnE6LuhPeUNC_1TCfUgCgeyBhPYNKHDHQX7okEeV-tmTTw

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 07:48

Link doesn`t work, GG.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 10:00

No workie G.G.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 10:20

Admin can you help, please? The link appears live on my tablet and works fine for me.



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 10:24

I think that might be a link to your Google email that none of us can access. You might need to click through and then copy the URL after you've clicked on it?
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 11:56

Dinnae encourage him LPF :)

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 12:37

I'll send it to the most handsome member of the Admin team and see if he can sort it.

Sorry Tiddlywink. ☹

Eta. I think I`ve cracked it - no need for George Clooney after all. ;-)



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 12:54

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Buspasspar, Tue 5 Jan 11:56

Dinnae encourage him LPF :)


It's a debt of honour after he translated TOWKs message into something a numpty could understand!
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 12:58

Looks like it might be this game GG is trying to link to?

https://twitter.com/rosscomcq/status/1346163876149211141?s=09

This is just a random on Twitter that was matching the pictures GG has in his link above just in case the guy is a rasper disclaimer.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 13:28

Quote:

londonparsfan, Tue 5 Jan 12:58

Looks like it might be this game GG is trying to link to?

https://twitter.com/rosscomcq/status/1346163876149211141?s=09

This is just a random on Twitter that was matching the pictures GG has in his link above just in case the guy is a rasper disclaimer.


Brill. Cheers, lpf. Fancy joining the Admin team? 😉



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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 13:44

No chance! Not after the way you see some posters ogling Admin like pieces of meat determining the hierarchy of how handsome they are rather than judging them on their capabilities in dishing out cards and deleting posts.

Unless you tell me I'm the bestest most handsomest then I'm in.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 13:44

Oh and your welcome!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 15:09

Quote:

londonparsfan, Tue 5 Jan 13:44

No chance! Not after the way you see some posters ogling Admin like pieces of meat determining the hierarchy of how handsome they are rather than judging them on their capabilities in dishing out cards and deleting posts.

Unless you tell me I'm the bestest most handsomest then I'm in.


I've heard Brad Pitt's your doppelganger...... 🙂





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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 16:09

Is the fact that the b&ll **** bingo picture immediately follows that statement a sign? (Although you are a smooth talker!)

I don't think I could handle the admin gig - it would go to my head:

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 16:35

Quote:

londonparsfan, Tue 5 Jan 16:09

Is the fact that the b&ll **** bingo picture immediately follows that statement a sign? (Although you are a smooth talker!)

I don't think I could handle the admin gig - it would go to my head:



You're safe enough, lpf. Elevation to Admin is by invitation only and that's only after Brian has seen your passport photo and decided you're braw......

Modesty forbids me revealing that I was invited to join the Admin team, a couple of years ago, but opted to snub him. 😶



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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 16:44

Got it now G.G. :)

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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Tue 5 Jan 18:03

I just can't compete!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 8 Jan 10:34

I see our noble PM condemned the mob on Capitol Hill but avoided apportioning any blame to Trump until he came under pressure to do so, since every other world leader and even his pal, Patel, had done so earlier in the day.



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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Fri 8 Jan 10:34

Trade deals to be signed etc etc
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 8 Jan 14:09

The trade deals would be getting signed with Biden and his senate. Unless that`s what you mean LPF?

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Fri 8 Jan 16:33

Yep BoJo jumping ship as well because as always its in his interest to do so.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 14 Feb 20:07

US President Joe Biden has said his predecessor Donald Trump`s acquittal for inciting mob violence is a reminder that "democracy is fragile".

Boris Johnson has insisted US democracy remains "strong", despite the "kerfuffle" over former President Donald Trump`s impeachment trial.

Well done brave sir what do the crazy Yanks know about their own Country ?

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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 15 Feb 13:52

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Buspasspar, Sun 14 Feb 20:07

US President Joe Biden has said his predecessor Donald Trump`s acquittal for inciting mob violence is a reminder that "democracy is fragile".

Boris Johnson has insisted US democracy remains "strong", despite the "kerfuffle" over former President Donald Trump`s impeachment trial.

Well done brave sir what do the crazy Yanks know about their own Country ?


He's not going to get many Biden supporters voting for him so he's having to keep the Trump fans onside.

Having said that, if Starmer can't get ahead in the polls now then he's surely never going to manage it.


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 19 Feb 18:39

From Aunty :-


Boris Johnson`s main adviser on keeping the UK together has departed, saying his position was made "untenable" by others within Downing Street.

Oliver Lewis, an ally of the prime minister`s former chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, was a key part of the campaign for the UK to leave the EU.

His departure comes as the Scottish National Party is calling for another referendum on independence.

Mr Lewis was confirmed in his role just two weeks ago.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 25 Feb 08:32

From the Guardian :-



Boris Johnson is “an unrepentant and inveterate liar” who feels he is not subject to the same rules as others, Sylvie Bermann, the former French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, says in a new book.

She also claims some Brexiters are consumed with hatred for Germany and gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their own, describing Brexit as a triumph of emotion over reason, won by a campaign full of lies in which negative attitudes to migration were exploited by figures such as Johnson and Michael Gove.

Bermann, who served as the French ambassador to the UK from 2014 to 2017 and has been one of the most senior diplomats in the French diplomatic service, including as ambassador to China and to Russia, assesses the British handling of the Covid pandemic as among the worst in the world alongside that of Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. She predicts Johnson will seek to use Covid to mask the true economic cost of Brexit on the UK economy.

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 16:37

Sadly, Bermann has BoJo down to a T.



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Topic Originator: shrek par  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 19:04

Reckon she's on the money with that.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 09:38

OH NO ..... He`s lying agin :-


Dozens of Covid contracts had not been published when Boris Johnson told MPs they were "on the record for everyone to see", campaigners say.

The Good Law Project said the PM`s assurance last month was "not true" because government lawyers had said 100 contracts were yet to be revealed.

The group successfully sued the government over its failure to reveal details about Covid deals last month.

The government said remaining contracts would be published as soon as possible.
The Department for Health and Social Care struck deals worth hundreds of millions of pounds during the coronavirus pandemic.

The government is required by law to publish a "contract award notice" within 30 days of the awarding any contracts for public goods or services worth more than £120,000.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 09:50

Isn`t that a breach of the ministerial code?

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 12:58

Surely not breaking the law again?

Northern Ireland not looking good for them either, but hey Carrie wants to revamp their flat for £200,000!💩💩💩
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 14:52

https://goodlawproject.org/update/johnson-misled-parliament/

Ministerial code, resigning matter?

Where's DROSS and Ruth now?🤔🤬💩💩💩

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 14:53

Just one donation of £10,000 will guarantee that a Johnson will eat for a week. Donate today by calling...
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 15:02

Then there`s the scandal of the distribution of the `levelling-up fund` as reported by the Guardian -

`A fund intended to boost the UK’s most deprived places appears overwhelmingly skewed towards Tory-held areas, with dozens of Conservative regions in the top tier for assistance despite being relatively affluent, a Guardian analysis has found.

Among 93 English regions placed in the priority group of three tiers to receive money from the £4.8bn levelling up fund, 31 are included while not being ranked as in the top third most deprived places by average deprivation score.

Of these 31, 26 are entirely represented by Conservative MPs, with the others having at least one Tory MP.

Among the remaining five is Canterbury, is a highly marginal Labour-Conservative seat.`

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 08:40

Daily Mail :-


No10 decor scandal: Boris Johnson `persuaded Tory chiefs to secretly pay for Carrie Symonds` £200,000 makeover` of his Downing Street flat

Conservative Party funds met a large part of the makeover bill, sources say
After being warned it could be `improper`, they allegedly launched a cover-up

Wealthy donors reportedly agreed to pay an equivalent sum into Tory coffers

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 09:12

It`s also being reported that over £2.6m has been spent converting a room at Downing Street so that televised daily press briefings by the government`s spokeswoman can be made from there to replace the current daily briefings which are given in private by a civil servant.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 09:38

Wonder where the new Yoon posters on the sturgeon thread have gone recently? They've gone eerily quiet ever since their dastardly plans went to absolute s**t
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 09:48

It`s also being reported that over £2.6m has been spent converting a room at Downing Street so that televised daily press briefings by the government`s spokeswoman can be made from there to replace the current daily briefings which are given in private by a civil servant.

Saw that wee eck ... apparently its to be more like the White House

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 11:59

No doubt Scotland will be charged with a share of this in the GERS figures just to help prove we can`t afford to be independent.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 8 Mar 17:38

Listen to Boris the Braves opening Cobra committee welcome
The Man cannot string a sentence together


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56321647

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 8 Mar 21:12

Supposed to be building an underground bunker, with tunnel link to Downing St for £9.5 million!

I hear that German and American politicians being arrested for guiding PPE contracts to their pals!🤔🤥😡
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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Tue 9 Mar 17:02

Quite right too. Vive le revolution.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 9 Mar 18:26

He had better add another room for the Royal family!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 9 Mar 20:22

Jim Royal says Bunkers my bottom :-))



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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 17:11

Once again at PM's questions, he doesn't answer them or spins some outright lies, what's the point of the exercise?🤥🤥🤥

Speaker does nothing, about as much use as a traffic cone!😡

On his boast about nurse recruitment, does the figures include those that have come out of retirement to help with the pandemic?🤔
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 17:17

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Wed 10 Mar 17:11

Once again at PM's questions, he doesn't answer them or spins some outright lies, what's the point of the exercise?🤥🤥🤥

Speaker does nothing, about as much use as a traffic cone!😡

On his boast about nurse recruitment, does the figures include those that have come out of retirement to help with the pandemic?🤔


Say what you like but they're good thieves and liars, to think I get it tight for not trusting them with my health....

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 19:42

OH NOooooo he`s lying again :-

Labour has accused Boris Johnson of lying to MPs after he wrongly claimed Sir Keir Starmer had voted against a pay rise for NHS workers in England.

The party is calling on the PM to "correct the record" after he said Labour had voted against a 2.1% rise.

Question..... is Boris the Brave lying ? .... Or does he not have a clue as to what is actually going on ?

Its not a great read really for the man supposedly in charge of G.B. :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56350476



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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 13:53

He was referring to Labour voting against the Queen`s Speech apparently, not the NHS pay rise!

From the Guardian:-

`...now No 10 is saying there is no need to the PM to correct the record - because in fact he was referring to Labour voting against the Queen’s speech, and so he was right all along. Allegra Stratton, the PM’s press secretary, said:

The prime minister was referring to Labour voting against the Queen’s speech in January of last year.

When it was pointed out that in the Commons yesterday Johnson said that Labour had voted against the “document” that Starmer was holding in his hand, Stratton said Labour’s vote against the Queen’s speech was “the basis” for the point Johnson made.

Asked why she had not said this yesterday, she said she had not had time to speak to Johnson between PMQs and the start of yesterday’s lobby briefing. She did not explain why, if Johnson’s account is accurate, there was no attempt to explain that to journalists later in the day.

This new line means Johnson’s won’t he apologising for misleading MPs, or correcting the record, because he has decided he was right all along.`

He gets more like Trump every day.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 14:19

Allegra lying as well now ... I had one of her Cars many years ago :)

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 14:30

She has gone over to the dark side, bpp!

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 16 Mar 09:05

His new press room is like something out of Ibrox!

Seemingly wired up by some Russian technology firm.

2.5 million for that?

Plus further millions for more nuclear warheads, are they going to nuke the EU?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 16 Mar 09:24

Hehehehe LA ... Dominic and the Ruski`s will be able to listen to every word :)

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 16 Mar 18:16

What a fekin mess :-

Looks a broken man ..... he has to be the worst PM ever

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56413920



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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Tue 16 Mar 19:45

Great! We can threaten China with nuclear weapons and they can retaliate by taking our phones and clothes away.
And we won`t even be able to make our own phones and clothes because we spent all the money on nukes. Well done!

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 17 Mar 10:39

Now you can't protest nor attack a statue, 10yr in the clink, but only 5yrs for rape!🤔😡😡😡

Wall to wall coverage on MSM!

Nurses not nukes!👍💷

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 23 Mar 10:36

Seemingly £116 million for a new airbus so BJ can go on his jollies!😡😷🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 09:49

Interesting comment about capitalism and greed ( presumably aimed at the pharmaceutical companies) which he then immediately retracted last night.

I wonder which of his political buddies leaked that to the media?



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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 10:07

Quote:

GG Riva, Wed 24 Mar 09:49

Interesting comment about capitalism and greed ( presumably aimed at the pharmaceutical companies) which he then immediately retracted last night.

I wonder which of his political buddies leaked that to the media?


