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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 11 Jan 20:45
Bring it into 1 post… nothing from the club and I’m sure Mr Tidser will be ok sitting in his house getting paid while Cook and whoever sort this mess out!!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 11 Jan 21:25
We can`t afford the compensation Kelty are asking for, just don`t have it - at least until the promised American syndicate take over and they provided funds.
That`s the ongoing situation.
Post Edited (Sat 11 Jan 21:25)
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Topic Originator: Taxipar
Date: Sat 11 Jan 21:57
50k Kelty want as Tidser is also a player plus Jordy as his assistant to be paid by the Germans but they are stalling on payment. That info is from within Kelty
A par since 1985
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 11 Jan 21:58
If we haven’t paid the compensation then surely he is not a DAFC employee? If that is the case why is Charlie Mulgrew being touted as KH next boss? What’s going on?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 11 Jan 22:06
Cook was at Beath High School this morning with young boy, presumably going to football practice.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 11 Jan 22:23
Honestly it’s absolutely amateur. If we can’t agree a deal with kelty let’s move on. I’d rather we offered it to John Mc on a more permanent basis anyway.
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Topic Originator: ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife
Date: Sat 11 Jan 22:23
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 11 Jan 21:25
We can`t afford the compensation Kelty are asking for, just don`t have it - at least until the promised American syndicate take over and they provided funds.
That`s the ongoing situation.
It`s not that we can`t afford it, but that we`re in the middle of a takeover so the current owners won`t pay it until conclusion of takeover. If the buy-out falls through then the Germans will pay the compensation for Tidser as they`ll be the owners. It`s just a matter of getting the club sale over the line. Tidser will happen regardless, but it`s just a matter of waiting
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 11 Jan 22:33
Paperwork should surely be done and dusted pretty soon. Given McPake was sacked under German ownership it`s a case that either they pay for his replacement or lower the club sale price?
This is also surely hurting Kelty given they`re operating without a management team even though that team hasn`t left? Surely it could come to pass that the club think "screw that" and go elsewhere (maybe to one of the MANY better alternatives according to people on this forum!)?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 11 Jan 23:36
It really needs to happen next week. I am sure Tidser has two or three players on his radar that he would like to bring it during the Jan window. We could possibly miss out on his targets if this drags on much longer. That’s assuming there are funds available of course and we don’t know for sure until the take over is complete…..sigh..
I thought the potential new owners met with SFA last week? Never heard a peep about that…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 12 Jan 01:55
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 11 Jan 20:45
Bring it into 1 post… nothing from the club and I’m sure Mr Tidser will be ok sitting in his house getting paid while Cook and whoever sort this mess out!!
There is no mess.
Most of us understand what is happening. Largely due to the fact it has been adequately explained several times.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 12 Jan 06:30
Quote:
Never10yairds, Sat 11 Jan 22:23
Honestly it’s absolutely amateur. If we can’t agree a deal with kelty let’s move on. I’d rather we offered it to John Mc on a more permanent basis anyway.
He doesn't want it.
Anyway the hold up is we cant afford/ not willing to pay the compensation figure that Kelty have in mind and the transfer budget that was promised to tidser id assume the goalposts were moved somewhere along the line. I'm led to believe this has been resolved and should be announced shortly. This is from inside the Kelty camp.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 12 Jan 07:44
I don`t get why the current ownership group don`t just pay it tbh. If the new owners come in, they can add that to the sale value of the shares. if for whatever reason the new owners don`t take over then the current board will need to fund a new manager anyway. For a wealthy group who are about to get their 2 million plus back, 50 grand is chump change.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sun 12 Jan 08:08
Does any individual group pay it? Surely it’s another line item on the clubs books (and presumably contribute to another year of losses). Even if the club doesn’t have access to cash they would make a deal on scheduling of payments.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 12 Jan 09:16
Quote:
ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Sat 11 Jan 22:23
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 11 Jan 21:25
We can`t afford the compensation Kelty are asking for, just don`t have it - at least until the promised American syndicate take over and they provided funds.
That`s the ongoing situation.
