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 Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:51

Interesting line up... bit strange/annoying seeing Holmes start rather than Sutherland.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:52

Team:

Mehmet
Welch-Hayes
Fisher
Breen
Edwards
O`Halloran
Allan
Chalmers (capt)
Moffat
Kane
Holmes

Sounds like it might be 4-4-2?

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:53

Subs:

Little
Hamilton
Ritchie-Hosler
Wighton
Todd
McCann
Jakubiak
T Sutherland
A Tod

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:55

No defenders on the bench, only Hamilton as a defensive minded midfielder/cover at centre back. Lots of attacking options; will presumably depend on fitness but assuming Todd, Ritchie-Hosler, Wighton just there to make up numbers and will be getting a wee rest?

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:57

Bold movd if it is 442 and Chalmers/Allan are playing together in central midfield.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Fri 3 May 18:59

Looks like a 4-4-2, hallelujah!
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:00

kelty_par wrote:

> No defenders on the bench, only Hamilton as a defensive minded
> midfielder/cover at centre back. Lots of attacking options;
> will presumably depend on fitness but assuming Todd,
> Ritchie-Hosler, Wighton just there to make up numbers and will
> be getting a wee rest?
>
>


A wee rest?? It’s the last game of the season! They’ll have plenty of rest after tonight! We could finish 5th tonight or 7th - surely we should be going for it and getting the best team out there for the extra prize money 5th brings in!

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: evo!  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:00

Not a bad defence but not the best with no Bene or MFW

Midfield pretty weak.

However i feel like i no nothing about Holmes, haven`t seen anything of him to suggest good or bad. So lets see how does partnered with the experienced Kane, but i would like to have seen Tod/Sutherland start

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:02

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ParfectXI, Fri 3 May 19:00

kelty_par wrote:

> No defenders on the bench, only Hamilton as a defensive minded
> midfielder/cover at centre back. Lots of attacking options;
> will presumably depend on fitness but assuming Todd,
> Ritchie-Hosler, Wighton just there to make up numbers and will
> be getting a wee rest?
>


A wee rest?? It’s the last game of the season! They’ll have plenty of rest after tonight! We could finish 5th tonight or 7th - surely we should be going for it and getting the best team out there for the extra prize money 5th brings in!


Agreed.
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:03

Could be a 5-3-2 with O`Halloran at RWB?

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:05

I`ll be very surprised if that`s 4-4-2
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: nick_dafc1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:09

Holmes over Sutherland, developing other teams players...what`s the point
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:09

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Jealous Furniture, Fri 3 May 19:03

Could be a 5-3-2 with O`Halloran at RWB?


Probably will be
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:10

Me two given there was a point this season we had zero fit central defenders and still opted for a three! 😂
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:10

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nick_dafc1, Fri 3 May 19:09

Holmes over Sutherland, developing other teams players...what`s the point


It`s probably to do with sutherland being nowhere near ready for championship football
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: the saline hill puma  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:12

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weemike, Fri 3 May 19:10

Quote:

nick_dafc1, Fri 3 May 19:09

Holmes over Sutherland, developing other teams players...what`s the point


It`s probably to do with sutherland being nowhere near ready for championship football


Neither is Holmes
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:16

Holmes must be magic on the training ground ,what we`ve seen of him I wouldn`t give him a place on the bench ,disappointed, was looking forward to our own young lads getting a run,,,,ha watch this ,he will score a hat trick :):):)
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:16

Theres not a chance it will be 4-4-2 😂 and Holmes ahead of Sutherland is baffling if our mantra is developing own players. Last game of season, surely you just leave the loanee out and give your youngster the chance?
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:25

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Dave_1885, Fri 3 May 19:16

Theres not a chance it will be 4-4-2 😂 and Holmes ahead of Sutherland is baffling if our mantra is developing own players. Last game of season, surely you just leave the loanee out and give your youngster the chance?


I`d understand if he was streets ahead but he is guff.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:27

I don`t mean the lad any harm but I can`t fathom why Holmes would get a start.
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 19:47

No offence l, but Ohalloran is awful.

Can see a tough tough game

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:01

I`m convinced we signed the wrong Chalmers. Logan Chalmers always looks dangerous against us.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:02

Dundee United 0-1 Partick Thistle

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:05

1-0 Ayr. Shocking goalkeeping from Mehmet.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:06

Has fisher not seen us recently Mehmet never comes off his line.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:07

Quote:

OzPar, Fri 3 May 20:05

1-0 Ayr. Shocking goalkeeping from Mehmet.