Capitalism and greed are exactly what these harmful lockdowns are about, it really isn't about a very survivable virus .
I said last year we'd be locked down this year too and was laughed at, mentioned travel bans, laughed at, now travel, unless wealthy is illegal, what have we let happen.
If course I'm just a conspiracy nut...maybe...but I called just about everything about the carrot and stick situation we are in .
That's before we get to the billions stolen from us.

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 10:30

A very survivable virus? Yeah for some but for many others it is and sadly was fatal.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 12:02

"a very survivable virus ."???

If you`re young, fit & healthy.


However, if you`re old or have health issues, Rasta wants the government and society to laugh, throw you a carrot, and leave you to die.


Nice guy...

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 13:00

Quote:

Luxembourg Par, Wed 24 Mar 12:02

"a very survivable virus ."???

If you`re young, fit & healthy.


However, if you`re old or have health issues, Rasta wants the government and society to laugh, throw you a carrot, and leave you to die.


Nice guy...


Pray tell where I've even remotely said that you utter cretin, I'll wait.

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Topic Originator: CAPar  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 13:45

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Rastapari, Wed 24 Mar 10:07

Capitalism and greed are exactly what these harmful lockdowns are about, it really isn't about a very survivable virus .


So what was the alternative to lockdowns?

Protect the vulnerable and let the young, fit and healthy go about their daily business unchecked? If that's the case, how does protecting the vulnerable work exactly?

Lock them all away somewhere so they don't come into contact with anyone that's not locked down?

Might as well open up big detention centres and chuck them all in there so people who more than likely will survive the virus can get on with their lives without having to feel guilty about possibly infecting someone who might later die.

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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 14:32

I`m assuming that you`re able to read your own wee diatribes.

I`d rather be an `utter cretin` in your opinion, than a flip flopping conspiracy nut who complains at everything and suggests (real & workable) solutions to absolutely nothing in everyone else`s opinion.

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 16:56


Perhaps Rasta is right and actually the elderly are all keen to meet their maker after all!?!?!?

Although not sure of his comment regarding the effect on people’s religious beliefs? ... do you stop believing if you can’t physically attend?


Covid in Scotland: Churches win restrictions legal challenge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56511585

“Coronavirus regulations that forced the closure of churches in Scotland have been deemed unlawful.

A group of 27 church leaders launched a judicial review at the Court of Session arguing the Scottish government acted beyond their powers under emergency legislation.

Lord Braid agreed the regulations went further than was lawfully allowed.

He said the Scottish government regulations disproportionately interfered with the freedom of religion secured in the European Convention on Human Rights.

He added: "It is impossible to measure the effect of those restrictions on those who hold religious beliefs.”
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 17:11

"He said the Scottish government regulations disproportionately interfered with the freedom of religion secured in the European Convention on Human Rights."

Hmmm

If people are able to declare that their religion is Protestant, Catholic, Judaism, Muslim or even Jedi...

Can`t we declare that DAFC is our religion, and it`s against the ECHR to stop us attending to worship?

After, we have stated our belief in `Andy Tod son of God`, `Hamish French my Lord`, and that `Man will live forevermore, because of Jim Bowie`

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 24 Mar 22:03

Religious groups can bugger off. Exceptions should be made based on belief? Utterly ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 28 Mar 09:09

Here we go again Sunday Mirror :-



Jennifer Arcuri today tells for the first time how she fell in love with Boris Johnson during an affair she says lasted four years.

The businesswoman says they slept together at the flat where she had a pole dancer’s pole.

Jennifer reveals a mutual “physical and intellectual attraction”. They shared a love of Shakespeare, she codenamed him Alexander the Great, and she says he loved her body and mind and “couldn’t keep his hands off me” on their first tryst.

But ultimately, she says, he was a “cowardly wet noodle” for not standing by her in the row over her presence on foreign trade trips.

Jennifer says her romance with PM Boris – who was Mayor of London at the time – lasted from 2012 to 2016. It was his second term of office and he was married to now ex-wife Marina, mother of their four children.

Questions first surfaced two years ago when it was revealed Jennifer, 35, was allowed on three taxpayer-funded trade missions led by Boris, 56.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 29 Mar 17:48

Strange how the BBC and most MSM ignoring this, surely not North of the border?🤔🤬🤬

£120K for a sh*g, is that the going rate down Souff?
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Mon 29 Mar 22:57

I'd have been giving .Net discounts if I hadn't moved back up the road.
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 30 Mar 06:38

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Mon 29 Mar 17:48

Strange how the BBC and most MSM ignoring this, surely not North of the border?🤔🤬🤬

£120K for a sh*g, is that the going rate down Souff?


Another example of the double standards being applied to the 2 parliaments.

could you imagine the news report headlines and bloodlust if NS had a) been taking some bloke on gov. trips the round world to help him advance his business opportunities and then it turned out b) they were having an affair???
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 3 Apr 21:24

So released to the Sun 🤮 and to be announced Monday, newspaper gets news first, again!🤬🤬🤬

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14540027/boris-johnson-ditches-vaccine-passport-pubs/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 4 Apr 19:47

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Sat 3 Apr 21:24

So released to the Sun 🤮 and to be announced Monday, newspaper gets news first, again!🤬🤬🤬

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14540027/boris-johnson-ditches-vaccine-passport-pubs/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Does anyone believe the Sun gets these scoops for nothing?

Fat brown envelopes thrust into grubby hands anyone?

This articles has him sussed:-

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/04/the-brexit-elite-cannot-hope-to-fool-us-for-much-longer



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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 4 Apr 20:01

Good read G.G. thanks for sharing

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 4 Apr 20:08

Also very interesting :-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/02/carrie-symonds-aspinall-foundation-a-network-of-family-wealth-and-a-charity-investigation

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 5 Apr 13:58

The Thick Of It, Sir Alan Duncan`s book


Boris Johnson`s former deputy has said the Prime Minister is an "embarrassing buffoon" in a damning new book.


Mr Johnson is said to have asked, "Why don`t they take me seriously?", to which Sir Alan claims he replied: "Look in the ****ing mirror!"

In an entry on September 24, 2017, Sir Alan writes Mr Johnson "despises" Mrs May despite publicly supporting her.

The book reads: "He is a clown, a self-centred ego, an embarrassing buffoon, with an untidy mind and sub-zero diplomatic judgement.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 15 Apr 18:52

Newcastle Brown!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/15/saudis-asked-boris-johnson-to-intervene-in-newcastle-united-bid
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 20 Apr 12:55

Wading into the Euroleague argument, surely to attract the popular vote!
Managed to sidestep 5 Cobra meetings, but will attend a meeting about a sport in which he has no interest!

Still, keeps the heat off the Tory corruption/sleaze news!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Apr 13:43

`Greed` is OK if it`s the motivation behind developing a Covid vaccine but not if it`s threatening the British way of life as epitomised by our football clubs.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 20 Apr 14:35

Wonder if he`ll dress up as a referee ? :-))

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 20 Apr 21:07

He`s now ditched the White House-style briefings the room at Downing Street was refurbished for at a cost of £2.6m.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 21 Apr 08:25

Boris will fix it :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56819137

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 21 Apr 11:59

Nice to see the Tory mouthpiece AKA Laura Kuenssberg rushing to the defence of this government!

Reporters used to be impartial once upon a time, she's so far up his a*se that we can just about see the soles of her shoes!

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 21 Apr 15:19

Atarme aiding too, that wimp needs to call it what it is, corruption.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 23 Apr 10:21

Nice to see the saviour of English football up to his neck in it!

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/ed-woodward-boris-johnson-manchester-united-b1836076.html
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 23 Apr 19:50

OH Jings looks like Dominic is going to tell all :-


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56863547

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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Fri 23 Apr 21:06

Should just be confirming what we already knew!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 24 Apr 08:24

My thoughts as well LPF

All newspaper headlines this morning Cummings Declares War :-))

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 24 Apr 10:17

Quote:

Buspasspar, Fri 23 Apr 19:50

OH Jings looks like Dominic is going to tell all :-


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56863547


Says a lot about Cummings, too. "Hell hath no fury like a weasel scorned" to paraphrase Shakespeare.



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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sat 24 Apr 10:20

Starmer won't even be able to take advantage of it, the Tories will probably increase their lead.


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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 25 Apr 17:00

Start of the end?🤔🍾🍾🍾

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/16f78a10-a51a-11eb-be8f-c06519de93dd?shareToken=01211704f8854ca952559e3f58d9e6fa
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 25 Apr 20:12

King Lear LA .... more like King Liar .... hope you are well

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 26 Apr 10:33

👍👍👍

And Cummings has recordings!!

Getting better all the time!🤔😷😁

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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Mon 26 Apr 11:20

So a liar is calling a liar a liar.
I wonder which of the lying liars is lying, and which one isn`t.

I think Cummings is probably trying to scare Johnson but doesn`t really have any evidence. I suppose we will see in the coming days or weeks.

What is very clear is that Johnson has said or done some bad stuff, otherwise he would just call Cummings` bluff and tell him to do his worst.

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Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Mon 26 Apr 16:44

I`m pretty sure Putin has some videos from Boris`s enthusiastic participation in Bunga Bunga parties in the Umbrian hills.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 27 Apr 17:10

It keeps getting better LA :-

The High Court has decided to look into Boris Johnson`s decision that Home Secretary Priti Patel did not break Whitehall rules over bullying.

The prime minister kept Ms Patel in post last year after he found she had not breached the ministerial code, which sets behavioural standards.

But the FDA senior civil servants` union, which brought the case, argued that Mr Johnson had "erred".

The court will now give a full hearing into its claims against him.

The government opposed taking the case forward in this way, saying the ministerial code was separate from the law and should remain so.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 27 Apr 18:47

Also another case by doctors regarding PPE supplies and standards during the pandemic!

Hancock's local might be closing soon.🤔😷😁😁😁
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 28 Apr 12:32

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Tue 27 Apr 18:47

Also another case by doctors regarding PPE supplies and standards during the pandemic!

Hancock's local might be closing soon.🤔😷😁😁😁


Hancock is named in a "covid fraud" case accepted by the High court, few days ago the judge was supposed to be numbering the case, quite a big step allegedly.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 28 Apr 18:10

Now revealed that Boris is the "ultimate arbiter" in deciding whether he broke the ministerial code in the renovations row.
What a pit this country is.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 28 Apr 19:11

From Aunty 3 mins ago :-


The Electoral Commission has launched an investigation into funding of works on Boris Johnson`s Downing Street flat.


The spending watchdog said there were "reasonable grounds to suspect that an offence or offences may have occurred".

The PM is under growing pressure to declare how refurbishments were paid for after his ex-adviser said there was a plan for donors to "secretly pay".
Mr Johnson told MPs he had covered the revamp "personally", but would not say who had paid the initial bill.

And, speaking at the government`s Covid press conference, Health Secretary Matt Hancock repeatedly refused to comment on the funding of the refurbishment, urging the media to "concentrate on the big things that really matter".

OK Matt like the millions you handed out to yer mates !!!

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 12:26

Seemingly there are 9 court cases lined up and maybe a 10th against the Government.

Taxpayers money funding the defence against tax payers!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 12:44

Get Boris on his mobile! Everybody else does. He`s so approachable!

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 13:01

And his floozy going on Strictly!🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 13:26

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 30 Apr 13:01

And his floozy going on Strictly!🤬🤬🤬


Purely to humanise the pair ba*tards.

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Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 13:27

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 30 Apr 13:01

And his floozy going on Strictly!🤬🤬🤬


Carrie Antoinette?

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 30 Apr 18:20

Quote:

parsfan, Fri 30 Apr 13:27

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 30 Apr 13:01

And his floozy going on Strictly!🤬🤬🤬


Carrie Antoinette?


Aye!!!

Needs the money for decorating!🤔😡😡😡
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 3 May 17:18

£200 million Royal yacht seemingly getting announced this week!🤬

In a country where there are more food banks than there are Macdonalds burger joints, you would think that the royals would decline the offer?🤔😷😡🐷🐖🐷
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:02

LA if true that scunners me to the bone ... another £200 million to be spent on a dysfunctional family of professional leaches ... Lets hope they get Uncle Albert Gladstone Trotter to sail it :)

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:26

they`ve got no shame buspass - in fact it`s not even that, the thought won`t even cross their minds as they`re so entitled.

recent example (and i`m surprised nothing was said) when prince william `waded in` to comment on the european super league and started spouting off about how things should be based on merit

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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 3 May 18:54

£200Million would end rough sleeping in Edinburgh.

That would be a fitting tribute to Philip, but it doesn`t let them have a posh boat.


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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 5 May 12:12

New day and more scandals 🤔

Bojo's brother elevated to the board of Dyson!

Bojo had discussions about the European Super League and gave his blessing to it, only to Uturn when he saw reaction!

Hilary Clinton mentioning Russian interference in Brexit voting!

And still he leads in the polls!🤔🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 5 May 20:55

Sending a couple of gunboat down to Jersey to sort Johnny Foreigner out!!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 10 May 12:36

He`s at it again :-

Boris Johnson is being investigated by the MPs` standards watchdog over the funding of his Caribbean holiday in late 2019.

