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 Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Tue 21 May 15:25

51% of those who participated in the Scottish census say they do not follow any religion. That’s up 14% since the last one.

The COE must really be struggling as nobody identifies as English in the ethnicity section..oh wait, that wasn’t an option!

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 21 May 16:09

"White - Other British" includes England.
CofE would be the Episcopal church.

Glad to help.
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Tue 21 May 16:20

Other British is not a nationality.

The options in this botched up cocked up late census were loaded.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Tue 21 May 16:22

..by late I mean later than all other parts of the UK. Scot Covid to blame..

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 21 May 16:27

Wait until you hear about "Other Asian" 😱

Get back to watching GB News and reading the Daily Mail!
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 21 May 17:07

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Andrew283, Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good


It isn`t dying.
If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

The cup is still on the table.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Tue 21 May 17:21

If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

If.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 21 May 20:08

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Wotsit, Tue 21 May 17:21

If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

If.


:)

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 21 May 20:13

Anybody that doesn’t recognise that religion is a large part of the worlds political issues regarding war/race/LGBTQ etc is living under a rock.

The sooner more people become atheist non believers the world will become a much better place.

Just my opinion mind you……
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 21 May 21:07

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PARrot, Tue 21 May 17:07

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Andrew283, Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good


It isn`t dying.
If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

The cup is still on the table.


There is no cup on the table
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 21 May 22:24

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red-star-par, Tue 21 May 21:07

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PARrot, Tue 21 May 17:07

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Andrew283, Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good


It isn`t dying.
If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

The cup is still on the table.


There is no cup on the table


Someone beat you to it.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Wed 22 May 05:49

Quote:

Dave_1885, Tue 21 May 20:13

Anybody that doesn’t recognise that religion is a large part of the worlds political issues regarding war/race/LGBTQ etc is living under a rock.

The sooner more people become atheist non believers the world will become a much better place.

Just my opinion mind you……


Actually, you`re right and wrong at the same time, Dave. 🤔

I think all the main world religions stipulate love and tolerance of others. Where it all goes pear shaped is the way that some fanatical zealots apply their own warped interpretations to their religions to justify acts which no religion condones.

A couple of examples.

Do you think religion is to blame for Russia`s invasion of Ukraine?

And how about Israel`s destruction of Gaza? Isn`t one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 May 09:28

The Old Testament provides a number of examples of people killing with God`s explicit blessing. In fact, most of the times he Commands them!


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Wed 22 May 09:39

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red-star-par, Tue 21 May 21:07

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PARrot, Tue 21 May 17:07

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Andrew283, Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good


It isn`t dying.
If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

The cup is still on the table.


There is no cup on the table


A pretend imaginary cup is on the table but people believe in there is one. Those people pour water into non existent cup and soak the table because there is no cup on the table. Shocked and stunned said daftys mutter some nonsense about faith and declare the water is actually in the cup and not dripping onto the floor - they refuse to believe otherwise despite their clothing and shoes being wet.

Without fail I think less of people who declare themselves to be religious. It’s a (barely) unconscious bias and I try to work on it as people should believe what they want. I just think they are incredibly stupid and therefore not to be relied upon
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 May 14:19

Some of the smartest people I know have faith. It`s definitely not about intelligence.

Religious faith could even be the most human characteristic of all, in the sense that there`s no human society that I`m aware of that hasn`t had some form of religious or spiritual tradition. There`s not much about human culture that`s as ubiquitous as belief.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"


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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 22 May 15:07

The problem I have is people confusing religious values with British/Scottish/English ones. Most of the people talking about these traditions haven`t been in church for decades yet still think Britain should be like an Enid Blyton novel. Same applies to our Celtic/Rangers supporting pals. Hate each other because of religion yet don`t go to church. Laughable.
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 22 May 15:57

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P, Wed 22 May 09:39

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red-star-par, Tue 21 May 21:07

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PARrot, Tue 21 May 17:07

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Andrew283, Tue 21 May 16:30

Religion is dying out? Good


It isn`t dying.
If a cup is on a table and an increasing number of people decide, they don`t want to believe the cup is on the table.

The cup is still on the table.


There is no cup on the table


A pretend imaginary cup is on the table but people believe in there is one. Those people pour water into non existent cup and soak the table because there is no cup on the table. Shocked and stunned said daftys mutter some nonsense about faith and declare the water is actually in the cup and not dripping onto the floor - they refuse to believe otherwise despite their clothing and shoes being wet.

Without fail I think less of people who declare themselves to be religious. It’s a (barely) unconscious bias and I try to work on it as people should believe what they want. I just think they are incredibly stupid and therefore not to be relied upon


Seriously, that is up there with the most ignorant posts ever on this forum.

I`m sure you amused yourself with it though.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 May 16:16

My view is that faith has no place in conversation about truth.

Truth is, by definition, not the place for belief.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 22 May 17:41

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Wotsit, Wed 22 May 16:16

My view is that faith has no place in conversation about truth.

Truth is, by definition, not the place for belief.


But the Gospel is the truth

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 May 18:20

You`ve just given a perfect example of what I meant: you have misused the concept of "truth" there, and what you describe already has a very good word - "faith."


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: EastEndTales  
Date:   Wed 22 May 18:22

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PARrot, Wed 22 May 17:41

Quote:

Wotsit, Wed 22 May 16:16

My view is that faith has no place in conversation about truth.

Truth is, by definition, not the place for belief.


But the Gospel is the truth


What does that mean exactly?

Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 22 May 21:51

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Wotsit, Wed 22 May 18:20

You`ve just given a perfect example of what I meant: you have misused the concept of "truth" there, and what you describe already has a very good word - "faith."


I have faith it`s the truth ;)

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Wed 22 May 22:01

That`s nice.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Wed 22 May 22:33

It seems there are 2 separate questions - whether something is literally true, and whether it is useful.

So if I decide to give up crack cocaine for Lent, then that’s probably a good idea. And it’d be a good idea whether or not Jesus literally spent 40 days and nights in the desert.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Wed 22 May 23:41

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Wotsit, Wed 22 May 22:01

That`s nice.


It`s nice to be nice.

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 Re: Losing our religion
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Fri 24 May 10:59

"I have faith it`s the truth ;)"

so did George Michael ;)

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