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 Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 25 Apr 20:48

The big man up there is not helping us.... what a load of rubbish.
If you are religious šŸ˜…šŸ˜…šŸ˜… a load of nonesense!



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 25 Apr 21:04

Edgy

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 25 Apr 21:08

Guaranteed no religious folk will respond...šŸ˜…



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 25 Apr 21:49

That's almost exactly what an Italian priest said when an earthquake struck southern Italy on a Sunday evening in 1985 and flattened a church during Mass, killing many children who were in attendance.

"Where were you God, when we needed you?"

There's no doubt that the faith of those who have it, will be severely tested at times like these.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 25 Apr 23:11

Oh come on GG there has been no religious leader come out and talk?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 16:59

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EEP, Sat 25 Apr 23:11

Oh come on GG there has been no religious leader come out and talk?


Actually, the Pope has asked his faithful to pray for all those affected by Covid-19 and their families all over the world. He usually addresses his audience from St Peter's every Sunday morning. Normally the square is packed with pilgrims, but now those who want to have to watch it on TV.



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 17:48

Would he not be better getting the faithful to pray that God simply makes the virus stop infecting /killing people?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 18:53

When do the schools go back?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 18:59

^^
lol



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 20:18

Iā€™m not being funny but do folk honestly believe in their religions when this has happened?
Surely the normal people of society can see that religion is nonesense?
I see a lot of posts... god be by your side and only god can help you....utter pihs!
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 20:38

Ach EEP that is a bit extreme and unfair I am not religious but to say they are not normal people is wrong ...who are and what is normal ? ...certainly not you or me thats for sure

Religion is a great comfort for many and as long as they do not try and convince us then I do not see anything wrong with them being religious

Live and let live EEP

Take care Stay safe
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 21:10

So what has religion offered you? When you say them?



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 21:46

Their good book tells us their god is a bit vengeful so I guess they just assume he has a backlog of smiting to get through šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: average white par  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 21:52

Aye, Buspasspar, "When you say them?"

When you say them this offer religion? Where go to them religion offer? What them offer donkey what?
When them answer religion Doritos?

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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 26 Apr 22:20

Aye ok Average White Par....nobody has come out being religious and said anything about god, Christ or anything that could help us during the worst time we have on this planet? So my original question stands......where is god to help us?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Stoo  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 00:04

The whole religion/Gods existence argument is a moot point and I have a very pointless degree in Religious Studies.

People who believe in an omniscient, omnipotent God live in a different form of reality to me.

I learned very quickly that debating the subject is pointless, to the point that people who overtly criticise the religious are as daft as those who preach their religious beliefs. Organised religion and a belief in the supernatural, including God, is a nonsense, no doubt about it but the arguments against it are as over done as the arguments for it and so its a waste of everyones time.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 00:35

Slayer got it spot on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Hates_Us_All

https://youtu.be/bRf4B_5DqlU



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: shrek par  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 01:47

They certainly did.

Admin.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 19:04

I don't really want to get drawn into a religious argument or about the existence of God, that should be a private, personal matter, imo, but I'd like to make a few observations;

Believing in a Creator and/ or an afterlife, helps to ease the fear of dying for some people.

The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.

Having a firm belief in a faith or religion is a source of comfort for many people.

I realise as I post this that some will ridicule this, but I worked alongside many devout and religious people, whom I was able to observe and listen to, so my observations have not been plucked out of thin air.



Not your average Sunday League player.


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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 19:31

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GG Riva, Mon 27 Apr 19:04

The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.


Think the key word here is *some*. I know someone who goes to Church, is a member of all the Church groups and is married to a minister. They can be incredibly unkind and I know they nicked a bottle of hand sanitizer out the office! Not what you'd call very "Christian".

Can we sum this thread up my simply listening to XTC's classic Dear God?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 23:38

There is thousands that have died around the world and the religious state have been quiet? Where is the guy Parrot that used to spout about religion on this site?
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Mon 27 Apr 23:48

Parrot used to get into some debates about religion with another poster but I can't remember his name......maybe he goes by a different handle these days anyway.

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Thu 30 Apr 11:40

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EEP, Mon 27 Apr 23:38

There is thousands that have died around the world and the religious state have been quiet? Where is the guy Parrot that used to spout about religion on this site?