Commons standards commissioner Kathryn Stone has confirmed she is looking into whether the PM correctly declared how the trip was paid for.
Mr Johnson has previously declared he received accommodation worth £15,000, covered by businessman David Ross.

No 10 has previously said it was properly registered.

Mr Ross, a co-founder of Carphone Warehouse, initially said he did not "pay any monies" for the trip to Mustique, a private island which is part of St Vincent and the Grenadines.

He later clarified that he had "facilitated" accommodation for the prime minister, and Mr Johnson`s declaration of a "benefit in kind" was "correct"
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The prime minister took the holiday with his then-partner Carrie Symonds, now his fiancée, between Boxing Day 2019 and 5 January 2020.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 12 May 11:12

Private Eye is reporting that there has been a County Court judgement against BJ for a debt of £535 outstanding since October last year. Bailiffs at No 10?

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 12 May 13:10

Hehehe wee eck this from Aunty :-

A county court judgement has been registered against Boris Johnson`s name for an unpaid debt of £535.

The court order, which names Mr Johnson, of 10 Downing Street, was made on 26 October, according to a database of judgements.

The creditor and nature of the debt are not included in the database record, which was first reported by Private Eye magazine.

Downing Street has been contacted for a comment.
County court judgements are issued in England and Wales when people fail to repay money they owe.

"If you get a judgment, this means that the court has formally decided that you owe the money," according to a government website.

A bailiff "may visit your home if you do not pay your debts", the website warns.
Banks and loan companies can also use the information to decide whether to issue credit or loans.

"If you`re late with your payments, you could be taken back to court and you may have to pay extra costs," the website adds.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 12 May 13:14

Just heard on the radio that bailiffs are not involved for debts below £600. Carrie must have asked him to nip out and get an extra roll of wallpaper.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 12 May 16:45

Downing Street is now saying the court order against the PM is `totally without merit`.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 12 May 16:51

Hopefully they'll trash his credit file, like what happens to Joe Soap!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 22 May 13:49

So BJ his floozy and child have managed to munch their way through £27K of food in 8 months, delivered secretly through the back door!

Apparently funded by a Tory donor's wife!🤔😡😡😡
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 22 May 14:08

Yep. Spent more feeding the two of them than most families would spend in the full year. But he's one of us.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 24 May 08:30

Did you get your invite LA ... :-)

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 24 May 10:40

🤔😷🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 28 May 15:44

Well Well there you go .... Its all been a misunderstanding :-

Boris Johnson did not break the ministerial code over the funding of the Downing Street flat refurbishment, a report says.

But Lord Geidt, the prime minister`s adviser on standards, found he had "unwisely" allowed work to go ahead without "more rigorous regard" for how it would be paid for.

He found that a Tory donor had settled an invoice for some of the costs.
But Mr Johnson was unaware of this, Lord Geidt added.

This meant no conflict of interest had arisen, he said.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 28 May 15:56

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 28 May 16:41

Jeesie peeps!

Hancock cleared as well, a minor breech of ministerial code!🤔😷😡🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 28 May 16:48

Laurel and Hardy springs to mind :-

What do you mean you gave it to me?
That was the money that she gave to me and I gave it to you to give to him,
then you gave it back to me and I had to give it to her to give to him.
Was that the money that she gave to him that I gave to you to give to her?
Why certainly.
Well, if she wants to give it to him, that`s her business.
No use you and I arguing about it.

Just about sums it up really :(

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 28 May 18:34

Did anyone expect anything different? The Cabinet is corrupt to the core. Any investigation into their activities is bought and paid for, even where the are at fault then the papers will take care of that, or the royals will pop up with a story to take the heat off.
And the majority of folk are too stupid to care.
I heard a women on the radio on the day, member of the public whose elderly relative had died in a care home at the start of the Pandemic and she was still defending Boris and Matt.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 29 May 22:35

Johnson and Symonds got hitched today apparently.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 29 May 23:00

Surprised at that. Thought they would time it to bury some bad news.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 30 May 13:22

Quote:

wee eck, Sat 29 May 22:35

Johnson and Symonds got hitched today apparently.


Being suggested that it was for legal reasons, a wife cannot testify against her husband in a court of law?🤔

Members of the Catholic Church not exactly happy at him getting a church/cathedral wedding!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 30 May 16:07

Aye Nut Nuts has him by the Nut Nuts :-))

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 2 Jun 08:27

Ach just another couple of misunderstandings :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57325474

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 3 Jun 17:11

Yeah but, no but, yeah but...
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 10:59

Couldn't happen to a nicer person!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57355599.amp
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 12:00

I love this bit LA :-

Instead of self isolating for 10 days, Mr Gove will take daily Covid tests as part of a pilot scheme designed to measure testing effectiveness.

The exercise is aimed at finding safe alternatives to self-isolation.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 12:11

Now we know why they delayed taking Portugal off the green list until yesterday!

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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 12:35

The real reason Gove doesn`t need to self isolate is because scientists don`t have any proof that his species can be affected by the virus. I think the daily testing is just for show.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 13:56

Aye good point wee eck


lol aaaaaaaaaargh

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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 4 Jun 17:19

Quote:

Buspasspar, Fri 4 Jun 12:00

I love this bit LA :-

Instead of self isolating for 10 days, Mr Gove will take daily Covid tests as part of a pilot scheme designed to measure testing effectiveness.

The exercise is aimed at finding safe alternatives to self-isolation.


WTAF. Surely a way to find out if daily testing is effective is to test daily while self isolating. Once the daily testing is shown to work we can remove the self isolating part of the exercise. This could be needlessly putting the wider public at risk.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 7 Jun 10:47

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/boris-could-be-turfed-out-of-downing-street-over-bizarre-1829-law-273524/?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 7 Jun 13:22

How depressing is it that such a law still exists in the UK? Pathetic.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 27 Jun 15:35

Rumours that he has bailed out to Portugal for a wee holiday with his partner!🤔😷🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 2 Jul 19:52

Which one LA .. ? :)

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 3 Jul 17:48

Well if rumours are true, Gove could be in the running, allegedly!🤔😷😁😁😁
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 4 Jul 08:23

Like it :-))

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 27 Jul 20:54

He`s lying again :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57987932

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 27 Jul 23:46

What did we expect from a criminal and his gang?🤔😷😡😡😡🐷🐷🐷
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 28 Jul 08:17

The SNP did the exact same with their nurse figures a few years ago.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 28 Jul 09:32

Yeah, but a prime minister doing it daily?🤔😡
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 28 Jul 10:28

Agree. I was reading yesterday that Patel wants new legislation to allow offenders to be cleaning up communities (effectively chain gangs). I was under the impression we already had this. There used to be a sign in Townhill that said the flower beds had been done as part of Community payback.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 28 Jul 20:26

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-07-28/innova-pasaca-covid-17-antigen-test-british-uk-government?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 30 Jul 08:23

Off course there is no connection to Tory Policy who could ever think that
From the F.T. :-

https://www.ft.com/content/c5737fbb-2893-4a5a-be5e-965785f1a37b


looks like the link is not working heres the old way :-


The Conservative party has received almost £18m in donations from 154 donors with property interests since Boris Johnson became UK prime minister two years ago, according to Financial Times analysis.

The donations made by individuals and companies in the property sector — which account for a quarter of total donations made to the Tory party since July 2019 — come as Johnson pushes ahead with a contentious liberalisation of England’s planning system which critics say could benefit housing developers.

An FT analysis of data published by the Electoral Commission, the UK watchdog for election and party finance, found that at least £17.9m has been given to the Conservative party from property sector donors since July 24, 2019 — when Johnson entered Downing Street. The analysis includes all company donors and those who have given over £100,000 but excludes hundreds of individuals who gave smaller amounts, meaning the true figure could be higher.

Annual property sector donations to the Conservative party under Johnson’s predecessors — Theresa May and David Cameron — ranged from 4 per cent to 12 per cent of the party’s income in the years 2010 to 2018, according to Transparency International UK. The majority of the party’s income comes from donations.

The new FT analysis of donations includes property developers, financiers and investors, as well as hotel tycoons and residential care home developers and operators.

The most generous property donor since Johnson took power in 2019 was Sir Tony Gallagher, the billionaire property developer, who has given £1.5m through his company Countywide Developments. Gallagher was knighted in 2020 for services to land development and property. Gallagher Developments did not respond to a request for comment.

Steve Morgan, former chair of Redrow, one of the UK’s biggest housebuilders, gave £1.25m through Bridgemere UK PLC, his development and investment group. The group is controlled by a Morgan family trust.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 31 Jul 15:55

So he's popped Carrie again, isolation must have worked!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 17:58

In other Boris Johnson-related news, the Guardian’s Scotland editor, Severin Carrell, writes:

Police Scotland has saved itself from a diplomatic and political gaffe after an attentive officer realised that calling its special security operation to protect the prime minister, Boris Johnson, Operation Bunter might cause problems.

The name was apparently allocated by the force’s computer from a list of pre-selected names, the Scottish Sun has reported, before an officer drew Police Scotland back from the brink and changed it, to Operation Aeration.

The prime minister is thought to be planning a visit to Scotland later this week, to promote his government’s case against independence. There are hints some members of the force enjoyed the joke, before the operation was renamed.

The Sun quoted an “insider” saying: “Operation Aeration was selected as the alternative. But I’m not sure moving away from Billy Bunter to a name that implies the PM is full of air is much of an improvement.”

The paper’s source said: “The name ‘Operation Bunter’ was given to the preparations. But several people pointed out the foolishness of calling it after a fat, posh English public schoolboy - not least given the PM is known for being a bit portly.”

Police Scotland refused to comment on the mechanics of the decision, but a spokesperson said: “Operational names are auto-generated by computer and can be changed if deemed to be inappropriate.”

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 2 Aug 18:00

Now that made me chuckle wee eck :)

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 6 Aug 08:37

Likes a joke apparently :-

Margaret Thatcher gave the UK "a big early start" in the move away from coal-fired power by closing "so many coal mines", Boris Johnson has said.

"We`re now down to less than 2%, I think it`s I% of our energy comes from coal," the prime minister added.

He was speaking on a visit to an offshore wind farm in the Moray Firth.
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the comments were "crass and deeply insensitive" to mining communities.

She tweeted: "Lives and communities in Scotland were utterly devastated by Thatcher`s destruction of the coal industry (which had zero to do with any concern she had for the planet)."

Labour said he should apologise for the "shameful" comments.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 6 Aug 09:08

Nice to see that he's still diplomatic in his comments!

Who is the lady still stuck in an Iranian jail, thanks to a certain foreign secretary's comments?🤔🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 6 Aug 10:02

Correct LA ... Hope you and Mrs. LA are making a full recovery

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 6 Aug 10:40

That`s the sort of crack which might raise a laugh amongst a bunch of mates in the pub but the PM saying it to a bunch of journos is another matter altogether. Sometimes he just can`t help himself.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 6 Aug 11:13

Quote:

Buspasspar, Fri 6 Aug 10:02

Correct LA ... Hope you and Mrs. LA are making a full recovery


Doing alright, back at EEP a huge boost!

Nieces wedding today, so both looking smart.😷👍🍾
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 12:19

So BJ started his holidays on Saturday, his deputy was also away on holiday, not forseeing the emerging crisis in Afghanistan.

Now being critisised as a dereliction of duties by several sources, do they only care about themselves?🤔😡

Surely both encumbants should not be on holiday at the same time?

A rudderless ship comes to mind!
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 17:14

BJ has been on holiday since about 1997


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 17 Aug 18:31

Iceland apparently :)

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 19 Aug 15:59

Couldn't even stay for the full Westminster debate yesterday, apparently had a lunch date with Conservative donors!

They really don't give a s*it about anyone but themselves!🤬
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 10:10

His plan for an underwater tunnel between Scotland and N Ireland is dead in the water after the Treasury dismissed it as part of their spending review..

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Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 11:53

Oh dear, that’s the diversion round a Scotland in the EU hard border with England up the spout!

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 12:57

What's happened?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 13:08

Another u turn coming with regards to vaccination passports!
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 13:41

U turn in Scotland or England?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 14 Sep 15:25

England
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 17 Sep 10:01

Going back to imperial measures now!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 17 Sep 10:41

I never stoped using them L.A :-))

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Fri 17 Sep 12:46

I get the one benefit (you can halve, quarter and third a foot into a whole number of inches)...

But I'll stick to a base 10 system thanks - much easier
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 17 Sep 13:53

He now has to decide whether Chevening, the country home traditionally made available to the Foreign Secretary, should go to Liz Truss or stay with Dominic Raab after his `demotion` to Deputy Prime Minister.

Decisions, decisions...

