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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Mon 20 Jan 23:52
Just following on from coventrypar`s post on another thread. It does seem that the forum is now dominated by a handful of regulars, with a lot of the less frequent posters who I used to enjoy reading having pretty much given up entirely. It would be interesting to get an idea as to why we`ve gone this way.
I`ve become less regular myself in recent years and I think most of it is because I just can`t be arsed with the level of aggression, much of it passive, that fills the forum. That`s particularly so at times (as recently) when I don`t feel very strong emotionally. Subjecting myself to that stuff when I feel like that just doesn`t feel safe. I`m pretty sure I`ve said things in the past that weren`t very nice so I don`t want that to sound all high-handed, but sometimes it`s worth remembering that the person you think is being a fanny and talking nonsense might not be having a great time.
The almost constant snidey, nippy comments are just really offputting. I also find the comments that essentially complain about a lack of kindness being shown towards players, management, etc. but which then attack another poster in very unkind terms, to be really odd. I`m always struck that the person doesn`t notice the contradiction.
Are football forums more prone to it than others? I don`t know as they tend to be the only places I write anything online. Maybe it`s just the way of the internet generally? Someone might well be thinking `maybe the internet is not for you` and maybe it`s not. But it`s a bit of a shame if that is the case.
Anyone else who doesn`t post all that often have any views on this?
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:22
In total I think I`ve posted in single figures. The main deterrent for me is the sense of entitlement by those who rant on and demand this, that and the next thing from the board or manager, which does does lend itself to a reasoned discussion when a balanced counter post is made.
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Topic Originator: jdafc
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:47
I have ben a member of the forum for a long time and been reading it for much longer. Joined in 2008.
I very rarely post because there`s usually someone who will post exactly what I`m thinking, so there`s no real need to. (Not always the same people).
I have seen many posters come and go. Some who are missed, most who aren`t.
Having moved up to the Broch 11 years ago, I don`t get to many games, probably half a dozen a season, I have found that I rely more on the forum for my feedback.
Unfortunately, the place seems to have been hijacked by a few posters who are all over everything like a rash and if anyone dares to post something they don`t subscribe to then the level of abuse is quite disturbing.
I can`t really be bothered by letting someone on a forum annoy me so much that I simply have to engage in childish bickering, so I don`t understand why there`s so much of it on here. We are all supposedly fans of the same club and yet there seems to be very little common ground at times.
Granted, there are times that it`s quite amusing being on the outside looking in as some folk wind themselves up to breaking point and the square go invitations are getting written.
However, I do read the forum every day. I get my wee fix from some of the good stuff that`s written on here about my club.
Always a Par
JD
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:56
I`ll respond to other`s posts but unlikely to post my own thread because of the herd mentality and pervading superiority complex in here, that and straight off the bat someone insinuated they had "confirmed who I am" which to this day hasn`t been cleared up, I can only say again, that`s unlikely but it is what it is.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:27
Another good, thought-provoking OP. Long may these continue. I wonder if this and Coventry`s post have been inspired by a sense of frustration at some of the juvenile bickering and trading of insults that go on here sometimes?
I don`t think Socks` question really applies to me as I`m on the forum quite a lot. I try not to get involved with those posters who seemingly go out of their way to provoke fellow Pars fans, but that`s not always easy. The most disappointing aspect of the forum for me is the way a few posters can turn a positive post like Coventry`s titled "Joe Chalmers" into a negative. It`s not as if we haven`t heard it all before. You don`t rate a player? Fair enough, but do we have to have it explained to us how you came to this conclusion on a daily basis?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:34
Correct, 🦜 😊
I can’t be bothered with the 🧌s. Some are more obvious than others but a 🧌 flinging button would be a great addition. Get on it Milos!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 08:39)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:50
Spot on Socks.
A small few on here have pretty much made me stop posting.
I still come on for a gander and most of it is good opinionated stuff. But when this small few get involved they suck the life out of everyone else. They used to rip my knitting but now I just have a chuckle to myself.
So that`s kinda stopped me posting.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 08:20
great post Socks. thanks for posting.
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Tue 21 Jan 08:48
Most of the time I don’t have strong enough opinions or the mental energy to post.
As for the bickering, that would be radically reduced if folks had the discipline to “play the ball, not the man”. Have the strength to refrain from commenting on the poster’s personal attributes (usually perceived negativity or positivity). Go after their rationales, not their human nature.
