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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 10 Jun 20:50
Where does this stop now? It’s happening in all major cities accross Europe.
Why can’t our government protect their own people in this country?
Why should we have to put up with this..imagine an immigrant trying to cut one of our families heads off in the street..but wait a call for peace..if that was my son with one eye and his face sliced to shred with a knife you better arrest me! This government is a shambles and it’s about time they look after the people of Britain.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 10 Jun 21:17
My question would be around the vetting of who is let in. We know people smugglers advise people to toss passports etc. so what happens when they process someone? How do they determine if someone is here legitimately AND that they`re suitable to be given the freedom to roam the streets? In this case the guy flew here with a passport so the agencies knew exactly who he was and gave him a visa. What actual checks were done?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 10 Jun 21:26
Dear Sudan. This bloke has turned up here. Is he a nutter?
*Radio silence*
Ah, just let him in.
There is no way to get a reliable response from a failed state. Home Office advise against all travel, but anybody from there can come in. Some perverse logic.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 10 Jun 21:40
Here is a question..what does the government do with the influx of immigrants coming in with no passport/any ID?
They say send them back but to where? If they have no ID then where do they go?
They will just spend their time here scrounging off us paying our taxes that should go to developing the country we live in.
There has to be a time where we all say “enough is enough” no way can we live like this.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 10 Jun 21:47
I think the offshore processing had some merit in that regard.
It was a very expensive hammer that may not have cracked that nut.
Staying in the EU may have helped.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Wed 10 Jun 22:05
That’s the problem..how do you deal with an illegal immigrant who dumped all their ID coming in a boat and has found his way staying in a hotel in Britain?
Where do we send them back to? The answer is we can’t so we are stuck with them.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 10 Jun 22:11
That`s what the Rwanda deal was proposed to cope with.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 11 Jun 03:27
2015, 11 years ago.
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.
When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you (He points to someone in the crowd). They’re not sending you (points to another). They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
It`s not that Trump was some great prognosticator, he just did not have the same sensibilities of the politicians who knew what he was saying was true but thought actually saying it was electoral suicide.
Turnberry got taken off the Open roster when he said that all those years ago, along with other performative outrage.
You`ll deny it up and down, you have to, it`s Trump after all, but you are all saying the same now.
Post Edited (Thu 11 Jun 03:29)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 11 Jun 10:09
Quote:
ipswichpar, Wed 10 Jun 21:26
Dear Sudan. This bloke has turned up here. Is he a nutter?
*Radio silence*
Ah, just let him in.
There is no way to get a reliable response from a failed state. Home Office advise against all travel, but anybody from there can come in. Some perverse logic.
And this is the issue. If you are undocumented, you shouldn`t be released until thorough checks are done. What this suggests is I could commit a load of murders, travel to France, come back on a boat and be like "My name is Bob Smith. I am from Sudan." and they`d have to take my word for it. Suddenly I have a new identity and no criminal record.
Trumps example was poor. The Mexicans he was referring to were ones working illegally. They hadn`t been processed. They just turn up and take cash in hand jobs where they can. They weren`t legally living in the country under an assumed name.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 12 Jun 11:14
Quite obvious is it not?
Blood sample, DNA test, Facial recognition photograph and Fingerprint them. If they refuse to or cannot provide ID then ban them from the country for life, even for tourists purposes. If it happens to be a recurring theme among certain nationalities, then withdrawal of access to visas needs to be implemented.
Should be fairly easy to legislate in principle and I so think that`s the way it`s going with the rise of Reform. A lot of countries, the US and Australia included, seem to ban people from entering if they have committed a crime. Surely crossing a border illegally should count as a criminal offence?
As I`ve said previously, I never really cared about immigration until I moved to Sweden and saw the damage that certain groups do to the system. Somalis were particularly bad for it over there, as were Moroccans and Tunisians and it seems to be a recurring theme with them elsewhere.
Post Edited (Fri 12 Jun 11:16)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 12 Jun 11:45
"Trumps example was poor. The Mexicans he was referring to were ones working illegally. They hadn`t been processed. They just turn up and take cash in hand jobs where they can. They weren`t legally living in the country under an assumed name."
Indeed - a different scenario.
Mexicans have been entering the USA via the southern border states for over a century - the so called "wetbacks" who could cross the Rio Grande relatively easily at some points.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
Post Edited (Fri 12 Jun 11:46)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 12 Jun 12:00
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Fri 12 Jun 11:14
Quite obvious is it not?
Blood sample, DNA test, Facial recognition photograph and Fingerprint them. If they refuse to or cannot provide ID then ban them from the country for life, even for tourists purposes. If it happens to be a recurring theme among certain nationalities, then withdrawal of access to visas needs to be implemented.
Should be fairly easy to legislate in principle and I so think that`s the way it`s going with the rise of Reform. A lot of countries, the US and Australia included, seem to ban people from entering if they have committed a crime. Surely crossing a border illegally should count as a criminal offence?
As I`ve said previously, I never really cared about immigration until I moved to Sweden and saw the damage that certain groups do to the system. Somalis were particularly bad for it over there, as were Moroccans and Tunisians and it seems to be a recurring theme with them elsewhere.
How do you identify someone from a country that doesn`t share records though? I agree with your point but it`s not as black and white as that, which is why the system is being abused.
That`s them set up roadblocks in Belfast. It`s like going back 30 years.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Fri 12 Jun 12:13
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8memlgdrgo
where is the outrage for the 30 white women killed by white men in Northern Ireland since 2020? It`s selective outrage, yes what was done was f'ing horrific and people should rightly be outraged and angry. But there has been no outrage, or protests for these mothers, daughters, sisters all killed by their own.
Post Edited (Fri 12 Jun 12:14)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 12 Jun 19:13
Quote:
Athletico, Fri 12 Jun 12:13
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8memlgdrgo
where is the outrage for the 30 white women killed by white men in Northern Ireland since 2020? It`s selective outrage, yes what was done was f`ing horrific and people should rightly be outraged and angry. But there has been no outrage, or protests for these mothers, daughters, sisters all killed by their own.
Yep. Criminals come in all shapes colours and sizes but the small minded are easily duped into the fascist agenda
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 12 Jun 19:31
Not all Rangers supporters, but always Rangers supporters when it comes to trashing things.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 12 Jun 20:15
Quote:
jake89, Fri 12 Jun 19:31
Not all Rangers supporters, but always Rangers supporters when it comes to trashing things.
Evidence on our road signs from both sides of the ugly sisters, should bill the clubs for the repairs!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 13 Jun 08:03
17 year old girl stabbed in the neck in Burnley, there really has to be more done about these chancers coming in with no papers.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 08:28
Another weekend of unrest awaits no doubt.
I have no idea how we have any chance of rounding up folk who may now be identified as not having sufficient right to be here.
Wouldn`t it be strange if it comes out that some of these people have been chucked money to intentionally do something unlawful to generate these issues.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 13 Jun 08:29
Surely when an arrest is made in a case like the Burnley one, a description could be given to make it clearer and avoid misinformation?
