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 Remakes
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 19:38

Apparently Disney have work ongoing with a remake of the original Home Alone, a disaster waiting on what is a pretty classic christmas movie.

Begs the question, are there any remakes that have been better than the original and what have been the worst?
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 20:13

No remake I've ever seen beats the original.
Therfore I decree all remakes ultimately pointless.... Imo of course



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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 20:22

Scarface.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 21:24

I think the alien sequels were excellent.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 21:26

Didn't think we were talking about sequels or prequels... Or am I wrong 🤔



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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 21:32

Aliens was good, 3 was very forgettable and 4 was good until the last 20 mins where it became a steaming pile of shoite
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Sacha  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 21:52

Cape Fear.
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 22:08

The Thing from 1982 is quite good.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: neilholland999  
Date:   Wed 7 Aug 22:46

Remakes of Casino Royale, Oceans 11 and King Kong were all better than the originals IMO. Also, some of the modern takes on Batman are really good.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: GG741  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 04:20

Will that be Home Alone 5 then?

Do Bond films qualify as 'remakes'?
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 06:50

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GG741, Thu 8 Aug 04:20

Will that be Home Alone 5 then?

Do Bond films qualify as 'remakes'?


Casino Royale was a remake. The only one. Seems to be a bit confusion over what a remake is. It's the same plot, not a sequel.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 07:16

They are remaking the night at the museum films too and Disney might be able to a better job at that. With home along it’s going to be hard to get someone to match the iconic Kevin role, no doubt someone like Kevin hart will be one of the burglars.

Guessing with Disney now owning the fox rights there will likely be no more alien or predator films, yes all the recent ones have been pretty awful but there’s still so much potential there.

With Disney setting up their own streaming service I can’t imagine it will be long before they have withdrawn all content to their own platform and this includes marvel films etc. As usual it will be the consumer getting screwed.

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 07:19

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BigJPar, Thu 8 Aug 06:50

Quote:

GG741, Thu 8 Aug 04:20

Will that be Home Alone 5 then?

Do Bond films qualify as 'remakes'?


Casino Royale was a remake. The only one. Seems to be a bit confusion over what a remake is. It's the same plot, not a sequel.


Was Never Say Never Again not a remake of Thunderball? Not the usual studio behind it, I know, but still a remake.

And Terminator 2, is that a sequel and a remake?

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 07:42

The general consensus seems to be that Terminator 2 is a sequel.
Can't be a remake as so much of the first film is referenced in T2





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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 09:18

Officially, yes, but using the same plot (& dialogue) definition it's more or less just a big budget remake.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 10:41

This is from the original Scarface's wiki page:

After his death in 1976, filmmakers were able to gain access to the rights to Scarface which sparked the 1983 remake starring Al Pacino.[130] Though rare for a remake, the 1983 version was also critically acclaimed.

I think Scarface would qualify as a remake and I just saw while digging that up that it looks like it's being remade again.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 11:17

"Casino Royale was a remake. The only one. Seems to be a bit confusion over what a remake is. It's the same plot, not a sequel."

Calling the Daniel Craig Casino Royale a remake is surely stretching things a bit? The only things in common with the first film of the same name are the title and a few characters names. Had they managed to make a film based on the novel they had the rights to as originally intended then fair enough, but the David Niven/Woody Allen/Orson Welles film is more of a parody than anything else.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 15:11

A Star Is Born with Lady Gaga is a remake.

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is a remake as well. Not seen the original but remember it being touted as a remake that was better than original when it came out.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 17:19

I enjoyed 'A Star is Born' - I think it was 2nd remake ?

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 18:25

How can they remake a Night at the Museum? It's barely a decade old!

All the Terminator movies have been sequels or reboots. The one being filmed right now is the sequel to T2 despite being the 6th(?) film in the franchise.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 18:33

The Manchurian Candidate is, for me a better remake.

If you only turn up to moan then do it elsewhere
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 20:44

The departed.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: AJ27  
Date:   Thu 8 Aug 21:48

The Magnificent Seven was a pretty magnificent remake of the Seven Samurai
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Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 10:23

Thomas Crown Affair
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 14:45

Oceans 11 and I guess you can class the new Oceans (8) with the all female cast as a remake ? Same as Ghostbusters ?