It`s not that we can`t afford it, but that we`re in the middle of a takeover so the current owners won`t pay it until conclusion of takeover. If the buy-out falls through then the Germans will pay the compensation for Tidser as they`ll be the owners. It`s just a matter of getting the club sale over the line. Tidser will happen regardless, but it`s just a matter of waiting
In which case the Germans could have bankrolled the compensation by now and recoup it from the new owners when (if ?) the takeover is completed.
Either way there is no reason for the ongoing delay being allowed to continue.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 09:23
I thought the disagreement was over the amount of the compensation rather than who was going to pay it? Anyway, as reported on the `Tidser` thread, the Kelty sporting director said yesterday he expected something to happen early this week. He seemed resigned to having to recruit a new manager for Kelty.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 12 Jan 09:25
Kelty have been busy extending contracts to their best players, interesting doing this without a manager!
Worried tidser might want to take a few of them?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 12 Jan 09:54
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 12 Jan 09:23
I thought the disagreement was over the amount of the compensation rather than who was going to pay it? Anyway, as reported on the `Tidser` thread, the Kelty sporting director said yesterday he expected something to happen early this week. He seemed resigned to having to recruit a new manager for Kelty.
In practice the amount becomes a secondary consideration if the current regime can’t or won’t pay it - and the potential new owners are not in place to provide funds.
If Kelty are not willing to reduce their expectations what is the solution to the impasse ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:01
A solution seems to have been found according to what the Kelty director said.
Would the compensation, or at least a `ballpark` figure, not normally be agreed when the `selling` club agreed to let the `buying` club speak to their target? I`m not sure what the protocol is in these situations.
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:10
After the lengthy delay I hope Tidser is worth it. We appear to be entirely set on someone with minimal managerial experience and even less when it comes to knowledge of the championship.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:34
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 12 Jan 09:23
I thought the disagreement was over the amount of the compensation rather than who was going to pay it? Anyway, as reported on the `Tidser` thread, the Kelty sporting director said yesterday he expected something to happen early this week. He seemed resigned to having to recruit a new manager for Kelty.
Kelty has already held some "interviews" for his successor and the front runner seems to be Charlie Mulgrew. Although I`d think they will be waiting on Tidser going to announce his replacement or maybe even seeing what other candidates apply when the job advert goes live.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 12 Jan 10:34)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:34
Big G Ball, hasn`t Tidser been a manager for 18 months and didn`t he play in the Championship for many seasons? How much experience of the English top league did Fergie have when he joined Manchester United? Most successful managers start at the bottom and progress as they are given opportunities at a higher level.
Post Edited (Sun 12 Jan 10:36)
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:39
Let’s not get excited and compare tidser with fergie who was someone that not many others will ever follow in the same footsteps. Experience playing in the championship doesn’t cut it as being a manager in the championship. We are paying out money for someone with a very short managerial cv
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:41
Hiya Andybird!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 10:46
I wonder how our appointments of Jock Stein or Jim Leishman would have been met if social media had been available then?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 12 Jan 11:25
Leishman was a motivator and had a good coach assisting him. They were a good team.
Nothing been said about Kevin MacDonald. He appears to be equally inexperienced and that is a concern for me. Two relatively inexperienced guys in the dugout.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 12 Jan 11:36
How are folk to become experienced without being given an opportunity.
Let’s just go hire the usual dinosaurs that have been on the merry go round and looking to salvage their career than someone who is up and coming.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 12 Jan 11:38
Yogi, Davie Hay, Stephen Kenny & Jocky Scott were collectively responsible for some of the absolute worst Pars spells in my 35 years following them.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 12 Jan 11:47
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 10:41
Hiya Andybird!
My thought too lol
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:06
To say that we are paying money for someone with a very short managerial CV looks like a statement of absolute fact to me.
Also, don`t get the `dinosaur` argument. Not everyone out there is either extremely inexperienced or old, set in their ways and unable to adapt to the modern game/player. There is some middle ground.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:06
Even Calderwood, probably the most successful manager the Pars have had in decades, wasn`t really that experienced before coming to us. I suppose it could be argued that Jimmy Nichol was though.