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 18 Sep 06:52

Imperial measures are a nonsense.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 28 Sep 10:47

Anyone seen Bojo?

Country grinding to a standstill, please check your fridge freezers!

He's maybe on an HGV course?🤔
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 28 Sep 16:23

I can just see the Clown on his next dress up photo shoot LA .. behind the wheel of a petrol tanker on his way to save England

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 28 Sep 18:17

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 18 Sep 06:52

Imperial measures are a nonsense.

I`ll bet you six pounds eleven and nine pence they are not jake89

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 28 Sep 20:16

Quote:

Buspasspar, Tue 28 Sep 16:23

I can just see the Clown on his next dress up photo shoot LA .. behind the wheel of a petrol tanker on his way to save England


With a Yorkie bar in his hand!😷😲
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 6 Oct 19:46

The ring master or the clown ?



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58822990

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 11 Oct 11:26

Away on his jollys again, UK collapsing and BJ takes a holiday!

Luxury villa in Marbella supplied by hedge fund manager and tax avoider!🤬🤬🤬

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 11 Oct 12:15

And a Peer LA .. awarded by Boris the Brave :-((

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Mon 11 Oct 14:33

In 1978 PM Jim Callaghan was holed below the waterline when he was interviewed coming back from a conference in Guadeloupe at a time when many public sector workers were taking strike action. `Crisis? What Crisis?` was the Sun headline alongside a photo of a well-tanned Sunny Jim.

Boris Johnson can expect a much easier ride of course, otherwise he would never have gone off in the first place. The celebrity worship which has developed as part of our culture, a modern form of serfdom really, allows Johnson to quite openly turn his back on the UK and be applauded for doing so by his support base. `We need a fresh Boris back at the helm` type of rot.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 13 Oct 17:17

Thank goodness we have reached an agreement :-

Liz Truss and Dominic Raab are to share the grace-and-favour Chevening House mansion, ending a row between them over who should have access to it.

The foreign secretary and deputy PM had been at loggerheads over the Grade 1-listed, 115-room country house in Kent since last month`s cabinet reshuffle.

But Prime Minister Boris Johnson has decided they should both have use of it for personal and work use.

The building was gifted to the nation in the 1950s.
Since then, it has been up to the prime minister to decide who uses Chevening, with the foreign secretary the usual beneficiary.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 13 Oct 20:04

Phew! The last thing we'd want would be anyone to be upset...or how about these plebs get on with running the country rather than arguing about who gets to use a big house?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 13 Oct 20:12

correct jake 115 rooms 2 for Raab 2 for Lizzie and the rest for the homeless .. now theres a plan :)

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 13 Oct 20:36

Let`s hope they don`t both turn up for the same weekend.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 13 Oct 21:34

Like it wee eck

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 14 Oct 11:01

I see some doubt is now being expressed over the recent photo of Johnson painting whilst on holiday on the Costa del Fortune. There`s a suggestion it may have been staged to make him look like his hero, Winston Churchill.

Reflecting on the proposal that the Foreign Secretary and the Deputy Prime Minister should share Chevening House, maybe Liz and Dom could make a joint application to enter it for that reality TV programme `Four in a Bed`.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 24 Oct 20:13

COP26 will be interesting with Tories voting through raw sewage being disposed of in rivers and eventually the sea, causing a real stooshy down South.

Scottish Tories also supported the vote even though it does not apply in Scotland, some English counties being advised to boil their water and some beaches out of bounds already.

This appears to be another benefit of Brexit along with millions of gallons of human sh*t on its way from Holland to be spread on fields, something not allowed in the EU.

Meanwhile BJ sits in his private cinema watching the new James Bond film!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 24 Oct 21:08

Raw sewage and farm waste have been disposed in our braw rivers for years L.A. albeit against the current sepa legislation .. Rivers and burns that were full of red breesties, stickle backs, minnows, katie beardies, pin heids, and brown trout have been systematically poisoned for years with very little investigation or charges against the disposers

Human sh1te has been spread for 2 years by a farmer down the road from me every one in the immediate area had sore throats and felt sick I phoned the envronmenmental health who said they had hundreds of calls and they had a man on site to investigate

bottom line .. fekin hee haw done and he did it again this year

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 25 Oct 10:27

Seems they are not bothered about the fine for dumping, found it was cheaper to bribe a tory!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 25 Oct 10:31

BPP thought the days of closed beaches and bans on swimming were a thing of the past?

The shellfish population down South will also be toxic.

Meanwhile our national broadcaster is silent!🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 25 Oct 11:27

It really is pathetic LA
Hope you are well

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 25 Oct 13:59

Doing OK, 4 weeks in Tenerife has got me back to my fighting weight!🤣🤣🤣

It was safer over there, facemasks in doors a must, shouted at if not complying, no shortages apart from them running out of Guinness!
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 25 Oct 17:44

There was a good piece on the radio yesterday about farming and the environment. Really good activist raising concerns about pollution in the Wye Valley. Rather than finger pointing she was going out her way to speak to farmers and understand why they would do things like spreading cake (feces) on the fields. What was interesting was the farmer explaining they thought of spreading the manure on the fields as environmentally friendly but weren't as aware of the impact on the river and surrounding wildlife.

This problem needs to be tackled but it definitely can't be done on the basis of ordering farmers to stop doing what they have probably done for years. The issue now is more related to the intensity of the farming and the number of animal farms, particularly chicken farms.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 4 Nov 19:37

From Aunty :-

Boris Johnson has confirmed he stayed for free at a holiday home owned by the family of Lord Zac Goldsmith - who received a peerage from the PM in 2019.

The list of ministers` interests says the PM has "a longstanding personal friendship" with the family and "in that capacity" stayed at their place in southern Spain last month.

Downing Street had previously refused to confirm if the trip had happened.
Labour said it was "more evidence of the sleaze engulfing this government".

"It`s obvious to everyone that the prime minister is dishing out cushy jobs to his mate who pays for his luxury holidays," said the party`s deputy leader Angela Rayner.

"Yet again Boris Johnson behaves like it`s one rule for him and another for everyone else."

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 5 Nov 16:15


I wonder what the outcome of all this will be .. Right first time Hee Haw .. give the man a cigar



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56926219

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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Fri 5 Nov 16:21

So our Prime Minister (who apparently won third prize in a competition to make Winston Churchill out of marshmallows) claims to be so stupid as to not believe that a valuable gift from someone he gave a peerage and a cushy job to doesn't count because they are friends.

Actually Boris, that counts even more ya dafty, you are Prime Minister and really can't be giving your pals jobs or taking valuable (worth tens of thousands apparently) gifts from them. It looks corrupt. It is corrupt.


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 6 Nov 12:27

John Major not missing Boris or his beloved party :-


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59188972



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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 8 Nov 09:02

Seen exiting the back door of no 10 this morning, heading for Doncaster, anything to avoid Westminster today, where he is supposed to apologise for last weeks s*it show!💩💩💩🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 8 Nov 09:15

Similarly, the Daily Mirror says police are coming "under pressure" to investigate the accusation the Conservative Party was giving places in the House of Lords to multimillionaire donors.

The paper quotes Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, who has accused the prime minister of being "up to his neck" in sleaze.

The government has defended the peerages, saying they were philanthropists who were successful in business and ought to be considered for the Lords, the paper adds.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 8 Nov 09:36

Yeah, I suppose Michelle Mone came into that category?🤔😷💩
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 9 Nov 13:00

Boris the Brave hiding from scrutiny again ..missing yesterday in Parliament



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Topic Originator: rawpars  
Date:   Tue 9 Nov 20:25

I cannot stand Boris but what annoys me is that living in England the idiots love him down here

My mate Boris
Our Boris

And it`s the elderly Brexit generation that voted for this corrupt clown and at the moment he could murder someone and they would still vote for him

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 10 Nov 00:15

Be careful not to mistake manufactured media popularity for the real deal. The media create the image of `Boris`- not a name he is known by to family and friends- in much the same way they created an image of Iron Lady `Maggie` (who was never called Maggie to her face in her life. The articles and selected photographs of Johnson are generally very flattering and used to create the image of a national leader. The reality is that he would struggle to walk down any high street in any town in England without being jostled. Granted Johnson is more acceptable to a chunk of the English electorate in a way unimaginable in Scotland, but that falls well short of being widely popular.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 14 Nov 19:24

Oh Jings Jennifer is back :-

Extraordinary details of how Boris Johnson allegedly overruled the advice of staff to promote the business interests of his former lover Jennifer Arcuri and win her affections are revealed in previously unpublished diary extracts by the US businesswoman.

According to one entry, the then London mayor even offered to be her “throttle” in an attempt to accelerate her business career, claims that may reopen the possibility of Johnson facing a potential criminal investigation into misconduct allegations.

The diary entries – which appear to have been written during Arcuri’s affair with Johnson and have been seen by the Observer – also suggest that he broke the rules governing ethical conduct in public office in his dealings with Arcuri.

I`ll bet he could throttle her now :-))

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 18 Nov 19:25

The government has scrapped the Leeds leg of the HS2 high-speed rail line as part of a package that ministers promise will transform services.

The prime minister told the BBC the overhaul would mean faster travel up to 10 years earlier than planned and end the need to "plough through villages".

The package won support from some business leaders, and anti-HS2 groups.
But Boris Johnson faced criticism that he had reneged on investment promises to the Midlands and north of England.

Faster travel from where to where Boris the Brave ?

Also are these the same villages that were never even given consideration under the original Plan ??

Worst Government and worst Lying P.M. in my lifetime

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 19 Nov 11:55

Hearing he's getting ready to ditch the lovely Carrie!

Stating "Buyer's Remorse"🤔🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 19 Nov 15:55

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/johnson-tried-to-joke-his-way-out-of-this-crisis-but-his-mps-aren-t-laughing-any-more/ar-AAQRHiL?cvid=568fa17e6f834074a030a05838767c95&ocid=winp1taskbar

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 19 Nov 17:07

#Toryscum #Torylies #Torycorruption
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 21 Nov 11:41

Ah well, get the popcorn out!🍿

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/20/fresh-prospect-of-criminal-inquiry-for-boris-johnson-after-jennifer-arcuri-agrees-to-assist-ethics-watchdog
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 21 Nov 15:13

Hehehehe get the kettle oan L.A. :-))

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 23 Nov 09:35

If anyone was in any doubt that Boris has lost the plot this might help convince you :-
His speech in front of the CBI

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59381775

eta link not working Wonder if the beeb have removed it ?

Try the youtube one :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBktY__3Wls


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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 23 Nov 10:23

BBC seemed to avoid the full "car crash" only transmitting snippets.

Nice to know that those attending the Conservative winter ball at £30K a head were transported back to Westminster to vote for the Social Care Bill!🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Fri 26 Nov 13:59

https://archive.md/2021.11.26-085540/https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2021/11/the-joke-isnt-funny-anymore.html
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 26 Nov 14:30

Good read Tenruh

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 29 Nov 18:51

Interesting debate scheduled for tomorrow!

Tomorrow time in the Commons has been set aside for a debate on a motion chosen by the SNP. The party has announced that it is tabling a censure motion against Boris Johnson. The motion says:

That, this House censures the prime minister, the right honourable member for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, for frequently violating the sixth principle of public life, for seeking to undermine the recommendations of the standards committee on Owen Paterson, for regularly ignoring independent advice on matters such as international treaties and breaches of the ministerial code by his ministers, for putting forward proposals to diminish the powers of the Electoral Commission, for ignoring independent advice concerning the granting of peerages to Conservative party donors and nominations to public bodies such as Ofcom; and further calls for his ministerial salary to be reduced by £41,567 per year.

The sixth principle of public life, as drawn up by the Nolan committee, is honesty. “Holders of public office should be truthful,” the Nolan principles say.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 29 Nov 19:21

Very Interesting wee eck .. I wonder how many times he will point .. shake his fist .. look behind him for support .. and not answer any questions :-)

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 30 Nov 16:24

Debate just starting; doesn`t look like BJ is in attendance.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 30 Nov 18:16

Check your fridge wee eck :-))

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 30 Nov 19:22

Total deflection by the Tories refusing to debate the topic under discussion.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 14:32

Reported in the Guardian -

Support for Scottish independence has hit a recent high of 55%, according to an Ipsos Mori poll for STV that contradicts a recent downturn in the yes vote.

Ipsos MORI found that, counting only those certain to vote and excluding don’t know, the yes vote had a 10-point lead over no, at 45%. Most recent polls by other companies have put the no vote ahead, by between two to six points.

Rather than the panels of voters polled over the internet used by most pollsters, Ipsos Mori uses telephone polling of random voters – a technique it regards as superior. It recorded a record yes vote of 58% last year (a figure not directly comparable with figures from other pollsters, because its methodology is different).

