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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 14 Jan 22:24
Just noticed that the BBC are showing the Sydney Tennis Classic final tomorrow between Andy Murray and Aslan Karatsev. It will be available on BBC iPlayer, Red Button and the BBC Sport website and app from 8.00 am.
Post Edited (Tue 18 Jan 13:18)
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Topic Originator: Skid Chicane
Date: Sat 15 Jan 08:49
BBC red button (freeview channel 601) or iplayer. Just getting the holding page with some funk music at the moment.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Jan 08:54
Men`s final was delayed until the women`s final was over; should be on soon.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Jan 09:39
It`s also on 422 Premier Sports on Sky
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Jan 10:50
Karatsev too good; I must admit I`d never seen him before but he was very impressive.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 15 Jan 13:34
He had a breakthrough year in 2021. Reached the Australian Open semi-final and must have jumped 100+ places in the rankings.
Probably better for Murray to lose in 2 rather than win another marathon session in 3.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jan 13:18
What a warrior!
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 18 Jan 18:36
Just an absolute inspiration and proper role model.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jan 18:40
If only I were a few years younger! I`m a roll model rather than a role model.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 18 Jan 19:05
Thought he was going to lose after being pegged back in the last set?
Never gives in, though.
What about the moronic element loudly booing during his post match interview?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 18 Jan 23:30
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 18 Jan 19:05
Thought he was going to lose after being pegged back in the last set?
Never gives in, though.
What about the moronic element loudly booing during his post match interview?
Was it not the God awful Ronaldo thing that seems to be leaking into other sports. They were at it during the Kyrgios match as well.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Wed 19 Jan 09:01
Yeah seeing it more and more, especially in sports where you may support someone but it’s not historically tribal (like football). For example:
Formula 1 seems to have attracted an element that boo other drivers (stoked up by max v lewis)
Darts - any non English player was getting boos when going for doubles and cheers when they missed if playing anyone English - again this putting folk off like that all the time is new
Tennis as mentioned
I can understand football support rivalry (on the field) to an extent, but I never get the mentality of supporting someone in individual sports just, and only because they were born within the same political boundary as you
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 19 Jan 10:15
It appears the `boos` were in fact `siuuus`, copying Ronaldo`s celebrations after scoring a goal! I must admit I was totally unaware of him doing that.
Surely fans supporting someone from the same country, or `born within the same political boundary`, is not surprising, especially if it`s a small country where people share the same culture and will have had a lot of common experiences growing up? In that situation I think fans see the sports person as representing them, just as they would in a national team sport. It seems a perfectly natural thing to do to me.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 20 Jan 07:46
Fair point, I suppose It’s down to perception…
for example I don’t see Lewis Hamilton, Tyson Fury, Gerwyn Price, Peter Wright, Andy Murray etc as somehow representing me on the world stage - they’re representing and competing themselves as individuals
(I’m picking folk I’ve heard being boo’d recently)
…and even if I liked them as individual sportsmen (which I do for various reasons) I certainly wouldn’t by default want them to beat everyone else simply because they have the same flag (putting indy views aside for one minute)
I think it’s the tribal attitude I’m not really getting to the same extent as in things like football)… in fact, as a big F1 fan, to use the max v Lewis scenario - it actually felt like a bunch of football fans got in on the rivalry and treated it like they were on the terraces and not in a sport where people primarily want to see a good race - kinda regardless of who wins
Post Edited (Thu 20 Jan 07:47)
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 20 Jan 09:34
Eliminated in straight sets
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jan 10:04
I didn`t see any of today`s match but maybe the exertions of the last couple of weeks took their toll. It just shows the strength-in-depth of professional tennis.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 20 Jan 10:28
Absolutely, wee eck. Daniel ranked 120 and I`d never heard of him, but a very good player
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 20 Jan 11:10
I wouldn`t say that is an indicator of how strong men`s tennis is. Andy Murray is ranked 113 in the world now and his days of going deep into `slams is long gone. That`s not a criticism its just the reality of age and injuries taking its toll.
