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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:03
Here we are again.
Boy, I’d love to be more excited about the fitbaw these days - I do try (honest!) - it has to get better.
Team today :
Mehmet
Comrie
Hamilton
Otoo
Ritchie-Hosler
Chalmers
Wighton
Todd
Fogarty
Kane
Clay
Subs
Briggs
Fisher
Wotherspoon
O’Halloran
Sutherland
Young
Cooper
Mebude
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 17:02)
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:04
No McCann in the squad today!
I would have started cooper, good luck boys we really need these points!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:08
Formation change ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:09
Disappointing to see no Tobi again. I feel he gives the defence so much more confidence but it’s just our luck he’s injured again. I’m not so encouraged with Mehmet starting…
It’s about time we played two up top but I would prefer to see Sutherland or Mebude up front with Kane for a bit of pace but we can only hope Wighton does enough to show why he’s starting.
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 14:10)
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:10
Cooper for Todd for me.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:10
This weeks mystery missing player is McCann then, there is always one.
Strange looking team……. Let’s hope we are not making three subs at HT today…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:11
Only comrie and fogarty are recognised defenders! Is mcpake going to pull a Jimmy C 2-4-4 formation and go all out? Although there are 4 defensive midfielder in there if you include clay. Our squad just always seems short of the players we need regardlesss of how many mcpake signs.
No idea how that team will be set up? We look short of fit defenders again.
Shame the keeper looks like a crock, warning signs were there as he was constantly injured last season too.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:12
God knows what formation that will be
Our players just disappear, Tobi had a niggle a few weeks ago, same with Ngemya. Now McCann has just dropped out.
Cooper not starting is baffling.
I thought we would get a result today but less confident after seeing that team.
Hopefully prove me wrong though.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:13
Quote:
RossF, Sat 5 Oct 14:09
Disappointing to see no Tobi again. I feel he gives the defence so much more confidence but it’s just our luck he’s injured again. I’m not so encouraged with Mehmet starting…
It’s about time we played two up top but I would prefer to see Sutherland or Mebude up front with Kane for a bit of pace but we can only hope Wighton does enough to show why he’s starting.
Did you see last week`s game? Wighton changed the game and heavily involved in the goal. Him and Kane are both capable of scoring, hopefully we actually create done chances for them.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:13
Infuriating to see Cooper on the bench, and I’d hoped Mebude would have started. Is he going to be a super sub?
I’d rather we flew out the traps than play catch up.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:15
Quote:
hudza, Sat 5 Oct 14:12
God knows what formation that will be
Our players just disappear, Tobi had a niggle a few weeks ago, same with Ngemya. Now McCann has just dropped out.
Cooper not starting is baffling.
I thought we would get a result today but less confident after seeing that team.
Hopefully prove me wrong though.
Disagree on Cooper. Despite the very good goal, in general play he lost the ball a fair few times in dangerous positions.
Joe, KRH and Wighton deserve their starts and Cooper can be a very effective sub today.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:16
I would have started cooper and mebude just for the sheer buzz and to attack from the off! If the fans see attacking football we all get behind them from the off
It’s a really baffling formation
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:17
Quote:
RMGpar, Sat 5 Oct 14:16
I would have started cooper and mebude just for the sheer buzz and to attack from the off! If the fans see attacking football we all get behind them from the off
It’s a really baffling formation
Agree on formation, but we`re starting with two strikers who are both capable of scoring goals given the chance. Pressure on Todd and KRH to make those chances!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:19
Back to the back three. Young dropped despite being one of out better players the last few weeks. Either Comrie or Ritchie-Hosler going to have to play out of position at left wing back. No attacking width in the team. So glad I`m not going today.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:21
Mebude has been here five minutes. Unlikely to be match fit. Correct decision ton be on the bench. May get 15 mins ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:23
Quote:
kelty_par, Sat 5 Oct 14:19
Back to the back three. Young dropped despite being one of out better players the last few weeks. Either Comrie or Ritchie-Hosler going to have to play out of position at left wing back. No attacking width in the team. So glad I`m not going today.
When you`re feeling negative, this is the result. Strange take.
Young was poor last week, and he can`t complain on being dropped. He`s still raw and needs to be managed.
Why can it not be 4-4-2 with both Comrie and KRH in their natural position?
Oh, because you`ve decided. Have a think about it.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:24
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 5 Oct 14:21
Mebude has been here five minutes. Unlikely to be match fit. Correct decision ton be on the bench. May get 15 mins ?
Totally agree. Blowing out his hoop after warm up last week. Sutherland is the one right now that should feel aggrieved he hasn’t had a start.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:24
Massive game for Todd, if KRH more defensive it will be long punts up to the top 2 with Todd expected to support and link the play.
Hopefully airdrie still have all thier injury problems!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:26
I predict a 4-2-3-1,
Mehmet,
Comrie Hamilton fogarty otoo,
Chalmers clay,
KRH wighton Todd
Kane
I don`t know how else you would shoe horn them all in.
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 14:26)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:29
Looks like he`s trying the dynamic twin strike force of Wighton and Kane. Are they up to it? I do hope so. Strikers hunting in pairs has always been my preference. Who could forget SAS? Maybe WK will form a wicked partnership ( in the best sense of the word of course. Just sipping a coffee in Starbucks adjacent to the Excelsior Stadium, which actually looks quite impressive from the outside. Let`s hope we can emulate the 4-3 game, without the 3 of course.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:30
Disappointed that Tobi is still not deemed fit enough to play. I wonder if we pay his full wage if he is not playing?
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Topic Originator: tappies par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:34
Hopefully he goes with a 442 and plays 2 up front with Kane and Wighton. I think they are very similar type players. Maybe not so many options. Can’t believe that 2 midfielders are going to be playing in the back 4. I like Fisher and it’s a strange 1 to send Breen out on loan.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:40
That team fills me with fear…can see Airdrie hammering us…..
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:46
I`m interested if Hamilton and otoo are in defence? If they are, I suspect that we will be more efficient going forward. I have always wondered if having the two of them breaking up play actually left us being less dynamic going forward.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:51
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Sat 5 Oct 14:40
That team fills me with fear…can see Airdrie hammering us…..
What a positive influence you are. Thanks for sharing.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 5 Oct 14:59
Fans been put behind the goals instead of usual stand opposite the main stand.
Someone (maybe two folk?) already been drilled from a wayward shot in the warmup. Hope they are ok.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:02
No point DBA. Like talking to a brick wall with some folk. I think it’s intentional however.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:04
There’s been a medical emergency at the game as TAFKA has said above. Someone has been taken away on a stretcher.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:07
Two medical teams treating fans within 10 minutes. One gent away on stretcher hope he’s okay!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:08
RMG are you and I joined at the hip? 😉
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:10
Wee boy seems fine thankfully. Bryan Prunty came to check on him and gave him a match ball, fair play nice touch.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:11
That’s good to read TAFKA.
