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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 18 Oct 18:22
Good promotion the club are running for the livi game. Might upset the season ticket holders though.
One free ticket with any adult or concession ticket purchased.
Will be interesting if it adds anything to the gate given how we approach game, current performances and our subsequent league position.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Stevie d
Date: Fri 18 Oct 18:35
Season ticket holders fleeced yet again š”
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Fri 18 Oct 18:38
Quote:
Stevie d, Fri 18 Oct 18:35
Season ticket holders fleeced yet again š”
Not sure about being fleeced , but I do feel we`re being taken for granted . Think it`ll be game by game for me next season .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 18 Oct 19:07
Quote:
Parsweep, Fri 18 Oct 18:38
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Stevie d, Fri 18 Oct 18:35
Season ticket holders fleeced yet again š”
Not sure about being fleeced , but I do feel we`re being taken for granted . Think it`ll be game by game for me next season .
Iām starting to think about that myself. Basically throwing Ā£400 at the club every year plus all the strips etc for the kids and itās increasing feeling like itās taken for granted.
That being said, Livi arenāt exactly a well supported club so itās probably a good game to choose for some sort of promotion to get as many seats filled as possible š¤·š»āāļø
COYP
Post Edited (Fri 18 Oct 19:08)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 18 Oct 19:08
I understand the reason for trying this, but itās a slap in the face for season ticket holders.
Why not allow a season ticket holder to bring along a friend for free as well?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Fri 18 Oct 19:09)
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Fri 18 Oct 19:21
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Raymie the Legend, Fri 18 Oct 19:08
I understand the reason for trying this, but itās a slap in the face for season ticket holders.
Why not allow a season ticket holder to bring along a friend for free as well?
That would be the obvious solution. I bet they amend the offer to include this.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 18 Oct 19:35
Would that not result in potential walk-ups finding an ST holder to get them in for free and there would be virtually no tickets sold for the game?
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 18 Oct 20:30
An interesting idea, not unlike the "buy one get one free" sometimes offered by supermarkets.
I can well understand that some ST holders will feel irked by this development, that their loyalty is taken for granted. I can also understand the club`s position; an evening game against poorly supported opposition is perhaps an ideal opportunity to get some extra fans along with this tempting promotion. The club will also hope that those extra folk who do come along will enjoy the game sufficiently to come again, paying the full walk-up price.
I don`t want to get all religious, but this reminds me of the Workers in the Vineyards parable Jesus told his followers. In the story, a vineyard owner hires workers from 6 am, 9 am, 12 pm, 3 pm, and 5 pm. At 6 pm, he arranges for every worker to be paid the same (1 dinar). Naturally, those who put in a 12 hour shift are more than a tad upset. The vineyard owner gently reminds them that they were all happy to work for that sum when he approached them.
Translate this into the Pars promotion, and we come up with this;
What skin is it off any ST holder`s nose if another fan gets in for a bargain price for a single game? Your ST hasn`t gone up in price, and presumably, you were happy to pay the asking price. I`m not trying to be a smartass here - just presenting a different way of looking at it.
I think Raymie`s suggestion that ST holders should be given a free ticket for the game has a lot of merit and would immediately diffuse any anger among ST holders. The last thing the club can afford to do is to alienate its most loyal fans. It will be interesting to see if this deserving suggestion is adopted.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Fri 18 Oct 20:33)
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Fri 18 Oct 20:38
Sensible take as ever GG. The Bible ain`t necessarily always wrong headed ... although it often is. Put me in the non disgruntled ST holder column.
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Topic Originator: Stevie d
Date: Fri 18 Oct 21:48
What about last season and the season before when they reduced walk up prices for some games. More kicks in the teeth there.
Season tickets still go up every season.
Not even the offer of a free pie or something to appease fans somehow. Yes there`s early bird for ST holders but not everyone can take that up.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 18 Oct 22:14
Was there an early bid offer this season? I don`t remember one. People have the choice to do what they like. I`ve already missed one home game this season but I don`t regret buying a ST. It helps the club having cash upfront.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 19 Oct 06:32
Tricky one. I can see why ST holders are irked, but we know the club needs money and needs to try things to get new bums on seats.
There isn`t a lot more they can do, is there?
Hopefully, folk will invite new blood along, we get a good result, and they return with their cash.
It is no different to Sky offering deals to new customers. Of course, most folk will pair up and save cash.
I always see buying season tickets as a way for fans to put immediate cash in the coffers to fund new signings.
Saving a few quid is a bonus.
I think a professional commercial manager should be able to come up with some more incentives though.
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 06:33)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 19 Oct 07:32
As a non-disgruntled ST holder Iām happy for the club to do this for the reasons stated above.
