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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 1 Dec 13:48
Get any vouchers spent pronto.
Editing to add a wee note to say I wasn't intending to underplay the impact of those employed by Debenhams or any of the concessions within Debenhams.
Post Edited (Wed 02 Dec 20:18)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 1 Dec 15:05
Sad sad state of affairs jake89 they have been going for over 200 years
All these poor people out of a job just before Christmas... unless Ashley`s offer is accepted ...but I think I saw he had pulled out ?? ...obviously not enough profit in it for him :(
I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 1 Dec 15:05
Nice comment jake89 I assume you or none of your family will lose their job because of this through no fault of their own.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Tue 01 Dec 16:10)
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Tue 1 Dec 15:29
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 1 Dec 15:05
Sad sad state of affairs jake89 they have been going for over 200 years
All these poor people out of a job just before Christmas... unless Ashley`s offer is accepted ...but I think I saw he had pulled out ?? ...obviously not enough profit in it for him :(
JD were going to buy. However, as a lot of their money is from in store concessions like Burton's, Dorothy Perkins etc it just failed to make sense
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 1 Dec 16:06
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Topic Originator: da_no_1 like | nolike
Date: Tue 1 Dec 15:05
Nice comment. I assume you or none of your family will lose their job because of this through no fault of their own.
No we are all fine da..... me and the Wife well retired and Son and Daughter still in work up till now
I hope there is some rescue solution before they have to close
I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Tue 1 Dec 16:10
I hope Vue cinema buy it and turn it into a decent picture house.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 1 Dec 16:10
Quote:
Buspasspar, Tue 1 Dec 16:06
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Topic Originator: da_no_1 like | nolike
Date: Tue 1 Dec 15:05
Nice comment. I assume you or none of your family will lose their job because of this through no fault of their own.
No we are all fine da..... me and the Wife well retired and Son and Daughter still in work up till now
I hope there is some rescue solution before they have to close
My response was directed to Jake sorry
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 1 Dec 16:16
I did wonder da ....no harm done
I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 1 Dec 17:07
It`s a real shame and couldn`t have come at a worse time. 25,000 impacted when you also include Arcadia
Quite a lot of local people will be affected and will add even more worry to what has been a **** year.
Will the council do the right thing and encourage businesses fill up the empty slots in the Kingsgate and High Street by reducing the ridiculous rent and rates they charge? Will they remove parking charges?
If they did, then the people who will lose their jobs could find alternative work
Sadly, I won`t be holding my breath. Absolute shower of cretins
It's bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 1 Dec 18:14
Wasn't intending to upset you there, da. Obviously awful for their staff. Looks like Arcadia going the same way. Mostly impacting on women in terms of employment so particularly bad for them.
I think Ashley pulled out ages ago. It was JD Sports who were interested but suspect Arcadia looking like they'll fail will impact on the decision given Arcadia have concessions in Debenhams.
I'd agree with the suggestion of a cinema. Big name retail is dying out as you can order it online. You can't order the cinema experience online unless you're particularly minted. Cinema with more restaurants around it.
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Tue 1 Dec 18:42
Debenhams had a big investment in the Actual Kingsgate when built, hence the big sign on the Carnegie Drive side. Wonder what the consequences this will have with the whole centre?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 1 Dec 18:54
I don't think they invested. I think they were used to draw people in. Fairly sure the guys who built the extension went bust (was a Northern Irish company) and it's now owned by a private equity firm.
This will impact towns and cities across the UK and I'd expect there'll be some people looking to fill the gap.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 1 Dec 19:17
Analysis from Aunty to where it all went wrong :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55144922
I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 9 Dec 14:07
Ashley may buy it. Not someone I think will be good for the business but it sounds like it would protect jobs for 12 months potentially.
I didn't realise all their units are rented. Many people in Dunfermline seemed to think the unit in the Kingsgate was owned by them.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 9 Dec 16:29
Was it not the Miners Pension Fund that financed it, later sold on to one of David Murray's companies?
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 9 Dec 17:33
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 9 Dec 16:29
Was it not the Miners Pension Fund that financed it, later sold on to one of David Murray's companies?
I cant figure out what you are talking about.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 9 Dec 19:33
I think LA means the Kingsgate. Murray owned it for a bit and may have been the one who got the floors redone prior to it being sold. It was an Irish company that owned it when the extension was done. The building work was done by one of their sister companies. I think they went bust.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 9 Dec 20:22
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 9 Dec 16:29
Was it not the Miners Pension Fund that financed it, later sold on to one of David Murray's companies?
Sorry, should have said the Kingsgate.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 9 Dec 20:48
I hope Debenhams remains open albeit it was only ever busy in the beginning. Too big a store for the town imo, although I like their choice of departments.
It would make an excellent cinema GZ.
buffysbuns.wordpress.com
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 9 Dec 22:50
I don't think it's too big a store for Dunfermline but too big a store in general. Dunfermline was always busier than the likes of the Ocean Terminal one. Debenhams was/is effectively its own shopping centre without walls.
I too would like a cinema but imagine the development costs would be too much. If Debenhams doesn't work out I fully expect a TK Maxx. Their lease in the Mercat must be up now unless they renewed it.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 10 Dec 12:27
Debenhams is arguably the biggest operator in the Thistle Centre, Stirling - probably their largest in Scotland after Glasgow and Edinburgh, maybe just Glasgow ?
It`ll be a disaster across all our "High Streets" if it does bust.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 10 Dec 12:38
They have a great store at Ocean Terminal vee its on 4 floors If I remember
Also the Thistle centre is a nice store
I can remember when the Thistle centre was built mid 70`s and it still looks good today
I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 10 Dec 12:41
It's a domino effect. Take a look at the likes of Princes Street. It's lost Fraser's and BHS already. It may now lose a large Debenhams and large Arcadia store. I think the old BHS is being replaced by a hotel and restaurant.
As soon as M&S food opens at Halbeath we can kiss goodbye to the town centre shop as people aren't interested in their clothes. If M&S were to buy out Arcadia then that may change. It's a shame as M&S is generally good quality. What we could end up with is the tat clothes shops like Primark and New Look.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 10 Dec 22:48
"They have a great store at Ocean Terminal vee its on 4 floors If I remember"
Didn`t know that- never been there.
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Topic Originator: Frank Butchers LoveHandles
Date: Sun 13 Dec 22:22
Quote:
jake89, Thu 10 Dec 12:41
It's a domino effect. Take a look at the likes of Princes Street. It's lost Fraser's and BHS already. It may now lose a large Debenhams and large Arcadia store. I think the old BHS is being replaced by a hotel and restaurant.
As soon as M&S food opens at Halbeath we can kiss goodbye to the town centre shop as people aren't interested in their clothes. If M&S were to buy out Arcadia then that may change. It's a shame as M&S is generally good quality. What we could end up with is the tat clothes shops like Primark and New Look.
Not only that but alot of the shops on Princes Street are moving into the new St James centre.
Awight Pat!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 14 Dec 01:23
At least 5 stores on Princes Street listed for the new St James - Next, Boots, Zara, JD and one other I forget. Next were previously in the St James so may keep two open. I'm sure Boots own the horrid building they have on Princes Street so unlikely to move.
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