Falkirk 1-0 Ayr United
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:16
Are wea back 3 or 4 ?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:21
I did DBA but left at 2-0! As I said, hopefully he can show why he’s starting.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:22
Now kicked off and Todd’s shot is just wide
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:22
"Young was poor last week, and he can`t complain on being dropped. He`s still raw and needs to be managed."
He was as good and as poor as anyone. But the manager would rather play midfielders in defence.
"Why can it not be 4-4-2 with both Comrie and KRH in their natural position?"
It could be, but there would be no width on the left (it would either need to be Todd or - shudder - Chalmers there) and we`d have an unbalanced central midfield.
"Oh, because you`ve decided. Have a think about it."
No, I was going by people at the game who were watching the warm up. Is that OK with you? Maybe you should think about things rather than jumping in with two feet?
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:23
What is the formation then?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:28
Breen scores for Annan.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:31
Quote:
DBA, Sat 5 Oct 14:13
Quote:
RossF, Sat 5 Oct 14:09
Disappointing to see no Tobi again. I feel he gives the defence so much more confidence but it’s just our luck he’s injured again. I’m not so encouraged with Mehmet starting…
It’s about time we played two up top but I would prefer to see Sutherland or Mebude up front with Kane for a bit of pace but we can only hope Wighton does enough to show why he’s starting.
Did you see last week`s game? Wighton changed the game and heavily involved in the goal. Him and Kane are both capable of scoring, hopefully we actually create done chances for them.
Wighton on couldn’t change his pants 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:36
Does anyone else have a problem with the live updates on the club X feed? The only one I’m seeing is at 8 mins? (Now 24 mins but nothing in between)
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 15:37)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:38
Penalty to the Pars!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:38
Quote:
hudza, Sat 5 Oct 15:23
What is the formation then?
442
Comrie Foggarty Hamilton Otoo
Todd Clay Chalmers Krh
Wighton Kane
The flame still burns
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 15:39)
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:38
Quote:
buffy, Sat 5 Oct 15:36
Does anyone else have a problem with the live updates on the club X feed? The only one I’m seeing is at 8 mins? (Now 24 mins but nothing in between)
Chick Young on sportsound says nothing has happened. Game is very poor.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:39
Kane
Goallllllll
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:39
Goal! Chris Kane with a penalty!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:40
Goooooooooooaaaaaallllll. Get in
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:41
“Comrie is brought down in the box by Johnson after a excellent ball through from Wighton. Kane steps up from the spot and sends the keeper the wrong way.”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:47
Airdrie were looking for a penalty but didn’t get it
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:48
Nearly a second for Kane
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:49
Quote:
buffy, Sat 5 Oct 15:41
“Comrie is brought down in the box by Johnson after a excellent ball through from Wighton. Kane steps up from the spot and sends the keeper the wrong way.”
Cant post quotes with Wighton and excellent in the same sentence, .nets finest will lose their minds!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:51
KRH should switch with Todd
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:53
😂
Clocked Kelty’s result in Dumfries ~ beating QoS 5-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 16:36)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:53
Breens goal was from the half way line! My father in law is at the game.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 15:56
Airdrie well in this
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:01
Dreadful game of football to be fair. Airdrie centre forward giving Foggarty his biggest test yet, looks a real handful.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:02
Quote:
RossF, Sat 5 Oct 15:21
I did DBA but left at 2-0! As I said, hopefully he can show why he’s starting.
Sums up the site. Someone who didn`t see the players performance last week says he shouldn`t start
Glad you`ve been proved wrong so far mate.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:09
Massive result if we can hold onto this, it’s been such a poor start that as it stands this win doesn’t even move us up a place in the table!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:11
Falkirk 2-0 Ayr United
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:11
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 5 Oct 16:09
Massive result if we can hold onto this, it’s been such a poor start that as it stands this win doesn’t even move us up a place in the table!
Can only take each result as it comes. Win this (hopefully) then move onto the next. It’s still early season
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:12
Airdrie came at us after the goal and Mehmet has kept us in it. Not our best performance again. Hoping for a better second half.
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 16:12)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:14
Morton 2-0 Rovers
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 16:15)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:24
Queens Park 1-0 Hamilton
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:27
Josh Edwards being credited with the assist for Charlton`s opening goal
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:34
Goal airdrie
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:35
Mehmet... FFS
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:35
Another primary school level goal conceeded from a cross into the box.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:35
Mehmet needs to be braver there
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:37
Don’t think too many Pars fans will be surprised……
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:38
Big test now…will we collapse or is there something in this squad that suggests we can hold our own this season
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:38
Todd is done for today
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:38
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Sat 5 Oct 16:35
Another primary school level goal conceeded from a cross into the box.
On going theme of the season…
COYP
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:38
Mehmet sells a goal every game!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:39
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 5 Oct 16:38
Todd is done for today
Injured or just needing match fitness?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:40
Knackered
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:41
hope we don`t cave in after that !
It has to be a worry for anyone playing in front of Mehmet knowing if you don`t get a cross ball when it comes into the box , there is no chance of him coming for it , it actually Pi55es me off
And how many times has Mehmet cost us points by not coming for a ball and not just this season ?
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:41
Mehmet not to blame, but why not stick with a scapegoat eh? Awful defending.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:42
My initial reaction was he could have beaten the Airdrie player to the ball if he had been more decisive. ?
I could be wrong ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:44
Cooper and Mebude on for Wighton and Todd
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:44
Great chance for the Pars as Cooper flicks on Comrie`s cross, which just evades Kane who is now down receiving treatment.
Wotherspoon on for Kane
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:45
Mebude to net the winner. Written in the stars.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:45
Lucky not to lose another. Mehmet not convincing with the punch
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:51
Andy Tod with a goal for East Fife
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 16:52
Sutherland on for Clay
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:05
Just watching Chris Kane limping. Think that’s two weeks out at least.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 17:06)
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:05
We really need a change. McPake is failing to take points in games we really need to win. Airdrie have been leaking goals and we fail to do anything in open play. Last week was brutal against an average Queen’s Park team. I can’t see us doing any damage to Morton next week with him in charge. The only thing I wouldn’t be surprised at is brutal football, hardly testing the opposition goalkeeper and struggling to deal with corners/crossed balls. It’s boring and predictable. Based on our season so far, relegation looks certain.
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 17:11)
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:05
Todd was not tracking his man who was in acres of space to score.
