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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:20
Who can we even look at bringing in? There’s no standout names and I can’t say we are the most appealing job right now…
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:21
Quote:
13en, Mon 23 Dec 10:20
Who can we even look at bringing in? There’s no standout names and I can’t say we are the most appealing job right now…
Ian McCall
Ian Murray
Rhys McCabe
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:22
Rhys McCabe ... No thanks.
I think it`s time to look outside the box, hope the new owners have a ace up their sleeve, no better time to get the deal completed and get on with rebuilding the club
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:29
I’m not sure how much the new owners know about football in the Scottish championship?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:41
Stevie Naismith or Billy Reid for me.
Both want back in the game. Surely things can't get any worse which enhances their own professional stock as well
C'mon Ye Pars!
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 10:46)
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:45
Lennon?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 23 Dec 10:54
Yeah McCabe has likely crashed his chances of moving up after this season, been about as good as mcpake in the market last summer by the looks of it.
The new guys are into stats etc so might see a total leftfield appointment coming in.
It would be refreshing to see a new man come in and sign a player who is better than what we have, I’ve missed that.
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 11:06)
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Topic Originator: dafc123
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:02
Keep the clearance going. Local directors ETC
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:15
What is it with some of our fans who think because they were ex players they should be our manager? I’ve seen Bene touted (zero experience), Cardle (zero experience) Crawford (been there twice and remember the guff we had) amongst others.
Cmon guys if ever there was a time to bring in someone with experience and maybe get off the Scottish manager merry go round then this is it! We have a team lacking in direction, belief and a cutting edge. We need someone who can bring that motivation, who knows players and can use the facilities and personal ability to attract the right (and possibly higher) calibre players, and who knows how to capture fans imagination by making us play attractive penetrating football again.
This is not the time for trying out newbies and former players who haven’t done anything in this league or higher!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:24
I don`t know about management, but Cardle is an excellent coach. I used to see him a lot when the wee man was doing football at Duloch and his attention to detail was impressive. You could see him picking up on tiny details of what the player being coached was doing.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:37
Quote:
ParfectXI, Mon 23 Dec 11:15
This is not the time for trying out newbies and former players who haven’t done anything in this league or higher!
Agreed. Get the bunnet in and we’d start picking up points.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:39
Quote:
RMGpar, Mon 23 Dec 10:45
Lennon?
Sean or Yoko?
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Topic Originator: 2004Par
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:43
Hopefully get in someone with good experience, knows how to take a team out of a rut and turn it round because we are pretty much in a relegation battle as it stands. Although this is a hard ask.
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 11:43)
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 23 Dec 11:53
"What is it with some of our fans who think because they were ex players they should be our manager? I’ve seen Bene touted (zero experience), Cardle (zero experience) Crawford (been there twice and remember the guff we had) amongst others."
Where are you seeing these names bandied about? The only places I`ve seen Benedictus mentioned are as an interim (as often senior players will step up if the assistant and coaches also leave), and from folk saying that Cardle seems a good coach and that Crawford had an eye for a player. Don`t think anyone has suggested them as legitimate potential replacements?
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:29
I think it’s experience that’s needed but wouldn’t be surprised if Gordon Forrest is mentioned. Local and known to the home board.
Don’t think it’s time for a new brand of Football, it’s time to pick up points.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:30
Ian Murray for me. A big fat NO for McCabe
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:33
What`s Jack Ross doing?
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:34
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 23 Dec 12:33
What`s Jack Ross doing?
Academy at Newcastle, no way we could match wages
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:44
Billy Davies or Darren Young?
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:50
Houdini applications please because we need a magician to turn this around.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 23 Dec 12:51
Can`t believe we`re even mentioning McCall or McCabe. The former having been sacked twice in two years and the latter probably with the worst record in British football this year. How about my pal Graham Alexander, he`s about to be sacked again by Bradford City. Just hope whatever happens that the players respond positively to the situation.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 23 Dec 13:00
As long as we get someone who actually applies for the job it`s a step in the right direction. Hopefully cook is nowhere near the process or anyone else who has been involved in the past failures.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 23 Dec 13:02
As for Lennon. John`s corpse, yes. Neil, no.
It`ll be Murray, someone from within until the end of the season or someone totally leftfield like an English speaking European chap.