GB News report (the only one I can find) just mentions a 30 year old arrested. Can be construed in any way possible, apart from a man attacking a female.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 09:33
This was the problem that kicked all this off.
They can do what they want, but if not sharing it simply creates a void that folk fill, then it is best they just share everything and deal with that. Even if that is uncomfortable.
The focus needs to be on this not happening in the first place. And teaching people to react appropriately.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 13 Jun 10:58
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sat 13 Jun 09:33
This was the problem that kicked all this off.
They can do what they want, but if not sharing it simply creates a void that folk fill, then it is best they just share everything and deal with that. Even if that is uncomfortable.
The focus needs to be on this not happening in the first place. And teaching people to react appropriately.
2 days prior to it a school in the area was locked down as a pupil went about attacking folk with a knife. A Sikh teacher stepped in to stop it continuing. Cant find any coverage of it anywhere on the main outlets though 🤷🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 13 Jun 12:14
Quote:
Topic Originator: Dave_1885 like
Date: Sat 13 Jun 10:58
2 days prior to it a school in the area was locked down as a pupil went about attacking folk with a knife. A Sikh teacher stepped in to stop it continuing. Cant find any coverage of it anywhere on the main outlets though 🤷🏻♂️
That was at the co-op academy in Manchester....now, given all that you have learned in this thread, why do you think it has not been "picked up"?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 13 Jun 12:27
I`m sure if someone reviewed the data, knife crime may be higher among minority groups, but then it only takes one to do something to skew the data as there are so few of them.
No knife crime should be tolerated regardless of who committed the crime. Given integration is often pointed out as a problem, why aren`t their education courses for newcomers to make clear the key issues around the treatment of women and girls? To be honest, most men in the UK could benefit from such a course as I`m still astounded how some men act about women.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 13:25
jake, I don`t get why the assumption is that a low population suddenly explains a higher than average figure for a minority group..... all other things being equal, should there not be an equal and opposite number of outliers in the other direction?
I think the better comparison is knife crime in country x vs knife crime in country y.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sat 13 Jun 13:44
All other things being equal migrant populations have similar crime rates to domestic populations
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 13 Jun 14:42
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sat 13 Jun 13:25
jake, I don`t get why the assumption is that a low population suddenly explains a higher than average figure for a minority group..... all other things being equal, should there not be an equal and opposite number of outliers in the other direction?
I think the better comparison is knife crime in country x vs knife crime in country y.
Quite simple really.
The higher the number of candidates, the more accurate the figure is. If there`s 1 Scotsman in Zimbabwe and he is arrested for shoplifting, that means 100% of Scots in Zimbabwe are shoplifters.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 16:08
My point is..... if 1 in 100 Zimbabweans are shoplifters, why don`t we ever hear the arguments about Scottish people never shoplifting because 0 out of 2 of Scots in Zimbabwe shoplift, but always give them the benefit of the doubt when 50% of them get caught?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 16:23
The key, and broad, statement here is "all other things being equal". As I think a lot of those factors removed (e.g. language barriers, access to work etc) are actually big issues in the real world, so those policies are inviting trouble.
I would also argue that most of the longitudinal studies perhaps don`t reflect the actual factors we face just now (such as amount of immigration and lack of opportunities for the population even before the additional competition from those from abroad for housing, services and employment).
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 13 Jun 18:54
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sat 13 Jun 16:08
My point is..... if 1 in 100 Zimbabweans are shoplifters, why don`t we ever hear the arguments about Scottish people never shoplifting because 0 out of 2 of Scots in Zimbabwe shoplift, but always give them the benefit of the doubt when 50% of them get caught?
Because Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
The media in this country likes to stoke the fire of hatred. Gets more clicks on their websites. Makes more stories for them to write.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Jun 21:08
The poor representation and use of data goes in both directions though.
I agree that the media (and others) don`t help, and sometimes intentionally so.
But that should make folk on the other side of the argument who point this out more careful about lasy characterisation and shoving their heads in the sand.
We clearly have a problem and don`t have enough accountability for letting in other nation`s problems without appropriate controls. The politicians tell us enough that their number 1 job is to keep the people of this country safe. I do not think they have done a good enough job on that in this case.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 15 Jun 13:35
17 year old girl in Arbroath raped by 4 or 5 immigrants, mind rock up and tell her parents not to be racists or annoyed.
How many is too many or are we normalising gang rapes and beheadings?
Oh yeah, and the police reaction? Allegedly more interested in keeping it quiet.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 15 Jun 14:15
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 15 Jun 13:35
17 year old girl in Arbroath raped by 4 or 5 immigrants, mind rock up and tell her parents not to be racists or annoyed.
How many is too many or are we normalising gang rapes and beheadings?
Oh yeah, and the police reaction? Allegedly more interested in keeping it quiet.
Who`s normalising things?
It was a local 23 year old white man who appears to be in the frame for the rape in Arbroath btw.
Post Edited (Mon 15 Jun 19:11)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 16 Jun 10:20
Police have confirmed a 23 year old white male has been charged with the rape in Arbroath which happened on 5 June. I wonder where the allegations about an illegal immigrant being involved came from?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 16 Jun 10:27
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 16 Jun 10:20
Police have confirmed a 23 year old white male has been charged with the rape in Arbroath which happened on 5 June. I wonder where the allegations about an illegal immigrant being involved came from?
That was last week, the one being spoken about above reportedly happened at the weekend and the claim about who was involved has reportedly come from a member of the public who intervened.
The key thing about it all is that ethnicity shouldn’t matter, what should is catching the alleged criminals and discovering the full truth on the matters.
Still waiting on Tommy 10 names etc protests though regarding the 23 year old or the two white male child killers from yesterday….
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 16 Jun 10:35
Police said they were not aware of any similar incidents subsequent to the one on 5 June which had been linked to immigrants online.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 16 Jun 11:18
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 16 Jun 10:35
Police said they were not aware of any similar incidents subsequent to the one on 5 June which had been linked to immigrants online.
If that is the case, then Im guessing someone has used the previous weeks attack to create misinformation.
The big problem these days is nobody knows what to believe anymore.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 16 Jun 13:04
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 16 Jun 10:35
Police said they were not aware of any similar incidents subsequent to the one on 5 June which had been linked to immigrants online.
Plenty online from locals saying this is not the case, all right wing, of course.
The uk is a mess.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 16 Jun 13:24
It certainly is a mess if people just believe anything posted on social media.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Tue 16 Jun 14:21
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 16 Jun 11:18
The big problem these days is nobody knows what to believe anymore.
Ah, but they do. Just whatever they want. If it fits their agenda/prejudices it must be true.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 16 Jun 14:42
And herein lies the problem. People undermine the truth by sharing information that turns out to be untrue. Just like the boy who cried wolf, people won`t believe when the truth IS told.