A draw was probably a fair result
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:06
Well we missed the chance to go above Raith today ! which is annoying
It would have been on Goal difference but I am looking for any scrap of positivity these days as it`s grim times for us
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:06
That was brutal to watch. Is Mcpake going to move us forward as a club??? Time up for me. He should be sacked.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:06
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:05
We really need a change. McPake is failing to take points in games we really need to win. Airdrie have been leaking goals and we fail to do anything in open play. Last week was brutal against an average Queen’s Park team. I can see us doing any damage to Morton next week with him in charge. The only thing I wouldn’t be surprised at is brutal football, hardly testing the opposition goalkeeper and struggling to deal with corners/crossed balls. It’s boring and predictable. Based on our season so far, relegation looks certain.
Were you at the game Ross?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:06
Airdrie were worth their point
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:11
The unfortunate thing is bannockburn Par I fear he will be here next week and it will be the same crap getting played , at present cannot see us Beating Morton if I am brutally Honest it`s hard to think where our next points are going to come from . im not a defeatist but boy are we toiling , no wonder Airdrie and us are where we are , sometimes you have to put your hand up and say it , we are absolutely brutal
Well Bring on kelty next Saturday and let`s see what we can do wrong there
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t but I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:13
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 17:06
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:05
We really need a change. McPake is failing to take points in games we really need to win. Airdrie have been leaking goals and we fail to do anything in open play. Last week was brutal against an average Queen’s Park team. I can see us doing any damage to Morton next week with him in charge. The only thing I wouldn’t be surprised at is brutal football, hardly testing the opposition goalkeeper and struggling to deal with corners/crossed balls. It’s boring and predictable. Based on our season so far, relegation looks certain.
Were you at the game Ross?
He`s not wrong.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:16
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 17:13
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 17:06
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:05
We really need a change. McPake is failing to take points in games we really need to win. Airdrie have been leaking goals and we fail to do anything in open play. Last week was brutal against an average Queen’s Park team. I can see us doing any damage to Morton next week with him in charge. The only thing I wouldn’t be surprised at is brutal football, hardly testing the opposition goalkeeper and struggling to deal with corners/crossed balls. It’s boring and predictable. Based on our season so far, relegation looks certain.
Were you at the game Ross?
He`s not wrong.
Another missed opportunity. Mcpake might run out of time as the price for us in the championship will be nowhere near the price for us in league 1.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:19
5pts in 8 games is nowhere near good enough.
At what point do the board accept he is never going to achieve 40pts?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:20
Quote:
weemike, Sat 5 Oct 17:19
5pts in 8 games is nowhere near good enough.
At what point do the board accept he is never going to achieve 40pts?
At this rate we`ll struggle to get half that!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:28
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t, but I watched a stream. I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
I was just wondering if you’d seen it.
I’ve not so I’m trying to gauge the performance from ppl’s comments but there’s a few who like to throw their neb in without having seen the game.
COYP
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:30
We play torrid football, concede from set pieces game after game and struggle to score goals from open play. As much as anything is there anything entertaining about watching a pars game now?
I`d hope a priority moving forward for whoever comes into invest in the club is bringing back some brand of attacking football, right now it`s really a struggle to get excited about the product on the field.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:30
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 17:28
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t, but I watched a stream. I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
I was just wondering if you’d seen it.
I’ve not so I’m trying to gauge the performance from ppl’s comments but there’s a few who like to throw their neb in without having seen the game.
Are you going to ask every poster?
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:33
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NMCmassive, Sat 05 Oct 17:28
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t, but I watched a stream. I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
I was just wondering if you’d seen it.
I’ve not so I’m trying to gauge the performance from ppl’s comments but there’s a few who like to throw their neb in without having seen the game.
I don’t think the issue is seeing the game and judging the result based on that. It is coming away with only a point after a series of poor results. Is it one win in 15?
The squad is mostly fit and is just not performing well enough. 5 points in 8 games is relegation form. I think the blame lays squarely with the management team. I hope JMcP can turn it round but really don’t think he can!
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:36
That was a hard watch. Very little quality from either team but draw probably a fair result.
Both their centre backs looked suspect and with a mistake in them but we rarely worked them.
Thought Hamilton was our best player by some stretch and Clay had a decent game as well. Still badly needing a left sided midfielder/forward, KRH was virtually anonymous.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 17:38)
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:46
These performances are sucking the footballing life out of me.
How much more of this are we going to have to put up with?
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:47
Quote:
dpard, Sat 5 Oct 17:46
These performances are sucking the footballing life out of me.
How much more of this are we going to have to put up with?
My thoughts exactly.
Every weekend I`m like let`s have a beer and think positive and then by 5pm I`m just in despair watching this rubbish.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:48
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 17:30
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 17:28
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t, but I watched a stream. I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
I was just wondering if you’d seen it.
I’ve not so I’m trying to gauge the performance from ppl’s comments but there’s a few who like to throw their neb in without having seen the game.
Are you going to ask every poster?
Did you go today Mike?
COYP
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:49
5 points from 8 games is inexcusable. Add to that the poor run in last season and it really is awful form.
The whole club needs a lift from somewhere. Soon.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:51
I have bought a Diddy Cup ticket for the Kelty Hearts game. Bad result in that match and my season ticket is getting left in a drawer until things improve. I am sure many others will also be looking at finding another interest on matchdays.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:51
He’s got to be close to the exit door after today?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:56
Slightly different personnel but same old story. Not enough championship level players and a poor management team.
Dapo the latest player in the door with fitness concerns to come in and we wonder why squad is unbalanced and lacking. Kane off injured again so will now be nursed for a month.
The only thing that will change this is a new manager.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 5 Oct 17:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 5 Oct 17:49
5 points from 8 games is inexcusable. Add to that the poor run in last season and it really is awful form.
The whole club needs a lift from somewhere. Soon.
Deary me DA something we agree on ...
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:00
Quote:
weemike, Sat 5 Oct 17:19
5pts in 8 games is nowhere near good enough.
At what point do the board accept he is never going to achieve 40pts?
^^^ Nearly a quarter of the season gone and at this rate we are in target to achieve just over 20pts. It`s going to be a long hard season.
I am going to the Kelty game and suspect defeat.
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:01
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sat 5 Oct 17:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 5 Oct 17:49
5 points from 8 games is inexcusable. Add to that the poor run in last season and it really is awful form.
The whole club needs a lift from somewhere. Soon.
Deary me DA something we agree on ...
Another insightful post from you......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:16
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summeragent, Sat 5 Oct 17:33
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NMCmassive, Sat 05 Oct 17:28
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RossF, Sat 5 Oct 17:11
I wasn’t, but I watched a stream. I goto all the home games and I’ve seen enough this season to come to this conclusion.
I was just wondering if you’d seen it.