The simple fact is that anybody is worth a try, just an 18 month contract though in case it doesn`t work out. He`ll have no money for January signings unless the owners cough up some money.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 23 Dec 13:14
Think the new owners will want to bring 1-2 in next month to help get the fans onside.
we’ll not be able to offload any of the higher earners even on loan until the summer to free up space.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 23 Dec 13:58
Ian Murray is probably the most obvious choice but nothing to say we’ll get him or that he’s interested 🤷🏻♂️
If it wasn’t him who would be available? Billy Davies? The names touted in the paper is basically just a bad google search imo
Barry Robson, Naismith etc have basically shown nothing. As soon as they got free rein over their respective squads and signed their own players - Aberdeen nearly got relegated and Hearts are in a relegation battle this season. (Crichtly or whatever his name is doesn’t seem to be helping tho)
I’d rather we looked at someone that at least held a team steady over a couple of seasons than someone who got pumped out the door as soon as they started signing their own players
COYP
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:05
Give to alex Ferguson for 6 months
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:08
Quote:
thebear, Mon 23 Dec 14:05
Give to alex Ferguson for 6 months
He could maybe talk Scholsey out of retirement until the end of the season
COYP
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:12
The Dunfermline job isn`t an easy one. Managers know you can easily torpedo your career at East End Park.
On the flip side, someone has to get it right eventually but from the names mentioned I do not see many of them wanting the job let alone being the one to do it successfully.
Ian Murray looks like the obvious choice and probably the best fit but hasn`t done much in his career apart from nearly taking a big spending Rovers up.
Someone who actually wants the job might be a big hurdle. I guess being pihs for years doesn`t arrive alone.
TL/DR Ian Murray but not with real enthusiasm.
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 14:13)
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:27
McPake could take over the Rovers and manage to make a right good left back out of Easton and a right back out of Connolly……….
Who ever comes in for McPake. Please some attacking football. Take chances, give fans something to shout about because even when we were winning in the first division our football wasn’t easy on the eye.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:44
Quote:
Jeffery, Mon 23 Dec 12:44
Billy Davies or Darren Young?
Completely agree, both would be excellent appointments
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Topic Originator: Malcolm Canmore
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:52
Pointless thread. A new buyer of the club will have a major say in the decision and will have his own ideas about the replacement.
My dog eats meat
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 23 Dec 15:05
New owners will already have their own guy lined up to take over, once the take over is announced.
They have probably been planning for weeks and finding who they want to go with.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 23 Dec 15:06
next man in will depend on how close the new investors are to completing. Either its close and have a say and next man is their man starting to get things going or its a while off and we are scraping the barrel of short term appointments from out of contract options etc.
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Topic Originator: maradona86
Date: Mon 23 Dec 15:39
Billy Davies or Tam Courts
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:01
Just putting this out there but would anyone take Owen Coyle?
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:09
Billy Davies has been without employment since 2014. Why does his name continue to resurface? The football landscape has evolved significantly since his tenure. Personally, I would consider Ian Murray, given his current unemployment. However, I suspect the new owners are poised to enter the scene with a candidate already in mind. I have strong optimism regarding the new investment, heralding a new year, a fresh manager, and new players entering the January transfer window. 2025 is going to be a better year for us fans.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:15
I volunteer Marv to dae it. She’ll no stand for any nonsense fae the first or last eleven! Soup at half time and a skelp roond the lugs at FT if nae goals.
Oor Tracey and I will be the magic sponge bearers.
😊
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:17
Just seen Tam Courts
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:22
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Mon 23 Dec 16:09
Billy Davies has been without employment since 2014. Why does his name continue to resurface? The football landscape has evolved significantly since his tenure. Personally, I would consider Ian Murray, given his current unemployment. However, I suspect the new owners are poised to enter the scene with a candidate already in mind. I have strong optimism regarding the new investment, heralding a new year, a fresh manager, and new players entering the January transfer window. 2025 is going to be a better year for us fans.
He’s openly stated that’s he’s ready to return to management. Seems to have kept up with the modern way of working in football. I think he’d be a great choice.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:34
He’s openly stated that’s he’s ready to return to management. Seems to have kept up with the modern way of working in football. I think he’d be a great choice.
He has been unemployed for a decade. Surely there must be an underlying reason for his prolonged absence from managing? A position within the club could potentially be beneficial, but as a manager, I cannot support that notion. Nonetheless, we are all entitled to our perspectives and the rationale behind them.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:37
Davies has a great football pedigree. The doubts about him seem to relate to his behaviour at his last stint with Forest when he was being accused of irrational behaviour. If that was no longer an issue, he may be a good choice. Surely our new owners already have people in mind though.
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:40
Robbie Raeside. He`d be worth a punt.
KOZMA
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 17:07)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:52
It’s time we gave Dick Campbell another shot at it even for a short term to get us motivated again.