In my opinion the fact that for the past fifteen years three players have dominated the game isn`t a sign of strength in the sport but a sign of weakness. Djokovic, Federer and Nadal should have been pushed out of the equation long ago had the next generation been up to the task.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 20 Jan 11:26
Prior to his injury Murray thrashed Daniel in the Davis Cup 6-1, 6-3, 6-1 in less than 90 minutes. I hope his expectations aren`t too high now, he enjoys his tennis and isn`t causing any long term damage.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jan 11:39
You can have strength-in-depth without every player being a potential Grand Slam winner. It`s always amusing seeing fans passing judgement on players who, as evidenced by their record of achievement over a long period of time, have a completely different mindset from the average punter. No one will know better than Andy Murray what is a realistic target in his last few years competing at the top level.
I feel for Emma Raducanu who will soon take over the mantle of expectation the British media and fans love to put on promising sports people. Andy Murray had the resilience and character to deal with it; I hope she does too.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 20 Jan 11:44
Think she just got knocked out?
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 20 Jan 11:45
Murray quoted as saying he won`t be back to Australian Open next year if he has many more performances like that-I could see this being his last year sadly.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jan 14:09
I didn`t see that but I saw a quote that he felt OK physically before today`s match so it doesn`t seem defeat can be put down to tiredness.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 20 Jan 15:12
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 20 Jan 11:45
Murray quoted as saying he won`t be back to Australian Open next year if he has many more performances like that-I could see this being his last year sadly.
Yeah sadly said this morning that I suspect this may be his last season, been great to watch him though and he’s earned his retirement should he make that decision
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 20 Jan 18:04
The body has to give sometime and several 3+ hours court battles must take its toll over the years .. Its not like a team game where you can maybe hide for a wee bit to try and recover .. Should he decide to retire I wish him all the best and thank him for providing us with great pride while watching him
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 20 Jan 18:06
The fact that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have 60 grand slams between them isn`t a damning indictment of any batch of `new` players.
It is because they`re the 3 best players of all time, they`ve all been on the scene at roughly the same time and, until recently, have managed to keep free from injury for their entire careers.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 20 Jan 19:03
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 20 Jan 18:06
The fact that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have 60 grand slams between them isn`t a damning indictment of any batch of `new` players.
It is because they`re the 3 best players of all time, they`ve all been on the scene at roughly the same time and, until recently, have managed to keep free from injury for their entire careers.
Dunno, Djokovic must be riddled with injuries since he has always gone down with one when he is losing or in trouble in a match 🤔
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 19 Jan 17:41
I thought I`d resurrect this thread from a year ago after Andy`s two unbelievable wins in this year`s Australian Open. It`s absolute madness that players are asked to play until 4 am and the winner is expected to play again in less than 48 hours. Goodness knows what condition Andy will be in on Saturday.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Thu 19 Jan 18:45
An incredible performance especially given his exertions on Tuesday and to come back from two sets down speaks so much about his mental strength. He well have the greatest "will to win " , guts and determination of any sporstman.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 19 Jan 19:23
Just said to Mrs buspass how many athletes could perform for 5 hours and 45 minutes .. a superb effort and great mental strength ..
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 19 Jan 20:01
Absolute machine. Well done Sir Andy 👏👏
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 19 Jan 23:07
Just watched his game on you tube. Incredible comeback. Some of his returns in one particular game were almost unbelievable.
Crazy he is playing again so soon after that marathon.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 21 Jan 10:36
Quote:
desparado, Thu 19 Jan 23:07
Just watched his game on you tube. Incredible comeback. Some of his returns in one particular game were almost unbelievable.
Crazy he is playing again so soon after that marathon.
And yet we think 2 games a week of football is too much.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 21 Jan 12:03
Another phenomenal effort this morning but Andy bows out. Fantastic achievement to even get this far at 35 after the operations he`s had 👏👏👏
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Jan 13:03
In a way he was the victim of his own reputation. The organisers obviously want to feature a big name in the last match of the day but, if it`s a long one, the winner is inevitably scheduled for a late start in the next round to help his recovery. When they`re finishing at 4 am though it must mess with sleep patterns and the biological clock.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 24 Feb 17:43
Now he`s in the final of the Qatar Open. As usual Andy did it the hard way, winning the first set 6-0, losing the second then winning the third set on a tie break after saving five match points.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 21:56
Regardless of the outcome here its good to see him playing and moving this well.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:08
A break up in the third against Tsitsipas. One set all.