Give them a go, see what happens. I have to say Kelty have done well, not just under Tidser and MacDonald, but generally. I don`t live in Kelty but they appear from the outside to be a real part of the community.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:16
Calderwood had 8 years of coaching experience, the latter 3 of which he was the manager of two different clubs in the top tier of Dutch football - so he was dropping down in level.
Tidser has never coached or managed a full-time football club.
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Post Edited (Sun 12 Jan 12:17)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:19
True, but didn`t those Dutch clubs hire someone with limited managerial experience? Every manager has to start somewhere. We`ve seen some experienced managers do well at the Pars, and some inexperienced ones too. I wouldn`t say there`s much of a trend either way.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:21
At some point in their careers every manager won`t have coached or managed a full-time football club.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:25
Quote:
Big G Ball, Sun 12 Jan 10:39
Let’s not get excited and compare tidser with fergie who was someone that not many others will ever follow in the same footsteps. Experience playing in the championship doesn’t cut it as being a manager in the championship. We are paying out money for someone with a very short managerial cv
Hiya Andy, hiya pal.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 12 Jan 12:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 12 Jan 12:25
Quote:
Big G Ball, Sun 12 Jan 10:39
Let’s not get excited and compare tidser with fergie who was someone that not many others will ever follow in the same footsteps. Experience playing in the championship doesn’t cut it as being a manager in the championship. We are paying out money for someone with a very short managerial cv
Hiya Andy, hiya pal.
🤣🤣👋
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 13:13
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 12 Jan 12:21
At some point in their careers every manager won`t have coached or managed a full-time football club.
Calderwood was an assistant first and then worked head coach thereafter.
I`m not saying I`m against Tidser - and there`s no point as he`s likely to be appointed soon - but I think there`s a reasonable argument to say that we could have gone less risky without delving into the dinosaur merry-go-round.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 12 Jan 13:39
There`s a reasonable argument about most managerial appointments. Personally I`d have gone for Murray but his record isn`t exactly flawless either.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 12 Jan 13:48
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
To be fair, those responses were pretty much aimed at some guy acting like Tidser had nicked his missus.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 12 Jan 13:57
The Germans must be very untrustworthy or like a few have already said, they`d pay the compensation and just add it to the sale price.
Maybe the takeover isn`t as set in stone as we hoped?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 12 Jan 14:07
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Sun 12 Jan 13:57
The Germans must be very untrustworthy or like a few have already said, they`d pay the compensation and just add it to the sale price.
Maybe the takeover isn`t as set in stone as we hoped?
I`m having concerns about this, however, my concerns are not based on anything other than the complete lack of meaningful coverage or chat about it.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 12 Jan 14:10
Did somebody question Sir Fegie`s managerial experience in respect of his suitability for appointment at Old Trafford ?
His Aberdeen achievements presumably impressed the Man.Unt. hierarchy - 3 Scottish League titles, 4 Scottish Cups and topped off with a UEFA Cup Winners Cup final win over Real Madrid.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 14:13
How can you have public coverage or chat about the sale of a private company? If any information was released officially it would have to be restricted which would inevitably give rise to speculation and conspiracy theories.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sun 12 Jan 14:40
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 12 Jan 14:13
How can you have public coverage or chat about the sale of a private company? If any information was released officially it would have to be restricted which would inevitably give rise to speculation and conspiracy theories.
No news is good news. If the deal was off, then it would have been leaked to the papers. We all just need a little bit of patience.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 12 Jan 15:26
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 12 Jan 14:13
How can you have public coverage or chat about the sale of a private company? If any information was released officially it would have to be restricted which would inevitably give rise to speculation and conspiracy theories.
Away and and clutch your pearls min.
Any takeover of any Scottish club usually has articles written about it.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 Jan 15:42
So has ours but they haven`t told us much. Clutching pearls is better than clutching at straws to have something to moan about.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 12 Jan 15:59
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
Can I politely suggest that .net might not be the best place to find reasonable responses?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sun 12 Jan 16:04
I wish folk would stop trying to pretend that football clubs are just like other businesses when we all know that they are not.