He can slavour a lot of sh1te but he’s good at it with young players.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 16:57
Quote:
CrossPar, Mon 23 Dec 16:37
Davies has a great football pedigree. The doubts about him seem to relate to his behaviour at his last stint with Forest when he was being accused of irrational behaviour. If that was no longer an issue, he may be a good choice. Surely our new owners already have people in mind though.
He`s had irrational behaviour every since he`s been involved in football, when he had the right players, they worked for him, but if something went wrong, he turned on them quite quickly
Very good football brain but very very bad man management......
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 23 Dec 17:22
Quote:
Alf, Mon 23 Dec 16:17
Just seen Tam Courts
What channel?
COYP
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Topic Originator: 45YearPar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 17:41
Bring in The Bunnet. Local man, gets the best out of players and has unfinished business at EEP!
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Mon 23 Dec 17:44
Lennon would shake things up.
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Topic Originator: parsloyal98
Date: Mon 23 Dec 17:49
I think of all the names being thrown about my preference would be Ian Murray for several reasons
1) Done better than us with a similarly budgeted team in this league - even if they did fall spectacularly short in playoff final and got battered but still closer to the prem than we’ve been in over a decade!
2) Has a point to prove - arguably unfairly sacked by Rovers so will be keen to impress and knows he needs to make amends after adding “sacked” to his CV lately
3) He knows the league - lots of other names thrown about maybe don’t have that experience and that could impact on the kind of signings we make.
4) He beat us to several players whilst at Rovers - Rovers weren’t paying more than most also in for them and sure their league position would have factored in but he’s convincing guys to take less money to be part of his teams cause. Imagine we had Easton, Byrne etc.
I cannot understand people clambering for Billy Davies. Hasn’t worked in a long long time - why is everyone keen on him?
Likes of Naismith and Robson would perhaps fit what we’re looking for in terms of a young coach but they’ve not got much experience - even if it was at prem level. We can’t afford to muck around with relative inexperience and chances are they’d be looking for a higher wage.
The next appointment and I don’t think it can be stressed enough is crucial for our short term and longer term future. Relegation would set us back many years
We love Dunfermline We do!
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:27
Billy Davies with Tommy Sheridan as assistant.
I’ve heard they work well together.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:33
Why would anyone be keen on Billy Davies? Easy, his pedigree is way above our station but due to external factors he may well have to come in this low to prove himself again
Post Edited (Mon 23 Dec 18:33)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:35
Charlie Adam is on his way!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:45
Quote:
AlterPar, Mon 23 Dec 18:35
Charlie Adam is on his way!
i hope not ,not any difference to who we just let go,we need an experienced manager this time
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:54
Given that our potential new owner is into the analytics of sport, I would suspect that it will be someone who is willing to work under these circumstances and may have already been approached.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 23 Dec 19:19
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 23 Dec 18:27
Billy Davies with Tommy Sheridan as assistant.
I’ve heard they work well together.
We couldn’t afford Tommy Sheridan…
COYP
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 23 Dec 19:57
"The Dunfermline job isn`t an easy one. Managers know you can easily torpedo your career at East End Park."
What nonsense. Take a team who should be mid table away from 9th this season and it`s job done. At least look like we are heading for the play offs at the right end next season and it`ll be seen as a success. Seems fairly easy for a competent manager. Do well and you might move upwards, fail and you`ll still likely get another full time gig or a higher end part time one like Arbroath.
Now the Raith job, there is a hard job. Finish second and actually challenge Dundee Utd, but tail away near the end? Sorry, not good enough.
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Mon 23 Dec 20:07
Michael Tidser
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Mon 23 Dec 20:10
Alf,
Tidser would be my choice also.
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Topic Originator: Fromtheterrace
Date: Mon 23 Dec 20:36
Lee Bullen,Dick Campbell ,Joe Cardle as coach??
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 23 Dec 20:39
Quote:
Alf, Mon 23 Dec 20:07
Michael Tidser
Not a bad shout btw
COYP
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 23 Dec 21:09
Tidser could get a game! Sweet left peg
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 23 Dec 21:21
Tidser has had a year and a halves experience in League One and even though they are sitting 2nd they’ve only won 8 games in 18……he’s not what we need right now.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Mon 23 Dec 21:22
Kevin Thomson would be my choice
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Mon 23 Dec 21:45
Kevin Thompson has had a season in the 4th tier of Scottish football then quit. He hasn`t worked since.
Billy Davies is toxic, will leave it there.
Bullen is mentioned because he was a former Pars player. Unfortunately he is a poor manager, we are in a relegation fight.
Job in the bank, job in the bank. Loves working for the bank and managing Montrose.
The Rovers are looking for a new manager, so I guess Murray is our realistic home grown option, unless our new owners get the deal over the line and come in with their own man.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 23 Dec 21:54
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 23 Dec 21:21
Tidser has had a year and a halves experience in League One and even though they are sitting 2nd they’ve only won 8 games in 18……he’s not what we need right now.