Out of interest, what happened about the alleged rape in the Glen? That story went quiet very quickly.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 16 Jun 14:47
Quote:
jake89, Tue 16 Jun 14:42
And herein lies the problem. People undermine the truth by sharing information that turns out to be untrue. Just like the boy who cried wolf, people won`t believe when the truth IS told.
Out of interest, what happened about the alleged rape in the Glen? That story went quiet very quickly.
Think they arrested and bailed a suspect, so guessing it’s now at the gathering evidence/sending trial/pending charges dropped etc. stage.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 17 Jun 15:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 16 Jun 13:04
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 16 Jun 10:35
Police said they were not aware of any similar incidents subsequent to the one on 5 June which had been linked to immigrants online.
Plenty online from locals saying this is not the case, all right wing, of course.
The uk is a mess.
Gone quiet ever since your agenda was found out....
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 17 Jun 19:51
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 17 Jun 15:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 16 Jun 13:04
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 16 Jun 10:35
Police said they were not aware of any similar incidents subsequent to the one on 5 June which had been linked to immigrants online.
Plenty online from locals saying this is not the case, all right wing, of course.
The uk is a mess.
Gone quiet ever since your agenda was found out....
Funnily enough there is a by-election tomorrow for Arbroath, how very strange that people were trying to stoke up a bit misinformation that would probably help the Reform vote
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 17 Jun 20:16
Report on the Today programme yesterday (some director that used to work at one of the big social media companies)..... there has been a significant increase fake stories negatively vs Burnham and fake positive pro-Reform ones.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 17 Jun 21:22
Quote:
ipswichpar, Wed 17 Jun 20:16
Report on the Today programme yesterday (some director that used to work at one of the big social media companies)..... there has been a significant increase fake stories negatively vs Burnham and fake positive pro-Reform ones.
There are people who STILL believe a man was beheaded by a Muslim in Edinburgh and the story about a bus was a cover up. Some people will only believe things that fit their own views.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 18 Jun 19:07
Iv never seen a story of a white guy on top of an Asian trying to cut his head off and gouging out an eye in Britain?
But if it had been then I could only imagine what would have happened.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 18 Jun 20:31
Quote:
Hoolie, Thu 18 Jun 19:07
Iv never seen a story of a white guy on top of an Asian trying to cut his head off and gouging out an eye in Britain?
But if it had been then I could only imagine what would have happened.
To be a pedant, it didn`t happen in Britain.
Take a look at the post below this and we have two white guys who have done something even worse.
This is about people who are evil scum, not about what ethnicity they are.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 18 Jun 20:54
Ah I get your point there Jake.
I probably don’t say this the right way but in a normal country say Scotland we are policed and conduct ourselves in a normal manner. Of course there will be nutjobs/drugs etc but the police are there to deal with it….problem is there has been an influx of migrants(they come to find jobs and integrate within our society) but there is the illegals who are hanging about causing tension in local communities..
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 19 Jun 00:10
Where is this happening and what are they doing to cause tensions?
Are you talking about legal migrants, asylum seekers or illegal migrants? The scumbag in Belfast was a legal migrant.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Jun 11:46
Knife attack down Leith Walk in Edinburgh last night. Has Stephen Yaxley-Lennon determined the colour of the arrested man`s skin yet?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 11:56
Quote:
jake89, Sat 20 Jun 11:46
Knife attack down Leith Walk in Edinburgh last night. Has Stephen Yaxley-Lennon determined the colour of the arrested man`s skin yet?
Very sad news, especially after the recent case with the life sentence for that youth.
I find it hard to understand why some humans believe it is a good idea to carry a knife and use it on another human.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 20 Jun 12:03
Quote:
jake89, Sat 20 Jun 11:46
Knife attack down Leith Walk in Edinburgh last night. Has Stephen Yaxley-Lennon determined the colour of the arrested man`s skin yet?
He was a white male, attacking people he believed to be Muslim…waiting on the protests and riots in Edinburgh tonight 🙄
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sat 20 Jun 18:39
He was a white male, attacking people he believed to be Muslim…waiting on the protests and riots in Edinburgh tonight 🙄
Something something mental health crisis.
Another example of how white men are being let down by society blah blah blah.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 20 Jun 23:59
Yeah but yeah but yeah but…
The great whataboutery thread!
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 21 Jun 00:28
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 20 Jun 23:59
Yeah but yeah but yeah but…
The great whataboutery thread!
Its not whataboutery. It’s calling out hypocrites that pick and choose to suit their agenda. Where are Rupert and Nigel today?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 21 Jun 00:35
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 21 Jun 00:28
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 20 Jun 23:59
Yeah but yeah but yeah but…
The great whataboutery thread!
Its not whataboutery. It’s calling out hypocrites that pick and choose to suit their agenda. Where are Rupert and Nigel today?
Calling out whataboutery with whataboutery and using whataboutery as evidence of it not being whataboutery?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 21 Jun 08:17
Is it a game of top trumps?
Some of you seem delighted it’s a white guy down Leith, no one should be cutting about with a machete.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sun 21 Jun 09:44
Just calling out the hypocrisy of racists.
Are you offended by that?
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 21 Jun 10:08
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 21 Jun 08:17
Is it a game of top trumps?
Some of you seem delighted it’s a white guy down Leith, no one should be cutting about with a machete.
It`s flagging the delight some people seem to have when a brown person does something bad.
It seems to be a running theme given Pochin`s smirk while discussing VAWG. They`re a bunch of shysters.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 21 Jun 11:51
Quote:
Wotsit, Sun 21 Jun 09:44
Just calling out the hypocrisy of racists.
Are you offended by that?
Why would i be?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 21 Jun 15:41
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 21 Jun 08:17
Is it a game of top trumps?
Some of you seem delighted it’s a white guy down Leith, no one should be cutting about with a machete.
☝🏻 ultimately that’s it.
Yet the same faces on both sides making political statements and a whole bunch of parrots and seals echo their noise
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 21 Jun 16:46
This has only become a whataboutery thread because for some unknown reason the crime of hacking away at people who may have looked like possibly being Muslim with a blade by a white man didn`t warrant getting its own thread started. In fact I`ve heard very little on the news about this , certainly in comparison to if it had been a brown skinned man hacking away at people he thought were Christians.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 21 Jun 19:16
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The One Who Knocks, Sun 21 Jun 16:46
This has only become a whataboutery thread because for some unknown reason the crime of hacking away at people who may have looked like possibly being Muslim with a blade by a white man didn`t warrant getting its own thread started. In fact I`ve heard very little on the news about this , certainly in comparison to if it had been a brown skinned man hacking away at people he thought were Christians.
It’s just more whataboutery though
Why in my opinion hasn’t this stabbing had more news coverage than that stabbing?
And let’s be honest, it’s always slanted the way that causes the most outrage.
The issue to me is the stabbing in the first place.
I also think the motivations behind the stabbings (especially the Edinburgh and Belfast ones) are basically moronic. You can’t look at a video of a boy running up and down the street topless with a knife and think that guys of sound mind. Same as watching someone trying to behead someone with a Stanley knife. He’s obviously wired up wrong.