Ipsos also registered the lowest satisfaction for Boris Johnson it has recorded for Scotland, putting it at 16%. With don’t knows at 4%, it found 80% of Scottish voters were dissatisfied with the prime minister’s performance. In April this year, with the Covid vaccination programme underway, Johnson saw his best Ipsos rating in Scotland: 27% positive against 64% negative.

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 18:26

Is cold calling the best way?

What phone numbers do they use - land line? Don’t have a house phone even plugged in

- mobile? unknown callers very rarely answered and on the odd occasion I answer as soon as I hear a voice that sounds like it wants to sell me stuff/ask for details it’s hung up and number added to blocked caller list
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 19:11

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DBP, Wed 1 Dec 18:26

Is cold calling the best way?

What phone numbers do they use - land line? Don’t have a house phone even plugged in

- mobile? unknown callers very rarely answered and on the odd occasion I answer as soon as I hear a voice that sounds like it wants to sell me stuff/ask for details it’s hung up and number added to blocked caller list


Agreed. We have a landline but it's not plugged in. I also ignore unknown numbers.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 19:18

Somebody must be answering their phone calls. You could equally ask how online polls work. Do respondents volunteer to reply after they know the question?

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 19:29

I used to have these arguments with researchers in my old work. All the surveying was done on the street, during the day. So who are you surveying:

Old people
Stay at home parents
Unemployed
Students

The vast majority would be at this place called "work". They also located in certain places like shopping centres. Imagine the Kingsgate at 11am on a Tuesday!
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 20:04

I`m not clear what point you`re making. Polling has been going on for years and the pollsters are careful to ensure as far as possible that their samples are representative of the whole population. I presume that`s the case regardless of the method of contact.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 1 Dec 21:56

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 1 Dec 19:29

I used to have these arguments with researchers in my old work. All the surveying was done on the street, during the day. So who are you surveying:

Old people
Stay at home parents
Unemployed
Students

The vast majority would be at this place called "work". They also located in certain places like shopping centres. Imagine the Kingsgate at 11am on a Tuesday!

Jake with respect are you saying these people you have highlighted have no right to an opinion or have an adverse effect on the poll ? And the people who you think are working have a greater right to an opinion and a truer effect on the poll ?

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 07:47

No, not at all. What I`m pointing out is these surveys miss out an enormous group of people on the basis of carrying out surveys when they are unavailable. They are therefore massively flawed.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 07:51

Quote:

wee eck, Wed 1 Dec 20:04

I`m not clear what point you`re making. Polling has been going on for years and the pollsters are careful to ensure as far as possible that their samples are representative of the whole population. I presume that`s the case regardless of the method of contact.


And this may explain why in recent years the polls have generally been massively out. So many people do not have landlines and mobiles give them the opportunity to easily see who is calling. Therefore, you do not get access to as wide a spectrum of voters.

I realise they go for quotas but it depends how they address those quotas and if their approach is robust enough to ensure they reflect the primary groups in the country. Recent polls suggest not.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 08:28

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Dec 07:47

No, not at all. What I`m pointing out is these surveys miss out an enormous group of people on the basis of carrying out surveys when they are unavailable. They are therefore massively flawed.


Shift workers Jake ?

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 09:09

Yes, they exist...

There are approximately 2.4m working adults in Scotland. Most of them work fairly standard day shifts. If someone is doing a poll during the day where they phone a landline, who is answering?

These polls need to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. If we trusted the polls then Scotland would be independent, we would still be in Europe and Gareth Gates would have won Pop Idol.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 09:45

It makes you wonder why businesses, political parties, media outlets etc keep on commissioning them and why a distinguished academic like Sir John Curtice spends so much time interpreting them. Of course if they don`t produce the result you want you can always discredit them.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 10:53

Just to add that most people have some doubts about the accuracy of polls but I think quite a lot of `science` goes into selecting the sample. This most recent poll had a lot more information in it than what was stated above in the Guardian report. It was discussed on STV last night and the results were analysed by age and gender, for example, so the pollsters must know quite a lot about the respondents.

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 11:22

https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2021/12/this-rips-up-everything-we-thought-we.html

Bit more info here

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 17:19

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Dec 09:09

Yes, they exist...

There are approximately 2.4m working adults in Scotland. Most of them work fairly standard day shifts. If someone is doing a poll during the day where they phone a landline, who is answering?

Interesting jake I wonder if we deduct the shift workers below and thats not them all How many of your approx 2.4m would be left

Police
Firemen
nurses
auxiliary`s
hospitality staff
catering staff
supermarket staff
retail staff
printers
cinema staff
ambulance drivers/paramedics
etc.etc.etc.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 17:45

Late/night shift work consists of around 10% of the working population. It`s actually gone down a fair bit in Scotland.

Your average Scot works daytime hours doing around 38hours p/w.

Put it this way, the community surveys carried out in my old job were done in such a way that no-one in my office (people who were a target demographic) would ever be able to do the survey.

It`s interesting to see phone is seen as more trustworthy than online polls. I`d imagine people would be more honest on an online poll than with someone on the phone. I imagine the lack of trust is due to potential tampering.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 19:43

Understand jake .. its such a pity that the actual people who are surveyed are less competent to influence the said survey than folk in your office .. btw its actually gone up by 17% in Scotland

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 21:31

“Of course if they don`t produce the result you want you can always discredit them.”

Not sure who that is aimed at, but wanting the result proposed and questioning the veracity of the proposal are not mutually exclusive.

I voted yes last time and will be an even stronger yes next time, but that doesn’t mean I blindly believe telephoned polls.
The only polls that count are those on Election Day and as the people of Scotland gave a mandate for indy2 (and not for the first time!) - that means nobody can deny us referendum and then pretend they are even remotely democratic
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 2 Dec 23:04

It was aimed at interested parties who tend to underplay their significance when results are not in their favour. It wasn`t aimed at anyone in particular. I think the polling companies try to make them as accurate as possible.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 10:35

I used to work for Ipsos Mori...it`s just a random sample of phone numbers picked with a standard question set, as far as I know they aren`t plucked ftom any sort of postcode or demographic.
I used to do the political opinion polls, it`s fair to say there are certain types who will take the time to answer whilst others not interested.
In my time working there I can honestly say I didn`t see any attempts to "load" the results in favour of any particular outcome and calls were made both inside and outside normal working hours...

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 15:44

Merry Christmas to all in Downing Street :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-59514568

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 17:19

Nice to see the Met Police being bombarded with written complaints about the festivities, but will it do any good?

Suggestions that the Met would be complicit due to them guarding the gates to Downing Street!❤😷🤬
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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 17:36

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 3 Dec 17:19

Nice to see the Met Police being bombarded with written complaints about the festivities, but will it do any good?

Suggestions that the Met would be complicit due to them guarding the gates to Downing Street!❤😷🤬


The Met probably supplied the coke and waved in the underage rent boys tbh
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 18:39

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Rastapari, Fri 3 Dec 10:35

I used to work for Ipsos Mori...it`s just a random sample of phone numbers picked with a standard question set, as far as I know they aren`t plucked ftom any sort of postcode or demographic.
I used to do the political opinion polls, it`s fair to say there are certain types who will take the time to answer whilst others not interested.
In my time working there I can honestly say I didn`t see any attempts to "load" the results in favour of any particular outcome and calls were made both inside and outside normal working hours...


I briefly worked there too. My lasting memory was of the guy who mysteriously couldn`t provide his National Insurance details and asked about being paid cash!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 3 Dec 19:05

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 3 Dec 17:19

Nice to see the Met Police being bombarded with written complaints about the festivities, but will it do any good?

Suggestions that the Met would be complicit due to them guarding the gates to Downing Street!❤😷🤬


Number of parties now running into double figures, seems to be gaining momentum, though MSM ignoring the growing scandal!
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 07:43

Are you asking yourself what they AREN`T scared of yet or are you just going to continue accepting your rights being stripped?
What is it? 4 jabs to be fully vaccinated and "free"?
Well until next week`s variant.
I don`t know for a deadly virus the rich and powerful aren`t particularly worried, just a pleb virus.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 4 Dec 12:30

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Rastapari, Sat 4 Dec 07:43

Are you asking yourself what they AREN`T scared of yet or are you just going to continue accepting your rights being stripped?
What is it? 4 jabs to be fully vaccinated and "free"?
Well until next week`s variant.
I don`t know for a deadly virus the rich and powerful aren`t particularly worried, just a pleb virus.


It`s three jabs.

They would likely be perfectly fine, but the NHS won`t be. Of course, it suits them to overburden the NHS. Helps them justify privatising it like they privatised the railways. Run it into the ground, sell it off and then end up paying subsidies to private companies owned by their pals.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 14:57

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 3 Dec 19:05

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 3 Dec 17:19

Nice to see the Met Police being bombarded with written complaints about the festivities, but will it do any good?

Suggestions that the Met would be complicit due to them guarding the gates to Downing Street!❤😷🤬


Number of parties now running into double figures, seems to be gaining momentum, though MSM ignoring the growing scandal!


So Raab on telly this morning saying police don`t need to investigate incidents from a year ago, that`ll be good news to criminals!

Keep shovelling guys!🤔😷💩💩💩
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 16:09

I hope Alex isn`t banned by his party from campaigning during IndyRef2 as he`d be the Yes side`s biggest asset every time he opens his gob.

Sadly, I think he`ll be long gone by then.


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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 17:11

I did some shoplifting last Christmas so I`m pleased to hear it won`t be taken any further. The Tories are great.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 5 Dec 17:38

Another scandal emerging?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/drugs-westminster-speaker-hoyle-police-b1970106.html
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 6 Dec 16:45

From Aunty :-

The government will aim to provide rehab for 300,000 drug users who carry out half of all shop thefts, robberies and burglaries, Boris Johnson has said.

The prime minister said the 10-year strategy for England and Wales would also tackle 2,000 county lines gangs.

The £300m gangs crackdown will be joined by the "largest ever investment in treatment", the government said.

Other measures include using dealers` seized phones to message clients and discourage drug use.

It would appear he doesn`t have far to look for them :)

The strategy comes as the House of Commons Speaker promised to raise allegations that drugs were being used in Parliament with the Metropolitan Police, after the Sunday Times found traces of cocaine in lavatory areas.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 6 Dec 19:27

Wow he is brave after all .. was he first in ? I never noticed suits the uniform tho ..what a total embarrassment !!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/middle-class-drug-users-face-loss-of-passports-and-driving-licences-9j3z0l3kw

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 7 Dec 18:01

Christmas partygate continues, but latest revelation is that Boris said rescue the animals over rescuing civilians from Afghanistan!

Stated in a government enquiry this afternoon, already being denied by BJ, all senior civil servants were on holiday when evacuation was going on, who the f*ck was running the country?
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 7 Dec 20:09

Footage has now appeared of Downing St staff rehearsing how to deal with questions at a media conference if news of the `party` comes to light. They really seem to think they are untouchable. The mystery is how has it taken a year for this to come to public attention?

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 08:34

Saw that wee eck .. also a leaked letter proving BJ did sanction airlifting animals from Afghanistan although he denied live on air yesterday

All this while the foreign office chief spent an extra 11 days on holiday
As L.A. says who the f*ck was running the country

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 10:08

Nice to see the civil service turning into whistleblowers, something deeper going on?

I`ll get the popcorn out 🤔😷🍿
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 10:50

No Tory minister was out doing the media interviews this morning. Sajid Javid was down to go but didn`t show. PMQs should be interesting today.

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:25

Say what you like about Nicola Sturgeon, but she always faces up to the cameras and answers whatever questions are put to her. This government go into hiding whenever they have a problem. It`s a shameful, cowardly way to conduct themselves. They should always be answerable to the public
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:26

PMQs is just farcical. There`s no pressure to actually answer the question and Johnson just persisted with his ridiculous position that there was no party but all rules were followed!

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 13:41

``The mystery is how has it taken a year for this to come to public attention?``

Editors will sit on stories, having agreed some sort of truce with political power brokers, until the moment is right. The Daily Mail headline today: ‘The Party is Over’ is preparing the ground for Johnson to be replaced as Tory leader since he is struggling to command the trust of those who arranged for his ludicrous coronation. The Xmas party story will have been known for some time.

What would have previously been toned down in MSM is now being reported quite openly. Starmer, for once, hit the jackpot today when he contrasted the Queen at her husband’s funeral with the frolicking at Downing Street: not even the Telegraph or the Daily Express can argue with him over that.

Johnson might be more use to his party as an ex-PM since all the problems with Covid, Brexit, NI border controls, Afghan hounds, frozen pensions and outrageous corruption in Covid contracts can be laid at his door. A metaphorical public hanging of Johnson and his wife would go down very well with the electorate. Enter Rishi Sunak, the man so rich he has no need to fiddle the system, and the Tories then have a sensible front man to lead their next election bid.