Was just about to say this. I’m not saying that Tidser won’t be or isn’t a good manager, but he’s still learning and I honestly don’t think now is the time for us to go down that route. We need someone with a proven record of revolutionising IMHO.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Mon 23 Dec 23:20
I agree, Kelty now average just over 400 fans in an extremely tight league, he has done well, but this is not a job for him, certainly not at this stage.
All the managers come with risk, but we are in a relegation fight, with a very vocal support, this is not a job for a rookie, and it`s not a job for a part time manager looking to trade up ever, they have none of the skills needed and will get eaten alive.
I`m against appointing someone like Bullen or even Barry Robson, start well, but as soon as they got control and their budget to play with were dismal-Ayr were appalling for example. I couldn`t care less if he was a Pars playing legend, I`m looking at for a capable Pars MANAGER.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 23 Dec 23:31
With his track record at Sheffield Wednesday and steering Ayr away from relegation in his first Scottish managerial gig I reckon LB could be just what we need, even just on a short term basis.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 23 Dec 23:36
Lee Bullen? It`s a 100% no from me.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Tue 24 Dec 05:40
Someone who has a very big sweeping brush and not on the usual merry go round ticks my boxes.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 24 Dec 07:21
"So an so would be good on a short-term basis."
What on earth makes any of you think someone would want to come in on a short-term basis?
"Hey, Bunnet, we could use you, but just in the short term. You know, get us out of the **** until we find the man we want. There`s a good chap!"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 24 Dec 07:23
Apart from Ian Murray all those other names are a no. A guy who has been out of the game for over a decade and guys who failed in the league below. we need something different from the usual suspects who get mentioned for every job available. We had that with yogi and we all know how that worked out.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 24 Dec 07:45
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 24 Dec 07:21
"So an so would be good on a short-term basis."
What on earth makes any of you think someone would want to come in on a short-term basis?
"Hey, Bunnet, we could use you, but just in the short term. You know, get us out of the **** until we find the man we want. There`s a good chap!"
Because short term managers, have never been a thing before right enough.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 24 Dec 07:49
I said a couple of months ago that Ian murray was asked about this unofficially and didnt like the way they were going behind mcpakes back about it.. ie.. they way they turned him over at rovers too. Perhaps might nlbe tempted now though with it being a vacant job.
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 24 Dec 08:11
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 24 Dec 07:45
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 24 Dec 07:21
"So an so would be good on a short-term basis."
What on earth makes any of you think someone would want to come in on a short-term basis?
"Hey, Bunnet, we could use you, but just in the short term. You know, get us out of the **** until we find the man we want. There`s a good chap!"
Because short term managers, have never been a thing before right enough.
Apart from players doing it short term, allowing them to show what they can do, in the full knowledge that is what the appointment is about, can you name a decent manager who has willingly taken up a short term gig, knowing he is not considered good enough to retain the position.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 24 Dec 08:23
Ruud van nistelroy
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Tue 24 Dec 10:09
`What nonsense. Take a team who should be mid table away from 9th this season and it`s job done. At least look like we are heading for the play offs at the right end next season and it`ll be seen as a success. Seems fairly easy for a competent manager. Do well and you might move upwards, fail and you`ll still likely get another full time gig or a higher end part time one like Arbroath.`
It isn`t nonsense though.
You`re more likely to be relegated at Dunfermline than promoted. You`re more likely to harm your career at Dunfermline than enhance it. The last decade shows us that.
Come to Dunfermline. if you fail, you might manage a part-time outfit afterward. That`s a positive? Prospective managers take this into account. I hope the new owners have a plan and a guy in mind.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Dec 10:17
Surely almost all clubs are a risk? I can`t think of many clubs a manager can go to and coast it.
I`d argue if you come here and the club gets relegated you get a free pass as you inherited a team sitting in a relegation spot already.
I`d like to see someone new and not from the Scotland manager merry-go-round. Perhaps the new investors (not owners!) have someone in mind. If not, Murray could do the job I think. The problem isn`t so much the manager, but the team. They are capable of winning games but morale is low and there`s clearly dead wood who we can`t let go due to stupidly long contracts. Maybe they could be loaned out?
I also feel we`ve lost some good directors over the past couple of seasons.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Dec 10:52
I`m not a gambler, but why is Murray 6-4 rather than 3-2?