Both individuals need dealt with but both cases are being politicised by basically every politician and political commentator and it’s not achieving anything. It’s just noise.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 21 Jun 20:15
The Edinburgh stabbing is arguably worse - he made his way from Broomhouse (where he stabbed 2 men post evening prayers) to Crewe Toll (where he attacked a taxi), on to ferry Road (where he flipped shelves in the BP) then onto Leith Walk where he caused carnage attacking 3 more men.
Where were the police in all this? It took place over a half hour period throughout the city…..worrying knowing I was in those areas a couple of hours later working on my own.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 22 Jun 00:22
That’s a very good question,where were the police? That area is rife with crime.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 22 Jun 11:13
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twin par, Mon 22 Jun 00:22
That’s a very good question,where were the police? That area is rife with crime.
It was a fairly big area he covered but I`m pretty sure there`s still an police station at Gayfield.
It`s interesting how the different stabbings have been reported.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 22 Jun 11:30
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jake89, Mon 22 Jun 11:13
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twin par, Mon 22 Jun 00:22
That’s a very good question,where were the police? That area is rife with crime.
It was a fairly big area he covered but I`m pretty sure there`s still an police station at Gayfield.
It`s interesting how the different stabbings have been reported.
Theres the old police college at Fettes, which is now a station…..right smack bang in the middle of it all and 30 seconds from the 2 petrol stations 😂 also one on Ferry Road in Drylaw….
Post Edited (Mon 22 Jun 11:31)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 22 Jun 12:13
Want a better police force? Need to drop the net zero and DEI stuff while also increasing their funding.
Right now all they can do is cherry pick low hanging fruits.
Steal something from a shop - get away with it.
Say something slightly controversial that may or may not breach the online safety act 2023 or the Hate crime and Public order (Scotland) act 2021 and there’s a fair chance someone will chap your door.
They already had the Communications Act 2003 but the 2 mentioned previously make things much less transparent and much easier to use.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 22 Jun 12:33
Net Zero is 0.2% of the UK GDP.
Public Sector Reform will see even bigger cuts to save money in the public sector.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 22 Jun 13:03
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jake89, Mon 22 Jun 12:33
Net Zero is 0.2% of the UK GDP.
Public Sector Reform will see even bigger cuts to save money in the public sector.
Net zero is £75k for 2 charging stations at a police station that didn’t have any electric vehicles or any room in the budget to buy vehicles. I can’t tell you where or how I know but that’s what it was.
BTW £75k is ridiculous for charging stations but the demands for H&S, documentation, sign offs and design changes total up to £75k
Im all for looking after the planet, cutting down on pollution but net zero in reality isn’t what it’s been sold as.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 22 Jun 13:18
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NMCmassive, Mon 22 Jun 13:03
Quote:
jake89, Mon 22 Jun 12:33
Net Zero is 0.2% of the UK GDP.
Public Sector Reform will see even bigger cuts to save money in the public sector.
Net zero is £75k for 2 charging stations at a police station that didn’t have any electric vehicles or any room in the budget to buy vehicles. I can’t tell you where or how I know but that’s what it was.
BTW £75k is ridiculous for charging stations but the demands for H&S, documentation, sign offs and design changes total up to £75k
Im all for looking after the planet, cutting down on pollution but net zero in reality isn’t what it’s been sold as.
So that £75k does 2 charging stations for what? Life? Unless, of course, they get damaged/need repaired.
That £75k would get you 2 officers for a year - just. Or one officer for 2 years. Don’t think a couple of charging ports are the issue tbh.
Post Edited (Mon 22 Jun 13:18)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 22 Jun 13:27
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 22 Jun 13:18
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NMCmassive, Mon 22 Jun 13:03
Quote:
jake89, Mon 22 Jun 12:33
Net Zero is 0.2% of the UK GDP.
Public Sector Reform will see even bigger cuts to save money in the public sector.
Net zero is £75k for 2 charging stations at a police station that didn’t have any electric vehicles or any room in the budget to buy vehicles. I can’t tell you where or how I know but that’s what it was.
BTW £75k is ridiculous for charging stations but the demands for H&S, documentation, sign offs and design changes total up to £75k
Im all for looking after the planet, cutting down on pollution but net zero in reality isn’t what it’s been sold as.
So that £75k does 2 charging stations for what? Life? Unless, of course, they get damaged/need repaired.
That £75k would get you 2 officers for a year - just. Or one officer for 2 years. Don’t think a couple of charging ports are the issue tbh.
Yeah, cos net zero spending stopped at £75k…
Put it this way, most Friday nights in Dunfermline there’s 1 squad of police on duty.
1 squad = 2 police in 1 car.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 22 Jun 17:30
£75k for two charging stations suggests crap procurement by Police Scotland if that`s the correct price. Imagine it costs more for commercial ones, but residential ones are under a grand to install. If all stations were to have two, presumably there are economies of scale?
From what I can see online the cost should have been closer to £40k but Police Scotland run a fleet of Hyundai Kona`s so need to charge them somewhere.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 23 Jun 09:17
I assume you aren`t moving to Jerusalem?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 10:42
Quote:
jake89, Mon 22 Jun 17:30
£75k for two charging stations suggests crap procurement by Police Scotland if that`s the correct price. Imagine it costs more for commercial ones, but residential ones are under a grand to install. If all stations were to have two, presumably there are economies of scale?
From what I can see online the cost should have been closer to £40k but Police Scotland run a fleet of Hyundai Kona`s so need to charge them somewhere.
Each station procures for its own needs. Doesn’t work at scale because the install and infrastructure are different at each station.
Also add in the costs for CDM and associated regs plus H&S and you get £75k for 2 chargers.
Apparently it’s all in the name of sustainability.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
COYP
Post Edited (Tue 23 Jun 10:50)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 10:55
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 10:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
Last doctor convicted of mass murder in this country was Jeffrey Archer - which race was he again? 🤔 or if you want more recent, Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 11:35
That’s a braindead argument right there.
Yes there are murderers and rapists that already live here. Does that justify importing more?
You do realise for every illegal we put up in a hotel we reduce our capacity for helping someone that needs help?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 11:57
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NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 11:35
That’s a braindead argument right there.
Yes there are murderers and rapists that already live here. Does that justify importing more?
You do realise for every illegal we put up in a hotel we reduce our capacity for helping someone that needs help?
Who said I was game for putting illegal immigrants in hotels? 🤔
Im just highlighting the wild hypocrisy thats all. Cant blame it all on immigrants, when theres plenty of examples of British Nationals doing the same, if not worse.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Tue 23 Jun 12:32
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
Last doctor convicted of mass murder in this country was Jeffrey Archer - which race was he again? 🤔 or if you want more recent, Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
Harold Shipman?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Jun 12:47
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:55
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
Denmark (near Roskilde) with a side of apartment in Kaunus, Lithuania.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 12:53
Quote:
parsfan, Tue 23 Jun 12:32
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
Last doctor convicted of mass murder in this country was Jeffrey Archer - which race was he again? 🤔 or if you want more recent, Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
Harold Shipman?