I’ve not so I’m trying to gauge the performance from ppl’s comments but there’s a few who like to throw their neb in without having seen the game.
I don’t think the issue is seeing the game and judging the result based on that. It is coming away with only a point after a series of poor results. Is it one win in 15?
The squad is mostly fit and is just not performing well enough. 5 points in 8 games is relegation form. I think the blame lays squarely with the management team. I hope JMcP can turn it round but really don’t think he can!
Personally I think if you’re talking about the general performance during the game, you’re better to see the game. I’ll use the match v Ayr as evidence, loads came on here for a pop at the team afterwards even though it was a decent performance.
You’re 100% correct about 5 points though.
If form continues we’re on for a rip roaring season total of 22/23 points…
I honestly don’t expect to see him loose his job after today but surely the exit door is at least ajar
COYP
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:25
Mcpake couldn’t set up a direct debit. A manager who knows he can phone it in all season without threat of a sack.
He either doesn’t know a championship level player when he sees it or he can’t set up a team with championship players to compete at championship level. Which one is it?
Is there a fan out there who believes mcpake is good enough to get us competing at the top end of the league playing decent fitba?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:39
Has anyone checked the stats comparison for the championship with McPake, Hughes and Grant? Doubt there is much difference.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:45
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CrossPar, Sat 5 Oct 18:39
Has anyone checked the stats comparison for the championship with McPake, Hughes and Grant? Doubt there is much difference.
It’s on a “Mcfake” thread I think
It’s not good.
COYP
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:49
He should have been away after last week. That performance was nothing short of a disgrace. Something has to give.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:50
The board has to rip the band-aid off!
You could argue he could`ve been sacked with no complaints after QP 0-3 last season.
You could argue he could`ve been gone after getting knocked out the cup by two part-time lower league teams.
The longer it goes on. The harder the task for the next manager.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:50
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 05 Oct 18:45
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CrossPar, Sat 5 Oct 18:39
Has anyone checked the stats comparison for the championship with McPake, Hughes and Grant? Doubt there is much difference.
It’s on a “Mcfake” thread I think
It’s not good.
He’s easily up there with Grant and Yogi.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 5 Oct 18:53
Yeah I’d wager Grant had at least the same amount of points as mcpake currently has at the start of that season.
If the Germans were not selling then surely he would have been out by now? Feels like theres no leadership in the boardroom to take the responsibility and punt him, instead we think allowing him to sign more players is the answer.
Meanwhile the rudderless ship continues to slowly sink.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:08
I think McPake needs to go but realistically can we afford it? Probably not I think we are stuck in this hole for the long run unfortunately
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:16
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LEGEND85, Sat 5 Oct 19:08
I think McPake needs to go but realistically can we afford it? Probably not I think we are stuck in this hole for the long run unfortunately
☝🏻 I think he’s correct.
As soon as I seen us I said we’ve got relegation written all over us. A couple of new signings, 2 decent performances had me thinking we were at least back on track but now it’s all heading the way it was. If we don’t finish bottom it’ll only be for the sake of Airdrie being worse.
COYP
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:17
At least grant got us out of the league cup group. This bunch got 2 pumpings at home against lower league teams,mcpake couldn`t run a bath. And the players better start bucking their ideas up as most of them will be lucky to even get close to this sort of level again in their careers.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:22
Football is a disaster this year, yesterday we keep seeing glimpses of positivity eg v Dun Utd last year, 1st half v Ayr, v Raith.
I honestly think if Tobi was playing every week we would be so much better. He gets the team further up the park and hence we are more attacking. He also commands his box, Mehmet doesn’t and I don’t think the defence have confidence in him.
Mehmet makes us play from the back and we are quickly closed down by the opposition and then put under pressure.
We played a good first half against Ayr with arguably our best starting 11 and then made 3-4 substitutions and then fell out of the game. Why make substitutions for the sake of it? Surely these players can play 90mins.
JMcP really has to do better. I hope he turns things around but I can’t see it. I do think the biggest issue is with the keeper and I hope we get Tobi back asap (does anyone know when he is likely to be back) and then see some improvement in performances.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:25
Really lack lustre stuff from us. The keeper was not at fault for the goal - it could have gone anywhere.
It`s hard to think of a group of passes we strung together. It`s hard to think of too many successful throw ins. We put in some very poor cross balls. Some reasonably simple things we get wrong.
When we went in front they and their fans were down and out. But at no point did we dominate. If anything the longer the game went on the more confident Airdrie became - I wasnt expecting us to survive.
Confidence is seriously lacking but we do seem to lack a real leader on the pitch.
It has to get better soon.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:31
Again wasn’t there today but another disappointing result in the long run.
His record is just as bad as Grant and Yogi who were (rightly) hounded out of the club - how long does he have left realistically?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:37
I like to come on here to see folks thoughts on the game and compare them with my own but now I realise the majority of contributors weren`t at the game and post comments based on other games they`ve seen (or maybe not seen).
Suggesting that Mehmet makes us play from the back is a new one though. I presume that is laid down by the manager but today he mostly hit it long.
Hammy was excellent today playing at CB and he saved our bacon near the end when he appeared to be outpaced by an Airdrie attacker who broke into our box but somehow he managed to legally ease him off the ball so Mehmet could come and claim it. Wighton was also very effective dinking balls behind the defence and one of these led to the penalty. I also thought Matty Todd was sharper than last week and Mebude could cause defences trouble. I think he was fouled every time he got the ball.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 19:52
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wee eck, Sat 5 Oct 19:37
I like to come on here to see folks thoughts on the game and compare them with my own but now I realise the majority of contributors weren`t at the game and post comments based on other games they`ve seen (or maybe not seen).
Suggesting that Mehmet makes us play from the back is a new one though. I presume that is laid down by the manager but today he mostly hit it long.
Hammy was excellent today playing at CB and he saved our bacon near the end when he appeared to be outpaced by an Airdrie attacker who broke into our box but somehow he managed to legally ease him off the ball so Mehmet could come and claim it. Wighton was also very effective dinking balls behind the defence and one of these led to the penalty. I also thought Matty Todd was sharper than last week and Mebude could cause defences trouble. I think he was fouled every time he got the ball.
To be fair, Mehmet doesn`t want to be here, he`s not happy....
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:06
Pretty poor stuff from us again. I think our only serious chance in the whole game was the penalty and the decision to award that looked an absolute joke to me. I`d have been furious if that decision had gone against us.
It was a poor game and nobody would be surprised that both sides are at the bottom. There wasn`t much in it early on, we got the penalty out of nothing then we really struggled from then until half-time. Just not on it as a team as the gaps seemed to open up everywhere, though Airdrie didn`t look very good either. You hoped that having made it to half-time we might get back into the game in the second half but it always had a feeling of holding on, even though we weren`t really under any heavy pressure.