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Tue 24 Dec 10:55
Fully agree with Kelty, it is almost an ideal time to take the job, it shouldn`t be too difficult to improve (at least a little) performances, results and league position. January window coming up, a decent number of players out of contract in the summer as well. We are one of the most underperforming clubs in the country at present. Clearly the ownership is a big question, but even without big changes to the squad, a better manager should get more out of them.
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Tue 24 Dec 11:08
John Hughes thought the same.
Reality might well be different. Let`s see fingers crossed etc.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 24 Dec 11:55
I’d love to see us go after Scott Brown.
He has done a cracking job at Ayr, would be able to attract some players purely based on who he is.
Seems to be able to build a team and get them playing some decent attractive football.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Dec 12:07
Quote:
Doves, Tue 24 Dec 11:08
John Hughes thought the same.
Reality might well be different. Let`s see fingers crossed etc.
Hughes wasn`t exactly a one-off failure. He destroyed his reputation the day he said all the Wee Team players were crap.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 24 Dec 12:27
maybe John Robertson
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Tue 24 Dec 12:38
Callum Davidson would be a good shout. Very good coach, had a small spell with us so knows the club.
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 24 Dec 12:53
Quote:
Kba990309, Tue 24 Dec 12:38
Callum Davidson would be a good shout. Very good coach, had a small spell with us so knows the club.
good call
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 24 Dec 13:31
"Come to Dunfermline. if you fail, you might manage a part-time outfit afterward. That`s a positive?"
Allan Johnstone went to Queen of the South who are full time. Stephen Kenny went back to Ireland and eventually became Orish national team manager. Jim McIntyre managed Ross County. Failing with us doesn`t necessarily mean you go backwards. And surely a manager will be backing themselves not to be a failure?
And if you want to look at other compatible clubs, would you say that the Falkirk job is a hard job? After all Martin Rennie is out of work, Paul Hartley is out of work now after having to go part time, Ray McKinnon is out of work after going part time. How about Inverness, is that a hard job? Billy Dodds is out of work, Duncan Ferguson is out of work, did Ritchie Foran even get another job after leaving them?
I`ve no idea why you want to die on this hill, but it`s clearly a nonsense to suggest that the Dunfermline job is in any way worse than any other job in the middling ranks of Scottish football or that it is in some way an unattractive gig to get because it`s a unique job that can torpedo your career. Football is literally full of people who failed at a club and for one reason or another can`t get another offer elsewhere.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Tue 24 Dec 13:31
Unless it’s a done deal with the new stakeholders arriving then I expect it to be the reserve coach in place with Chalmers /Wotherspoon helping until that happens. If it is imminent they may have someone already pre signed. If they have been party to this I fully expect a curve ball appointment from outside of the merry go round
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:09
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up eventually appointing a name from properly left field. Maybe even someone we don’t know. From the outside the new buyers are looking to do things their way and I don’t know how many in Scottish football will be known to them.
COYP
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:20
Quote:
Kba990309, Tue 24 Dec 12:38
Callum Davidson would be a good shout. Very good coach, had a small spell with us so knows the club.
Hmmm, I have reservations about Calum Davidson. Always judge a manager by his second season. That wasn’t successful at St Johnstone. Last year he was battling relegation with QP. Started well this year but seem to be falling away.
I think Ian Murray is the right man. Got a good record in the championship and hopefully can turn us around quickly.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:23
I tend to agree. It is better financially to work with people you already have within the club. I can see the appointment of a new manager taking a few weeks to by the time the due diligence and recuitment process is worked through. I do wonder how this sits with the club finances considering there will be some sort of compensation. Perhaps the bigger picture is the cost of relegation or any club takeover against the cost of terminating contracts early.
It`s yet another manager really in as many years, so by inference, the issues do not lay wholly at the feet of the management team.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:24
I`m not a gambler, but why is Murray 6-4 rather than 3-2?
I suspect this is partly tradition, and partly people being more used to 6/4 rather than 3/2, in the same way that some people are quicker telling the time with analogue watches than with digital watches.
I think bookies tended to count in eighths and quarters to reflect the way currency was made up of crowns and half-crowns
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:26
Three to two is a bit of a mouthful?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:50
If the new owners do turn out to be the American group, they`ll surely leave any appointment to be made by our CEO and remaining Board members? They are unlikely to be very familiar with the Scottish football landscape and bringing in a coach from the US would be a massive gamble.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 24 Dec 14:54
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 24 Dec 14:50
If the new owners do turn out to be the American group, they`ll surely leave any appointment to be made by our CEO and remaining Board members? They are unlikely to be very familiar with the Scottish football landscape and bringing in a coach from the US would be a massive gamble.