That was it! Knew it was one or the other 😂
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 23 Jun 14:02
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
Last doctor convicted of mass murder in this country was Jeffrey Archer - which race was he again? 🤔 or if you want more recent, Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
Jeffrey Archer? I must have missed that, I thought it was only his books that were murder.
Having said that he was absolutely livid with me when I spoke to him on the phone about 20 odd years ago. I never liked the man, and I was in a bad mood when he called into my work. I was being pleasant enough but calling him MISTER Archer, when he was demanding to be called by his proper title. He was even more raging when I said thought he had been stripped of his title when he went to jail for perjury in his hooker case, haha
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 14:49
Quote:
red-star-par, Tue 23 Jun 14:02
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Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
The double standards are shocking.
I think it’s the same throughout Europe/the west at the minute.
The only reason I can find is they’re simply chasing a GDP number so they can borrow more at a lower rate - basically kicking the financial can down the road a little further. Each kick gets heavier though.
Add on top things like celebrating the shutting down of Grangemouth as a great moment for “Green” something or other and then having to import the same amount of materials from elsewhere.
It’s like selling of the last of your heavy industry to a country who doesn’t manufacture to the same environmental standards then shipping it back on diesel powered vehicles and celebrating that the UK now creates less C02.
Like we’re literally running a country by cliches and wondering how our living standards and earnings are going backwards.
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
If you don’t mind me asking, where are you moving to or thinking of moving?
Last doctor convicted of mass murder in this country was Jeffrey Archer - which race was he again? 🤔 or if you want more recent, Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
Jeffrey Archer? I must have missed that, I thought it was only his books that were murder.
Having said that he was absolutely livid with me when I spoke to him on the phone about 20 odd years ago. I never liked the man, and I was in a bad mood when he called into my work. I was being pleasant enough but calling him MISTER Archer, when he was demanding to be called by his proper title. He was even more raging when I said thought he had been stripped of his title when he went to jail for perjury in his hooker case, haha
See above, made an error 😂 but I cant imagine him being that pleasant either!
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Tue 23 Jun 15:30
Quote:
Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
She`s probably innocent though.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 23 Jun 15:33
Looking at the performance of Middle Eastern and African teams in the World Cup, are there any hidden nuggets arriving on boats?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 23 Jun 15:52
Quote:
sadindiefreak, Tue 23 Jun 15:30
Quote:
Lucy Letby - whats her origins?
She`s probably innocent though.
If it was 1, maybe 2, she could possibly be….but 14……come on
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 23 Jun 15:53
Hang on, who exactly celebrated the closing of Grangemouth?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 20:43
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 12:47
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:55
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
Denmark (near Roskilde) with a side of apartment in Kaunus, Lithuania.
I’ve not been to Denmark but I love life in Eastern Europe. If the earnings were a little higher I’d be extremely tempted.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 20:51
Quote:
jake89, Tue 23 Jun 15:53
Hang on, who exactly celebrated the closing of Grangemouth?
Saying celebrating like they done it publicly might be an exaggeration but you can’t campaign on closing the oil industry then claim to be devastated when the oil industry moves away.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 21:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 11:57
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 11:35
That’s a braindead argument right there.
Yes there are murderers and rapists that already live here. Does that justify importing more?
You do realise for every illegal we put up in a hotel we reduce our capacity for helping someone that needs help?
Who said I was game for putting illegal immigrants in hotels? 🤔
Im just highlighting the wild hypocrisy thats all. Cant blame it all on immigrants, when theres plenty of examples of British Nationals doing the same, if not worse.
It’s not hypocritical though.
Like your boss moaning at you for being late then being late consistently themselves is hypocritical.
Murder by a citizen is already illegal and is punished. Hypocrisy would be not punishing a citizen for murder but punishing an immigrant.
I don’t understand the need to let the absolute dregs of someone else’s society become our problem?
Genuinely, real asylum seekers don’t turn up without documents, ID, passports. They make it known who they are because their identity and where they come from proves their need for asylum.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 23 Jun 21:39
An interesting statement on one of the BBC news radio programmes the other day.....
- Britain is now seen by immigrants as an extra shot at getting asylum (after being rejected by Europe)
- that`s what`s driving a lot of the increase in France
And the most worrying bit.......
- they were more likely to be accepted by the UK than the EU.
I hadn`t realised the third point was accurate.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Tue 23 Jun 22:19
Dave1885 - do you not have Google?
Jeffrey Archer and Harold Shipman are not the same person 🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 23 Jun 22:24
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 20:43
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 12:47
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:55
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
Denmark (near Roskilde) with a side of apartment in Kaunus, Lithuania.
I’ve not been to Denmark but I love life in Eastern Europe. If the earnings were a little higher I’d be extremely tempted.
I can`t speak highly enough about Lithuania, Kaunus is a cracking wee place, the people, eating out, great value and surprisingly laid back.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 23 Jun 22:51
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 22:24
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NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 20:43
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 12:47
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Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:55
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
Denmark (near Roskilde) with a side of apartment in Kaunus, Lithuania.
I’ve not been to Denmark but I love life in Eastern Europe. If the earnings were a little higher I’d be extremely tempted.
I can`t speak highly enough about Lithuania, Kaunus is a cracking wee place, the people, eating out, great value and surprisingly laid back.
Kaunas is on my list but yet to visit. I have been drinking with Lithuanians though and I seem to remember that Boney M was still very popular, maybe shows the age of those bevying with us tho 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣
Well I hope it all goes well for you!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 24 Jun 13:40
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NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 22:51
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 22:24
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NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 20:43
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 12:47
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Dave_1885, Tue 23 Jun 10:55
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Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
So, white guy attacks "terrorist incident".
A doctor or an engineer, it`s a mental health episode.
Thank goodness i`m permanently leaving this country because we`re being gaslit left right and centre, it`s an utter clown show.
Which country are you moving to?
Denmark (near Roskilde) with a side of apartment in Kaunus, Lithuania.
I’ve not been to Denmark but I love life in Eastern Europe. If the earnings were a little higher I’d be extremely tempted.
I can`t speak highly enough about Lithuania, Kaunus is a cracking wee place, the people, eating out, great value and surprisingly laid back.
Kaunas is on my list but yet to visit. I have been drinking with Lithuanians though and I seem to remember that Boney M was still very popular, maybe shows the age of those bevying with us tho 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣
Well I hope it all goes well for you!