It`s about more than affection or local connection too. Folk has a connection with Woolies, but did folk shake buckets to keep them afloat? How many tears were shed by grown men who thought they were making their last purchase there? Football clubs are treasured, they are genuinely loved.
It`s not the same as a shop or a travel agents, and most of the problems being faced by modern football are, at their core, down to folk treating clubs like other businesses.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 17:21
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 15:59
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
Can I politely suggest that .net might not be the best place to find reasonable responses?
Thanks da_no_1. I always give your suggestions the appropriate level of consideration.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 12 Jan 17:49
"I think there`s a reasonable argument to say that we could have gone less risky without delving into the dinosaur merry-go-round."
Such as who?
"Away and and clutch your pearls min.
Any takeover of any Scottish club usually has articles written about it."
There have been articles. In the Courier, the Press, the Record, the Daily Mail and online. It had been discussed on podcasts and on the radio. Given that two clubs are currently in administration and they`ve had arguably less coverage than we have, it`s a weird angle to take.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:04
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 17:21
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da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 15:59
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
Can I politely suggest that .net might not be the best place to find reasonable responses?
Thanks da_no_1. I always give your suggestions the appropriate level of consideration.
Just a joke mate
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:29
I’ve got a feeling tidser might do okay. Feels like a better option than mcpake was.
Mcpake got lucky in taking over newly relegated teams with players too good for the league they were going into but not quite good enough for the league above so was able to get them back up while playing defensive football. The minute he has to improve the squad he was found wanting.
Tidser took over Kelty when they didn’t even have a squad so has actually built something and they look decent for a playoff spot and from what we hear playing half decent stuff.
As with both, they will live or die by who they sign in the market.. I fancy tidser wont ignore the attacking side of the game as mcpake did and hopefully will know a decent midfielder when he sees one.
Looking forward to seeing us sign someone who improves us as a team and is a regular name on the team sheet and not because there’s no one else to play that position. Apart from Kane we’ve spent the last few windows signing subs.
Post Edited (Sun 12 Jan 18:29)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:33
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 18:04
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DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 17:21
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da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 15:59
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DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
Can I politely suggest that .net might not be the best place to find reasonable responses?
Thanks da_no_1. I always give your suggestions the appropriate level of consideration.
Just a joke mate
Likewise.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:40
Quote:
kelty_par, Sun 12 Jan 17:49
"I think there`s a reasonable argument to say that we could have gone less risky without delving into the dinosaur merry-go-round."
Such as who?
Murray is the obvious one. Courts was also mentioned as being a possibility.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:41
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 18:33
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da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 18:04
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DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 17:21
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da_no_1, Sun 12 Jan 15:59
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 12 Jan 13:47
Yes, but there`s not always been a reasonable response to anyone raising doubts over this appointment.
Can I politely suggest that .net might not be the best place to find reasonable responses?
Thanks da_no_1. I always give your suggestions the appropriate level of consideration.
Just a joke mate
Likewise.
😀
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:56
MacDonald has not really been talked about. I’m told he is an excellent coach.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Sun 12 Jan 18:58
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 12 Jan 18:56
MacDonald has not really been talked about. I’m told he is an excellent coach.
I`ve been told this too buy a couple of KH fans I know.
Does anyone have the postcast link that`s been. Mentioned?
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 12 Jan 19:32
Quote:
Kba990309, Sun 12 Jan 18:58
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 12 Jan 18:56
MacDonald has not really been talked about. I’m told he is an excellent coach.
I`ve been told this too buy a couple of KH fans I know.
Does anyone have the postcast link that`s been. Mentioned?