The draw was fair enough, but frustrating we couldn`t hold on to win. My initial thought was that Mehmet didn`t do much wrong at the goal, but it was a shocking goal to lose for other reasons. How we can be pulled apart by a simple routine from a shy is ridiculous, and how we can have a man completely free at the back post is mad. I don`t blame Aaron Comrie for it, as my memory of it is that he was left 2 on 1 and had to take the man inside, which obvioulsy left the other free. In that situation, like the two goals we lost last week, it`s on the whole team to defend, not just those playing at the back. The repeated failure to do that can only be a failure of coaching.
Two poor teams on the day, and a refereeing performance enitrely in keeping with the standard of the teams.
We`re just not a coherent team and when you make so many basic mistakes on top of that, it`s hard to win. We did little in the second half, but had 4 chances to put balls in the box from corners or free kicks quite close together late in the game. Every one of the balls in was terrible which stops you getting pressure on.
Chris Hamilton had a decent game at the back, Maty Todd had a few runs that made me thing there might be more to come, Aaron Comrie was steady enough and Chris Kane had a few moments where he nipped into cause some panic, but that really was it.
I`m glad we managed a point, but it`s got to be better than that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:11
`To be fair, Mehmet doesn`t want to be here, he`s not happy....`
That`s funny. I thought he was delighted to be on a three-year contract and one of our top earners. I`ll have to stop believing everything I read on here.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:12
"To be fair, Mehmet doesn`t want to be here, he`s not happy...."
In which case nothing to stop him asking to be released from contract by mutual consent.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:12
I think the poor performance last week cost us. On another day a point against Airdrie would have been a good result. The teams up to 5th in the league have only won 2 games. Ayr and Falkirk are obviously running away with it this season but every other spot is still up for grabs at the moment.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:20
That team is utter dreadful in what McPake wants them to play…..how many more months can fans go on watching this🤷 Jesus just someone come in and set up the team to play attacking football and defend when we have to…Surely someone in the club can say to James”stop all the utter **** and get the ball forward and attack” or just get out as myself and many others have had enough.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:22
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wee eck, Sat 5 Oct 19:37
I like to come on here to disagree with everyone
Fixed that for you. 👍
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:23
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wee eck, Sat 05 Oct 19:37
I like to come on here to see folks thoughts on the game and compare them with my own but now I realise the majority of contributors weren`t at the game and post comments based on other games they`ve seen (or maybe not seen).
Suggesting that Mehmet makes us play from the back is a new one though. I presume that is laid down by the manager but today he mostly hit it long.
Hammy was excellent today playing at CB and he saved our bacon near the end when he appeared to be outpaced by an Airdrie attacker who broke into our box but somehow he managed to legally ease him off the ball so Mehmet could come and claim it. Wighton was also very effective dinking balls behind the defence and one of these led to the penalty. I also thought Matty Todd was sharper than last week and Mebude could cause defences trouble. I think he was fouled every time he got the ball.
When Mehmet plays he passes the ball to the nearest defender. When Tobi plays everyone goes forward and he comes out 25 yards or so and punts the ball. The team are all further forward. No immediate pressure on the defence and no tedious trying to pass up the field and inevitably losing possession. Have you not noticed this?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:33
As above and surely McPake and his assistant can see this? Wee Eck just likes to play devils advocate all the time…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:40
Were either of you at today`s game? On quite a few occasions Mehmet waved the team up the field before releasing the ball.
Do you know what `acting devil`s advocate` means, Alter Ego? I don`t think so.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:49
Wee Eck I don’t give a flying ***** but you seem to follow me and make remarks like a wee smart erse.. I don’t know if you are an admin but hey ho do what you want as I couldn’t care what you say!
Anyway as I will probably get a card from the power happy people…. We play far too defensive with the squad we have?? Just attack and get the team up the pitch?
Is what I said ok for you admin guys? Is wee Eck part of here? Iv taken screenshots so you don’t have the admin hunger of banning me as I’m sure you want to…just don’t answer to my posts if you feel that angry?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:53
There’s no question in my mind that Deniz Mehmet’s overall game is not good enough for the Scottish Championship but he can’t be scapegoated for the performances of the 10 in front of him.
Tobi is the 1st time we’ve seen a modern goalkeeper playing for us and the difference it made to us as a team was immense. He pushed the game forward and then it gave us more time and space at the back when we needed it. Only time will tell how successful he’ll be with us tho
COYP
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:54
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Alter Ego, Sat 5 Oct 20:49
Wee Eck I don’t give a flying ***** but you seem to follow me and make remarks like a wee smart erse.. I don’t know if you are an admin but hey ho do what you want as I couldn’t care what you say!
Anyway as I will probably get a card from the power happy people…. We play far too defensive with the squad we have?? Just attack and get the team up the pitch?
Is what I said ok for you admin guys? Is wee Eck part of here? Iv taken screenshots so you don’t have the admin hunger of banning me as I’m sure you want to…just don’t answer to my posts if you feel that angry?
alter ego ,I agree with you .We have good players in that squad to put out an attacking team ,but we always set up not to loose rather to win .
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 20:58
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 20:53
There’s no question in my mind that Deniz Mehmet’s overall game is not good enough for the Scottish Championship but he can’t be scapegoated for the performances of the 10 in front of him.
Tobi is the 1st time we’ve seen a modern goalkeeper playing for us and the difference it made to us as a team was immense. He pushed the game forward and then it gave us more time and space at the back when we needed it. Only time will tell how successful he’ll be with us tho
Funny how an on loan player can change the way a whole back line plays!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:00
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 20:58
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 20:53
There’s no question in my mind that Deniz Mehmet’s overall game is not good enough for the Scottish Championship but he can’t be scapegoated for the performances of the 10 in front of him.
Tobi is the 1st time we’ve seen a modern goalkeeper playing for us and the difference it made to us as a team was immense. He pushed the game forward and then it gave us more time and space at the back when we needed it. Only time will tell how successful he’ll be with us tho
Funny how an on loan player can change the way a whole back line plays!
He’s not changing how the back line plays tho…
COYP
Post Edited (Sat 05 Oct 21:00)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:00
You seem to be the angry one, AE.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:05
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 21:00
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 20:58
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 20:53
There’s no question in my mind that Deniz Mehmet’s overall game is not good enough for the Scottish Championship but he can’t be scapegoated for the performances of the 10 in front of him.
Tobi is the 1st time we’ve seen a modern goalkeeper playing for us and the difference it made to us as a team was immense. He pushed the game forward and then it gave us more time and space at the back when we needed it. Only time will tell how successful he’ll be with us tho
Funny how an on loan player can change the way a whole back line plays!