A goodwill gesture would have been nice but ultimately the club are trying what they can to increase the footfall, Iām all for that
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Sat 19 Oct 07:36
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Stevie d, Fri 18 Oct 21:48
Yes there`s early bird for ST holders but not everyone can take that up.
Thereās not been an āearly birdā price for years. The club are happy for season tickets to buy, then just ignore them for 12 months until itās time to renew again. This has been the case for years. As a business, itās incredible how little Dunfermline Athletic have cared for its customers ever since GmbH took over, I thought this may change now, but apparently not.
If you miss just one game, youāre really struggling to get any value for money with a season ticket as it is, running discounts/offers for others and not season ticket holders is a real slap in the face.
Even saying season ticket holders can bring a friend for 50% off (which is the equivalent price of a ticket in a buy one get one free deal) would have made sense. Instead, theyāve looked at season ticket holders and just said āf*** themā.
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 07:39)
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 19 Oct 07:50
As a season ticket holder Iām not that arsed either. More concerned with how pihs we are. Can give away tickets till end of season if we start winning matches.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 19 Oct 08:35
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DJAS, Sat 19 Oct 07:50
As a season ticket holder Iām not that arsed either. More concerned with how pihs we are. Can give away tickets till end of season if we start winning matches.
This
Most folk will have far more things to worry about than free tickets to a championship game.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 19 Oct 08:44
Yes, I agree with the above. At the moment we have bigger issues on the pitch to address. If the incentive boosts the home crowd & this helps the team ā¦. Fine by me.
ā.........it aināt over till the Pars score!ā
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 08:47
I think itās a great idea, this season my son and I donāt have season tickets as I couldnāt afford them at the time of sale. But with this offer Iām now going to attend this match that I wouldnāt have done before. I think the idea behind it is to bring in more walk up fans who maybe havenāt attended any games yet. Not helped by our table position.
Over the last 5 years or so the season ticket has less of advantage, miss a couple of games through working, holidays or a game changed to a Friday and you really lost any saving you had made. The thing I liked most about the season ticket was sitting in the same seat each match.
Maybe they will do a season ticket holders bring a friend to the match for free game later in the season, you could argue they may of had this offer first but then this wouldnāt make the club as much possibly.
Iām sue there will be plenty of spare seats for extra bums to go on and a few season ticket holders that have given up on this season already.
At the end of the day the club need to make money, football clubs are businesses.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 19 Oct 08:50
Thought Season Ticket holders got perks to having a season ticket that others didnāt get?
Now some moaning that others are getting a perk, that they still actually have to pay forā¦ā¦.unreal š
ETA having an ST holder ābring someone for freeā damages the club a lot more than this initiative as thats walk ups that get in for free rather than paying at least half priceā¦ā¦
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 08:52)
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:13
Itās also a Champions League night as well, so the offer might just get a few folk out watching the Pars instead of sitting on the couch.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:21
There`s actually an offer available for today`s game which doesn`t seem to have attracted any comments on here -
`Join us for the final weekend of the October holidays as we welcome Greenock Morton to KDM Group East End Park on Saturday 19th October ā 3pm.
We have a special family pass promo for those of you looking for something to do before the schools go back. This is an online exclusive, available for two adults and two under 12s for the Norrie McCathie stand.
Simply buy your two adult tickets & get the two under 12 tickets for free ā saving Ā£18 on the total walk up price!
To take advantage of this offer, click the link to buy your tickets and select Adult Ticket (family pass) and U12 ticket (family pass) to redeem your special offer. Additional tickets can also be purchased at the same time.
If you require further assistance please email shop@dafc.co.uk
Please note any under 12s must be accompanied by an adult to enter the stadium.`
The commercial manager could be accused of not doing his job if he didn`t come up with these incentives.
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:32
Itās good to see the club is being proactive on trying to get people to come along to see the Pars.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:41
Maybe they could give a voucher to existing season ticket holders who turn up on the day that gives them a slight discount for next year`s season ticket? That way the club aren`t going to miss out on any cash on the day, it isn`t going to alienate season ticket holders and may encourage more to buy next season helping retention? I`m not currently a season ticket holder but just a thought.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:47
I don`t mind offers like this as a season ticket holder myself, although really the season ticket doesn`t represent good value these days anyway - gone are the days when missing a game or two still meant you gained overall, now if you miss just one it seems like paying at the gate would have saved you money. When you think back to what a season ticket used to be - saving a good whack on paying weekly, entry to reserve and youth games, the first cup game, money off at the club shop, first dibs on away tickets etc. - then it shows how little season tickets represent value these days. This isn`t a unique to Dunfermline problem mind you. In England in particular clubs know they`ll get more money from day trippers buying individual tickets so have done a lot to p*** off season ticket holders, like getting rid of certain concessions, moving season ticket areas to sections with a poorer view to sell more premium tickets, etc. I think season tickets may become a thing of the past in the near future.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 19 Oct 09:51
Presumably this offer is also open to visiting supporters ?
