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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sat 25 Apr 20:48
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 25 Apr 21:04
Edgy
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sat 25 Apr 21:08
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 25 Apr 21:49
That's almost exactly what an Italian priest said when an earthquake struck southern Italy on a Sunday evening in 1985 and flattened a church during Mass, killing many children who were in attendance.
"Where were you God, when we needed you?"
There's no doubt that the faith of those who have it, will be severely tested at times like these.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sat 25 Apr 23:11
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 26 Apr 16:59
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EEP, Sat 25 Apr 23:11
Oh come on GG there has been no religious leader come out and talk?
Actually, the Pope has asked his faithful to pray for all those affected by Covid-19 and their families all over the world. He usually addresses his audience from St Peter's every Sunday morning. Normally the square is packed with pilgrims, but now those who want to have to watch it on TV.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 26 Apr 17:48
Would he not be better getting the faithful to pray that God simply makes the virus stop infecting /killing people?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 26 Apr 18:53
When do the schools go back?
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sun 26 Apr 18:59
^^
lol
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:18
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 26 Apr 20:38
Ach EEP that is a bit extreme and unfair I am not religious but to say they are not normal people is wrong ...who are and what is normal ? ...certainly not you or me thats for sure
Religion is a great comfort for many and as long as they do not try and convince us then I do not see anything wrong with them being religious
Live and let live EEP
Take care Stay safe
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sun 26 Apr 21:10
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sun 26 Apr 21:46
Their good book tells us their god is a bit vengeful so I guess they just assume he has a backlog of smiting to get through 🤷🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: average white par
Date: Sun 26 Apr 21:52
Aye, Buspasspar, "When you say them?"
When you say them this offer religion? Where go to them religion offer? What them offer donkey what?
When them answer religion Doritos?
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sun 26 Apr 22:20
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Topic Originator: Stoo
Date: Mon 27 Apr 00:04
The whole religion/Gods existence argument is a moot point and I have a very pointless degree in Religious Studies.
People who believe in an omniscient, omnipotent God live in a different form of reality to me.
I learned very quickly that debating the subject is pointless, to the point that people who overtly criticise the religious are as daft as those who preach their religious beliefs. Organised religion and a belief in the supernatural, including God, is a nonsense, no doubt about it but the arguments against it are as over done as the arguments for it and so its a waste of everyones time.
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Topic Originator: shrek par
Date: Mon 27 Apr 01:47
They certainly did.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 27 Apr 19:04
I don't really want to get drawn into a religious argument or about the existence of God, that should be a private, personal matter, imo, but I'd like to make a few observations;
Believing in a Creator and/ or an afterlife, helps to ease the fear of dying for some people.
The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.
Having a firm belief in a faith or religion is a source of comfort for many people.
I realise as I post this that some will ridicule this, but I worked alongside many devout and religious people, whom I was able to observe and listen to, so my observations have not been plucked out of thin air.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Mon 27 Apr 19:07)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 27 Apr 19:31
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 27 Apr 19:04
The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.
Think the key word here is *some*. I know someone who goes to Church, is a member of all the Church groups and is married to a minister. They can be incredibly unkind and I know they nicked a bottle of hand sanitizer out the office! Not what you'd call very "Christian".
Can we sum this thread up my simply listening to XTC's classic Dear God?
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Mon 27 Apr 23:38
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 27 Apr 23:48
Parrot used to get into some debates about religion with another poster but I can't remember his name......maybe he goes by a different handle these days anyway.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Thu 30 Apr 11:40
Quote:
EEP, Mon 27 Apr 23:38
There is thousands that have died around the world and the religious state have been quiet? Where is the guy Parrot that used to spout about religion on this site?
Parrot is actually one of the decent ones who does good for the sake of doing good not for some perceived reward.
While I think Parrot is deluded as far as religion goes he is still a good guy.
He certainly doesn't want to force others to live by his beliefs.
The 🦇💩 crazy Evangelical who used to post was called Ritchie, now he is a completely different kettle of fish.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 30 Apr 12:53
PARrot despite our butting of heads us sound.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Thu 30 Apr 17:19
 😊
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(fruit, not apple, doesn't alter the gist)
Post Edited (Thu 30 Apr 17:31)
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sat 2 May 01:07
If you beleive in religion you're absolutely mental. Like, there's absolutely nothing anyone can say that paints it in any other light.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sat 2 May 05:12
What's worse, being mental in your eyes, or being totally intolerant?