He’s not changing how the back line plays tho…
Away! With the new keeper, the back line are starting at the half Way line any time he has the ball. You can`t be offside from a goal kick and tobi can clear the park from his 6-yard line.
The whole team starts further up the park and when we win 2nd balls, we are already In the opponents half.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:12
Buffy come on surely anyone can see wee have an attacking team/formation to play with the squad we have?? God knows what training is like! It’s just so frustrating how McPake puts that team out every week..play Sutherland,new loan guy BUT stop playing this negative football week in/out. Boring pihs so get the ball up the park and play some football!!!….its not that hard
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:13
I note neither answered my query about being at the game. Anyone who was will confirm that Mehmet didn`t consistently play the ball out from the back today.
Alter Ego, I don`t know where you got the idea that I`m part of Admin. I simply express my own opinions on here and challenge other people`s when I don`t agree with them. I thought that was the purpose of a forum.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:17
I`ve noticed that since he has returned, he has played out from the back less. And if someone was AT the game or not, it is completely irrelevant.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:24
Ah Wee Eck being a wee erse again saying I’m the victim and only saying what I express/ how the team plays blah blah… you ate the wee sweetie wife of .net.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:27
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 21:05
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 21:00
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 20:58
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 20:53
There’s no question in my mind that Deniz Mehmet’s overall game is not good enough for the Scottish Championship but he can’t be scapegoated for the performances of the 10 in front of him.
Tobi is the 1st time we’ve seen a modern goalkeeper playing for us and the difference it made to us as a team was immense. He pushed the game forward and then it gave us more time and space at the back when we needed it. Only time will tell how successful he’ll be with us tho
Funny how an on loan player can change the way a whole back line plays!
He’s not changing how the back line plays tho…
Away! With the new keeper, the back line are starting at the half Way line any time he has the ball. You can`t be offside from a goal kick and tobi can clear the park from his 6-yard line.
The whole team starts further up the park and when we win 2nd balls, we are already In the opponents half.
It’s not really changing how the back line plays tho.
Yeah, it’s moved us much further up the park but how we’re setting up defensively hasn’t really changed. We’re still not a high pressing team. When they get the ball we still tend to drop back and fall into a formation.
If we had any pace in the backline, we may have tried to be much more high pressing. I actually think young and foggarty look like they may be quick enough but I may be wrong.
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:28
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Alter Ego, Sat 5 Oct 21:12
Buffy come on surely anyone can see wee have an attacking team/formation to play with the squad we have?? God knows what training is like! It’s just so frustrating how McPake puts that team out every week..play Sutherland,new loan guy BUT stop playing this negative football week in/out. Boring pihs so get the ball up the park and play some football!!!….its not that hard
All I said was you seem angry AE.
I’m not a happy bunny either with the fitbaw. I just tend to let it go after the 90 mins.
I’m mair angry at my microwave popcorn burning inside the packet after twa mins and smoking the hoose oot!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:31
Who said anything about being the victim? Now you`re accusing me of being a cannibal! Why don`t you read your posts before you send them?
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:32
There`s no doubt he has a long kick, but I actually don`t think we used it enough in the games he played. Both keepers have recently tried to play a mix of long and short stuff from the back so it`s just not true to say that one plays long and the other short. It just seems one of these over-simplifications that people seem fond of - the other recent one was people who were convinced that 3 at the back was the problem, sometimes coming after games when we hadn`t even played 3 at the back.
I don`t think McPake doesn`t try to win games, I just think there are so many deficiencies in his team that it`s difficult to do so.
We`re generally poor as a team when we need to come back from a goal down. We also don`t handle games that well when we have a lead, though part of that is probably now panic because we`ve won so rarely. I hate short, slow, ineffective football so trying to be a bit more direct is welcome and stops us giving the ball away so often in stupid positions but it`s difficult to get far with it because we don`t have a credible direct option. We haven`t for years and it`s a team conditioned into playing over-passy rubbish for at least 3 managers in a row that then has little to offer when the style has to change. We`re utterly incapable of hitting teams with quick, direct attacks. Our players have been conditioned to think about playing slow and keeping the ball, and so even though we are a bit more direct than we`ve been, they often just aren`t minded to do anything quickly and fall back to going slow and backwards, or stopping and taking a second, when what is needed is a simple quick pass.
We`re now also losing some pretty terrible goals, and that`s a combination that`s going to make things pretty hard.
As a team, we look utterly bereft of anything. We need a lift and a change pretty soon. But I do think people often want to over-simplify things which puts the focus on things that are only symptoms.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:32
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wee eck, Sat 05 Oct 21:13
I note neither answered my query about being at the game. Anyone who was will confirm that Mehmet didn`t consistently play the ball out from the back today.
Alter Ego, I don`t know where you got the idea that I`m part of Admin. I simply express my own opinions on here and challenge other people`s when I don`t agree with them. I thought that was the purpose of a forum.
It’s not just about playing Mehmet getting the ball up the park, although there is a massive contrast between him and Tobi.
It’s his positioning in the box, his inability to come for balls, flapping when he should be catching. He seems to be disconnected from the defence and this is leading to errors and the lose of stupid goals!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:38
It’s not really changing how the back line plays tho.
Yeah, it’s moved us much further up the park but how we’re setting up defensively hasn’t really changed. We’re still not a high pressing team. When they get the ball we still tend to drop back and fall into a formation.
If we had any pace in the backline, we may have tried to be much more high pressing. I actually think young and foggarty look like they may be quick enough but I may be wrong.
No one is talking about a higher defensive press!!
The backline is further up the pitch with the new keeper.
The whole team/game is played further up the pitch with the new keeper due to his style and kicking ability.
It`s funny how an on loan player with such strengths can dictate how a team plays. Especially when he won`t be here permanently
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:53
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weemike, Sat 05 Oct 21:38
It’s not really changing how the back line plays tho.
Yeah, it’s moved us much further up the park but how we’re setting up defensively hasn’t really changed. We’re still not a high pressing team. When they get the ball we still tend to drop back and fall into a formation.
If we had any pace in the backline, we may have tried to be much more high pressing. I actually think young and foggarty look like they may be quick enough but I may be wrong.
No one is talking about a higher defensive press!!
The backline is further up the pitch with the new keeper.
The whole team/game is played further up the pitch with the new keeper due to his style and kicking ability.
It`s funny how an on loan player with such strengths can dictate how a team plays. Especially when he won`t be here permanently
Our best performances, in my opinion were against Ayr and Raith, and in between we beat East Fife. Tobi played in all those 3 matches. Mehmet came back in against Partick.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 21:57
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 21:38
It’s not really changing how the back line plays tho.