Very kind, thank you, property is cheap over there but wages low, i would recommend a visit though, nice people, interesting place👌
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 24 Jun 18:41
The folk in Denmark will be thinking "bl00dy immigrants" coming over here, taking our jobs and our houses
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 24 Jun 18:58
"Come home to a real fire
Buy a cottage in Wales"
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 24 Jun 19:38
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 24 Jun 18:41
The folk in Denmark will be thinking "bl00dy immigrants" coming over here, taking our jobs and our houses
😂😂😂
Family ties👌
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 25 Jun 03:34
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 23 Jun 10:49
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 23 Jun 09:13
The World Cup in the USA might just give some folk an insight into how far behind them we are. Hampden, Celtic park and Ibrox look about 30 year behind them IMO
Clear from that that you’re not out here, they are imprisoned by their cars - pretty stadiums with zero infrastructure to get in and out and hours upon hours to travel in and out. Makes getting to Hampden look like 22nd century thinking. Even just getting around Miami is turgidly slow with 3.5 mile journeys taking nearly half an hour in a taxi.
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Thu 25 Jun 13:11
I can relate to that.
Gillette stadium is not in Boston. It’s 24 miles from there and 18 miles from Providence.
For the first game some of my family went by train from Boston. Cost $80 return.
They arrived at South station five hours before kick off. There were thousands already queuing in front of them.
It took the best part of an hour and a half in the heat and humidity to get on a train. There was one working toilet on the train!
I travelled by car with pre booked parking near the stadium. There is only one direction on Route 1 that the police would allow access towards the stadium. If you were driving south on Route 1 you had to go a further 5 miles to the next intersection to travel north. All side roads were blocked. It took us an hour and a half in traffic to cover the last mile to our parking place.
Then we all had to join the throng queuing to get through three gates to join another queue to go through airport security style screening.
The whole experience was both chaotic and frustrating. Not good for young families or elderly people.
Fortunately the experience at the second game was much better.
Yes the stadiums are modern but the stands reach high into the sky so players look like dots. That’s why they have huge screens at both ends of the stadium. Makes watching from behind the goals at Hamdump a treat!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 29 Jun 07:50
The car attack in London, the sexual assault in Oban, enrichment.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 29 Jun 17:27
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 29 Jun 07:50
The car attack in London, the sexual assault in Oban, enrichment.
I`ll never tire of asking this - what checks are done on immigrants? Clearly it`s hard to process people who have "lost" their documents but why aren`t they held for observation and assessment to determine their mental health? It`s not like this is new. We`ve had various parties and even more PMs in power yet none seem to have resolved this obvious issue.
Though worth highlighting that this is a minority of people but one incident is too many regardless of faith or ethnicity.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Mon 29 Jun 19:57
Tbh, I think we`re getting to the point where we need to be like:
"You`ve lost your documents?"
Fingerprints, DNA test and banned for life for illegal entry and an agreement between all European states to fund the database and detention centres.
"Don`t want to reveal your home state?"
Life in an offshore detention centre or deportation to your home state, your call.
I really get the sense in both Scotland and Sweden that people are sick of this whole situation and it`s really gonna create societal issues if there isn`t a proper crackdown. Sweden has seriously tightened up its citizenship requirements - when I naturalized I didn`t have to do a Swedish language test (although I had taken the national Gymnasium/High School exam and passed) which I thought was an absolute joke - and there seems to be a net decline in the "refugee" population and asylum applications. Denmark has seen the same and I reckon Finland and Norway will follow suit. A lot of focus on Somalis in Finland atm and the cost - was something like it takes 238 Finnish working years on average (i.e. the net economic contribution to the Finnish economy of 1 Finn year ca. €4k) to fund a lifetime`s benefits for one Somali - the figure was like €950k. Just nuts.
As an aside, as a Swedish Citizen, I can legally move to any other Nordic Union state and ask for citizenship after 2 years of residence there, no strings attached. I`m wondering if there will be a crackdown on that considering the disparity in the numbers of migrants between Sweden and the other NU states.
Post Edited (Mon 29 Jun 19:58)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 29 Jun 22:16
Where would an offshore processing plant be? I can`t imagine any of the UK islands agreeing to that. Plus what would be considered legit ID? Could it simply switch to traffickers moving into illegal papers?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 29 Jun 23:19
Yeah genuinely, we’ve got to take a hard line on illegal immigration. Denmark went one way and seems to be getting a lot of things right whereas Sweden went the other and has managed to get itself wrapped up in an ongoing gang/drug war. We’re lucky that’s not arrived here.
If they can’t get in legally, they can’t get in would be my policy. There’s usually reasons they can’t get in legally.
Tories botched the Rwanda’s thing. They didn’t have the proper infrastructure and legal system in place. They shot themselves in the foot and looked foolish in the process.
COYP
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Mon 29 Jun 23:51
Anything that states legal nationality would be considered legal ID, but most likely passport. Very difficult to properly so a fraudulent passport these days from what I gather.
In terms of detention centres, there is probably somewhere in the collective European territories with the seabed at a level where you could create an artificial island a-la Kansai or Hong Kong Airport. Create it as a collective European project with each country responsible for a portion of the construction and maintenance costs. (I can see the Poles objecting to this though as they haven`t let any in in the first place!) Use the crappy Chinese kit buildings to keep the costs down and conditions to the point where it actually acts as a deterrent. Could even have a rotating military deployment to staff the thing. Just an idea, but can imagine it would be feasible with enough collective will from European states.
Pretty sure the Danes actually did something like this fairly recently, but I could be wrong.
Post Edited (Mon 29 Jun 23:53)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 30 Jun 16:05
But what happens if the person has come from a war torn country where their passport and records have been legitimately destroyed?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 1 Jul 01:20
Quote:
jake89, Tue 30 Jun 16:05
But what happens if the person has come from a war torn country where their passport and records have been legitimately destroyed?
But but but… there’s always a but…
They always come from war torn countries or are gay or are only children/u18 etc etc etc
They always give an excuse for why they can’t be rejected.
Let’s not forget that the likelihood is they’ve traveled past if not through Spain, France, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, North Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania and Poland. None of which are war torn…
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 1 Jul 08:23
English tends to be a more universal language though. People certainly aren`t coming here for a quality of life!
So what happens if I throw away all my ID and stowaway on a boat to Amsterdam? How do they identify me? Even if I can be identified, how do they know if I`m a risk to the public or not? We might keep thorough records in the UK, but I can`t imagine Iran is keeping tabs of people in that way. Not publicly anyway.
It would need to be a case of "No ID? You`ll be kept under observation until we determine who you are and that you are of no risk."
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 1 Jul 09:04
Just more excuses to allow organised crime. It’s totally irresponsible not to have a strong border because it does fuel organised crime.
They’re not even trying to hide it anymore either, Turkish barbers, vape shops, kebab/takeaways etc.
We are doing a disservice to people that run those types of businesses legitimately by allowing that to happen.
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 1 Jul 11:27
It`s not an excuse, it`s basic facts. It`s why the approach to processing needs reviewed. Would you let some random you don`t know anything about take a job at your company or babysit your kids? Of course not. So why do we take someone`s word that they`re 14 and are of sound mind?
The barbers etc are an obvious front for money laundering but nothing is done by the government. Why?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 1 Jul 11:47
I often think journalists have a big part of play in the amount of political issues we have.
In the same way I feel the same about lawyers and justice.
