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 Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 17:45

Fill yer boots... Just respect each other please.


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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 20:24

Positive case at a High school in fife today.
All pupils were told to take a test today and submit results.
I will leave it there but I’m fuming about pupils not taking tests and rejecting home testing because of blah blah but one pupil openly been seeing relatives and family in Edinburgh and folk there from England....

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 20:43

EEP, the issue is that cases in schools are incredibly low, hospitalisations even lower and "only" two deaths. The kids think they're therefore invincible and don't consider the spread to more vulnerable people.

For clarity though, transmission in school is tiny. The bigger issue is outside school in the community.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 21:11

Well Jake all pupils have had to take their home test today.
There is a certain child who will not take a test/test at home who has been meeting with other family members from all over uk who have travelled to meet up🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 21:45

Sounds like a fud. Have they offered a reason for not testing? My friend's daughter is seemingly testing twice a week and it sounds like the almost instant tests they're doing.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Fri 26 Feb 22:39

It could be a religion point of view that the certain person is not receiving a vaccine or doing the tests at school...

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 09:09

Ahh religion, how I often wish no such thing existed. It seems to get twisted to suit anyone's agenda nowadays
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 10:04

What religion prevents you from putting a bit of plastic up your nose? Where is that covered?
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 13:50

Jehovah witnesses could be opposed to vaccine due to possible use if blood plasma in research.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 14:45

This is about a kid refusing to test rather than refusing to be vaccinated.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 18:34

That’s right Jake and said pupil refused to take the weekly tests home.... admits being in another city staying over at friends/family house last weekend and visitors from different areas to the house that weekend.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 19:19

There seems to be an awful lot of info out there about said pupil.

Has it been verified or is it heresay?

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 21:06

Did you read the post?? 1 pupil has come back positive🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Sat 27 Feb 21:40

Is it said pupil?

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Mon 1 Mar 14:03

Vaccines are providing well over 80percent results.

Brazilian variant might shave a wee bit off.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: davepars  
Date:   Mon 1 Mar 19:32

Rasta, you`re gagging to be locked back down so you can play the "I told you so" card.

Unfortunately for your forum agenda, we will all be back to close to normal this year.....thanks to the vaccine you so dearly wish to avoid.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Mon 1 Mar 20:51

My daughter who is under 18 has to go for the vaccine as she has a heart murmur on Saturday.... glad to see their covering young folk that could be in danger.... only problem it’s in Templehall the Lino Lickers but hey ho.... 😅😅

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: EastEndBoy  
Date:   Mon 1 Mar 22:44

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Rastapari, Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..


If When it doesn't have an effect and this year isn't a write off, will you give it rest?

...ken?

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 11:45

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davepars, Mon 1 Mar 19:32

Rasta, you`re gagging to be locked back down so you can play the "I told you so" card.

Unfortunately for your forum agenda, we will all be back to close to normal this year.....thanks to the vaccine you so dearly wish to avoid.


Oh really, be quiet, try thinking, I don't agree with any of it, i'm utterly appalled at the SNP continuing to ignore everything but covid.
The tiers are staying, like k said, they'll keep dangling the carrot, the idiots will still think they're going to get a bite.
You think we'll get normal back?
Variants variants variants, no chance.
As for that vaccine there are some horrendous side effects being felt by healthy people, may be rare but when higher than my chances of getting ir being harmed by covid, not taking the risk, especially when they keep telling me nothing changes if I take the vaccine, their repeated words, not mine.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 11:46

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EastEndBoy, Mon 1 Mar 22:44

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Rastapari, Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..


If When it doesn't have an effect and this year isn't a write off, will you give it rest?


I won't have to.
We have to get below 20 cases in 10000 to get a relatively open tier, good luck with that.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 12:42

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Rastapari, Tue 02 Mar 11:46

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EastEndBoy, Mon 1 Mar 22:44

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Rastapari, Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..