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 15:40

That doesn't count as it was rubbish
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 17:26

The Maltese Falcon (Bogart)
The Fly (Goldblum)
The Thing (Carpenter)
Heat (Pacino/De Niro)
A fistful of Dollars (Eastwood)
Cape fear (De Niro)
True Grit (Jeff Bridges)
The Wizard of Oz (Made twice before Judy Garland)
King Kong (1978)
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (D Sutherland)
Never say Never Again (Thunderball)
A Star is Born (pick one)
Piranha 3D (Kelly Brooks norks)
Let me in (US version)
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid (Redford / Newman)

All remakes (arguably) better than originals, some you may have thought were the original

That all said I remember seeing Home Alone at the cinema and it was utter garbage


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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: average white par  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 18:06

Ben - Hur

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 18:25

Great shout out for Heat there P. Was a TV movie called LA Takedown first wasn't it. Arguably the last great performances by De Niro and Pacino prior to this year.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 18:47

Thing is not to remake a CLASSIC. Films like Home Alone don't need remakes.

They could maybe reboot it like has been done with Jumanji.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 19:49

That’s correct TOWK

Thing to remember Jake is they aren’t making it for you, especially with children’s films different generations watch movies through a different lense according to the sensibilities of the time. Kids today couldn’t watch the original at the cinema it’s just so dated. I’m sure when they remade Miracle on 42nd St from the B&Q version people said the same and they didn’t do a bad job.

I think I’ve mellowed as new content doesn’t replace the versions I hold dear

Couple others popped into my head;
IT the movie is far superior to the mini series (although it’s half told) and
TV made Manhunter into the vastly superior Hannibal and Westworld into Westword

Actually the makers wouldn’t admit it but Terminator is to Westworld what 7 Samuarai is to the Magnificent 7
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 20:40

Still say you can't mess with these things successfully. You can take a rubbish film and redo it well. Or take a genuinely old film and modernise it. But Home Alone was a massive success and isnt that old.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 20:57

It’s 30 years old next year, many of the people who saw it at the cinema as children will have their own teenage kids by now 😱😂




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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 21:53

I'm not saying it's as good as It's a Wonderful Life, but you would never remake that, would you? Timeless.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 22:53

The only classic that should never be remade is Jaws. It's rated highly by critics and audiences alike but for me that still doesn't do it justice. I suspect younger audiences can't see past the rather dated animtronics to the razor sharp script, perfectly developed characters, top drawer acting and incredible score. The very first summer blockbuster. They just don't make them like that anymore.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: doctordandruff  
Date:   Fri 9 Aug 23:01

Ghostbusters!!! Who ya gonna call. 4 really unfunny women directed by an imbecil who doesn't understand what made Ghostbusters special.

I'd add Nutty Proffessor. Purely for Sherman's family.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sat 10 Aug 00:23

Is fistful off dollars the remake of yojimbo?
If so then have to say I prefer the original?
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 10 Aug 08:46

"The departed."

Seriously, Zod? It's a good film but Infernal Afairs is even better IMO, it's more claustrophobic, more tense and more realistic.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: eastendalloapar  
Date:   Sat 17 Aug 19:00

My favourite Christmas film is A Christmas Carol. It has been remade many many times. My favourite is the 1951 version, but most others are also good. Unfortunately they all have the same ending, personally I wish there was one where he kept his money.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 18 Aug 12:33

"Mutiny On The Bounty" has had two remakes to my knowledge, all versions with top casts - each one was excellent.

Not sure why "True Grit" needed a remake, the original was (and still is) a classic.

I read somewhere that "The Battle of Britain" is in the frame for another version, likewise "The Dambusters" at some point.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Sun 18 Aug 13:36

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veteraneastender, Sun 18 Aug 12:33
I read somewhere that "The Battle of Britain" is in the frame for another version, likewise "The Dambusters" at some point.


Hollywood? No doubt the Americans will be claiming the credit there as well.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 18 Aug 17:40

A few Americans served in the RAF during the BoB, mostly KIA I believe - and one of 617's Lancasters on the Dambuster sortie was flown by an American, Joe McCarthy, a bit of a legend in the squadron.

Decorated by King George VI.

I doubt that's enough to get the Hollywood treatment though.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 18 Aug 18:26

Wasn't the Eagle Squadron all American?

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 19 Aug 09:45

"Wasn't the Eagle Squadron all American?"

First formed during BoB and became operational Feb. 1941.

Three operational eventually, later transferred to the USAAF when America entered the war.



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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Mon 26 Aug 14:00

One film that I think deserves a remake - purely because it could really benefit from some of the new technology - is the 1972 classic sci-fi, Silent Running, that starred the brilliant Bruce Dern.

The film was made on a budget of $1 million which even back then was not a lot of money for a Hollywood production. Sometimes the low budget was in evidence, but the overall quality of the storyline and performances more than made up for that.