I suspect the police aren`t looking into a lot of this now as it would just lead to long legal cases that would probably be lost.
And the change in policing to stop walking the beat.
I think Channel 4 and BBC News teams are probably doing more on the investigative fronts..... or at least l, that`s what it feels like.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 1 Jul 12:23
Quote:
jake89, Tue 30 Jun 16:05
But what happens if the person has come from a war torn country where their passport and records have been legitimately destroyed?
They`ll have crossed many safe countries to get here, send them to one of those.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 1 Jul 12:25
Serious question to the "it isn`t all of them" crew, would you wave those virtues in the face of a rape victim or their family? What would you say?
Imagine living in a country where voicing concern is treated as racism.
So glad i`m out of here.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 1 Jul 12:53
It`s interesting that there isn`t the same outrage to returning "soldiers" from a war torn country living in our midst, after committing genocide?🤔
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 1 Jul 13:24
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 1 Jul 12:23
Quote:
jake89, Tue 30 Jun 16:05
But what happens if the person has come from a war torn country where their passport and records have been legitimately destroyed?
They`ll have crossed many safe countries to get here, send them to one of those.
And yet they have a better percentage chance of getting their application approved here than those other countries.
Taking us out of Europe has definitely not helped. Not that Five Mil Nige is accountable for any of the mess he has made.
It is bonkers.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 1 Jul 14:07
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 1 Jul 12:53
It`s interesting that there isn`t the same outrage to returning "soldiers" from a war torn country living in our midst, after committing genocide?🤔
Because you`re not allowed to complain about Israeli rapists and murderers.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Wed 01 Jul 15:26)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 1 Jul 16:50
Quote:
jake89, Wed 1 Jul 11:27
It`s not an excuse, it`s basic facts. It`s why the approach to processing needs reviewed. Would you let some random you don`t know anything about take a job at your company or babysit your kids? Of course not. So why do we take someone`s word that they`re 14 and are of sound mind?
The barbers etc are an obvious front for money laundering but nothing is done by the government. Why?
Exactly, you wouldn’t let a pure random in so why offer them an excuse you know they’ll use? It’s got to be a definite no to all illegal migrants. Prove you’re an asylum seeker or out you go.
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 1 Jul 23:12
So where do they get sent to? I`m not disagreeing but the issue is someone is effectively undocumented so who would take them?
The key thing for me is to discourage non-genuine or questionable individuals from even attempting to enter the UK. The Tories tried this with the Rwanda but that was daft, just a timid copy of what the Australians have done. The better solution would be to continue to process people in the UK but be clear that genuine cases will be waved through but anyone questionable will be held until they can be identified as genuine and not a threat.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 2 Jul 07:01
Send them back from where they came.
And if we can`t do that then in jail for indefinite period.
This is like running away from a bear..... we don`t need to be perfect, we just need to less appealing than other places.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clye9zn0y1ro
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 2 Jul 08:49
Lovely video doing the rounds of a guy getting off a boat saying "this is the end of England"
This is deliberate, i wonder who came up with "the melting pot"?
We`re being taken for mugs and the rising crime figures used against us.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Jul 09:15
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 2 Jul 07:01
Send them back from where they came.
And if we can`t do that then in jail for indefinite period.
This is like running away from a bear..... we don`t need to be perfect, we just need to less appealing than other places.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clye9zn0y1ro
Can`t send them back if we don`t know where they came from!
That story is a shocker. How did he get in so easily? Things made worse by that idiot Farage and his push for Brexit that means we have little goodwill with mainland Europe and no longer have access to their databases. It`s a joke.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Thu 2 Jul 09:37
If we can`t identify where they came from or they refuse to disclose it, then they should be detained indefinitely.
It really should be that simple.
I think quite a few EU Governments are gonna be forced into legislating very strict information rules within the next few years because it`s really coming to a head.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 2 Jul 09:38
Which is why I added the "and if", jake.
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jul 09:39)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 2 Jul 10:46
Quote:
hurricane_jimmy, Thu 2 Jul 09:37
If we can`t identify where they came from or they refuse to disclose it, then they should be detained indefinitely.
It really should be that simple.
I think quite a few EU Governments are gonna be forced into legislating very strict information rules within the next few years because it`s really coming to a head.
Information rules that WE`LL have to adhere to.
Starmer doing what his jewish owners tell him.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 3 Jul 10:06
Was information rules a typo? Why would anyone want to have rules on what information we’re allowed to have or share? If that’s the route for the labour government it won’t take long for it to turn into an authoritarian state before eventually failing
COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 3 Jul 10:25
Eh? There already ARE rules on what information can and cannot be shared. Governments need to have information sharing agreements outlined in legislation.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Fri 3 Jul 13:26
The whole information sharing thing is a bit of a tightrope. Having had family that have been involved in counter-terrorism policing, the average Joe would be REALLY surprised at how much stuff they actually prevent. And to do this, they need to be able to operate with a certain degree of secrecy. Some of the stories I`ve heard on this kinda subject are pretty stomach-churning and they`ve put me firmly in the camp of "If you`ve nothing to hide, then you`ve nothing to fear".
As a Swedish citizen, I genuinely believe that, regardless of which party is in power, the Police and other authorities will do their best to prevent such incidents and protect citizens. In Scotland, I would say pretty much the same, but I would really distrust the British Government when it comes to political interfering as they quite obviously spy on the pro-Independence parties, as well as meddling in other nations affairs in a way that Sweden does not.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 3 Jul 14:58
Well if the pro independence parties have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear do they?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 3 Jul 15:00
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 3 Jul 14:58
Well if the pro independence parties have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear do they?
And we have the standard head in the sand reply.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 3 Jul 15:21
I have plenty to hide from the government. All of it is currently legal, and none of it is any of their business.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 3 Jul 15:58
There aren`t any `pro-independence parties` in the UK. They`re all trying to `rip our country apart`.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 3 Jul 17:31
I don’t trust the Scottish government more than Westminster. I don’t trust either. Both have documented cases of reasons to not trust them. Both try and shut down things that could be damaging to them.
I genuinely believe the majority of police officers are doing their best. They do not have the proper funding and they’re totally hampered by crazy policy and political influences north and south of the border.
It’s not an argument of left v right anymore. It suits politicians that folk argue about left v right. It doesn’t suite them when we look for evidence of competence, honesty and integrity.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 3 Jul 17:37
Andrew, you`d need to read HJs post to understand the contradiction I was highlighting.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 3 Jul 19:11
Information sharing is somewhat amusing to me. People want personalised services but don`t like the government knowing their business. Right now Tesco and Netflix know more about you than any government. What Alphabet and Meta know about you is probably horrifying. People don`t seem to mind about billionaires having their data though. It`s bizarre.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 3 Jul 19:19
They must love it when the flak gets directed at politicians.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 3 Jul 23:39
Government doesn’t want to sell you something and have it sent to your door next day delivery. Big companies literally want to make money from you.