Tbf fisher is at fault for relying on him to charge out.
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:07

This is awful, feel sorry for those who travelled

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RhinoPars  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:07

Like to see it again but Fisher surely should have cleared that?

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: jojo  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:09

That’s on Fisher … don’t wait around clear your lines and argue about it later
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:10

Fisher should have cleared it but now we know why Mehmet doesn`t come off his line shocker from the 2 of them.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:11

Scrap that chalked off for offside.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:12

delighted for those that travelled

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:12

Fisher confused by Mehmet`s hesitation, was how I saw it. Unlucky to have a Holmes goal offside after wonderful run by Edwards.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:13

Aye what a shambles Fisher should have cleared it away did they not learn from Saturday

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:15

Get Holmes off

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:16

Queens Park 1-0 Airdrie
Rovers 2-0 Arbroath


Holmes had the ball in the net but it was ruled offside

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:17

So BBC says we are a goal down?

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:17

KRH on to replace Injjured MOH

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:17

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RMGpar, Fri 3 May 20:15

Get Holmes off


You could say that for everyone bar Edwards at this point.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:18

So is it a 3 or a 4 at the back? I`ve just managed to get Kelty junior to sleep so just catching up on the thread.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:18

Ritchie-Hosler on for O’Halloran

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:19

ICT 1-0 Morton

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:19

1-1 now?
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:19

1-1 Kane scores after Ayr`s defensive slip-up.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:19

Gifted us with that goal!

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:20

Moh off injured? What a flop of a signing.
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:21

Yay!

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:22

We all knew MOH wasn`t good enough. He has another season left as well. As do a few others in there that are nowhere near good enough. Ugh.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Parallel Lines  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:23

BBC had it 1 nil Ayr, then back to 0-0, now they`ve put the Ayr gosl back and Kano has equalised. Wtf

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:24

BBC having a nightmare here. I`m genuinely lost as to scores in other games.
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:26

KRH should have scored , good chance

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:26

2-1 Pars! Kane scores a gorgeous header.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:27

Yas!
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:28

wish I was there

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:28

Goallllllll yassss

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:29

3-1 Pars. Brilliant Edwards goal.

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:30

Hows this happened haha

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:30

1-3
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:31

Lol ayr have just collapsed, this is destined for 3-3
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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:31

Love ❤️ the Pars !

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:31

Get the forms oot for Moffat changed game since OHalloran went off and Edwards signs off with a goal

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:33

Dundee United 1-1 partick Thistle
ICT 1-1 Morton

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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:33

Nothing in the game but 3 excellent finishes from us. Ayr look genuinely terrible at the back. KRH sub was forced with MOH injury but has worked well for us.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:35

MOH is finished

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:39

Not like some posters to jump the gun




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 Re: Ayr United -v- Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:39

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RMGpar, Fri 3 May 20:07

This is awful, feel sorry for those who travelled


Please don`t. I`m hardly ever at any away game least of all with both my sons. Even at 1 down I was having a good time

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:44

Any deal we can put together with o’hallaran to pay a portion of his wages and move him on we should do it. No one able to offer what he’s on here would want him.

Good comeback from a team where I reckon 8 of them would be moved on if we could get them out. If we can move wighton on, Kane would be a good option, fitness issues but he’s now our top goalscorer and only joint in jan and miles better than anything we currently have.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:44

Squeaky bum next half for me.

Got Kane 45/1 for hattrick.

But also got him on as scorer on a 3-1 scorecast at 80/1 and a correct score 3-1 at 22/1.


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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: k76  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:45

We should have been in the play offs.

Mid season injuries were costly.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:50

Up to 5th. Cmon Pars!

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: craigypar35  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:50

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RMGpar, Fri 3 May 20:35

MOH is finished


Think he is as a footballer to be honest, one injury after another . Real shame as I thought he was going to be a great signing
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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:52

BBC sports app new scores is absolutely *****

Showed QP 1-0 at 26mins then 0-0 at HT. now back to the original 1-0.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:54

Mehmet makes a great save from a header close in.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 20:59

2748 fans ~ 431 Pars fans

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:00

ICT 2-1 Morton
Rovers 3-0 Arbroath

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:01

Hosler nets, but offside.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:01

United penalty - no touch from keeper deemed to have fouled him.

Save!