Think you probably mean this one. He comes across well: -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbttCq61H0
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 12 Jan 20:01
Someone mentioned earlier that we cant pay the compensation as we are in the middle of a takeover…….yet we paid out McPake and McKays contracts…..also claiming Murray and Courts are dinosaurs is just laughable 😂
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 12 Jan 20:02
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 12 Jan 20:01
Someone mentioned earlier that we cant pay the compensation as we are in the middle of a takeover…….yet we paid out McPake and McKays contracts…..also claiming Murray and Courts are dinosaurs is just laughable 😂
Who says we have? They might just be on gardening leave.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 12 Jan 20:08
Kevin McDonald has been Assistant Manager at Musselburgh from 2016 to 2019, then manager there for a couple of years, and then Assistant Manager at Kelty for the past 4 years working with Kevin Thompson, John Potter and Michael Tidser, so he`s served his apprenticeship.
Lots of cars outside East End Park earlier, whatever is going on there today?
It is worth mentioning that the next appointment we make, may not be a traditional "manager" role. If the new owners are wanting to utilise what their Artificial Intelligence can do, it might mean that AI will assess the performance of our current players in games and training, their health, fitness and conditioning. AI will identify what is missing from our squad, and transfer targets will be set by AI. It will likely also produce in depth scouting of our opponents, how they will set up, what their players are likely to do, what set pieces they will use, and perhaps come up with a game plan, tactical set up and team selection, which the manager will need to embrace and work very hard with the players to implement during the week.
I`ve seen some data where it can show every touch a player makes, what passes he prefers to play, the success rate of his long and short passes. Good scouts have got the experience and game intelligence to look at what players do- for example they will know when the right back receives the ball out from his keeper, does he need a couple of touches to get it under control, does he favour a ball up to the right wing, if he is under pressure is he looking to pass side ways to his centre back, does he favour a touch and then his second touch is a short ball to the nearest midfielder. That`s the sort of information AI could provide us with. It will still need good people, with an understanding of the game that can make this work in practice.
It will need a coach that is fully onboard with the opportunities that Artificial Intelligence can bring and be willing to learn how they can use all this information to get the edge.
As much as I love him, I don`t know how someone like Dick Campbell would take to being told what team he needs to pick, and what formation he needs to play, it`s going to need to be someone willing to embrace change, take everything on board and use it
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 12 Jan 20:32
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Dave_1885, Sun 12 Jan 20:01
Someone mentioned earlier that we cant pay the compensation as we are in the middle of a takeover…….yet we paid out McPake and McKays contracts…..also claiming Murray and Courts are dinosaurs is just laughable 😂
Who said Murray and Courts were dinosaurs?
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 12 Jan 21:57
I used the term when people were referencing the like of Billy Davies a while back.
Tidser will be a success at this club, can’t be arsed chatting about it anymore.
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Mon 13 Jan 04:37
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Jeffery, Sun 12 Jan 19:32
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Kba990309, Sun 12 Jan 18:58
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 12 Jan 18:56
MacDonald has not really been talked about. I’m told he is an excellent coach.
I`ve been told this too buy a couple of KH fans I know.
Does anyone have the postcast link that`s been. Mentioned?
Think you probably mean this one. He comes across well: -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbttCq61H0
Cheers
Keith allan
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Mon 13 Jan 09:38
According to BBC Sport, there is a proposed meeting in the next 24-48 hours to reach a compensation deal for Michael Tidser, fingers crossed.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 13 Jan 18:12
"Murray is the obvious one. Courts was also mentioned as being a possibility."
Are they that less risky? Murray has had good spells and bad, and his transfer dealinf have been hit and miss. Courts is working in Saudi Arabia after leaving Honved so would need a very attractive package to come back you`d think. He also bailed from Dundee United after only a short time in charge. Again, risky.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 13 Jan 18:27
Tidser pretty much a done deal now, Mulgrew likely to be picking up the role at Kelty.
Hopefully news out by Wednesday.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 13 Jan 18:35
Can`t believe Kelty taking such a risk on an inexperienced manager. They must be out of their minds. This shows a real lack of ambition. Why didn`t they try for Murray?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 13 Jan 18:48
Quote:
jake89, Mon 13 Jan 18:35
Can`t believe Kelty taking such a risk on an inexperienced manager. They must be out of their minds. This shows a real lack of ambition. Why didn`t they try for Murray?