Going to be a long night
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:14
I think they can only play until 11 tonight?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:15
So they don’t disturb the residents ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:17
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 6 Jul 22:15
So they don’t disturb the residents ?
I believe so.Doesn`t seem to happen at the other Slams but they were talking about the match being finished with the roof open tomorrow.
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jul 22:17)
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:38
Sure the time limit is to do with the Tube running schedule.
Think it`s been mentioned in the past when the matches have run late.
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:43
Quote:
SusieQ, Thu 6 Jul 22:38
Sure the time limit is to do with the Tube running schedule.
Think it`s been mentioned in the past when the matches have run late.
It was part of the planning permission when the roof went on.It was to protect the residents from disturbances.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 22:47
Hoping that late fall wasn`t too bad there.🤞
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Jul 23:10
Tsitsipas was playing to an incredibly high standard in the first two sets but Andy just hung on until he eventually took the initiative. He never knows when he`s beaten.
Tsitsipas has a doubles match scheduled for tomorrow which may affect the timing of the resumption of the singles match.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 6 Jul 23:14
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 6 Jul 23:10
Tsitsipas was playing to an incredibly high standard in the first two sets but Andy just hung on until he eventually took the initiative. He never knows when he`s beaten.
Tsitsipas has a doubles match scheduled for tomorrow which may affect the timing of the resumption of the singles match.
His doubles partner and girlfriend also has a singles match scheduled for tomorrow unless it's the men's doubles that he is playing with his brother?
ETA The mixed doubles is on Saturday.Busy schedule for him.
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jul 23:19)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Jul 23:33
Yeah, he`s scheduled to play men`s doubles with his brother tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 7 Jul 10:07
Murray v Tsitsipas will resume after Alcaraz v Muller which starts at 1.30.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 7 Jul 10:20
Hope that he has overcome his injury from last night, looked a painful one in the groin area!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 7 Jul 12:50
He needed Buffy’s magic sponge, Lochgelly. Word has got around.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 7 Jul 14:08
Quote:
buffy, Fri 7 Jul 12:50
He needed Buffy’s magic sponge, Lochgelly. Word has got around.
How many holding you back?😲🤣👍😎🙈
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 7 Jul 15:17
😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 7 Jul 18:20
Andy couldn`t get his first serve working today. Last night`s suspension worked in Tsitsipas`s favour I think.
Norrie out too; all rests on Broady.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 7 Jul 19:43
Murray would almost certainly have gone on to win last night.
Don’t think any other grand slam is subjected to curfews ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Fri 7 Jul 19:46
Gutted he missed that challenge - he could have potentially been serving for the match.
Playing No 5 seed was always going to be a tough ask tho - hopefully not the last we see of Andy at Wimbledon 😪🥎
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: dover par
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:09
Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:16
What does `finished` mean?
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:49
Quote:
dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09
Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.
Top 40 in the world and won 2 tournaments in the last month.He said he was the fittest he`s been since 2016 and he looked it too.Tsitsipas is number 5 in the world so there was no disgrace in losing a tight match that only had 2 breaks of serve in 5 sets.Nobody would begrudge him if he wants to retire but if he wants it I see no reason why he couldn`t come back as a seed next year.
It sounded like Claire Balding wanted to retire him too, he`s earned the right to go out when he wants to.He is a week older than Djokovic.
Post Edited (Sat 08 Jul 10:52)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:53
Quote:
dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09
Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.
He`s not "finished"
If he chooses to pack it in, he`ll do so in the knowledge that he`s doing it for the very best personal reasons, not because someone on .net says so.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:53
Quote:
parathletic, Sat 8 Jul 10:49
Quote:
dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09
Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.
Top 40 in the world and won 2 tournaments in the last month.He said he was the fittest he`s been since 2016 and he looked it too.Tsitsipas is number 5 in the world so there was no disgrace in losing a tight match that only had 2 breaks of serve in 5 sets.Nobody would begrudge him if he wants to retire but if he wants it I see no reason why he couldn`t come back as a seed next year.