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:02

Back to 0-0 for ICT and they`ve played 45+32mins 😂
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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:03

Ayr had great shot from 25 yards hit the bar

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:03

lol honestly how pihs is it I’m back to watching the scores etc on Bet365

United 2-1 Plastic Whistle

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:05

Hamilton, Jaq and Sutherland on for Holmes, Moff and Allan

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:06

Inverness with a third. Hope Airdrie equalise.
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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:07

Morton down to ten men

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:07

2-3 poor defensive work again.

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:07

Must be so frustrating for our defence knowing Mehmet won`t come out for a ball

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:07

What the hell was Mehmet doing?

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:08

Stuck to his line as usual,the balls traveled 55yards into his box ffs
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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Hay Fever  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:10

Can we no just bring Mehmet on for Penalties 🙂

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 Re: Ayr United 1 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:11

3-3 FFS....

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:12

3-3

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:12

Our erse collapses every time they are in our box

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:12

Cant wait for the season to be over

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Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:12

Inspired subs by the manager
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:13

Been absolutely terrible since HT.
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:13

Dundee United 3-1 PTFC

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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:14

Blew a two goal lead there earlier in the season too.

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Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:14

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Lucho_8, Fri 3 May 21:13

Been absolutely terrible since HT.


We were terrible before HT, 3-1was not a fair scoreline
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:15

Seems very like us to do this. Sigh. Would be surprised if we manage to hold on to a draw in all honesty.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:15

I hope Inverness stays up if not another long season incoming

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:16

To be fair most of today’s team are not good enough and not regulars so we’ll do well to get a point now.

Mehmet showing that he’ll continue to be a liability for the next 2 years.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: FRED1981  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:16

That’s us at our best if any team needs a result play Dunfermline

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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:18

Ehh who cares, get this season in the bin.

I really dunno about KRH at wingback though, seems like a waste. Didn`t he play further forward last season, even in this same formation?

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:19

Wighton on for Kane

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Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:20

where would we be if Mehmet hadnt saved 5 penalties in a row?

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Topic Originator: gordi-b  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:22

Not sure about KRH at this level at all bit lightweight

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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:23

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pacifist, Fri 3 May 21:20

where would we be if Mehmet hadnt saved 5 penalties in a row?


Headed for the relegation playoffs

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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet injured and in trouble.

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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:25

Max Little Debut?

Not nice to see, Not sure what happened with Mehmet

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: Paralytic77  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:25

What happened??
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:26

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Fri 3 May 21:07

What the hell was Mehmet doing?


Looked like he slipped to be fair

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Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:26

This guy has got 1 transfer window and half a season.
Hell mend him if it`s still the same. He better improve big time.

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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:26

QP 2-0 up now, play-offs for ICT almost certain.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:26

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Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself

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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:27

Something serious with Mehmet?



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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: 87Par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:28

Deniz has been on the deck for ages all medical staff attending to him doesn`t look good
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:29

Yes still egtting medical attention, 4/5 doctors with him

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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:29

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da_no_1, Fri 3 May 21:26

Quote:

Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself


Christ da, just enjoy the game with your laddies... 🤦‍♂️
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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:30

Real concerns for Deniz Mehmet. The medical team is attending, and he`s on the stretcher. I hope the lad is okay.

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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:30

That really doesn`t sound good. Hopefully it is nothing nefarious and he is ok!

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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:32

Topic Originator: da_no_1 like
Date: Fri 3 May 21:26

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Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


"Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself"

Bet you`re not hard enough to say that to his face.

Absolute bell end you are Da no 1.

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Topic Originator: sintv  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:33

Ayr banner on tv has them 4 - 3
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:35

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GG4, Fri 3 May 21:32

Topic Originator: da_no_1 like
Date: Fri 3 May 21:26

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Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


"Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself"

Bet you`re not hard enough to say that to his face.

Absolute bell end you are Da no 1.


Brilliant, playground banter now, ffs 🤦‍♂️
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Topic Originator: GG4  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:36

Give us an ignore function then.

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:37

Hope Mehmet is ok

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Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:37

3-3 FT.

That`s our season complete. I think we have finished 6th. But all thoughts are with Deniz Mehmet right now.

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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:38

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GG4, Fri 3 May 21:36

Give us an ignore function then.


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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: weemike  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:39

Plenty of work needing done, disappointing first half despite the scoreline, and then the inability to manage a 3-1 lead.
Wish Deniz a speedy recovery. I sincerely hope to see him in goals at the start of next season.
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Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:39

Incredibly poor to blow another two goal lead against Ayr. Our major strength last season - defence, has been one of our biggest weaknesses this season. We need to address this in the summer (as well as scoring goals!) or it could be another long season. A disappointing end to a disappointing season and Deniz’s injury makes matters worse. Hope it turns out to be nothing major.