If When it doesn't have an effect and this year isn't a write off, will you give it rest?


I won't have to.
We have to get below 20 cases in 10000 to get a relatively open tier, good luck with that.


I was reading about that this morning. The tiers will be much tighter this time around. Last year 150 cases per 100,000 would see you in tier 2. It will now have to be less than 50 cases per 100,000 to see you drop to tier 2. The tiers should be decided on by hospital admissions and not cases per 100,000 IMO. The whole point of this was to ease the stress on the NHS. If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed in the next month or so, why should tiers be decided on by cases rather than hospital admissions?
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 14:12

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allparone, Tue 2 Mar 12:42

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Rastapari, Tue 02 Mar 11:46

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EastEndBoy, Mon 1 Mar 22:44

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Rastapari, Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..


If When it doesn't have an effect and this year isn't a write off, will you give it rest?


I won't have to.
We have to get below 20 cases in 10000 to get a relatively open tier, good luck with that.


I was reading about that this morning. The tiers will be much tighter this time around. Last year 150 cases per 100,000 would see you in tier 2. It will now have to be less than 50 cases per 100,000 to see you drop to tier 2. The tiers should be decided on by hospital admissions and not cases per 100,000 IMO. The whole point of this was to ease the stress on the NHS. If the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed in the next month or so, why should tiers be decided on by cases rather than hospital admissions?


Because getting us out of lockdown is not even a desire for those in charge.
I see plenty laughing, I was told to get my tin foil hat when I mentioned vaccine passports and no jab no job, now all I hear is justification, none the less I was right right we'd still be locked dow this year too....but again advised on tin head attire.
We'll see....too many in power stealing too much money and enjoying the trip, that's how our corrupt little island works.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 15:57

"The first minister begins by saying she hopes to be able to confirm changes to the strategic framework for leaving lockdown next week.
Ms Sturgeon hopes to be able to confirm some changes to the level four restrictions.
"We will be considering if it might be possible to accelerate the exit from lockdown in any way."

Sounds like restrictions might be easing a bit quicker than first expected.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 16:23

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da_no_1, Tue 2 Mar 15:57

"The first minister begins by saying she hopes to be able to confirm changes to the strategic framework for leaving lockdown next week.
Ms Sturgeon hopes to be able to confirm some changes to the level four restrictions.
"We will be considering if it might be possible to accelerate the exit from lockdown in any way."

Sounds like restrictions might be easing a bit quicker than first expected.


Nice words, we can only hope.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 16:27

Covid-19 vaccines may stop people passing on the virus “almost completely”, the head of immunisation at Public Health England has revealed

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-results-public-health-england-b921793.html


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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 16:39

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Rastapari, Tue 2 Mar 11:46

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EastEndBoy, Mon 1 Mar 22:44

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Rastapari, Mon 1 Mar 13:27

Oooh a Brazilian variant, how long before the next opening of life is postponed and this year's a write off?
That carrot and stick doing a power of work..


If When it doesn't have an effect and this year isn't a write off, will you give it rest?


I won't have to.
We have to get below 20 cases in 10000 to get a relatively open tier, good luck with that.


Aberdeen currently on the threshold of 20. Last 7 days just over 25. Aberdeenshire is the same. So all going well up here. Most Scottish Islands currently at 0 cases. Glasgow , Edinburgh and Stirling not doing so well. Some still in the 100's.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 16:48

Movie, I`m assuming that hospital admissions are a lag indicator.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 17:15

discussion on return to tiers is based on following WHO guidance from November which doesnt account for best part of 40% of the adult population either being vaccinated or built up antibodies from previously contracting the virus. Along with increase in testing, if you test most people you will find more cases especially asymptomatic. fife 60 cases per 100,000 at the moment so would go into tier 3.

Over the entire country there are 784 people in hospital with 71 in ICU. That is 3/4 of the capacity of louisa Jordan which in simplistic view allows every other hospital to return to "normal". We are no longer in a position where this is "overwhelming" our medical resources.