Would Murray drop to that level.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 13 Jan 19:07
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Mon 13 Jan 18:48
Quote:
jake89, Mon 13 Jan 18:35
Can`t believe Kelty taking such a risk on an inexperienced manager. They must be out of their minds. This shows a real lack of ambition. Why didn`t they try for Murray?
Would Murray drop to that level.
I was being sarcastic 😂
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 13 Jan 19:33
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kelty_par, Mon 13 Jan 18:12
"Murray is the obvious one. Courts was also mentioned as being a possibility."
Are they that less risky? Murray has had good spells and bad, and his transfer dealinf have been hit and miss. Courts is working in Saudi Arabia after leaving Honved so would need a very attractive package to come back you`d think. He also bailed from Dundee United after only a short time in charge. Again, risky.
Based on the evidence, they`re both less of a risk. Nobody is saying anyone out there, who is a realistic prospect, offers any sort of guarantee.
Hopefully, we get a win tomorrow against Ayr so that Tidser comes in when the side have a good bit of momentum. Although not planned, that would give me a bit more confidence. I think it would have been a complete hospital pass if he`d taken over prior to the Falkirk match - or if we`d lost the games since then and he was getting the job now.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 13 Jan 19:44
I hope he`s the next great young manager and gets poached by Brighton for top dollar in 3 years` time.
When he`s appointed, I`ll be completely supportive.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 13 Jan 19:51
Tidser,when appointed,gets my full support. We need someone enthusiastic, and has an attack minded attitude.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 13 Jan 20:26
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
I’m with you
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 13 Jan 20:48
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 13 Jan 20:26
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
I’m with you
And me.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Mon 13 Jan 21:05
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 13 Jan 20:48
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 13 Jan 20:26
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da_no_1, Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
I’m with you
And me.
Aye, me too.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 13 Jan 21:06
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 13 Jan 21:05
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GG Riva, Mon 13 Jan 20:48
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 13 Jan 20:26
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da_no_1, Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
I’m with you
And me.
Aye, me too.
And I
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 13 Jan 21:35
Regarding Tidser, I`m on board.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Mon 13 Jan 21:44
I want Tidser as manager anyway. Just want to get it done pronto, so we can focus on the transfer window next.
We need a striker that can compete with Kane and cover his injuries. Wighton is not that person.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 13 Jan 21:47
I had reservations when McPake took over then was enthused by him as we romped league one and look how it turned out….Lots of reasons why of course.
I will get behind any manager who takes over and hope it all works out in the short to medium term at least. Securing our championship status is imperative.
I do have my reservations again though….
As many have mentioned before, there is no guarantee of success and many experienced managers have crashed and burned while many less experienced have done a great job.
Let’s hope it all works out, not just for our new management but also for our new owners. It’s about time our fortunes took an upturn….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Tue 14 Jan 07:07
Quote:
Berry, Mon 13 Jan 21:06
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KnebworthPar, Mon 13 Jan 21:05
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GG Riva, Mon 13 Jan 20:48
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Raymie the Legend, Mon 13 Jan 20:26
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da_no_1, Mon 13 Jan 19:38
It`s pretty obvious that some folk have just about made their minds up. I`m quite content that he`s not one of the usual suspects that pollute Sportsound every weekend.
I’m with you
And me.
Aye, me too.
And I
I’m Spartacus
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 07:49
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 13 Jan 19:44
I hope he`s the next great young manager and gets poached by Brighton for top dollar in 3 years` time.
When he`s appointed, I`ll be completely supportive.
Hear, hear!
Post Edited (Tue 14 Jan 07:56)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 14 Jan 09:00
I think Tidser and McDonald will do a good job and will always get my support. New owners, management team and a fresh start!!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 14 Jan 13:12
Tidser will no doubt be at the game this evening either as manager or spectator. He`ll see how tough a job he has when Ayr demolish us. Yes I`m being negative but it`s just the way I am, I can`t help it. Hopefully I`m wrong and we can scrape a win or even a point would have me delighted. Ayr have recently pumped raith, hammered f&lkirk and beat livi so taking anything will be a mighty challenge. One I hope we rise to.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Tue 14 Jan 13:18
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Tue 14 Jan 13:12
Tidser will no doubt be at the game tomorrow as either manager or spectator. He`ll see how tough a job he has when Ayr demolish us. Yes I`m being negative but it`s just the way I am, I can`t help it. Hopefully I`m wrong and we can scrape a win or even a point would have me delighted. Ayr have recently pumped raith, hammered f&lkirk and beat livi so taking anything will be a mighty challenge. One I hope we rise to.