We desperately need to get it right this summer as it will be an extremely competitive league.

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Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:40

I certainly hope Deniz recovers and it’s nothing serious.

I’m not sure about wanting to see him in goals next season though.

I’m just glad this seasons over now, brutal.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:40

At that`s a wrap! Big summer ahead..

I hope Deniz makes quick recovery!

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:43

We finish 6th

SPFL Ch FT scores
Dundee United 4-1 PTFC
Raith Rovers 5-0 Arbroath
Queens Park 2-0 Airdrie
ICT 3-1 Morton

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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:47

Just 3 points covering teams 5th to 9th. Fair enough, very little to choose between them all season - and the team finishing 9th had a better GD than all but the top 3!

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Topic Originator: yorkiepar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 21:56

And, rather bizarrely, if you add together all the goal differences from positions 1-9 Arbroath equals it!

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Fri 3 May 22:00

Hopefully mehmet injury isn’t anything too serious.

An arguement here could be if the manager and coaching staff can’t improve mehmet to get him to command his box and try to come off his line then that’s another issue.

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 22:10

I`m guessing concussion, although did not see him collide with anyone etc, Only reason I am saying that is because we made a 6th sub

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 23:42

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alwaysaPar, Fri 3 May 21:29

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da_no_1, Fri 3 May 21:26

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Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself


Christ da, just enjoy the game with your laddies... 🤦‍♂️


Aye to be fair that was a bit much. In my defence I was watching him getting oxygen and medical treatment and it was genuinely worrying watching the doctors etc treating him. He`d made 2 cracking saves previous to that, 1 of them was a great stop from Dowds shot. He has his flaws but he`s by no means the dud that Berkey and others make out.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Fri 3 May 23:43

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RMGpar, Fri 3 May 22:10

I`m guessing concussion, although did not see him collide with anyone etc, Only reason I am saying that is because we made a 6th sub


Yeah, that was what we thought. Can`t think when he got concussed but he was in a bad way

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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Fri 3 May 23:49

Full game replay on You Tube



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wa9P7riKgI


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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Fri 3 May 23:56

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da_no_1, Fri 3 May 23:42

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alwaysaPar, Fri 3 May 21:29

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da_no_1, Fri 3 May 21:26

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Berkey, Fri 3 May 21:25

Mehmet has sold a fair few important goals too, great at penalties tho!


Berkey in the spirit of those at the game.....go **** yourself


Christ da, just enjoy the game with your laddies... 🤦‍♂️


Aye to be fair that was a bit much. In my defence I was watching him getting oxygen and medical treatment and it was genuinely worrying watching the doctors etc treating him. He`d made 2 cracking saves previous to that, 1 of them was a great stop from Dowds shot. He has his flaws but he`s by no means the dud that Berkey and others make out.


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Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Fri 3 May 23:57

Pity we couldn`t see it out for a win, but at least it was a more watchable game than the previous two. I wouldn`t say it was a great game, but there was at least some pace to it. Ayr probably had the better of the first half play but didn`t really make many chances from it, and I think we had 4 chances in the first half and scored 3 goals with the 4th also going in but being given offside.

Every time this season we`ve had a 2-goal lead we`ve looked pretty vulnerable, and we didn`t really get into it at all in the second half tonight. Ayr didn`t give us much space to play and we struggled a bit. Maybe we`d have got through that spell on another day, but they scored to get to 3-2 and kept going to equalise. Their second goal looked offside to me, then Mehmet had a horrible unlucky slip. Strangely, in pretty much the same spot as Joe Chalmers slipped when we were 2 goals up last time.

The shape I`d say was 3-5-2 in the first half (Holmes and Kane up front) then 4-2-3-1 with Holmes going wide left in the second half.

Not sure what happend when Mehmet went off. I didn`t see an injury earlier, but he was obviously struggling before taking that last goal kick and probably should have come off then. It didn`t look like concussion, but presumably that or one of the earlier ones must have been, for us to be allowed the extra sub.

I`m looking forward to a break from it and having some calmer weekends, but I`m sure I`ll be back up for it again when the league cup games start in July.

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Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Sat 4 May 01:15

I was at the game and it was very worrying when Deniz was lying receiving attention from the medical people. Please lay off commenting re Deniz until we get a statement to say what actually happened to him. Hope he is ok .