Are they not gamblers 😉
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 24 Dec 15:19
I would be happy with Murry or Davidson.Murry would have the drive and determination to proove he has what it takes in this league.Davisdon I liked when he was with us before ,just my opinion :):)Be interesting to see who has been touted for the posirion may be at the game on Friday
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Topic Originator: halbe
Date: Tue 24 Dec 15:43
Not sure with the league position that everyone will see it is an ideal time to take the managers job. If they are relegated again there is a danger that the new manager despite only being in a for a few months will take some of the blame and might be relying on the pars support seeing the bigger picture.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 24 Dec 16:23
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 24 Dec 14:54
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GG Riva, Tue 24 Dec 14:50
If the new owners do turn out to be the American group, they`ll surely leave any appointment to be made by our CEO and remaining Board members? They are unlikely to be very familiar with the Scottish football landscape and bringing in a coach from the US would be a massive gamble.
Are they not gamblers 😉
🤣😂🤣
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Tue 24 Dec 18:45
Quote:
kelty_par, Tue 24 Dec 13:31
"Come to Dunfermline. if you fail, you might manage a part-time outfit afterward. That`s a positive?"
Allan Johnstone went to Queen of the South who are full time. Stephen Kenny went back to Ireland and eventually became Orish national team manager. Jim McIntyre managed Ross County. Failing with us doesn`t necessarily mean you go backwards. And surely a manager will be backing themselves not to be a failure?
And if you want to look at other compatible clubs, would you say that the Falkirk job is a hard job? After all Martin Rennie is out of work, Paul Hartley is out of work now after having to go part time, Ray McKinnon is out of work after going part time. How about Inverness, is that a hard job? Billy Dodds is out of work, Duncan Ferguson is out of work, did Ritchie Foran even get another job after leaving them?
I`ve no idea why you want to die on this hill, but it`s clearly a nonsense to suggest that the Dunfermline job is in any way worse than any other job in the middling ranks of Scottish football or that it is in some way an unattractive gig to get because it`s a unique job that can torpedo your career. Football is literally full of people who failed at a club and for one reason or another can`t get another offer elsewhere.
Paul Hartley is the current manager of full time Cove Rangers.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 25 Dec 05:52
Quote:
dd23, Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
Robson was already a coach with Aberdeen when he was given the opportunity. He was not an outsider brought in with a backhanded compliment.
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Wed 25 Dec 06:25
Out of left field…. Jimmy Calderwood how many guessed that one ? So here’s hoping we don’t do the usual suspects.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 25 Dec 06:49
Quote:
par-ticular, Wed 25 Dec 06:25
Out of left field…. Jimmy Calderwood how many guessed that one ? So here’s hoping we don’t do the usual suspects.
Imagination often costs money.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Wed 25 Dec 09:24
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 05:52
Quote:
dd23, Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
Robson was already a coach with Aberdeen when he was given the opportunity. He was not an outsider brought in with a backhanded compliment.
You didn’t have that as part of the criteria when you asked your question though. Not that it makes any difference because the example fits the bill for what you were asking.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Wed 25 Dec 09:25
Quote:
par-ticular, Wed 25 Dec 06:25
Out of left field…. Jimmy Calderwood how many guessed that one ? So here’s hoping we don’t do the usual suspects.
David Murray engineered the whole thing mind. . . .
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Topic Originator: vasco
Date: Wed 25 Dec 09:54
Probably Gavin Masterton’s biggest mistakes was getting involved with Murray. One of Scotland’s most dodgy dealers of all time. .
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 25 Dec 13:23
Bob Bradley ex US men`s national coach
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Wed 25 Dec 13:26
I appreciate the comments and I know the financial challenges it ensured, but I don’t think you can deny the excitement of rolling up to watch the pars, under Calderwood or Stein
I have watched the pars since the 60’s watched The Connachan cup final in ‘61, the European games, the fiasco’s of the early 70’s. The managers who couldnae manage their dinner never mind a football team.
I have every confidence we will come good again.
It just takes a little time.
As long as we are still a league football team, playing at EEP. That’s the bottom line.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 25 Dec 14:03
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Wed 25 Dec 13:23
Bob Bradley ex US men`s national coach
I reckon well out of our price range or interest.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Wed 25 Dec 14:05
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Wed 25 Dec 13:23
Bob Bradley ex US men`s national coach
`MEG-NUTS !!`
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 25 Dec 14:20
Merry Christmas Pars fans.
I`m sick of the managerial merry-go-round. Why not try the managerial dodgems or the managerial tower of death for a change.
Anything but the same old names that come up every time. Maybe a no 2 at a decent club looking to try his hand at being the main man. I`m just trying to think outside the box of mediocrity.
"Oooooh,but we can`t take a risk.`
Everyone is a risk. It either works or it doesn`t, that`s the reality of football management.