This is my signature
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 09:00)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:12
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
I think my point is its almost like there is no women Pars Fan like Buffy. I absolutely beg to differ. Folk need to watch on here. We all love the club.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:15
Yes, I stopped posting for a couple of years, mainly because my password didn`t work and I didn`t bother correcting it! I don`t live for it.
It`s true I don`t post if someone has posted what I think anyway, if there`s a decent story (new manager etc) then it`s busy anyway
.There does appear to be just a handful of regular posters though, most are good, but my goodness there`s a lot of nippy people out there, just looking to correct one single mistake.
Also don`t like the language used `wage thief` etc. these are honest pros, no player is making money in 2nd tier Scottish football, and there`s a high % of Pars fans that will earn more than the players. General abuse I don`t like, and there`s a fair bit of it.
I look here and pie and Bovril for updates, tend to find P & B doesn`t have so many raspers.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:22
I don’t understand your point, 87Par. You said you didn’t get it yet you “got it” here….
“87Par
Wed 13 Mar 08:03
Buffy, Wed 13 Mar 07:16
I’ll hud yer jaiket, EET
Would you hold mine too please Buffy hen?”
You’re just another troll.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 14:07)
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:23
I post on occasion and always do so respectfully without trying to cause any offence whilst publishing my thoughts or opinions.
It`s a great platform to share information and opinions whilst getting a flavour of others opinions, moods, ideas, etc
I do enjoy the banter 😄
However some posters cannot seem to tell the difference between Banter v. Bullying.
I have noticed on many occasions that sometimes banter can evolve into bullying and is reminiscent of a table of drunken men squabbling at their local pub.
Behind the keyboard they can dress themselves up in their very best Super Hero attire and dawn extraordinary powers of bravery in attacking other people`s opinions from "very far away".....
Best to just let them, "Enjoy their night mate"!
DunfyDave
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 09:24)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:25
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
And case and point. Most of us don`t know Buffy. So we don`t really get it. You know what a mean.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:38
for me its the repetitive things on every post which just makes threads/forum unbearable at times. Many of the level headed posters who offer valuble opinions etc have stopped or seldom post as socks highlights and replaced with childish wind up merchants who become aggressive. When the sensible posts are there they are buried in the middle of the nonsense so are often missed.
Some good ideas posted elsewhere to enhance the forum. a "block" or "ignore" option for certain posters. The old rogues gallery used to be good and felt more like a community as you could put a face who you were talking to and see them at games etc rather than the anonimity of the people who create email address after email address for multiple log ins and post abusive/nonsense wind up posts.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:43
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 19:49)
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Tue 21 Jan 10:12
I used to be a more frequent poster but now I`ll just read most threads rather than add to them as someone usually covers my thoughts in their comments.
One thing that frustrates me though, is when someone falsely accuses you of something thats just not true. I was recently accused by a poster of `always replying to my posts with something crappy` and ` a grown man acting the way you do. It`s pathetic`.
That stuff kinda wears me down and puts me off posting.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 21 Jan 10:24
There certainly seems to be a hierarchy on the forum.
Pouncing on anyone who doesn’t share their opinion.
We’re all Pars fans at the end of the day and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts.
No one is any better than anyone else.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:14
I`m probably wearing rose tinted goggles but I do miss the old random utterly comedic stupid threads that popped up from time to time (in a good way).
Some posters can be relied on for kindness (I`ll bring a bed round for free being a good example), some for interesting points and others for reacting badly to any perceived disagreement or a different opinion being held. Two ears one mouth is always a good approach in my experience.
Generally, it`s an interesting place to hear what`s going on, learning some new things, but I think it has lost a little edge in terms of being a community and turned into folk looking for a scrap in an empty room.
Thanks to admin for continuing to run it. And I hope those above who have suggested they haven`t been in the optimum place recently are starting to feel a bit better. Can`t wait for more vitamin D myself and some improved results.
I`d probably post more if there was more positivity around.
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Great OP.
That’s the way of social media, we just accept the nonsense with a smile and a shake of the head.
Interesting to see a few on this thread already falling into the same old habit and posting stuff Socks originally posted about!
I post when I think I can add something, often others post with much more detailed knowledge than me and I enjoy that. Keep posting, we’re all Pars fans.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Perplexed as to why Buffy, one of the nicest posters on here, got singled out for some treatment. I assume 87Par never looks into the politics forum!
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:56
There definitely is a heirarchy on here, and these posters seem to take delight in referring to posters by their real name, basically highlighting that they know so many other posters on a personal basis. It’s like this forum gives them their purpose in life.