Yeah, it’s moved us much further up the park but how we’re setting up defensively hasn’t really changed. We’re still not a high pressing team. When they get the ball we still tend to drop back and fall into a formation.
If we had any pace in the backline, we may have tried to be much more high pressing. I actually think young and foggarty look like they may be quick enough but I may be wrong.
No one is talking about a higher defensive press!!
The backline is further up the pitch with the new keeper.
The whole team/game is played further up the pitch with the new keeper due to his style and kicking ability.
It`s funny how an on loan player with such strengths can dictate how a team plays. Especially when he won`t be here permanently
So the backline is still defending like it did before?
COYP
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 22:00
So the backline is still defending like it did before?
NO! They....and the rest of the team are 15-20 yards further up the pitch. Anytime the new keeper has the ball, our back line are STARTING at the halfway line.
When Mehmet has the ball they are between the halfway line and 18 yrd line.
Jesus suffering man....its fundamentals.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 22:01
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 22:00
So the backline is still defending like it did before?
NO! They....and the rest of the team are 15-20 yards further up the pitch. Anytime the new keeper has the ball, our back line are STARTING the halfway line.
When Mehmet has the ball they are between the halfway line and 18 yrd line.
Jesus suffering man....its fundamentals.
So what happens when the other team gets the ball?
COYP
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 22:11
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 22:01
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 22:00
So the backline is still defending like it did before?
NO! They....and the rest of the team are 15-20 yards further up the pitch. Anytime the new keeper has the ball, our back line are STARTING the halfway line.
When Mehmet has the ball they are between the halfway line and 18 yrd line.
Jesus suffering man....its fundamentals.
So what happens when the other team gets the ball?
They are closer to their own goal and further away from ours by default. The whole team is further up the park....and get this....the game is played that wee bit further away from our goal!
All because a keeper can kick a ball the full length of the pitch and is comfortable as a sweeper.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 22:15
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 22:11
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NMCmassive, Sat 5 Oct 22:01
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 22:00
So the backline is still defending like it did before?
NO! They....and the rest of the team are 15-20 yards further up the pitch. Anytime the new keeper has the ball, our back line are STARTING the halfway line.
When Mehmet has the ball they are between the halfway line and 18 yrd line.
Jesus suffering man....its fundamentals.
So what happens when the other team gets the ball?
They are closer to their own goal and further away from ours by default. The whole team is further up the park....and get this....the game is played that wee bit further away from our goal!
All because a keeper can kick a ball the full length of the pitch and is comfortable as a sweeper.
Very good Mike!
Now are we playing a high pressing game or do we prefer to hold a formation and try and contain them?
COYP
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 5 Oct 22:27
Very good Mike!
Now are we playing a high pressing game or do we prefer to hold a formation and try and contain them?
That depends on the situation.
But I don`t know why you are widening the topic of conversation. We are talking about the defensive positioning, not the philosophy.
Press only really works from front to back. So, losing the ball in midfield as the result of a 2nd ball means that a press won`t normally work. Unless you have Kante.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 5 Oct 23:38
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weemike, Sat 5 Oct 22:27
Very good Mike!
Now are we playing a high pressing game or do we prefer to hold a formation and try and contain them?
That depends on the situation.
But I don`t know why you are widening the topic of conversation. We are talking about the defensive positioning, not the philosophy.
Press only really works from front to back. So, losing the ball in midfield as the result of a 2nd ball means that a press won`t normally work. Unless you have Kante.
I’m not widening the topic of conversation, I’m talking about defensive positioning. The defensive strategy hasn’t changed.
COYP
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 6 Oct 06:37
Anyone who says our players were "excellent" yesterday is clutching at straws. Hamilton was probably our best player but he was far from excellent. Yesterday was another poor performance with our only threat being the penalty. We looked like relegation candidates at the start of the season and there is no evidence after the 8 league games to change my mind.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sun 6 Oct 12:29
The build up to their goal out on the wing was poor. Again we won the ball but put it out of play. We thought at the time they stole a ridiculous amount of yards with their throw and they did - but got away with it.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 6 Oct 13:27
I didn`t see the goal as the fault of Deniz. There were three Pars players ball watching in the box with the Airdrie player in acres of space at the back post.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 6 Oct 14:19
As a collective it`s another ball into the box that we haven`t dealt with obviously didn`t learn from last week.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 6 Oct 15:05
I thought our two best players yesterday were Chris Hamilton and Ewan Otoo and I had the opportunity to tell Ewan that this morning because I met him and two friends walking down Kelvinhaugh Street, in Glasgow. Think he was slightly surprised to meet a Par there.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 6 Oct 16:51
McPake had a couple of selection headaches – no Tobi, no Ngwenya, no Bene, no McCann; Breen, the Tod brothers, the younger Sutherland, McLeod, Hoggan and Rowe all away on loan. Some of the solutions were obvious; others less so.
I think there are some truisms about selection:
Young players (pun intended) are inconsistent – they come into the side and look promising, make a couple of errors then are rested to learn and come back better;
Competition for places should force an improvement in performance;
It can take players a little time to regain match sharpness after a spell out, so Todd, Dapo and Clay might not last the 90;
And often there is clamour to start players who came on in the last game and looked good for 15 minutes against a tiring team sitting back and defending a lead. Do they deserve a start? (It’s a different ball game after all.)
So Hamilton and Otoo started the back, Todd got the nod on the right, KRH started on the left, and Clay and Chalmers were in the middle, presumably with the former doing the running and ball-winning leaving Chalmers to do the passing. Ahead of them came WIghton – a bit deeper than he might be used to, but potentially useful.
I thought there were noticeable differences in our play – maybe subtle, but an improvement in attitude – less faffing about at the back (I noticed Mehmet taking charge a couple of times and insisting on the long ball), Chalmers seemed faster in thought and action, although his natural instinct is still to pause and look for a pass, and Wighton played some nice dinks into the box, one of which led to the penalty.
Todd made one or two nice runs, but KRH seemed a little on his heels with our best (virtually only) chance of the second half.
Kane going off was a big loss – he puts defences under pressure and it seemed odd to put Spoony on instead of Taylor although the latter got a run-out eventually. Suddenly we lacked a bit of height (Dapo seems a very small 6 foot 2 from a distance)
Airdrie were more insistent on building from their own 6 yard box – when it works, it looks good – there was one move in particular where they worked the ball down the park; I’m not convinced it’s a sensible tactic at this level – it seems more like an attempt to mimic world class players, and we did put them under pressure.