Other favourites of mine from that era were Midnight Cowboy, Soldier Blue and my all-time favourite movie, Little Big Man. However, they were all practically flawless and watching them today it is hard to imagine how they could be improved.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Mon 26 Aug 14:29

Silent running is one of my favourite films so please don't remake it if you're reading this Mr Hollywood director 🤣



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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 26 Aug 15:17

Aye it's a classic Wid. John Candy is superb in it.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Mon 26 Aug 15:41

Nah, he won't bite on that, TOWK...

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Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Mon 26 Aug 21:58


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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 27 Aug 00:37

True it gets a bit scmaltzy at the end but c'mon! Jamaica is in the tropics and they are putting together a bobsleigh team!

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Tue 27 Aug 01:35

Cool!

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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Tue 27 Aug 06:52

“What yah smokin, I’m not smokin. I’m breathing” classic!
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 28 Aug 15:53

"One film that I think deserves a remake - purely because it could really benefit from some of the new technology - is the 1972 classic sci-fi, Silent Running, that starred the brilliant Bruce Dern."

OK Oz, quiz time - what distinction did Bruce Dern achieve on screen in another 1972 film ?
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 00:33

Okay, you got me, VEE. I give in...

:)
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 01:03

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veteraneastender, Wed 28 Aug 15:53

"One film that I think deserves a remake - purely because it could really benefit from some of the new technology - is the 1972 classic sci-fi, Silent Running, that starred the brilliant Bruce Dern."

OK Oz, quiz time - what distinction did Bruce Dern achieve on screen in another 1972 film ?


Only actor to kill John Wayne in a film.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 07:34

Ooh! That’s a very good one. I would never have thought of that.

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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 08:20

Not sure if he was ONLY actor to kill JW - but he was the last - in “The Cowboys” 1972.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 08:27

Quick Google brings this info up. There are seven films that John Wayne died on screen, they are presented here in reverse chronological order:
THE SHOOTIST (1976) - Killed in gunfight in saloon at end of film.
THE COWBOYS (1972) - Killed by Bruce Dern and avenged by the boys.
THE ALAMO (1960) - As Davy Crockett killed by Mexican soldier lance.
SANDS OF IWO JIMA (1949) - Killed by sniper bullet at end of film.
WAKE OF THE RED WITCH (1949) - Killed as ship plunged off ledge and sank with Octopus.
THE FIGHTING SEABEES (1944) - Killed by sniper as he was about to leap from bulldozer.
REAP THE WILD WIND (1942) - Killed by squid undersea.



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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 08:31

He gets shot in the back and dies in the Shootist which is also his last film
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 08:54

I had forgotten "The Shootist" - well spotted.

John Carradine, another famous performer, and "founder" of that prominent acting family was also in the film.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Mario  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 09:27

Zooming off at a tangent...

War of the Worlds movies were both set in the decade they were made. The BBC are now redoing this classic novel set in the decade it was written.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 13:16

Cheers for that Mario - it should be presented in the era that H.G.Wells wrote it.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 15:43

Quote:

widtink, Thu 29 Aug 08:27

Quick Google brings this info up. There are seven films that John Wayne died on screen, they are presented here in reverse chronological order:
THE SHOOTIST (1976) - Killed in gunfight in saloon at end of film.
THE COWBOYS (1972) - Killed by Bruce Dern and avenged by the boys.
THE ALAMO (1960) - As Davy Crockett killed by Mexican soldier lance.
SANDS OF IWO JIMA (1949) - Killed by sniper bullet at end of film.
WAKE OF THE RED WITCH (1949) - Killed as ship plunged off ledge and sank with Octopus.
THE FIGHTING SEABEES (1944) - Killed by sniper as he was about to leap from bulldozer.
REAP THE WILD WIND (1942) - Killed by squid undersea.


The Cowboys is the only film where he is killed by an actor who appears in the movies credits.

Bruce Dern himself is quoted as saying he always got cast as a villain as he is the only actor to kill John Wayne.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: Ben,D.A  
Date:   Thu 29 Aug 16:12

Bruce Dern has also played an octopus, squid, Mexican soldier, sniper and an unidentified gun fighter.
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 Re: Remakes
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Thu 19 Sep 10:10

The Thing is miles ahead of the original,it's a John Carpenter masterpiece.

Cape fear isn't necessarily better but it's at least on par with the original.

I watched the remake of Flatliners last night and I enjoyed it but I can't remember the original so can't compare.

Dawn of the dead was an excellent representation of the original,and I'm a man who can't stand running zombies.
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