Parrot is actually one of the decent ones who does good for the sake of doing good not for some perceived reward.
While I think Parrot is deluded as far as religion goes he is still a good guy.
He certainly doesn't want to force others to live by his beliefs.
The šŸ¦‡šŸ’© crazy Evangelical who used to post was called Ritchie, now he is a completely different kettle of fish.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 30 Apr 12:53

PARrot despite our butting of heads us sound.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Thu 30 Apr 17:19

šŸ˜Š


šŸ‘

(fruit, not apple, doesn't alter the gist)



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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sat 2 May 01:07

If you beleive in religion you're absolutely mental. Like, there's absolutely nothing anyone can say that paints it in any other light.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 2 May 05:12

What's worse, being mental in your eyes, or being totally intolerant?

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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sat 2 May 08:22

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dd23, Sat 2 May 05:12

What's worse, being mental in your eyes, or being totally intolerant?


The problem is a lot of religious people are both.
Not being prepared to tolerate their intolerance does not make you the intolerant one.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: petrie_pants  
Date:   Sat 2 May 08:30

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GG Riva, Mon 27 Apr 19:04

I don't really want to get drawn into a religious argument or about the existence of God, that should be a private, personal matter, imo, but I'd like to make a few observations;

Believing in a Creator and/ or an afterlife, helps to ease the fear of dying for some people.

The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.

Having a firm belief in a faith or religion is a source of comfort for many people.

I realise as I post this that some will ridicule this, but I worked alongside many devout and religious people, whom I was able to observe and listen to, so my observations have not been plucked out of thin air.


I get this 100 per cent. I've watched people die who have had a strong faith and belief in something else and can see what a comfort it is.
It's actually a comfort knowing they have it.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 2 May 08:31

But from grant's post you can't help but see his intolerance. Which ironically is something religious people get associated with, as confirmed by your post.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sat 2 May 10:02

Working with people who have had the most horrific and difficult lives imaginable has shown me how religious faith can have a genuinely positive impact on people's lives.

There's a lot of intermediate steps but essentially faith in an ineffable but loving higher power can help folk come to terms with things that have happened in their lives so they can focus on a more positive life path.

I don't seem to have it in me to believe in that way but most humans do have that and it's there for a reason - it's no coincidence that every single human society has developed something that we would recognise as religion.

The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel the warmth.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 2 May 11:32

I've met many a-holes in my life. Some are religious, some aren't. They only common factor is that they are an a-hole.

Having Faith doesn't make you a good or bad person.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sun 3 May 02:27

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jake89, Sat 2 May 11:32

I've met many a-holes in my life. Some are religious, some aren't. They only common factor is that they are an a-hole.

Having Faith doesn't make you a good or bad person.


"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."

Steven Weinberg
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 3 May 03:13





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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Sun 3 May 03:45

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dd23, Sat 2 May 08:31

But from grant's post you can't help but see his intolerance. Which ironically is something religious people get associated with, as confirmed by your post.


Feel free to beleive in the great big magic sky fairy, however if you mention you beleive in a great big sky fairy and some cave dwelling goat that presides in the earth's crust, expect some laughter.

Religion can be OK in certain circumstances. The world would be a far better place without it, if you can't act like a rational, fair and good human unless you beleive your actions are going to have a direct consequence on your afterlife then you're probably not a very good person.

I'm not intolerant of those who are religious, I just think they're utterly wrong on the subject of what happens after we die.
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sun 3 May 19:44

Each to their own and if it makes them happy then who should criticise?
I actually think this is hell we are in now....
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 3 May 20:54

Huh? Compare that post to your first several posts on this thread.

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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Mon 4 May 00:00

Ref: EEP
Sun 3 May 19:44

<<< I actually think this is hell we are in now.... >>>

You say 'we' not 'I', so I guess you're referring to lockdown and maybe the current government?

No, I think I'd suffer lockdown and this government rather than being a sex slave or starving to death, or suffering from Coronavirus. I think some folk might rightly say they're in hell but by comparison, my life is a picnic - food deliveries, garden, sunshine, ready access to dotnet, great memories of something I used tae like - fitba' they called it. Is it really so bad for you EEP?

Anyway, religion - whatever you and I say, it's gonna be around for a few more years. may as well chill and have a biscuit:




Can't sleep? Maybe the Yawning man can help:

The Yawning man song from Tom Thumb



(https://youtu.be/6omR281klfw?t=29)
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 Re: Where is god to help us?
Topic Originator: Grant  
Date:   Mon 4 May 17:21

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EEP, Sun 3 May 19:44

Each to their own and if it makes them happy then who should criticise?
I actually think this is hell we are in now....


There's a whole host things that make people happy that are quite rightfully criticised when they come to light.

Get religion in the bin.
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