Livi fans will be happy at the prospect of effectively getting into an away game for 1/2 price.
I wonder if the deal will be reciprocated when we go to Almondvale, or whatever it`s called now ?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:03
Suppose it depends what the driver was for buying your season ticket.
If it was to up front support the club with finances or for the cost saving it brings (should bring) throughout the season.
If the latter I see why folk are getting disgruntled, itās barely value for money right now, miss a game or two and youāre just as well PATG and would work out better when they start throwing these offers out.
Canāt fault the club for trying to generate business but I agree that theyāve omitted ST holders in this, if the amount of holders brought a pal, and just a small % keep coming itās a nice win so feels like a missed opportunity.
Just seen Kelty response which basically covered my points, good timing!
Other than not sure I agree that STs will be a thing of the past, not for clubs at our level and in Scottish football in general, the upfront income is too precious.
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 10:05)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:13
One suggestion that might appease disgruntled ST holders - offer them a free ticket for the next cup competion match at home ?
Only drawback is that we might pull an away game - and over recent seasons that`s been as far as cup runs have taken us.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:17
Midweek game, team are absolutely honking to watch at the moment and up against an opponent that will have the worst away support this season perhaps Hamilton aside.
Club need to try something to get folk in but i can see why folks are a bit peeved off.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:19
As a fully paid-up season ticket-holder in the South Stand I almost choked on my barley sugar when I realised that today`s offer is only available in the Norrie McCathie Stand. How are the club going to rectify this bias? I would suggest leaving a free bag of Werther`s Originals on each seat in the main stand at a home game between now and the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: 45YearPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:29
Tried to buy a ticket for my usual ST seat but it has been sold! I thought one of the perks of having a season ticket was to have priority for cup games. I am not happy. Did I miss something?
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Topic Originator: parsmad123
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:39
Itās not a cup game?
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:41
Quote:
45YearPar, Sat 19 Oct 10:29
Tried to buy a ticket for my usual ST seat but it has been sold! I thought one of the perks of having a season ticket was to have priority for cup games. I am not happy. Did I miss something?
Hoping you are joking. Itās a league game therefore the seat has been soldā¦.. to you.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 10:48)
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:47
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 19 Oct 09:21
There`s actually an offer available for today`s game which doesn`t seem to have attracted any comments on here -
`Join us for the final weekend of the October holidays as we welcome Greenock Morton to KDM Group East End Park on Saturday 19th October ā 3pm.
We have a special family pass promo for those of you looking for something to do before the schools go back. This is an online exclusive, available for two adults and two under 12s for the Norrie McCathie stand.
Simply buy your two adult tickets & get the two under 12 tickets for free ā saving Ā£18 on the total walk up price!
To take advantage of this offer, click the link to buy your tickets and select Adult Ticket (family pass) and U12 ticket (family pass) to redeem your special offer. Additional tickets can also be purchased at the same time.
If you require further assistance please email shop@dafc.co.uk
Please note any under 12s must be accompanied by an adult to enter the stadium.`
The commercial manager could be accused of not doing his job if he didn`t come up with these incentives.
I`ve used that today to bring the full clan.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:56
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 19 Oct 10:13
One suggestion that might appease disgruntled ST holders - offer them a free ticket for the next cup competion match at home ?
Only drawback is that we might pull an away game - and over recent seasons that`s been as far as cup runs have taken us.
The fact that gate receipts for cup ties are shared could pose problems with that suggestion unless the opposition agreed?
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Topic Originator: sintv
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:58
I`m not bothered about someone getting in free but as a season ticket holder, I think we should get into league cup or challenge cup games free as part of our season ticket. Games are sparsely attended anyway. Don`t think I`ll get one next season as, miss a game or 2, and any price benefit has gone.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 10:59
One problem that would happen is say Iām in the north west stand and itās currently sold out (itās not) there would be no room for the plus one.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 19 Oct 11:14
Over the years , the incentives to buying a ST have dwindled, and with games being switched for tv purposes, making it difficult for some ST holders to attend , I`d say the best value these days , is just to pay match by match .
I understand about the money up front from ST sales supposedly helping with the managers player budget , but there`s not been much evidence of ST money helping with that over the last few seasons .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 19 Oct 11:31
Like when itās also cheaper for a non season ticket holder to attend hospitality than someone with a season ticket. Price difference is only like Ā£15 and the price of a matchday ticket is now Ā£22/23
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 19 Oct 11:44
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 19 Oct 09:51
Presumably this offer is also open to visiting supporters ?