It`s tonight .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 14 Jan 13:32
I know it`s tonight, just as my post says. Are you mad or something.
🫠🫢😘🤫
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 13:36
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Tue 14 Jan 13:12
Tidser will no doubt be at the game this evening either as manager or spectator. He`ll see how tough a job he has when Ayr demolish us. Yes I`m being negative but it`s just the way I am, I can`t help it. Hopefully I`m wrong and we can scrape a win or even a point would have me delighted. Ayr have recently pumped raith, hammered f&lkirk and beat livi so taking anything will be a mighty challenge. One I hope we rise to.
Midweek under the lights mate......keep the faith
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Tue 14 Jan 13:50
Quote:
kozmasrightfoot, Tue 14 Jan 13:32
I know it`s tonight, just as my post says. Are you mad or something.
🫠🫢😘🤫
If I am , I`ve come to the right place eh 😉
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 14 Jan 17:07
Had an inkling they were maybe holding back and timing an announcement to coincide with the match today. Looks like that`s wrong.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 14 Jan 17:23
Like everything involving the German`s, it`s fair dragging on.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 14 Jan 17:23
It would run the risk of causing an unnecessary distraction for the game tonight when the players are currently performing high under John.
Tidser will take over after tonight, get a comfortable first game in the bag against Stenhousemuir and buy him some more time on the training pitch ahead of his first league game.
That’s where my heads currently at with it anyway - may be completely off.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 14 Jan 17:40
I`m not sure what to expect tonight tbh. I think we are more than capable of taking Ayr but I`m also conscious of the impact of the team having the distraction of a new manager about to come in.
Regardless of how things pan out tonight, I think it`s important to recognise the important role JL has played.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 14 Jan 18:04
I’m pretty confident we will not lose.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 14 Jan 20:40
Congratulations Ray on temping fate 😠.
I hope you`re correct in your prediction🤞.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 14 Jan 21:29
Ray, no more match predictions, please...
:)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:22
Quote:
OzPar, Tue 14 Jan 21:29
Ray, no more match predictions, please...
:)
Was looking good for most of the first half.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:53
This needs sorted sharpish, certainly before Saturday.
We`re half way through the window. It`s vital the squad is improved.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: sammy_shuffle
Date: Wed 15 Jan 00:57
Kelty played hardball from the beginning.
Dunfermline offered tidser the job and agreed to take it.
Unfortunately Dunfermline never contacted Kelty first and when they did were offered a derisery figure.
Kelty said look we want x pounds as we are in the hunt for promotion/play offs and losing our player/manager and coach could cost us x pounds.
Apparently an agreement was reached but fussballgmbh said we are not paying it. The incoming owners said we will pay it but not till we are given the go ahead by the football authorities.
Tidser is still kelty manager but on gardening leave.
The reason Kelty want to play us isn`t really about money as such but to celebrate their 50th anniversary.
That`s my understanding of it all and hopefully it all gets put to bed sooner rather than later for everybody concerned.
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Wed 15 Jan 01:44
Kelty gave Dunfermline permission to speak to Tidser, only after those discussions was he offered the position
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 15 Jan 07:28
Quote:
Alf, Wed 15 Jan 01:44
Kelty gave Dunfermline permission to speak to Tidser, only after those discussions was he offered the position
This was certainly one of the few things reported...
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: sammy_shuffle
Date: Wed 15 Jan 11:22
What I should have said was we agreed the deal with tidser before sorting out with Kelty the compensation details.