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 14:43

Quote:

red-star-par, Wed 8 Dec 13:25

Say what you like about Nicola Sturgeon, but she always faces up to the cameras and answers whatever questions are put to her. This government go into hiding whenever they have a problem. It`s a shameful, cowardly way to conduct themselves. They should always be answerable to the public


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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 15:36

So assuming he cancels Christmas again becuaes of the moronic variant....Will you be obeying?

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 16:05

Allegra Stratton has resigned as a government adviser following an angry backlash over a video of No 10 staff joking about holding a Christmas party.

The video, obtained by ITV, was leaked on Tuesday, showing the PM`s then-press secretary mocking a "fictional" gathering - four days after Downing Street staff held a party in lockdown.

Delivering tearful statement, she said would "regret the remarks for the rest of my days".

And she offered her "profound apologies" to the public.

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 17:07

Stratton will be back. She’s done this apology routine before after haranguing a single mother on Newsnight some years ago. She suggested the mother was a sponger, unlike Stratton no doubt who gets paid over £100,000 for being a ‘government adviser.’ Or courtier as they were called in times past.

Her husband is best chums with Sunak whilst she attended the same private school as Johnson’s latest wife. She represents an entire class of media that comes from a privileged background and works in the interests of maintaining inherited power and wealth. Any tears she sheds will be for herself.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 17:13

Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 8 Dec 15:36

So assuming he cancels Christmas again becuaes of the moronic variant....Will you be obeying?


NO

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 17:27

Gaun yersel Dougie :-

Boris Johnson must resign if he misled Parliament about a Christmas party at Downing Street, the Scottish Conservative leader says.

Douglas Ross says there had clearly been a party of some sort, which would have been against Covid rules.

Ross says he had been "angry, annoyed and really disappointed" at the video that emerged on Tuesday night.

He says he still had confidence in the prime minister to lead the country, but added it would be "completely unacceptable" if he was found to have misled parliament on the issue.

Ross says: "If the prime minister knew about this party last December, knew about this party last week, and was still denying it, then that is the most serious allegation.

"There is absolutely no way you can mislead parliament and think you could get off with that."

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Topic Originator: charlie1  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 17:42

Quote:

Rastapari, Wed 8 Dec 15:36

So assuming he cancels Christmas again becuaes of the moronic variant....Will you be obeying?


Back to your idiotic ways!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 18:44

Seems that Cummings holds the key, rumours that there were 3 parties held, BJ was at one of them apparently!🤔😷🎩🤬🎩🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 19:07

He made an appearance at one allegedly L.A. The retirement leaving do a few days after the one in question .. I despise the man

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 8 Dec 21:23

Rastapari was the first person on this site, over a year ago, who forecast that the restrictions placed on citizens would not apply to those in power. He was adopting an anarchist perspective which is almost unheard of in the UK but nonetheless chimes with many lower down the social order. Maybe he was more pleb than anarchist. It turns out he was right.

At the time he was largely ignored, rather than argued against. At that time anyone screaming for harsher lockdowns was a patriot. In fact, probably still is.

Now the mask has slipped we see that those who were ordering restrictions never truly believed in them being useful themselves. They knew it was a means of control, albeit for a genuine health danger, but could see the opportunity to control the public. This was pointed out by myself and others some time ago and the biggest viral threat to our lives is not Covid: it is government UK.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 03:50

Not true. Lockdown IS an effective way of controlling the virus. They know it works when the vast majority adhere to it, they are just prepared to make themselves the few who don’t. Not because they don’t believe it will work but because they don’t want to be lumbered with the same restrictions.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 07:54

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dd23, Thu 9 Dec 03:50

Not true. Lockdown IS an effective way of controlling the virus. They know it works when the vast majority adhere to it, they are just prepared to make themselves the few who don’t. Not because they don’t believe it will work but because they don’t want to be lumbered with the same restrictions.


Exactly. The issue here isn`t the approach, it`s that there is a lack of buy-in to the approach amongst the public, partly because of idiots like Johnson who continually flout the rules.

Catherine Calderwood was caught sneaking to her second home in Elie to "check on it". She resigned.

Nicola Sturgeon was too close to a couple of people at a wake. She apologised.

Margaret Ferrier broke the rules. She was chastised by her boss and will appear in court.

So what of all the allegations against Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Cummings etc?

They`re sat in London, snorting coke in the toilets, refusing to follow the laws they pass and then laughing. The worst bit is that people will STILL vote for them.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 08:33

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sammer, Wed 8 Dec 21:23

Rastapari was the first person on this site, over a year ago, who forecast that the restrictions placed on citizens would not apply to those in power. He was adopting an anarchist perspective which is almost unheard of in the UK but nonetheless chimes with many lower down the social order. Maybe he was more pleb than anarchist. It turns out he was right.

At the time he was largely ignored, rather than argued against. At that time anyone screaming for harsher lockdowns was a patriot. In fact, probably still is.

Now the mask has slipped we see that those who were ordering restrictions never truly believed in them being useful themselves. They knew it was a means of control, albeit for a genuine health danger, but could see the opportunity to control the public. This was pointed out by myself and others some time ago and the biggest viral threat to our lives is not Covid: it is government UK.


Oh come on....a bunch of immature kids doesn`t represent the whole of government applying rules on others but not themselves.

There were always going to be a few who broke the rules given the number of people involved.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 08:40

Ah well, that`ll be that then!🤔😷🎩🤬🎩🤬🐷💩

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/12/08/boris-johnson-blocks-investigation-into-his-attendance-at-downing-street-lockdown-parties/
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 10:10

Yet another whitewash L.A. They are laughing at us

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 10:48

The party which allegedly took place on 27 Nov and which Johnston may have attended will be part of the investigation apparently as well as the one on 18 Dec and one at the Dept of Education on 10 Dec.

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 15:41

Had another kid today for him to lose count of.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 16:47

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sammer, Wed 8 Dec 21:23

Rastapari was the first person on this site, over a year ago, who forecast that the restrictions placed on citizens would not apply to those in power. He was adopting an anarchist perspective which is almost unheard of in the UK but nonetheless chimes with many lower down the social order. Maybe he was more pleb than anarchist. It turns out he was right.

At the time he was largely ignored, rather than argued against. At that time anyone screaming for harsher lockdowns was a patriot. In fact, probably still is.



The restrictions applied to ALL, so what`s being suggested here is incorrect. The reality is that certain people in Government chose to disregard the rules. They weren`t alone by any means. Lots of people decided they didn`t need to isolate or stay within 5 miles of home or whatever.
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 19:08

`Oh come on....a bunch of immature kids doesn`t represent the whole of government applying rules on others but not themselves.
There were always going to be a few who broke the rules given the number of people involved.`

That`s what the government would like us to believe I`m sure, but there are reports of regular Friday evening parties in Downing Street. The woman who resigned yesterday was hardly an immature kid since she is her 40s I think. Some reports talk of 30 or 40 persons involved at these parties. Hardly a secret one-off event.
The police must have been aware of this since they are responsible for security but Cressida Dick`s capacity for upholding the law is well known.
Making laws they have no intention of adhering to is part and parcel of government. The only bar in Britain where you can legally smoke a fag is in the House of Commons.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 20:37

"The restrictions applied to ALL, so what`s being suggested here is incorrect. The reality is that certain people in Government chose to disregard the rules. They weren`t alone by any means. Lots of people decided they didn`t need to isolate or stay within 5 miles of home or whatever."

jake yes the restrictions applied to ALL but ALL did not make the rules and restrictions .. The government made them .. and the government broke their own rules as well as laughing at ALL .. Can you define certain people in government as I believe you may be privy and help the investigation

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 21:16

Yes, but what sammer is suggesting is that Rasta called it that the rules don`t apply to the wealthy/powerful. That`s incorrect. The rules apply to everyone no matter their standing in society. Obviously it`s worse to break rules you created, but that`s not what`s being said.

I`ll not comment on my whereabouts in December last year. Any suggestion that I was at an all night "meeting" at Downing Street will be strongly denied 😂
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 9 Dec 21:50

Aye jake you are correct .. Its the interpretation the wealthy /powerful don`t think the rules apply to them its for us plebs .. your whereabouts are still under investigation :-))

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 10 Dec 10:53

John Crace who writes the politics sketch in the Guardian has a happy knack of summing up Johnson in a concise and witty way. Today`s example is -

`Lying is what Boris does for a living. Being prime minister is his freelance second job.`

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 11:25

You would think after all the lies that have been told recently by the PM and U.K. gov ministers, all the lies they have told for years, all the lies that were told during the Brexit campaign and all the lies that they told to the people of Scotland during the referendum campaign, that there would be very very few proud Scots still in favour of leaving the future of our country and the future of our kids and grand kids in the hands of others.

Yet there are still many.

Let them decide our future…….or let the Scottish people decide our future.

No brainier really…..

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 11:54

I think it`s fair to say that a majority of Scots saw through Boris Johnson a long time ago. Independence is a bigger issue than just him though.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 12:14

He`s lied his whole life .. sacked from two jobs for lying .. and he should be sacked now for lying .. I see the flat decoration has reared it head again

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 13:00

Problem is that Scottish politicians aren`t as squeaky clean as people would like to think. The difference is the Scottish ones tend to resign.

An independent Scotland could well vote for the equivalent of Tories. The Tories were popular in Scotland in the past.
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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 13:06

Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 11 Dec 11:54

I think it`s fair to say that a majority of Scots saw through Boris Johnson a long time ago. Independence is a bigger issue than just him though


Of course it is bigger than him. It not BJ that’s the problem per say, its the whole system that he is just a part of. If he goes, he just gets replaced by another liar. His replacement might not be so brazen but it will just be more of the same. Ultimately we will still be leaving the decision making to WM, rather than the people of Scotland.

The stronger Parliament, more powers, as close to federalism as possible, all the statements made at the time to con Scots into voting NO will just be empty words and broken promise…lies basically.

Our parliament is currently being stripped of powers. I can’t remember being asked to give my consent……..democracy U.K. style.

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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 13:17

I suppose if an independent Scotland did vote for a party, eg tories, then we would get that government (and it would be our choice)

However the difference is that in scenario, if we then decided to change our minds at the next election, they would be voted out!

As it stands, we basically get what is voted for elsewhere
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 13:35

Nationalism is not the same as independence as Nicola Sturgeon will understand better than anyone. At present there will be plenty of ‘natural’ Labour, Tory and Liberal voters quite happy to put an X next to the SNP in a polling booth.

The real test comes when a referendum forces voters to choose between nationalism and independence. The case against Westminster is not difficult to make while Johnson and his chums are partying instead of governing, but to win an independence vote means to convincingly present a positive case.

And winning a vote, as Brexit has made clear, is only the beginning: not the end.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 14:14

Boris in power but ERG pulling his strings, Liz Truss being punted as his replacement, god help us!🤔😷💩💩💩
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 17:54

More Lies .. this from Aunty :-

Boris Johnson`s press chief offered to quit after it emerged he had given a speech at a Downing Street party held when Covid restrictions were in place, two separate sources have told the BBC.

The sources said the PM had refused to accept Jack Doyle`s resignation.
Downing Street insists Mr Doyle did not offer to quit, and the PM has since declared his "full confidence" in him.

The government has launched an inquiry into the party, attended by up to 30 people on 18 December last year.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer called the prime minister "unfit for office" and said it was important to "get to the bottom" of what had happened, including whether Covid rules had been broken.

A total of 58,194 new UK coronavirus cases were reported on Friday - the highest number since January and the sixth largest daily amount since the pandemic started.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 17:58

It wasn`t a party though. It was just people in an office enjoying a few drinks and light snacks with some music playing...which I why, when the police come round my house to investigate an illegal rave in my back garden, I`ll advise them it isn`t an illegal rave but a gathering of people who know each other consuming some drinks and listening to music outdoors.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 20:13

If you did have a party a year ago Jake89 and I called the police and said "a year ago Jake89 had a party" do you think the police would bother to investigate?

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 11 Dec 20:52

Absolutely not, but I`m not involved in leading this country, despite what some might think 😂
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 12 Dec 12:41

Arise Sir Jake of Duloch :-))

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 14 Dec 16:23

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jake89, Thu 9 Dec 21:16

Yes, but what sammer is suggesting is that Rasta called it that the rules don`t apply to the wealthy/powerful. That`s incorrect. The rules apply to everyone no matter their standing in society. Obviously it`s worse to break rules you created, but that`s not what`s being said.

I`ll not comment on my whereabouts in December last year. Any suggestion that I was at an all night "meeting" at Downing Street will be strongly denied 😂


So...in short....the rules don`t apply to them then...because they sure ain`t following them.
We get fined, they get a cushy job and a knighthood.
It would crush me if I found myself making excuses for them, it obviously sits well with you?