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Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 4 May 06:41

Entertaining game for end of season fare. Thought the score was a fair reflection on the game. KRH & TS look a real threat on the flanks. If we can keep the squad fit for next season hopefully exciting times ahead.

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Topic Originator: Gem 1977  
Date:   Sat 4 May 11:05

Deniz released from hospital and recuperating at home. Just posted on Pars Facebook page.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 4 May 11:14

Good news and get well soon, Deniz. From what the manager said post-match he may have been suffering from delayed concussion. Credit should go to everyone who attended to him on the pitch.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 4 May 11:24

Good to hear. Hopefully better soon.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sat 4 May 11:43

considering disaster since november with lot of injuries 6th wasnt too bad and we still keep the incredible record for scoring first and not losing since april 2022 so hopefully get some good players in for next season

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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sat 4 May 12:03

bigdonnie wrote:

> considering disaster since november with lot of injuries
> 6th wasnt too bad and we still keep the incredible record for
> scoring first and not losing since april 2022 so hopefully get
> some good players in for next season
>
>

Given the injury crisis a mid-table finish and regroup for next season is definitely acceptable. There are though a couple of concerns, do we have an injury-prone group and when we did get players back it wasn`t a whole lot better. Fingers crossed for that "big summer".

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 4 May 12:35

We gained 14 points in Q1, 9 points in each of Q2 and Q3 and 13 points in Q4, so I think there is evidence that the accumulation of injuries and its eventual easing did have an effect on results.

I`m curious about the term `injury-prone` which is casually bandied about on here. Can players be `prone` to collision or impact injuries? I suppose if they play in a reckless manner they may be more susceptible to those types of injuries but do we have players like that? It could be said that Hammy`s style of play might expose him to collision-type injuries and he did suffer a facial and head injury as did Fisher but they could just be the risks run by playing in their particular positions.

Injuries like strains, pulls, tears, etc can possibly be due to inadequate preparation but my impression is that those types of injury are becoming more common in the game in general and may be connected to the great emphasis now put on `pressing` and `closing down` which gives players fewer opportunities for natural breaks or the possibility of pacing themselves. There may be players whose bodies are more likely to suffer from such injuries but I`m wary about labelling our squad as `injury-prone` as if it`s something inherent in these particular players.

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Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 4 May 13:00

Some players seem to get through a season with no injuries at all. I can`t think of too many of our squad who came into that category apart from Chalmers, maybe Edwards and Otoo until the last few games. Most of the other first team regulars have had at least one long term injury and some with several. One would definitely be apprehensive about five or six of our top players to be able to perform consistently without at least one extensive lay off.

I would imagine in the past season that we have suffered more than most with injuries to key players. It remains to be seen if next season will be better. Maybe as some of our younger players become more physically robust they will be more able to cope with the physical side of the game.

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 4 May 13:09

Quite a few of the players played a lot of games in the previous season with not much rotation which could have possibly impacted this season?
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Sat 4 May 13:51

Our season of injuries continues till the last minutes of the last game!

Good to hear Denis is out of hospital and home with family. I don’t like the idea of labelling anyone as “injury prone”, just glad our calamity season is over. We all need a break now!

Finishing 6th is disappointing, but when you think of the run of many different injuries, players out of position, carrying injuries to play, young lads doing their best, it’s decent. Much improved for next season!!

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 4 May 16:01

It’s a bit of a trade off sometimes, in order to get the quality required through the door and in our wage structure a good player might well have fitness issues.

Kane a case in point…

Back to being drenched in my own negativity….

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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 May 18:37

Just watched highlights and you would think that Mehmet had a nightmare after reading this forum last night.

First goal was Fishers fault and second one he slipped … defence posted missing.
He made two or three good saves too although I never saw the mystery penalty save that Buffy posted at 21.01 🤷‍♂️

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 4 May 18:45

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buffy, Fri 3 May 21:01

United penalty - no touch from keeper deemed to have fouled him.

Save!


I was talking about the Dundee United game ye daftie Desperado 😂. I’d been updating the scores of the other matches whilst watching that match on TV.

FWIW I’ve never called Ayr United by just United.

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Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Sat 4 May 19:18

I was waiting on the penalty as well 🙄
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 4 May 19:24

I see Anton Dowds, who scored Ayr`s third goal, is actually on loan from PT. His contract with them expires in the summer...

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 4 May 19:48

Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 May 18:45

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buffy, Fri 3 May 21:01

United penalty - no touch from keeper deemed to have fouled him.

