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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 14:00
I must say I`m surprised that kind of stuff can be published while the police investigation into the SNP`s finances is ongoing. There`s an awful lot of supposition and allegation in there without hard facts to back it up.
The latest `evidence` the media have latched on to is a video of Nicola Sturgeon in March 2021 dismissing concerns about the party`s finances. The inference seems to be that this adds to the suspicion that things weren`t as they should be. However, I`ve seen no mention in the media that the accounts to 31 December 2021 were issued in June 2022 and showed the party had net assets of £610k. The assets included motor vehicles at a written down value of £80k. Could this be the infamous motor home removed by police from Peter Murrell`s mother`s home in Dunfermline? There is also disclosure of `loans from executive management` of £107,620 of which £47,620 had been repaid, although there is no specific disclosure that this was from Peter Murrell as has subsequently become clear.
The point is that the auditors must have been aware of these transactions and saw no reason to qualify their report regarding them. The auditors also agreed with the National Treasurer`s assessment that the Party was in a position to continue as a going concern for a period ending at least 12 months from the date the accounts were approved i.e. until 30 June 2023. (to be continued)
Post Edited (Mon 17 Apr 14:12)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 14:20
cont.
Why haven`t the auditors been asked why they resigned or whether they had any inkling of the misappropriation of funds? Maybe they have been asked but refused to answer but why not say so?
Isn`t it odd that, despite all this `evidence` being drip-fed by the media the police are apparently still not in a position to press charges after looking into this for two years?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Apr 15:06
I don`t know if I`m missing something but this doesn`t feel like a very big deal in comparison to other scandals. I know it *should* be a big deal but this feels quite tame.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 16:21
The Scottish Tories and Scottish Labour are demanding that Nicola Sturgeon be suspended as an MSP on the strength of that video. Based on what the SNP`s published accounts showed for 2020 and 2021 it would appear her assessment of the state of their finances at that time was accurate. Why haven`t the media picked up on that?
Post Edited (Mon 17 Apr 16:24)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 17 Apr 16:38
I think it`s because only twelve months later her husband had to give, from his and only his funds mind absolutely nothing to do with his wife, a loan of over 100k to the party.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:10
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 14:20
cont.
Why haven`t the auditors been asked why they resigned or whether they had any inkling of the misappropriation of funds? Maybe they have been asked but refused to answer but why not say so?
Isn`t it odd that, despite all this `evidence` being drip-fed by the media the police are apparently still not in a position to press charges after looking into this for two years?
Strange that they`re struggling to find replacement auditors . That said previous auditors have to forward a report on the clients behaviour.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:19
A loan doesn`t change the net asset position but it would improve the liquidity if his terms for repayment were better than, say, a bank`s. The party would have fought the Holyrood elections in 2021:would they not so it`s not surprising that liquidity might be low by 31/12.
It`s not surprising to me that accountants might be reluctant to take on the audit of an organisation`s accounts whilst a police investigation into its financial affairs is going on.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:22
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 16:21
The Scottish Tories and Scottish Labour are demanding that Nicola Sturgeon be suspended as an MSP on the strength of that video. Based on what the SNP`s published accounts showed for 2020 and 2021 it would appear her assessment of the state of their finances at that time was accurate. Why haven`t the media picked up on that?
The opposition parties will make capital out of the situation the nuSNP find theirselfs in, let`s face it losing 50,000+ members indicates something may be wrong.
If she has any integrity and is innocent of any wrongdoing she should maybe for the benefit of the party do what Alex Salmond done.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:27
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 14:20
cont.
Why haven`t the auditors been asked why they resigned or whether they had any inkling of the misappropriation of funds? Maybe they have been asked but refused to answer but why not say so?
Isn`t it odd that, despite all this `evidence` being drip-fed by the media the police are apparently still not in a position to press charges after looking into this for two years?
Re the last paragraph, the police did indeed interview complainants over the last 2 years but weren`t given authority to speak to the suspects until early February this year, hence why allegedly all the resignations .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:30
As usual, Tenruh, I haven`t a clue what you`re on about.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:38
Did whoever gave them authority to speak to the suspects also give them authority to turn the Murrells` back garden into a crime scene?