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 14 Dec 19:55

Said no such thing, Rasta. I`m highlighting that the rules do apply to them whether they think so or not. Plenty of people without knighthoods or money who have broken the rules many times. They key difference is that John the Joiner didn`t make the bloody rules he`s broken. That is why we should be angry.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 15 Dec 16:49

News of some new pictures and revelations to land tomorrow, just in time for the bi election, though won`t make much difference to the way some of the plonkers will vote!🤔😷💩💩💩🎩🎩🎩
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 15 Dec 19:21

If there was a party guidelines were followed .. aye right



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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 16 Dec 17:34

Gets better every day!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/16/boris-johnson-joined-no-10-party-during-may-2020-lockdown-say-sources
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Mon 20 Dec 19:57



Rules are for peasants.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 20 Dec 20:03

Hancock allegedly top right with his floozy sitting on the grass!
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 20 Dec 20:31

This was a socially distanced meeting...where partners were invited. They chose to sit outside to allow air flow and the wine and cheese was provided as the meeting was about encouraging consumption of British produce.

Any suggestion that this was some form of social gathering is preposterous. Look at their posture. Those are people hard at it rather than layabouts supping on wine at the taxpayers expense. We should be thanking them for breaking down barriers and working so hard for us, and for such a pitiful wage of only 2.5x the national average.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 21 Dec 08:32

LOL Jake .. I have been thinking along those same lines myself
Hancock came out with another belter according to the Metro :-

"Boris and his staff were not breaking lockdown rules as they were in suits"

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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 Dec 14:24

How stupid do they think we are? Do they really think we haven`t heard of Zoom?

It would be insulting if it wasn`t so pathetic.


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 22 Dec 16:41

From the Guardian 1 hour ago :-

No prime minister has ever avoided questions quite like Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson’s one minute and 40 second video announcing there would be no further Covid restrictions in England before Christmas was more revealing than he realised. He has travelled far from the daily Downing Street Covid press conferences at the start of the pandemic, which genuinely engaged the public and disseminated vital (if sometimes mixed) messages.

At a critical moment, Johnson has made two public statements on Covid this week – Monday’s pool clip (shared among broadcasters, who take turns to send one journalist to ask a few questions) and last night’s in-house video with no reporters present. Pointedly, the BBC declined to run any clips from it on its news bulletins, as Number 10 hoped, so it was hardly a communications triumph.

The BBC rightly concluded that if this line were crossed, Downing Street wouldn’t even allow pool clips in future; Johnson could read from a script, safe in the knowledge he would not be quizzed about it. We would have government messaging by Twitter video. The Chinese Communist Party would be proud of it.

It tells us how much trouble Johnson is in when he wants to avoid even a few questions. Indeed, his last two pool clips have hardly gone well. Quizzed by Sky News’s Sam Coates on Friday, he appeared to blame the Tories’ crushing defeat in the North Shropshire by-election on the media’s “constant litany of stuff about politics and politicians” – meaning the totally irrelevant question of whether those who made the Covid rules a year ago were breaking them at Downing Street parties.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 22 Dec 17:46

Give them enough rope and they`ll hang themselves!🤔🤞🙏
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 29 Dec 16:04

Media digging to find out where he has been for the last 10 days, the sheepish answer to an ITN question this morning is not placating the journos!🤔😷🐷🐷🐷
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 29 Dec 19:07

Swinney on the radio asking Scottish people not to visit England for Hogmanay. Johnson asked to comment and he didn`t say anything. He just blethered nonsense about getting a booster.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 4 Jan 15:58

Standby for party political broadcast at tea time!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 08:24

From Aunty :-

As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.

Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife were among about 30 people who attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.

But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.

The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 08:40

No, no, no, it was bring your own BOTTLE. It didn`t mean alcohol in the bottle. They actually brought ethically sourced bamboo to-go cups of Fair Trade coffee from an independent retailer to show solidarity for small businesses who were suffering.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 09:14

Laura Kunesberg getting it tight on Twitter as it appears she has sat on this for the past 18 months!

Also implications with the Met who would have to screen the arriving guests!

BBC impartiality anyone?
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 09:43

There must have been a lot of people implicated in this who could have spilled the beans long before now. When Allegra Stratton was making her tearful resignation speech following the revelation of that media conference rehearsal I remember thinking that, if she really regretted her actions and the effect on the general population, she could have come clean about it ages before it was exposed.

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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 20:24

How the hell is this serial liar still in post?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 20:59

No where to be seen to answer questions today .. No other engagements .. Boris the Brave who suffered from covid .. as we were reminded by his junior whipping boy .. Deary me

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 11 Jan 22:45

Michael Ellis, the minister delegated to answer the Urgent Question tabled by Labour in the Commons today, should be put in to open the batting for England against Australia in the final Ashes Test. He would stonewall every ball.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 13:17

PMQ`s are a hoot today, his position is untenable!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 14:23

From Aunty :-


Boris Johnson`s apology in the Commons earlier was "carefully worded and obviously lawyered", an expert in the government`s Covid rules concludes.

Human rights lawyer Adam Wagner says the PM`s defence was "a personal one only", with its framing that he believed the event was in the rules, and argument that it could technically be said to have fallen within the guidance.

But it "doesn`t make any sense at all given what the government were telling everyone else to do at the time", he says.

In an extensive Twitter thread, the Covid regulations expert says the apology appeared to directed at people who now believe the PM broke the rules - rather than an admission he did breach them.

Still laughing at us :-((

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 14:28

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LochgellyAlbert, Wed 12 Jan 13:17

PMQ`s are a hoot today, his position is untenable!


D`you think so, LA? There`s no way he`ll resign and the only way he`ll get punted by his party is if they start to fear he`ll cost them the next GE. They were quick to axe Thatcher even though she`d won 4 on the spin.

Eta. Thatcher only won 3. John Major won the 4th thanks to Kinnock's hubris and the Sun newspaper.



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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 17:00

It has to be GG :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59965074

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 17:42

DROSS asking for his resignation , Blackford demanded it as well!

"Anything linked to the SNP I`ll take with a pinch of salt" was BJ`s reply, another couple of percent for independence! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 17:48

A lot`s now riding on the outcome of Sue Gray`s investigation but what sanctions does she have if she concludes there were breaches of the regulations? Is it one of these situations where it is at the discretion of the PM whether he accepts her recommendations?

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 18:27

correct wee eck .. Hence his laugh in the publics face yet again



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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 12 Jan 23:48

The biggest "sorry, not sorry"/"I`m sorry you feel that way" I`ve seen in a while.

The only funny thing is JRM describing Douglas Ross as irrelevant.
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 13 Jan 09:35

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jake89, Wed 12 Jan 23:48

The only funny thing is JRM describing Douglas Ross as irrelevant.


Did he??? That speaks volumes!


From the independent newspaper - JRM said,

But Mr Rees-Mogg told BBC’s Newsnight: “Douglas Ross has always been quite a lightweight figure.”

He said the Secretary of State for Scotland, Alister Jack, who is supportive of the prime minister, was “much more substantial and important”.

The Commons leader made the remark after brushing aside presenter Kirsty Wark’s statement that Newsnight had been told all 31 Scottish Conservative MSPs believe Boris Johnson should quit.

Earlier, Mr Rees-Mogg told LBC he did not think the Scottish Conservative leader was “a big figure”.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 13 Jan 16:22

Just watched the Boris non apology again .. and He is lying yet again as to what he thought they were gathered for .. He has to go .. Rishi`s wife out looking at wallpaper allegedly

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 13 Jan 21:56

Tomorrow`s headlines!🤔😷👋👋👋

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/two-parties-held-downing-street-queen-country-mourned-death/
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 08:35

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Thu 13 Jan 21:56

Tomorrow`s headlines!🤔😷👋👋👋

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/two-parties-held-downing-street-queen-country-mourned-death/


The way all these leaks are pouring out suggests the Tories have had enough of BJ.



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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 10:25

Here is John Crace`s take on Jacob Rees-Mogg in his political sketch in today`s Guardian:-

`In his own mind, the leader of the house is a model of good manners and easy charm: in reality he is a 12-year-old entitled brat in an oversized suit whose default setting is to be patronising and offensive. The very model of passive aggression.`

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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 10:55

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wee eck, Fri 14 Jan 10:25

Here is John Crace`s take on Jacob Rees-Mogg in his political sketch in today`s Guardian:-

`In his own mind, the leader of the house is a model of good manners and easy charm: in reality he is a 12-year-old entitled brat in an oversized suit whose default setting is to be patronising and offensive. The very model of passive aggression.`


Grace has him well sussed.



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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 13:36

The Royal Family`s PR team will be doing anything they can to keep this story alive too. They REALLY want us to be looking the other way whilst feeling sympathy for the Queen.


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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 13:58

I have absolutely no time for the Conservative Party and resent their notion that they are the natural party of government. However, I didn`t think that, purely for short-term benefits to them, they would elect as their leader someone who was clearly not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister, The same thing is happening in the US with the Republican Party in thrall to Trump. I find it quite scary.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 17:13

No workie will try again :)

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 17:16





Sums it all up

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 09:29

Wotsit makes a good point about us looking the other way while all this is going on. I mean after all this time only now are we getting to find out about these Downing Street knees ups during lockdown. Who is now dripping these stories into the public realm and why now?
What should be the biggest news item in the world today and of far more importance and alarm than Johnson flouting his own laws or Prince Andrew being, at best, a sleazebag?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 09:58

Dominic Cummings is behind some of the `party` stories isn`t he? I can`t imagine he`s a fan of the royals.

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 10:04

Where did Cummings work again before he worked for Johnson?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 10:06

I`ve no idea but I suspect you do.

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 10:23

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/03/dominic-cummings-labour-questions-russia-links

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 10:44

And Javid`s brother in top management at the Met!

Is there no organisation they haven`t infiltrated?🤔🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 12:04

Good points by TOWK above imo, and with them in mind it`s telling that one of the first senior Tories to break ranks is the Chairman of the Defence select committee, who is demanding that Johnson "lead or step aside."


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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 12:13

Just heard on the news that Boris the Brave has started a campaign to save his job with many MP`S rallying round .. He`s calling it :-

Operation Save Big Dog .. true

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 13:19

Oh I wish!😷🤞🙏

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1483418498944671746?t=WMEkHWKXPcT4l-kUO_Qemg&s=19
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 15:41

L.A. that is nothing short of fekin brilliant .. a genius at work !!

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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 17:16

The Tories could have combined their operation to protect Johnson with another operation to protect Sue Gray`s investigation into what really happened.

They could call it "Operation Save The Fact Hunt".

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 19 Jan 16:51

Love it aaaaaaaaaargh especially as i`m a bit dyslexic

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 08:55

Daughter had a serious case of COVID. Conveniently now revealed as she`s on the mend. At no point does his daughter appear to have been admitted to hospital. Call me a cynic but it seems like a sympathy ploy.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 09:57

Tory MP Christian Wakeford has defected to the Labour Party and called on Boris Johnson to quit as prime minister.

Mr Wakeford took the Bury South seat from Labour at the 2019 general election by just 402 votes.

But he will now sit as a Labour MP, with his new party leader, Sir Keir Starmer, offering him a "warm welcome".


Has this been Tory stage managed to rally the troops ? .. It would appear thats what it has done

Can someone explain to me how an elected Tory mp can walk across to become a Labour mp and still keep his job ?

Surely he cannot still represent Bury South ?

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 10:18

I`ve never understood that either, Bpp. How can it be democratic to fight an election under one party`s banner and win, then switch to another party? Didn`t the same thing happen with SNP MPs who switched to Alba?

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:28

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wee eck, Thu 20 Jan 10:18

I`ve never understood that either, Bpp. How can it be democratic to fight an election under one party`s banner and win, then switch to another party? Didn`t the same thing happen with SNP MPs who switched to Alba?


Yeah, it`s happened in our Constituency with Neil Hanvey, elected on SNP vote, then suspended by the party, moves to Alba. Now sitting in a seat that is being tipped as a Labour gain next GE, Laird the previous encumbant wasn`t very good!
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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:48

Agreed, if you change ideology from the one you were voted on (even if you couldn’t really get a cigarette paper between the two in question) then you no longer have the mandate of the electorate as they voted for the party

It’s why our PM can change without a a new election as people vote for a party and not the individual per se
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 13:22

The reason they don`t have to resign is because the electorate are voting for the individual and not the party.
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 14:02

That seems illogical when the party gaining the most seats is allowed to form the government.

Incidentally, the Guardian is reporting this :-

`Sue Gray, the senior civil servant investigating partygate, has found the email from a very senior civil servant to Martin Reynolds, Boris Johnson’s principal private secretary, saying the party on 20 May 2020 should be cancelled because it broke the rules, ITV’s Robert Peston reports. The existence of this email was revealed by Dominic Cummings in a blog on Monday.