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland data is there to show how deadly this is. Keep in mind the abhorrent release of patients into care homes without testing for covid accounting for c.2500 deaths and that all over 70s vaccinated as well as majority of over 60s are vaccinated.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 17:15

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The One Who Knocks, Tue 2 Mar 16:48

Movie, I`m assuming that hospital admissions are a lag indicator.


I really don't know but in Aberdeen the number per 100000 is currently sitting at 25. The test positive rate is under 2% currently. Aberdeenshire is marginally better with test positive rate at 1.2% and 22 per 100000.

ARI is currently working under capacity according to my cancer consultant. Intensive care beds are under 50% including covid patients.

I would expect both to be put in level 2 at worst.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: davepars  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 18:06

More people vaccinated = less symptomatic disease = less people going for tests = less people testing positive = less positive cases = lower tiers.

It will be out there, but it will not be making as many people ill and will not be hospitalising and killing as many.

We should reach the threshold pretty easily.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 2 Mar 23:47

these were figures for each local area the bbc published today



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Thu 4 Mar 14:09

The view of an Edinburgh doctor. This is really worth listening to...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2021/mar/01/pure-liquid-hope-what-the-vaccine-means-to-me-as-a-gp-podcast

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Parfect68  
Date:   Thu 4 Mar 16:29

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OzPar, Thu 4 Mar 14:09

The view of an Edinburgh doctor. This is really worth listening to...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2021/mar/01/pure-liquid-hope-what-the-vaccine-means-to-me-as-a-gp-podcast


Thanks for sharing Oz, an excellent read. The GP in question is a local lad, grew up in the same village as me and is a published author. Worth a look if you're interested.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 13:40

The track and trace spreadsheet now costing 37 billion.
Still doesn't work properly, biionaires and lowly millionaires being created by this theft and you wonder why i don't trust them.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 5 Mar 16:09

If anyone wonders why it's still spreading - just spotted a dozen lads headed up to Calais woods. No social distancing, no masks and can guarantee will be passing a bottle around.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 6 Mar 23:58

"Exit Permit" for travel.
And here we are....

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 10:43

Yep you can only travel internationally if you have a valid reason because foreign holidays are still illegal. You now have to complete a `declaration to leave` detailing why you need to travel.
I suspect in a few months many nations will require a traveller to be vaccinated before they allow entry.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 10:44

So the older people we've spent a year protecting can go on a jolly to Cyprus whilst we're stuck here in lockdown. Beggars belief.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 12:34

No because that isn`t allowed Jake. Until foreign holidays are allowed even the vaccinated can`t go abroad without good reason. I was talking more long term.

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Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 12:36

But it looks like those who have had two doses WILL be permitted to travel.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 13:36

Any chance of linking to that Jake. I had read earlier of the deceleration of leaving forms but nothing of an easing of foreign travel restrictions yet for the vaccinated.

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Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 14:37

Cyprus have said that they will accept tourists who have had the vaccination from early May however it means nothing until the UK government allow it.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 18:39

Yep, there's a fair few countries but depends on what the UK says. Sticks in the craw a bit if all those shielding can swan off whilst we're sat here twiddling our thumbs despite a year of lockdown!
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sun 7 Mar 21:19

All adults will be offered the vaccine by summer, you’re hardly getting put out that much since it will be nearly summer before foreign travel is even permitted


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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Mon 8 Mar 09:01

Don’t worry jake, if your under 40 you’ve a good chance of getting the janssen single doser which is due to come online in a few weeks which means by June if not earlier you’ll be fully covered to travel this summer.

Now openly seeing large groups of 12-16 year olds out an about, guessing this is keeping the number of cases relatively high compared to previous lockdowns.

Expect a spike in Glasgow after yesterday. Hopefully go back to regional lockdowns soon and they will have knackered themselves but you know they will travel if there more happening somewhere else.