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Topic Originator: gegganpar
Date: Wed 25 Dec 14:30
Not a fan of Murray as he spent a fortune at linolickers and they`re still bang average.
J angus blacklaws
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 25 Dec 14:54
Quote:
gegganpar, Wed 25 Dec 14:30
Not a fan of Murray as he spent a fortune at linolickers and they`re still bang average.
My only concern about him is the contracts he gave to his ageing ex his team mates, we`ve had enough of that here already!
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Wed 25 Dec 15:04
Hopefully Charlie can tempt a few players from down south and learn from his mistakes
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 25 Dec 17:03
Quote:
dd23, Wed 25 Dec 09:24
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 05:52
Quote:
dd23, Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
Robson was already a coach with Aberdeen when he was given the opportunity. He was not an outsider brought in with a backhanded compliment.
You didn’t have that as part of the criteria when you asked your question though. Not that it makes any difference because the example fits the bill for what you were asking.
I did. Merry Christmas
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 25 Dec 17:09
The Americans in the consortium I`m going
Jürgen Klinsmann
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 25 Dec 20:02
I think it`s time to bring in someone who has experience and done it all before and bought the T shirt. Not sure how the club would fund it given that three managers who have been sacked in as many years.
Maybe time for a different thought process. Leave John Mclaughlan in charge work with Bene and Wotherspoon as coaches.
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Topic Originator: Hockeyboy
Date: Wed 25 Dec 21:08
I think it will be McLaughlin until the end of the season to give the new owners time to evaluate the situation.
That being said I`d love a left field Calderwood type appointment, somebody like (and I appreciate this is unlikely) Des Buckingham who has recently been sacked by Oxford but has a decent career before that.
Despite being in the relegation places a lot of there fans weren`t happy with this move.........albeit he was an Oxford fan.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Wed 25 Dec 21:08
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 17:03
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dd23, Wed 25 Dec 09:24
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PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 05:52
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dd23, Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
Robson was already a coach with Aberdeen when he was given the opportunity. He was not an outsider brought in with a backhanded compliment.
You didn’t have that as part of the criteria when you asked your question though. Not that it makes any difference because the example fits the bill for what you were asking.
I did. Merry Christmas
Well congratulations on winning another .net petty argument.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 25 Dec 23:24
Fact Edgar Davids put his CV for the last Rovers job…I heard the names put in were crazy but a lot of them did not have a coaching licence approved with the SFA..
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Wed 25 Dec 23:30
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 25 Dec 23:24
Fact Edgar Davids put his CV for the last Rovers job…I heard the names put in were crazy but a lot of them did not have a coaching licence approved with the SFA..
Would rather have Davids in midfield now rather than manager tbf.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 25 Dec 23:56
Quote:
dd23, Wed 25 Dec 21:08
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 17:03
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dd23, Wed 25 Dec 09:24
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 25 Dec 05:52
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dd23, Tue 24 Dec 08:25
Barry Robson at Aberdeen, who then showed them he was good enough and got the job permanently.
Robson was already a coach with Aberdeen when he was given the opportunity. He was not an outsider brought in with a backhanded compliment.
You didn’t have that as part of the criteria when you asked your question though. Not that it makes any difference because the example fits the bill for what you were asking.
I did. Merry Christmas
Well congratulations on winning another .net petty argument.
Thankyou for your participation. I couldn`t have done it without you ;)
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 26 Dec 11:46
McBookie has Neil Lennon as 2nd favourite today. Lee Bullen not far behind in 3rd.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 26 Dec 11:57
Would like Neil Lennon, need someone with a bit of edge and something to prove.
We’re too nice and soft as a team and Lennon would get something different out of this squad, he’ll have good connections as well.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 26 Dec 12:23
McPake at 20/1 to be the next Raith manager, imagine!
I am completely on the fence with Lennon and would be worried about the media circus, but in terms of contacts, it would be an intriguing appointment but may divide the fans.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 26 Dec 13:10
The commentator on embra derby just said hibs are doing the dirty side of the game better and not giving away so many cheap goals… I’m assuming that’s one thing we could expect from Lennon?
Edited to say that then hibs go and give up a cheap goal!
Post Edited (Thu 26 Dec 13:31)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 26 Dec 13:13
Quote:
StevenPar77, Thu 26 Dec 12:23
McPake at 20/1 to be the next Raith manager, imagine!
I am completely on the fence with Lennon and would be worried about the media circus, but in terms of contacts, it would be an intriguing appointment but may divide the fans.