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I was talking about the Dundee United game ye daftie Desperado 😂

Ok you got me…….Not even going to ask why. I was thinking to myself last night that I doubt any keeper had saved five in a row…..🥴

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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 4 May 20:18

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wee eck, Sat 4 May 19:24

I see Anton Dowds, who scored Ayr`s third goal, is actually on loan from PT. His contract with them expires in the summer...


I don’t rate him, wee eck. Not any better than what we have




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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 4 May 20:26

Well, that`s that then...😊😊😊

He has good stats this season and that`s all that seems to matter to some for a striker. It`ll be interesting to see if PT offer him a new contract. If not, Ayr might be first in line, although it must have been Bullen who signed him rather than Brown.

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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: Par-timer  
Date:   Sat 4 May 20:55

Entertaining end to an up-and-down season, the Pars were surprisingly the only away team to get a point last night.

The Championship has proved just as competitive as it was in our previous stays over the past dozen or so years, with only three teams this season, the three immediately above us (Airdrie, Partick and Morton) winning more home games than away. Last night’s three goals also meant that we scored more goals away from EEP than in home games this season, a feat matched by five of the other teams.

If the management can find a way to buck the trend with a more effective tactic for home games, next season might prove much more successful, as the overall Championship finishing positions this season are almost identical to those in the table just containing home results.



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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 5 May 14:43

Some random thoughts.

Firstly, and most importantly, I hope Deniz is recovering and there are no long term effects. It was extremely concerning at the time (the urgency of the medical teams was evident) and being asked to make way for an ambulance afterwards is never good.

Second, it’s not clear to me when the injury (I’m assuming that there was a delayed concussion) was sustained, but this suggests that he played on, not only endangering his health, but also potentially exposing the defence although I can’t see that he was obviously compromised for any of the goals – assuming that it was just an unfortunate slip for the second – (I did see him examine his studs).

Third, the authorities deserve credit for the introduction of the “concussion substitution” rule – otherwise we could have ended the season with a bit of a farce – down to 10 men with someone like Hamilton in goals and presumably Ayr trying to put him under pressure. Perhaps there would have been a “gentleman’s understanding” and a draw would have been played out at that point.

I’m not sure I’m a fan of Friday night football – it does give you the weekend off, but you are exposed to the vagaries of the transport network. There was an accident on the M8 with 40 minute delays at one point – fortunately it had cleared by the time that I passed (and a Tuesday or Wednesday would have been worse) but it’s tempting not to bother going especially when you have to get your ticket in advance. Sometimes I wonder what the reaction would be if you invited the SPFL bigwigs to a 2 hour evening meeting 100 miles from their homes with no catering.

As for the team selection – I wasn’t sure what McPake was up to – he seemed to be trying to do several things simultaneously – rest players, reward players for patience, give youth a chance (although it seems odd to prefer other teams’ players) and put out a competitive team.

I thought it looked more like a conventional 4-4-2 – O’Halloran looked to have the freedom to play quite far forward and it was MWH who was getting forward to provide crosses. I was hoping to get a longer look at Holmes – he was playing more like a “normal” forward but there was one moment where Edwards got the ball on the left and you expected him to hit an immediate cross to the back post where Holmes had made the run, but of course the cross never came. It’s impossible to tell if he was on or off for his “goal”, and I guess he’ll never score for the Pars now.

Beforehand I though the match would either be a dreadful 0-0 draw with both sides going through the motions, or else one team would concede early and go onto lose heavily so it was more than pleasantly surprising to find ourselves 3-1 up at the break, I was hoping we’d go on and win comfortably (and we did create a few chances – even Chalmers had a shot on target) so it was disappointing not to get the win.




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 Re: Ayr United 3 - 3 Dunfermline match thread
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 5 May 14:49


There were a lot of bad bad goals – I’m not going to attempt to assign blame due to the circumstances but it made for an entertaining night until the end. It became rather awkward with some players giving away bits of clothing – I wondered if Andrew Tod was going to have to give away his glasses, possibly to the linesman, but sensibly he kept them to himself.

We`ve now got what, a fortnight or so before the new season and we can complain about the lack of signings?

One final comment on injuries - I think there is no question the game is faster and more physically demanding now. True, haff-time seems at least 5 minutes longer than it used to be and there are many more substitutions, but on the other side, there is loads of stoppage time plus there are all those spare balls about ensuring that the days of blootering the ball out of the stadium to get a breather are long gone.

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