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Wed 15 Jan 12:57
Hopefully done and dusted on both fronts today or tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Wed 15 Jan 15:23
The silence is almost deafening, its been a week since the meeting in regards to our proposed new owners, this must have been passed as surely there would have been some sort of announcement to say otherwise, likewise the tidser debacle, the fact that kelty have put him on garden leave, tells us that it is almost certain that he is no longer their manager at this current time, obviously our current german owners wont dip their hands into their pockets if they don`t need to or even want to. the only info we have is on this thread.
the manager situation should have been sorted out well before now. mcpake was dismissed a few days before xmas, it looks as if we already had tidser in our sights, surely our owners and cook would have known their would have been fees, and ready to pay such but again nothing, lets drag it out, as it stands we are running into another weekend without a permanent manager, no disrespect to our current coaching staff, the longer this goes on we will miss out in this transfer window, as we are now mid month.
the sooner this gets sorted the better, wave the current regime good bye and hopefully they take cook with them.
before we know, it will be the end of the transfer window, then we will need to on with it
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 15 Jan 15:28
I would expect Tidser is already compiling a list. He`s taken in at least two games now and I`m sure has had access to the videos to watch back too.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 Jan 15:47
It`s frustrating to say the least that neither the sale of the club nor the appointment of Tidser has been finalised yet so we have to assume the two are connected. Presumably the US consortium have approved the appointment of Tidser otherwise we could be faced with another change shortly after they assume ownership. If they aren`t prepared to pay the compensation to Kelty it must be because they don`t want to commit themselves until they are sure they have ownership. On the other hand the current German owners won`t want to pay the compensation because, if the deal doesn`t go through, they will have no way of recovering it and will have a manager they didn`t choose.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 15 Jan 16:01
Those in the know we’re saying the situation regarding the manager would be sorted early this week. That has not happened. The hold up is obviously with the SFA approving our new owners. There was a meeting last week supposedly.
The club really need to update the fans as to where we are with the proposed new owners.
Getting to the stage where I feel it could all fall through..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 Jan 16:36
I`m not sure what they could say other than something like `negotiations are ongoing`.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 15 Jan 16:54
Quote:
desparado, Wed 15 Jan 16:01
Those in the know we’re saying the situation regarding the manager would be sorted early this week. That has not happened. The hold up is obviously with the SFA approving our new owners. There was a meeting last week supposedly.
The club really need to update the fans as to where we are with the proposed new owners.
Getting to the stage where I feel it could all fall through..
We`re DOOMED! 😂
If the SFA had said no last week then it would be known by now. I expect what is taking time is the paperwork.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 15 Jan 17:17
So nobody, the club, the SFA, the prospective new owners can shed any light on the approximate time frame till conclusion?
Somebody must know what the situation is as off now. And when things are likely to be done.
We the fans as usual are kept in the dark.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Underpars
Date: Wed 15 Jan 17:21
Why don’t you come to your senses…..
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Wed 15 Jan 17:33
Quote:
desparado, Wed 15 Jan 17:17
So nobody, the club, the SFA, the prospective new owners can shed any light on the approximate time frame till conclusion?
Somebody must know what the situation is as off now. And when things are likely to be done.
We the fans as usual are kept in the dark.
The last ‘official’ update we had on the sale of the club was that NDAs had been signed. Are you seriously expecting the club, or someone in the know, to breach these NDAs, to give you an update?
Of course somebody will know what the current situation is, but I’d assume those people are actively involved in discussions with lawyers, prospective buyers etc and are (rightly) keeping things quiet until there’s actually an update that they can give the fans, without breaching legal agreements that have been signed.
On the manager front, it would also be very unprofessional to be announcing anything until things have been agreed, or any potential deal has fallen through. The club can’t exactly come out and say “We’ve agreed a contract, but Kelty are being ridiculous with their demands” while we’re still negotiating compensation with them. That would just be stupid and jeopardise the deal.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Wed 15 Jan 19:24
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 15 Jan 16:36
I`m not sure what they could say other than something like `negotiations are ongoing`.
That would be better than nothing, Wee Eck. The radio silence only serves to make people more paranoid that things are going t!ts up.
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