Livi fans will be happy at the prospect of effectively getting into an away game for 1/2 price.
I wonder if the deal will be reciprocated when we go to Almondvale, or whatever it`s called now ?
Iāve never heard of away fans also getting a promo thatās designed for home fans.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 19 Oct 11:47
Honestly think if the just included a couple of early cup rounds youād probably appease most ST holders.
The main reason I like my ST is I like where I sit. If I didnāt have my ST Iād need to get there early every week and make sure I stood there and didnāt move š
COYP
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:05
No objections to this initiative if its bringing along a few extra fans who might come back if they like what they see hopefully we can up our performance level COYP
G.B
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:18
"Iāve never heard of away fans also getting a promo thatās designed for home fans."
I assumed it applied to all PATG fans ?
If not, Livi supporters might be tempted to go into home parts of the ground ?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:31
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 19 Oct 12:18
"Iāve never heard of away fans also getting a promo thatās designed for home fans."
I assumed it applied to all PATG fans ?
If not, Livi supporters might be tempted to go into home parts of the ground ?
Highly doubtful
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: 45YearPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:44
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 12:46)
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Topic Originator: 45YearPar
Date: Sat 19 Oct 12:51
Oh bugger, I had in my head that this was a Challenge Cup game! Doh!
Must engage brain first.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 19 Oct 13:29
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45YearPar, Sat 19 Oct 12:51
Oh bugger, I had in my head that this was a Challenge Cup game! Doh!
Must engage brain first.
Yeah, but did you buy another one?
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
Post Edited (Sat 19 Oct 14:37)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 19 Oct 13:37
Used to get some good deals with the season tickets as well.
Do you still get a complimentary one if you buy a car at the Macklin Motors next door?
You get a discount on SRJ although could argue they are more expensive than others to start with.
Discount in the shops, free entry to the reserve games, used to have a good link up with the Fife Flyers.
Thereās a lot more we can do and perhaps reintroduce to make these kind of offers to non ST holders more palatableā¦by making the STās more value for money.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 21 Oct 18:14
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 19 Oct 11:44
Iāve never heard of away fans also getting a promo thatās designed for home fans.
Happens all the time, as SPFL rules state that away fans have to have access to the same deal/prices as home fans buying single tickets. As a result, any ākids for a quidā or buy one get one free type offers have to be made available for both sets of fans.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 21 Oct 18:29
It`s a hard one for the club to get right. Season tickets are on the rise with more and more fans deciding to PATG instead of buying a season ticket.
If fans do this they might decide against going if it`s freezing and the team are in the form they are at present and the club take the hit. But if they give them away too cheap will you lose more from PATG it`s a tough act to get right.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 21 Oct 20:28
Jesus watching that team on a Saturday makes you depressed and why make your week even worse by watching them on a Tuesday! No wonder they are putting a deal on to try and get folk inā¦.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 21 Oct 21:43
Tell you what`s depressing. The same folk posting the same tripe on every thread. Have a day off min.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 21 Oct 22:16
Come on then do no 1 give us your positive approach to get the fans to EEP on Tuesdayā¦Will we be there to see attacking football and play to win??
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 21 Oct 22:18
They played to win on Saturday.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Mon 21 Oct 22:21
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 21 Oct 20:28
Jesus watching that team on a Saturday makes you depressed and why make your week even worse by watching them on a Tuesday! No wonder they are putting a deal on to try and get folk inā¦.
I didn`t feel depressed by going on Saturday. It wasn`t a great result or even that great a game but you cannae let the fortunes of a provincial sports team dictate your emotions. I still had a nice day out with the family. Seriously, if the football makes you depressed then do something else.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 21 Oct 22:31
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 21 Oct 22:16
Come on then do no 1 give us your positive approach to get the fans to EEP on Tuesdayā¦Will we be there to see attacking football and play to win??
Are you going?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Tue 22 Oct 06:56
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 19 Oct 11:47
Honestly think if the just included a couple of early cup rounds youād probably appease most ST holders.
The main reason I like my ST is I like where I sit. If I didnāt have my ST Iād need to get there early every week and make sure I stood there and didnāt move š
I am the same as yourself about liking where I sit, but if we continue like this, it is a death by 1000 cuts and I have plenty of other things to do on a Saturday.
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Tue 22 Oct 12:33
As a season ticket holder Iām not bothered by this - I hope it increases the crowd and brings in more income - not sure about this though - eg 2 fans who attend most games and pay full whack - will they do the same and bring 2 others along or will they just come along as usual and just one pay?
At the end of the day our home support is very healthy considering what weāve been served up the last couple of seasons - imagine what the crowd would be like if weād started like Falkirk.
Andy
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