Just sitting here drenched in my own negativity!
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 17:16

90 million to a ppe company registered in a Chinese Hotel room....
But we trust this lot with our health.
It's not about a virus, it's a heist.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 17:34

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Rastapari, Wed 10 Mar 17:16

90 million to a ppe company registered in a Chinese Hotel room....
But we trust this lot with our health.
It's not about a virus, it's a heist.


No it is about a virus. The "heist" was the opportunity it provided. This is always the way though. Certain people always get rich or richer in times of upheaval, like pandemics, wars etc.
I'm amazed you appear to be somewhat surprised by this.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 17:47

From Aunty :-

Boris Johnson has defended the NHS Test and Trace programme after a scathing report from a committee of MPs.

The Public Accounts Committee said the scheme had failed to prevent lockdowns and there was "no clear evidence" that it had cut coronavirus infections.

And it said the cost - £37bn set aside over two years - was "staggering".
But the prime minister said it was thanks to NHS Test and Trace that schools and the economy can reopen and people can "restart their lives".

During Prime Minister`s Questions on Wednesday, Mr Johnson was asked why so much money had been spent on the system when the government said a 1% pay rise for NHS staff was all that it could afford.

"It is thanks to NHS Test and Trace that we`re able to send kids back to school and begin cautiously and irreversibly to reopen our economy and restart our lives," he said.

He also defended the 1% pay rise, saying NHS workers were at least getting an increase, unlike other public sector workers.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: auldpar  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 18:27

In March 2020 Boris Johnson said we have 'fantastic testing facilities'. Today Matt Hancock said 'we had to start building from nothing a year ago'. One of them (or both) is lying.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Wed 10 Mar 19:04

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auldpar, Wed 10 Mar 18:27

In March 2020 Boris Johnson said we have 'fantastic testing facilities'. Today Matt Hancock said 'we had to start building from nothing a year ago'. One of them (or both) is lying.


Both. It's in the genes
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 09:09

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moviescot, Wed 10 Mar 17:34

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Rastapari, Wed 10 Mar 17:16

90 million to a ppe company registered in a Chinese Hotel room....
But we trust this lot with our health.
It's not about a virus, it's a heist.


No it is a virus. The "heist" was the opportunity it provided. This is always the way though. Certain people always get rich or richer in times of upheaval, like pandemics, wars etc.
I'm amazed you appear to be somewhat surprised by this.


You misquote me, I said "about a virus" please stop ****ing lazily trying to post me as a virus denier.
And you think I'm surprised?
Sit doon.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 09:10

It's not NHS test and trace, it's run by SERCO!
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 12:14

Track and trace in England isn't the same as in Scotland. In Scotland it's run by NHS boards using a solution provided by PHS. So if you're in Fife it'll be someone from NHS Fife who will likely call you if you test positive.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 16:59

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Rastapari, Thu 11 Mar 09:09

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moviescot, Wed 10 Mar 17:34

Quote:

Rastapari, Wed 10 Mar 17:16

90 million to a ppe company registered in a Chinese Hotel room....
But we trust this lot with our health.
It's not about a virus, it's a heist.


No it is a virus. The "heist" was the opportunity it provided. This is always the way though. Certain people always get rich or richer in times of upheaval, like pandemics, wars etc.
I'm amazed you appear to be somewhat surprised by this.


You misquote me, I said "about a virus" please stop ****ing lazily trying to post me as a virus denier.
And you think I'm surprised?
Sit doon.


Calm down. That was not my intention. I have amended my original post which had one word missing.

Jeez. Just ask you know rather than jumping in with both feet. Posting from phones has its problems.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 17:53

mobile phones and big thick fingers trying to text ...Pepnems oops ptronems ach weel :)

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 6)...as requested
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Thu 11 Mar 19:07

One of the unavoidable deficits of forums is that only 20% or so if communication is the actual words.
Body language tone and inflection are lost in the other.

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