It was another bad goal to lose – where was everyone? Someone in front of me was bellowing for Comrie to cover the wide player – in my view he correctly chose the player in the 6 yard box, so Hancock was left on his own. Mehmet hesitated a fraction, I thought; perhaps if you ask a forward to anticipate a mistake, then you should ask the same of a keeper, but I think it is better for him to act as if he has a reliable defence in front of him. The back-post problem seemed to affect us at the other end of the pitch as well – several times we put a ball in deep but there was no-one there….
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 6 Oct 16:54
In conclusion I think the point suits us more than it does Airdrie – we look more like a relegation play-off team rather than a bottom of the table one, but in a tight division someone’s got to finish last.
As Socks hints it may be difficult to change the habits of a lifetime overnight – we are showing more forward intent and more urgency but improvement is a bit glacial, like going from a 5/10 to a 5.2/10 rather than the 7 or 8 we are looking for.
Should we bin the manager? It’s an expensive way to introduce a new broom, but something has to change. It is said that sometimes something as simple as changing the colour of the paint on the walls can improve productivity in an office environment. I’d change back to black shorts (it’s probably against the kit regulations); perhaps Dapo can provide the catalyst. We need a spark from somewhere.
Meanwhile, it’s Kelty next week who are 2 places below us in the pyramid and on the back of a big win in Dumfries. I’d make them favourites right now, but another defeat could spell curtains for the gaffer.
Finally – any news on the lad that was stretchered out before kick-off?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 6 Oct 17:40
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McCaig`s Tower, Sun 6 Oct 16:54
In conclusion I think the point suits us more than it does Airdrie – we look more like a relegation play-off team rather than a bottom of the table one, but in a tight division someone’s got to finish last.
As Socks hints it may be difficult to change the habits of a lifetime overnight – we are showing more forward intent and more urgency but improvement is a bit glacial, like going from a 5/10 to a 5.2/10 rather than the 7 or 8 we are looking for.
Should we bin the manager? It’s an expensive way to introduce a new broom, but something has to change. It is said that sometimes something as simple as changing the colour of the paint on the walls can improve productivity in an office environment. I’d change back to black shorts (it’s probably against the kit regulations); perhaps Dapo can provide the catalyst. We need a spark from somewhere.
Meanwhile, it’s Kelty next week who are 2 places below us in the pyramid and on the back of a big win in Dumfries. I’d make them favourites right now, but another defeat could spell curtains for the gaffer.
Finally – any news on the lad that was stretchered out before kick-off?
If we get beat at home again off a league 1 team he better be sacked by the end of the day.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 6 Oct 17:43
Or what?
He won`t be sacked til the new owners are in.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 6 Oct 18:01
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da_no_1, Sun 6 Oct 17:43
Or what?
He won`t be sacked til the new owners are in.
Do we have new owners yet ? Nope.... As I`ve said above it will cost our actual owners more if and more likely when we get relegated than it will to keep him as he is completely out of his depth and so is his team.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 6 Oct 19:50
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cammypar 1995, Sun 6 Oct 18:01
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da_no_1, Sun 6 Oct 17:43
Or what?
He won`t be sacked til the new owners are in.
Do we have new owners yet ? Nope.... As I`ve said above it will cost our actual owners more if and more likely when we get relegated than it will to keep him as he is completely out of his depth and so is his team.
I don`t know if you`re agreeing with me or not.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 6 Oct 20:03
If we get beat of Kelty at EEP McPake should walk as that is embarrassing…if he doesn’t walk then should be told to resign.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 6 Oct 20:45
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Alter Ego, Sun 6 Oct 20:03
If we get beat of Kelty at EEP McPake should walk as that is embarrassing…if he doesn’t walk then should be told to resign.
Great idea......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sun 6 Oct 20:48
We play Championship teams though, cammypar and AE; Kelty play League one teams, which might have a bearing on why they look good. They maybe wouldn`t be doing any better than us or Airdrie in the Champ. Therefore .... I`m no even gonny say it - fingers, toes, legs, eyes, my heart, you name it everything I can cross is crossed - that we beat Kelty.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sun 6 Oct 21:03
Mcpake will probably play a mixture of first teamers and those on the fringes ,to get their minutes topped up ,sick of hearing that phrase, and lose to kelty , but the narrative of not being a first choice will buy him more time .
That and the lack of money to pay him off .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 6 Oct 21:19
He said after yesterday`s game that he wanted us to progress in the Challenge Cup. Apparently the prize money is decent this season.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 6 Oct 21:27
We should be beating teams in league 1. We are a championship side and there will be no excuses if that team doesn’t win…Jesus what a joke of a club we have become..where is Cook? May aswell call us Dunfermline Snowflake FC…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 6 Oct 21:57
Wise words...
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 7 Oct 06:30
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wee eck, Sun 6 Oct 21:19
He said after yesterday`s game that he wanted us to progress in the Challenge Cup. Apparently the prize money is decent this season.
But the BOD also mentioned tmwe wanted to be competitive in all cups how has this worked for us so far ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 7 Oct 07:40
Lose to kelty and he should be absolutely hounded out the door.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Mon 7 Oct 07:48
Be amazed if it`s anything other than a full strength team - from those who are available - next week given the situation we are in.
Regarding the guy who was hit with the ball in the warmup on Saturday.
He was knocked out cold and went into a seizure as a result. Taken to hospital and checked and all OK now thankfully. Must say the Airdrie medical staff and first aiders were over in a flash and no messing about so much credit to them.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 7 Oct 08:07
I`m just reporting what McPake said. It wasn`t a prediction from either me or him.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 7 Oct 08:09
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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Mon 7 Oct 07:48
Be amazed if it`s anything other than a full strength team - from those who are available - next week given the situation we are in.
Regarding the guy who was hit with the ball in the warmup on Saturday.
He was knocked out cold and went into a seizure as a result. Taken to hospital and checked and all OK now thankfully. Must say the Airdrie medical staff and first aiders were over in a flash and no messing about so much credit to them.
Mcpake hinted at giving others game time to "top up their minutes" in his post match interview on Saturday. Id also be amazing considering we are not playing until 7 days after so it`s not like we need to look after players etc as some do if they play Saturday Wednesday.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 7 Oct 13:25
Kelty will be on a high after skelping the Doonhamers 5-1 on Saturday
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 7 Oct 14:26
They`re top of League 1 now but it`s pretty tight with only 2 points separating the top five. Although they`ve won their last two games they lost the two before that and drew the two before them.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 7 Oct 15:32
McPake would be mad to play anything but his strongest team against Kelty, given we find it so difficult to beat anyone at the moment. The trouble is, I don`t think he has a clue what his strongest team is.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 8 Oct 08:43
Surely for mcpake the strongest team is the one which gives us the best chance for a clean sheet.
Post Edited (Tue 08 Oct 10:43)
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