Post Edited (Sat 02 May 07:10)
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sat 2 May 08:22
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dd23, Sat 2 May 05:12
What's worse, being mental in your eyes, or being totally intolerant?
The problem is a lot of religious people are both.
Not being prepared to tolerate their intolerance does not make you the intolerant one.
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Topic Originator: petrie_pants
Date: Sat 2 May 08:30
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 27 Apr 19:04
I don't really want to get drawn into a religious argument or about the existence of God, that should be a private, personal matter, imo, but I'd like to make a few observations;
Believing in a Creator and/ or an afterlife, helps to ease the fear of dying for some people.
The fear of going to hell/ missing out on heaven, helps keep some believers on the straight and narrow.
Having a firm belief in a faith or religion is a source of comfort for many people.
I realise as I post this that some will ridicule this, but I worked alongside many devout and religious people, whom I was able to observe and listen to, so my observations have not been plucked out of thin air.
I get this 100 per cent. I've watched people die who have had a strong faith and belief in something else and can see what a comfort it is.
It's actually a comfort knowing they have it.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sat 2 May 08:31
But from grant's post you can't help but see his intolerance. Which ironically is something religious people get associated with, as confirmed by your post.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sat 2 May 10:02
Working with people who have had the most horrific and difficult lives imaginable has shown me how religious faith can have a genuinely positive impact on people's lives.
There's a lot of intermediate steps but essentially faith in an ineffable but loving higher power can help folk come to terms with things that have happened in their lives so they can focus on a more positive life path.
I don't seem to have it in me to believe in that way but most humans do have that and it's there for a reason - it's no coincidence that every single human society has developed something that we would recognise as religion.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 2 May 11:32
I've met many a-holes in my life. Some are religious, some aren't. They only common factor is that they are an a-hole.
Having Faith doesn't make you a good or bad person.
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sun 3 May 02:27
Quote:
jake89, Sat 2 May 11:32
I've met many a-holes in my life. Some are religious, some aren't. They only common factor is that they are an a-hole.
Having Faith doesn't make you a good or bad person.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sun 3 May 03:13
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Sun 3 May 03:45
Quote:
dd23, Sat 2 May 08:31
But from grant's post you can't help but see his intolerance. Which ironically is something religious people get associated with, as confirmed by your post.
Feel free to beleive in the great big magic sky fairy, however if you mention you beleive in a great big sky fairy and some cave dwelling goat that presides in the earth's crust, expect some laughter.
Religion can be OK in certain circumstances. The world would be a far better place without it, if you can't act like a rational, fair and good human unless you beleive your actions are going to have a direct consequence on your afterlife then you're probably not a very good person.
I'm not intolerant of those who are religious, I just think they're utterly wrong on the subject of what happens after we die.
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Topic Originator: EEP
Date: Sun 3 May 19:44
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 3 May 20:54
Huh? Compare that post to your first several posts on this thread.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Mon 4 May 00:00
Ref: EEP
Sun 3 May 19:44
<<< I actually think this is hell we are in now.... >>>
You say 'we' not 'I', so I guess you're referring to lockdown and maybe the current government?
No, I think I'd suffer lockdown and this government rather than being a sex slave or starving to death, or suffering from Coronavirus. I think some folk might rightly say they're in hell but by comparison, my life is a picnic - food deliveries, garden, sunshine, ready access to dotnet, great memories of something I used tae like - fitba' they called it. Is it really so bad for you EEP?
Anyway, religion - whatever you and I say, it's gonna be around for a few more years. may as well chill and have a biscuit:
Can't sleep? Maybe the Yawning man can help:
The Yawning man song from Tom Thumb
(https://youtu.be/6omR281klfw?t=29)
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Topic Originator: Grant
Date: Mon 4 May 17:21
Quote:
EEP, Sun 3 May 19:44
Each to their own and if it makes them happy then who should criticise?
I actually think this is hell we are in now....
There's a whole host things that make people happy that are quite rightfully criticised when they come to light.
Get religion in the bin.
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