The government want to go through your online posts to see if you’ve said anything they don’t like and know what comes and goes into your bank account in case they can find something they can tax you on or see if you’re buying something they think you shouldn’t.
There’s a bit of a difference.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jul 08:54
Another rape and anoyher violent attack in Glasgow.
More enrichment.
Afghan in Lancs raped 2 14 year old girls.
Enriched.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jul 09:27)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 7 Jul 07:47
Glasgow again, another new Scot.
Oh and it turns out it WAS a dog being cooked in the videos.
Diversity is strength though.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 7 Jul 09:18
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 7 Jul 07:47
Glasgow again, another new Scot.
Oh and it turns out it WAS a dog being cooked in the videos.
Diversity is strength though.
I`d recommend people avoid that video. Truly disgusting. I hope these people are being arrested.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 7 Jul 15:58
if your daft enough to attend a racist demo and daft enough to set fire to yourself i guess 40months inside isnt really a big thing
https://www.psni.police.uk/latest-news/man-19-sentenced-court-following-ballymena-disorder
A sentence was handed down by Antrim Crown Court on Monday, 6th July, in connection with disorder in Ballymena in June 2025.
Nineteen-year-old Michael Elliot was sentenced to 40 months, with 20 months to be spent in custody and the remaining 20 months on licence, after he was convicted of common law riot.
Elliot, from the Ballymena area, was arrested after he was identified as having participated in serious disorder in Ballymena on Tuesday, 10th June 2025.
Detective Inspector Gallagher said: “In shameful scenes, there was large-scale disorder by people intent on causing harm. Damage was caused to roads, homes, cars and local business premises with people left fearing for their lives.
“Our officers came under attack and many left injured after petrol bombs, heavy masonry and fireworks were thrown at them.
“At the time, we assured the public that we will work tirelessly to restore calm and ensure that anyone who chooses to take part in this criminality is brought to justice.
“Our dedicated investigation team has worked tirelessly to ensure that those involved are prosecuted – today’s sentencing is one of many over this disorder.
“We would also repeat our appeal to anyone who has been the victim of, or has any information on, any crime to contact police on 101, or 999 in an emergency. We can assure you that we will always act on concerns and information we receive.”
Alternatively, a report can be submitted online using the non-emergency reporting form https://reporting.psni.police.uk/appeals Should you wish to make a report anonymously, you can do so by contacting Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or online at www.crimestoppers-uk.org
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 9 Jul 08:25
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
We all know rape was an immigrants idea...
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 9 Jul 12:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 9 Jul 08:25
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
We all know rape was an immigrants idea...
Rock up to the lassie`s family held down by two of them a say that.
We`ve plenty beasts of own without inviting more in.
Muppet.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 9 Jul 12:28
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 12:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 9 Jul 08:25
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
We all know rape was an immigrants idea...
Rock up to the lassie`s family held down by two of them a say that.
We`ve plenty beasts of own without inviting more in.
Muppet.
Any idiot looking at one set of data with a bias can form a pattern....
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 9 Jul 13:33
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 9 Jul 12:28
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 12:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 9 Jul 08:25
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
We all know rape was an immigrants idea...
Rock up to the lassie`s family held down by two of them a say that.
We`ve plenty beasts of own without inviting more in.
Muppet.
Any idiot looking at one set of data with a bias can form a pattern....
Tell that to the American woman`s family beaten to death in Ireland today?
Suicidal empathy until it affects you.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 9 Jul 14:28
And another one in Glasgow.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Thu 9 Jul 15:52
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 12:15
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 9 Jul 08:25
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 07:18
Another rape in glasgow.
Integration.
We all know rape was an immigrants idea...
Rock up to the lassie`s family held down by two of them a say that.
We`ve plenty beasts of own without inviting more in.
Muppet.
There is no point in conversing with these people, Dandy. There could be 1000 tomorrow and they’d still trot out the same nonsense.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 10 Jul 07:10
Catching and cooking seagulls, another fantastic norm brought in by the the third world.
Enrichment.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Fri 10 Jul 09:43
This country has gone down the pan...Working down in Manchester/Birmingham and the places are s**tholes. Folk just hanging about all over the place in groups.
All these lefty idiots spouting we should be integrating them into our society blah blah.....we all know they have different mindsets and come from a 3rd world culture where its just a different way of life.
As Dandy says they are catching/cooking our seagulls now ffs! When does it end?
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 10 Jul 09:54
I for one appreciate the reduction in seagull numbers, long may it continue (evidence of said consumption would be nice though...)
Post Edited (Fri 10 Jul 11:44)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 10 Jul 11:52
Quote:
Hoolie, Fri 10 Jul 09:43
This country has gone down the pan...Working down in Manchester/Birmingham and the places are s**tholes. Folk just hanging about all over the place in groups.
All these lefty idiots spouting we should be integrating them into our society blah blah.....we all know they have different mindsets and come from a 3rd world culture where its just a different way of life.
As Dandy says they are catching/cooking our seagulls now ffs! When does it end?
Was down Coventry in 1973 and groups were meeting in the public park, just ask the Par`s fans about experiences at the West Brom away match.
My Aunt stays in North London and it`s like Tel Aviv!
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 10 Jul 12:44
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 14:28
And another one in Glasgow.
Another lynch mob of right wing bams targeting an innocent black families house.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 10 Jul 13:25
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 10 Jul 09:54
I for one appreciate the reduction in seagull numbers, long may it continue (evidence of said consumption would be nice though...)
There`s literally video ffs.
When does your illegal immigrant lodger move in?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 10 Jul 13:26
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Andrew283, Fri 10 Jul 12:44
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Dandy Warhol, Thu 9 Jul 14:28
And another one in Glasgow.
Another lynch mob of right wing bams targeting an innocent black families house.
No, another rape, double figures in less than two weeks, you must be delighted.
Diversity.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 10 Jul 17:24
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Dandy Warhol, Fri 10 Jul 07:10
Catching and cooking seagulls, another fantastic norm brought in by the the third world.
Enrichment.
More useful at dealing with the seagull population than the government/local councillors!
Seagulls are a pest, a vermin and their numbers are wildly out of control. Should be actively shot from the skies.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 10 Jul 19:18
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LochgellyAlbert, Fri 10 Jul 11:52
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Hoolie, Fri 10 Jul 09:43
This country has gone down the pan...Working down in Manchester/Birmingham and the places are s**tholes. Folk just hanging about all over the place in groups.
All these lefty idiots spouting we should be integrating them into our society blah blah.....we all know they have different mindsets and come from a 3rd world culture where its just a different way of life.
As Dandy says they are catching/cooking our seagulls now ffs! When does it end?
Was down Coventry in 1973 and groups were meeting in the public park, just ask the Par`s fans about experiences at the West Brom away match.
My Aunt stays in North London and it`s like Tel Aviv!
What happened at the West Brom game?
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Fri 10 Jul 19:18
Wow imagine wanting the seagulls gone by a 3rd world illegal eating them instead of what is happening to the attacks on young British girls/people…some of you are just not right in the head…
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