It sounded like Claire Balding wanted to retire him too, he`s earned the right to go out when he wants to.He is a week older than Djokovic.
Great post
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 8 Jul 10:56
Elite athletes have a totally different mentality from lesser mortals. That`s a big part of what sets them apart. It`s amusing hearing others telling him when he should retire.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 8 Jul 12:45
Why should he retire if he doesn`t want to?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 8 Jul 15:05
I think it`s a tremendous indicator of his character that he is willing to carry on competing even though it`s very unlikely he will ever go deep into a Slam again. When he was rising to the top of the game there would have been many a hardened warrior veteran that would have been dispatched by a fitter, better, Murray. Now it`s went full circle, all glory is fleeting and he is going to pay his dues back to the game. Kind of inspiring really.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 8 Jul 17:42
I don`t think us lesser mortals will ever fully understand the dedication .. practice ..wear and tear on the body .. mental strength .. injury and pain barrier that these top tennis players go through .. or indeed any top athlete .. Andy always seemed to make it difficult .. No doubting his ability or mental approach but over the years he has had some very long hard slogs and injury`s .. Credit to him .. I hope he keeps going .. his body will tell him
Post Edited (Sat 08 Jul 17:48)
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 8 Jul 17:46
Tsitsipas just went through in straight sets today and plays Christopher Eubanks for a place in the quarters.What might have been.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 8 Jul 21:31
Maybe Murray will keep playing because he likes playing tennis. He’s fortunate to have made a fortune doing something he loves but it remains a game which is enjoyable for people who are passionate about it so why retire?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 10 Jul 05:42
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 8 Jul 17:42
I don`t think us lesser mortals will ever fully understand the dedication .. practice ..wear and tear on the body .. mental strength .. injury and pain barrier that these top tennis players go through .. or indeed any top athlete .. Andy always seemed to make it difficult .. No doubting his ability or mental approach but over the years he has had some very long hard slogs and injury`s .. Credit to him .. I hope he keeps going .. his body will tell him
Great post, BPP, but I can`t agree with your last sentence. If he keeps going, he could end up almost a cripple. He`s had an excellent career, has nothing to prove to anyone and doesn`t need the money. For these reasons, I think he should retire from top level tennis. He could still have the odd knockabout if he gets withdrawal symptoms. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Jul 08:26
I think it`s the competition against top-level opponents that he craves so a knock-about with friends or family isn`t going to satisfy that but as he gets older the harder it will be to emulate the standards of the best players. I hope he has been taking medical advice on the long-term effects of continuing to play at the highest level.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 10 Jul 09:52
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 10 Jul 08:26
I think it`s the competition against top-level opponents that he craves so a knock-about with friends or family isn`t going to satisfy that but as he gets older the harder it will be to emulate the standards of the best players. I hope he has been taking medical advice on the long-term effects of continuing to play at the highest level.
I get that, wee eck, but he needs to be sensible about it. If he doesn`t seek medical advice, in case he hears something he doesn`t want to hear, that would be foolish in the extreme.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 28 Jul 20:49
Who thought we`d be re-opening this thread a year after the last post? Dan Evans is an excellent partner for Andy as he has that same never-say-die attitude and has had to overcome a few setbacks in his career. The two tie-breaks tonight were unbelievable.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 29 Jul 11:37
Thoroughly enjoyed the game last night. Thought it was done and dusted, then they did a Lazarus.
Well done!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jul 21:37
Another Houdini-like escape by Evans and Murray tonight!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 1 Aug 19:34
I think it will end tonight. ? On court now
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 1 Aug 20:41
That’s it.
What a career 👏👏👏
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Aug 20:46
Watching tennis will never be the same again, at least for us Scots.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Aug 20:49
We can still follow Duncan Scott though! About to go in 200m individual medley semi-final.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 2 Aug 01:55
Absolute Chad. Best Scottish sportsman in decades?
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Fri 2 Aug 14:30
‘Never even liked tennis anyway’
LoL - top man
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 2 Aug 21:39
Feel lucky to have been able to watch Andy in his prime over the last 20 years. Some of my favourite sporting moments in my lifetime have been with this guy. He`s an absolute legend. Enjoy your retirement Sir Andy!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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