I am sure JM will be back managing soon. If you look at his record with us, he took us back up in the first season by some margin, kept us in the championship finishing 6th in the first season. This season has been a struggle for sure but he has not relegated us. I doubt he will be in line for the Raith job, but will be back in the game in some capacity with another.
At the end of the day it`s about perception in what success looks like.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Thu 26 Dec 13:30
Quote:
Indiapar, Wed 25 Dec 20:02
I think it`s time to bring in someone who has experience and done it all before and bought the T shirt. Not sure how the club would fund it given that three managers who have been sacked in as many years.
Maybe time for a different thought process. Leave John Mclaughlan in charge work with Bene and Wotherspoon as coaches.
do they have their coaching badges ?
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Thu 26 Dec 13:54
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Thu 26 Dec 13:30
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Indiapar, Wed 25 Dec 20:02
I think it`s time to bring in someone who has experience and done it all before and bought the T shirt. Not sure how the club would fund it given that three managers who have been sacked in as many years.
Maybe time for a different thought process. Leave John Mclaughlan in charge work with Bene and Wotherspoon as coaches.
do they have their coaching badges ?
Spoony will have to have some badges as he`s worked with the reserve.
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 26 Dec 13:55
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Thu 26 Dec 13:30
Quote:
Indiapar, Wed 25 Dec 20:02
I think it`s time to bring in someone who has experience and done it all before and bought the T shirt. Not sure how the club would fund it given that three managers who have been sacked in as many years.
Maybe time for a different thought process. Leave John Mclaughlan in charge work with Bene and Wotherspoon as coaches.
do they have their coaching badges ?
I am not sure how much that really matters. Personally, I feel.its about motivating players and instilling confidence at this stage . We should respect teams but not feel we can`t go out there and win games. That`s not about tactics more about belief in their own ability to get results.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 26 Dec 14:16
Quote:
Indiapar, Thu 26 Dec 13:55
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Parsfangaz, Thu 26 Dec 13:30
do they have their coaching badges ?
I am not sure how much that really matters.
Manager and one first team coach must have UEFA B license.
Don't know if there's any dispensation for interim appointments.
Post Edited (Thu 26 Dec 14:18)
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 26 Dec 14:28
Quote:
fcda, Thu 26 Dec 14:16
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Indiapar, Thu 26 Dec 13:55
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Parsfangaz, Thu 26 Dec 13:30
do they have their coaching badges ?
I am not sure how much that really matters.
Manager and one first team coach must have UEFA B license.
Don`t know if there`s any dispensation for interim appointments.
I believe Bene put the wheels in motion in 2023.
“I’m currently in process of getting my badges done. You need to do a few years of the C License, your B License. I’ll be doing that over the next two years but my main focus is on playing and seeing how far this team can go.”
Post Edited (Thu 26 Dec 14:30)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 26 Dec 14:33
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
Joe was a great player for us ,But he is not the answer to be the next manager Maybe as a number two or involved with background staff.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 26 Dec 17:26
Quote:
eastendalloapar, Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
He is making a better living through his academy than we will be able to offer him I`d think.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 26 Dec 17:46
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 26 Dec 17:26
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eastendalloapar, Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
He is making a better living through his academy than we will be able to offer him I`d think.
Jist get the squad tae go tae his academy then. Simples.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 26 Dec 18:23
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 26 Dec 17:46
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cammypar 1995, Thu 26 Dec 17:26
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eastendalloapar, Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
He is making a better living through his academy than we will be able to offer him I`d think.
Jist get the squad tae go tae his academy then. Simples.
Caroline Weir has done sessions with him when she was over and he also had other members of Scotland youth teams training with him.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 27 Dec 04:34
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 26 Dec 18:23
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PARrot, Thu 26 Dec 17:46
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cammypar 1995, Thu 26 Dec 17:26
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eastendalloapar, Thu 26 Dec 14:27
Perhaps Joe Cardell will. I don`t think that he is ready for managing but he would make an excellent coach.
He is making a better living through his academy than we will be able to offer him I`d think.
Jist get the squad tae go tae his academy then. Simples.
Caroline Weir has done sessions with him when she was over and he also had other members of Scotland youth teams training with him.
I wasn`t meaning to take the p***, I was just being silly.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 27 Dec 10:30
Michael Tidser now close 2nd favourite, Lennon and Bully drifting.
Must be tiny amounts going on with no real substance.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 27 Dec 10:40
Tidser is still registered as a player so we would get two for the price of one if he is appointed. That makes him favourite in my book.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Fri 27 Dec 11:03
Tidser has very little experience as a manager. It’s a no from me and reeks of cheap option…typical of Cook and the Germans.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 27 Dec 11:07
Just watched an episode of Open Goal that he was on and it would be a No for me. Defo need someone with more experience.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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