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 17 Apr 17:47
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 17:38
Did whoever gave them authority to speak to the suspects also give them authority to turn the Murrells` back garden into a crime scene?
When was it turned into a crime scene ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Apr 18:41
Is it normal to erect a tent in the garden when searching a house? These pictures went all around the world.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 17 Apr 21:02
Correct wee eck .. last time I saw that was Fred and Rose West`s house
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 18 Apr 06:52
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 18:41
Is it normal to erect a tent in the garden when searching a house? These pictures went all around the world.
Was there a tent in the garden ?
There was a tent on the driveway which the police reversed a vehicle into each of the mornings which was speculated to allow the movement of individuals and evidence.
Post Edited (Tue 18 Apr 06:53)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 18 Apr 07:54
Bickering about a tent when Indy is remonter le ruisseau sans pagie as the Froggies would put it...meanwhile us Yoons can can only chortle merrily away!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 18 Apr 08:56
Quote:
Parboiled, Tue 18 Apr 07:54
meanwhile us Yoons can can only chortle merrily away!
Aye, and look at the midden down South!🤔😲😡💰💰💰💩
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Topic Originator: Thaipar
Date: Tue 18 Apr 09:07
SNP treasurer Colin Beattie now been arrested
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 18 Apr 09:15
Polis Alba erecting marquee in Holyrood park…
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Apr 10:15
Nice timing with Yousaf due to make a big policy speech today. It`s like a conspiracy...
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 18 Apr 10:38
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Apr 18:41
Is it normal to erect a tent in the garden when searching a house? These pictures went all around the world.
Wee update
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 18 Apr 11:53
Trying to deflect attention away from Sunak Tenruh ??
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Tue 18 Apr 11:59
Quote:
Parboiled, Tue 18 Apr 07:54
Bickering about a tent when Indy is remonter le ruisseau sans pagie as the Froggies would put it...meanwhile us Yoons can can only chortle merrily away!
Referring to French people as Froggies now.
Are there actually any limits to your racism, homophobia and general bigotry?
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 18 Apr 12:04
Has Sunak got a bigger tent?
And Eck, the only conspiracy is in the space between your lugs. Big policy speech indeed! The man is a dud, installed as a puppet, now the cops are arresting the string pullers!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Apr 12:53
Tenruh, I seem to recall you suggesting Police Scotland delayed the full force of their investigation until after NS resigned to suit her agenda. That really doesn`t sit well with the way they have behaved since and now the timing of Colin Beattie`s arrest isn`t exactly ideal for Yousaf. I was just pointing out that events can be twisted however you want to suit a particular conspiracy theory.
Thanks for the pic of the tent in the garden though.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Apr 20:31
Colin Beattie has been released without charge pending further investigation. Sounds familiar.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 18 Apr 21:43
It`s OK, we`ve still got the PM, deputy PM and former PM under investigation!
I`ll get the popcorn🤔 🍿 🍿🍿
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 19 Apr 06:36
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 18 Apr 20:31
Colin Beattie has been released without charge pending further investigation. Sounds familiar.
Looking like it`s a conspiracy...
Any mention of Independence in Humza's speech yesterday?
Post Edited (Wed 19 Apr 06:43)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 19 Apr 07:22
Nope.
It was as stirring as a recipe for porridge. The highlight was him referring to Keir Sarwar..
Edit: oops, Tam Gordon in the Herald says Humza mentioned Indy. Once.
Also worth a mention - DRS postponed till March 2024, Westminster’s fault natch.
Alcohol advertising bill kicked into even longer grass, and something about
“Green” fishing which will annoy the Greens, but probably not enough to break up their coalition pact and give up their ministerial posts and fat salaries …
Post Edited (Wed 19 Apr 08:48)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 19 Apr 18:35
Colin Beattie has resigned as SNP treasurer after his arrest as part of a police investigation into the party`s finances.
He said he would also be stepping back from his role on the public audit committee until the police investigation had concluded.
The 71-year-old was taken into custody and released without charge on Tuesday.
It came hours before First Minister Humza Yousaf set out his government`s priorities for the next three years.
In a statement, Mr Beattie said he had resigned as treasurer with "immediate effect".
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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