As Peston says, this would amount to written proof undermining Johnson’s claim that he was not told the party would be against the rules.`

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 14:39

Reynolds will say he forgot to tell Boris the Brave .. then resign with a nice pay off and pension :-((

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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 15:19

Even if Boris was copied in on the email it`s a bit much to assume he has read and processed it.

It`s is pretty obvious from the photos that people should not have been sitting outside.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 19:47

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Buspasspar, Thu 20 Jan 14:39

Reynolds will say he forgot to tell Boris the Brave .. then resign with a nice pay off and pension :-((


And a knighthood guaranteeing him £350 a day for life, subsidised breakfasts and lunch and takes over the management of the HoL wine cellars
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 03:23

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Thu 20 Jan 11:28

Quote:

wee eck, Thu 20 Jan 10:18

I`ve never understood that either, Bpp. How can it be democratic to fight an election under one party`s banner and win, then switch to another party? Didn`t the same thing happen with SNP MPs who switched to Alba?


Yeah, it`s happened in our Constituency with Neil Hanvey, elected on SNP vote, then suspended by the party, moves to Alba. Now sitting in a seat that is being tipped as a Labour gain next GE, Laird the previous encumbant wasn`t very good!


You`ve got your order of events about Neale Hanvey wrong. Was suspended from party for "antisemitism" (it definitely wasn`t), stood in General election as an independent and won, readmitted to party after an apology so then became SNP MP, joined Alba as he felt SNP were not progressing indy fast enough, has sadly now become a transphobic bigot.

Anyway, point I was making is he wasn`t elected as an SNP MP.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 08:06

I can explain why it`s democratic - you`re supposed to vote for who best represents you, not what colour their badge is.

The vote should be for Neale Hanvey, not SNP or Alba. Of course, we know that doesn`t happen which is why you could have stuck a Labour badge on a M&S mannequin and it would get elected in 90s Dunfermline!

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 09:35

If the electorate are voting for the candidate rather than the party that`s promoting him what would be the harm in having another election if he switches sides during his term just to make sure a majority of the voters are happy about it?

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 11:10

https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/1661/election/397
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 12:19

Yet another way in which First Past the Post is undemocratic?


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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 13:04

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Fri 21 Jan 11:10

https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/1661/election/397


https://youtu.be/if-lxKTOrtQ
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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Fri 21 Jan 20:51

Favourite to win this seat at the next election looking at the above links must be Leibour if the SNP and Alba both contest it .

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 22 Jan 08:23

From the Beeb :-

A Conservative backbencher who accused Downing Street of trying to "blackmail" MPs seeking to oust Boris Johnson is to meet police to discuss his allegations.

William Wragg said he will be speaking to a Met Police detective in the House of Commons early next week, after requesting a meeting with the force.

The MP, who wants the prime minister to quit, said he wanted to leave any probe to "experts" rather than No 10.





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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 22 Jan 10:46

Javid`s brother doing the investigation?🤔😷💩💩💩
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 22 Jan 17:18

Maybe a total waste of time ? :-

Will Sue Gray be able to take disciplinary action?

According to the inquiry`s terms of reference: "If required, the investigations will establish whether individual disciplinary action is warranted".

Any specific HR action against individual members of staff - either civil servants or political advisers - would be confidential.

If there is evidence a minister has breached the Ministerial Code - such as potentially misleading parliament - it could be investigated by the prime minister`s standards adviser Lord Geidt.

Mr Johnson would need to give permission before any new inquiry was launched and he ultimately decides if any minister - including himself - has broken the code.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 16:11

More discontent in the Tory party according to the Guardian :-

`Lord Agnew of Oulton has resigned his post as a minister based jointly in the Treasury and in the Cabinet Office in a surprise statement from the despatch box in the House or Lords. He said he was quitting because of his disapproval of the government’s response to the problem of fraudulent Covid business claims. He told peers:

`Given that I am the minister for counter fraud, it would be somewhat dishonest to stay on in that role if I am incapable of doing it properly. It is for this reason that I have sadly decided to tender my resignation as a minister across the Treasury and Cabinet Office with immediate effect.`

Last week the government admitted that it expect to write off more than £4bn in Covid payments that were claimed fraudulently.`


Of course in Scotland the Tories were criticising the SNP for slow payment of Covid-related business assistance and Nicola Sturgeon explained that one of the reason for delays was to allow sufficient time for security checks on applicants.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 19:14

BJ`s birthday celebrations emerging, wonder if he thought that this was a work event?🤔🍾🎂🍾🍷🍸🍺💩💩💩🎩
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 20:13

Downing Street has admitted that staff gathered inside No 10 to celebrate Boris Johnson`s birthday when the first Covid lockdown was still in place.

ITV News reports up to 30 people attended the June 2020 event, sang Happy Birthday and were served cake.

No 10 said staff had "gathered briefly" to "wish the prime minister a happy birthday", adding that he had been there "for less than 10 minutes".

Rules at the time banned most indoor gatherings of more than two people.
ITV News said the birthday event had taken place in the Cabinet Room just after 2pm on 19 June 2020, adding that it had been a surprise for Mr Johnson after he returned from an official trip to a school in Hertfordshire.

It also reported that family and friends had been hosted in the prime minister`s residence that evening.

Oh Jings the toast has just been burned :-))

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 20:32

As Labour MP Angela Eagle suggested, Sue Gray might be quicker investigating the days when parties weren`t held at No 10.

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Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 20:50

For me, Agnew resigning is the big story. It`s interesting that any time a story like this appears, such as government contracts going to friends companies with out proper tender, fraudulent covid payments totalling billions being written off without investigation, then there is always another leak of a Lockdown party. Fair enough, the party`s are serious, but in my view they are being leaked specifically to fill the front pages and hide the real story - the theft of billions of pounds of taxpayers money by this government
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Mon 24 Jan 21:03

So he stood up in Parliament and said he was shocked there were parties in Downing Street after attending his own birthday party.

The Queen should just punt him. This is absolutely mental he is getting away with this.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 10:16

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ipswichpar, Mon 24 Jan 21:03

So he stood up in Parliament and said he was shocked there were parties in Downing Street after attending his own birthday party.

The Queen should just punt him. This is absolutely mental he is getting away with this.


Can the Queen really punt him? I think she`s only a figurehead - No political power.



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Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 11:22

If he has broken the ministerial code by lying to parliament (which I think he has) and he refuses to resign (when it is resigning matter) then I think she can punt him according to this analysis. (Appreciate it is a bit of wishful thinking :) )

https://www.ft.com/content/2d8aee46-e42f-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 11:51

Now that the alleged parties at 10 Downing Street are being investigated by the Metropolitan Police any discussion regarding them should be closed in order to allow a proper investigation to take place. It’s unfortunate that Sue Gray’s report will not appear this week but due process must be followed. The law is the law after all. We’re lucky to have someone with a track record like Cressida Dick to pursue the investigation. It may take months of course, possibly years, but until then the PM must be assumed innocent and keep doing the job he’s best at: running the country.

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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 12:27

Not like our old friend Cresida to get involved in political shenanigans and I am in no doubt that this was in no way negotiated to delay the release of a damming report. No doubt whatsoever.


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Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 12:40

She certainly has way too much influence, eg getting to see laws before commons to have them tweaked etc

I’m sure if she asked him to step down he would, but it would be done in a back room with a nice incentive no doubt
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 13:49

I’ve assumed for some time that Cressida Dick’s incompetence is what keeps her in post.

Johnson has no intention of stepping down and I see some Tories are insisting he stay in light of events in Ukraine. He will be touted by the UK media as maybe not a great domestic PM, but the one man in the world that Vlad Putin fears. Churchill cigars and V signs to follow when the threatened carnage in Ukraine fails to unfold.

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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 14:31

Cressida`s involvement is just a big misunderstanding.
Someone in Whitehall was overheard saying "For Christ`s sake can`t we find someone to deal with this. Dick?"
So they asked her to help.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 16:06

Made me smile aaaaaaaaargh

This from the Beeb just now :-

We`ve got a breaking news line now from the BBC`s Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg.

We`ve been reporting that parts of senior civil servant Sue Gray`s report into Downing Street parties will be delayed while the Metropolitan Police Service investigates.

But Laura says this may now have changed. She says the Met seems to have indicated they have no objection to the full report being published before the end of the investigation.

This means the report may be published sooner rather than later.

However, she adds that the situation remains very unclear and there`s a real sense at Westminster that nobody knows what the decision will be.

We`ll bring you more details as we get them.

I smell schoite

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 19:29

According to an observer (videod) BJ has raced back to the House of commons an hour after leaving, very strange!🤔😷😎
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Tue 25 Jan 20:39

I think Sue Gray`s report has been delivered L.A.

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 07:38

They`re saying the report could be coming out today which would indicate it`s possibly positive for Blojo , if its bad news it`s more likely to be later in the week when most MPs have headed home.

I`d rather he stayed but because of the way Brexit was dumped on us he`s got to be punished for that.

Interesting days ahead.
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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 08:15

He`s screwed either way. A report suggesting anything other than him being dodgy will be met with massive scepticism from the public.

In terms of Scotland it`s probably good to keep him in there cocking things up.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 08:30

Criminal probe now after Gray handed in evidence of flagrant breaches of law and allegedly more pics of Boris the Brave with bottles of wine

Sunak and Truss still have not offered any support .. I wonder why :-)

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Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 09:32

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Buspasspar, Wed 26 Jan 08:30

Criminal probe now after Gray handed in evidence of flagrant breaches of law and allegedly more pics of Boris the Brave with bottles of wine

Sunak and Truss still have not offered any support .. I wonder why :-)




No sign of wee Ricki in Parliament yesterday supporting Blojo
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 16:23

Is the Afghanistan animal rescue going to bring him down?

Plenty evidence that he cannot deny including a media interview and a question in Westminster!🤔😷👋👋👋
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Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 16:51

Wouldn`t it be better for Starmer and Blackford to insist that Johnson stay?

I mean, it`s a bigger burn to say that they think he`s helping them to achieve their aim of bringing down the Tory government?

It`s probably even true - they`d not have as easy a job with anyone else at the minute.

Also, I noticed in PMQs that Johnson used the good old "I can`t be racist, look, I have a black friend" line. That`s a classic that one.


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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 16:53

Latest one seems to be a remark suggesting it`s Blackford who`s eaten all the cake. I doubt Blackford was offended but this was said in parliament rather than down the pub. What kind of leadership is that? I`d be in front of HR if I made a comment like that to a colleague.
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 17:52

Boris Johnson has mocked Ian Blackford’s weight in cutting personal exchanges at Prime Minister’s Questions.

The Prime Minister made the cruel jibe as the SNP Westminster leader raised the claims that Johnson had enjoyed a birthday party and cake in Downing Street during one of the partygate events being investigated by Sue Gray.

At Prime Minister’s Questions Blackford said the Downing Street scandals were diverting from real issue facing the public.

He said: “It’s sucking attention from the real issues facing the public, The impending national insurance tax hike hangs like a guillotine while they eat cake.”

“This is nothing short of a crisis and the only the only route to restore public trust is for the Prime Minister to go.”

But Johnson hit back: “I don’t know who has been eating more cake?”

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 18:14

Blackford was asked about Johnson`s response on Radio Scotland but said he didn`t want to discuss it as it was just another deflection tactic by the PM. However, when asked about Johnson`s claim that they get on well together outside the chamber (a comment that Johnson makes just about every week), Blackford said it wasn`t true. He said Johnson had stopped the tradition of briefing leaders of the major opposition parties on key events and that he`d only attended one meeting in Downing St since Johnson had been elected.

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 26 Jan 19:41

Wheeeeeee its Party time ... out the way Blackford ya fat Jock Basta*d



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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 27 Jan 14:31

I smell schoite :-


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60157517

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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 27 Jan 19:40

😷💩💩💩🎩🎩🎩
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 Re: Boris the Brave
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 28 Jan 13:32

From the Beeb 15 minutes ago .. the smell of schoite is getting stronger :-

There is confusion over when Sue Gray`s report into No 10 lockdown parties will be published after a statement from the police on their investigation.

The Met said on Friday it had asked for "minimal reference" in the report to events they are investigating to avoid prejudicing its inquiries.

Many in the Cabinet Office, where Ms Gray is based, were taken by surprise by the Met`s statement, sources say.

The report was due to be sent to Downing Street this week.


There`s More :-

So we don`t yet know when we`ll see the Gray report after the police asked for some details to be kept out of it.

But some legal figures are questioning why publishing the report would prejudice a police probe.

Adam Wagner, a human rights barrister who`s an expert on Covid rules, asks: "How would a factual civil service report about events the police is investigating `prejudice` their investigation?"

He suggests this whole situation could have been avoided "if police had done the sensible thing" and begun investigating in December.

Nazir Afzal, a former chief Crown prosecutor, makes a similar point on Twitter, saying: "This is absolute nonsense from the Met Police.

"A purely factual report by Sue Gray cannot possibly prejudice a police investigation."







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