Also so many threads descend in to one on one arguing with comments like “show me where I said that” or “ read my post again”. If you can’t just step away and you feel the need to prove every point on an internet forum, then this site has got too big a hold on your life.
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:00
Used to post a wee bit but not a lot. Now I barely ever post
To offer an alternative view, the snidey comments and arguments actually don`t put me off as any online forum tends to have this anyway.
As sad as it is to say, I just don`t have the passion for the Pars I used to any more. The events of the last few years on and off the pitch and rising costs have made it really difficult to prioritise supporting the Pars over other things. Just a few years ago I was a home and away supporter with a season ticket. This season I have been to 2 games.
I`d say I`ve gone from a die hard to a part timer who goes on this forum only to check the rumour mill now and again, which a few years ago I would never have seen happening.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:10
Quote:
SeasonedPar, Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Interesting to see a few on this thread already falling into the same old habit and posting stuff Socks originally posted about!
Without confirming some sort of agreement then all you`ll get is disagreement.
That`s why the like buttons are quite important on a forum. Having to type out a lot in response (and for it to then be read) isn`t really in anyone`s best interests!
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:15
I relish the cut and thrust of the politics forum. My rapier wit reigns supreme ..like D’Artagnan would have toyed with with a dozen clumsy claymore clodhoppers without shoogling his perm
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:19
Not for the first time ,I agree with Socks
Andy
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:31
"The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads."
GG4, I agree, I actually think Berkey makes a lot of valid points, but he gets hammered.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:38
Quote:
GG4, Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
Absolutely this. Every thread berkey posts in gets ruined, not because of him, but because people are very clearly trying to harass him. That’s just one example though, there’s been numerous examples of this, with different users involved. It seems like if you’re trying to provide a different perspective, you’re not welcome here. The regulars seem to quickly get rid of any new posters.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:05
I`ve been reading this forum for several years but only recently started posting. Whilst I enjoy a lot of the banter, I find the abuse and sarcasm towards players, management and other posters very off-putting. My dad took me to my first Pars game v Celtic in 1961 and I worked in the Commercial Department during the 90s. These days, I perhaps watch Edinburgh City almost as often as the Pars because Meadowbank is a mere 20 minute walk from my home, and in all that time I have never verbally abused a player of any team, although I admit to booing when the occasion merits it. Good natured banter is fine, but verbal abuse and downright sarcasm can be very hurtful. As a footnote, I still think we should be monitoring Connor Young! 😊
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:22
I like talking about players, and tactics, and the opposition, and grounds, and kit, and all that stuff. Sadly there seems to be very few posters who share an interest in shapes and tactics. There seems to be very few posters who can look at a player objectively (good or bad) without stuff becoming personal. There seems to be very few posters who have an appreciation of or interest in other clubs in the division. There are a few that share an appreciation for nice or quirky or unusual grounds and strips (I liked the jersey the Stenhousemuir boys were wearing on Saturday) but those threads are few and far between. There are however multiple posts alagging off individual posters, there seems to be a massive anti-David Cook cabal who slag him in almost every thread and there are fewer posters who contribute these days. So I stick to Pie and Bovril and a group chat I`m in.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:23
Quote:
par-91, Tue 21 Jan 12:38
Quote:
GG4, Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
Absolutely this. Every thread berkey posts in gets ruined, not because of him, but because people are very clearly trying to harass him. That’s just one example though, there’s been numerous examples of this, with different users involved. It seems like if you’re trying to provide a different perspective, you’re not welcome here. The regulars seem to quickly get rid of any new posters.
This 100%.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:27
I`m not in a good place mentally so having people jump all over me because of an obvious joke is a bit much. Keyboard warriors never used to bother me but for some reason they now hurt my feelings. Maybe I`m being precious but that`s how I feel.
Then there is the constant negativity, it`s non stop. The new manager wasn`t even officially announced but already the usual crowd were all over him. Not good enough, no ambition, bargain basement manager etc.
The main reason though is the general apathy I feel towards the club. I`m just not as interested as I used to be. I`m more interested in my second club, Newcastle.
The forum is full of dilettantes (me being one of them) that post some absolutely unreadable nonsense.
I won`t even read this thread again because I know I`ll get targeted. So write what you want about me,I won`t see it.
Ps I`m also on a tennis forum and that`s even worse than here for bickering trolls.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:20
I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
How many here would have gleefully bought into mastertons crooked share issue if word hadn’t gotten out that it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on?
It’s funny though because posters still get treated like that today when they post something about the club that pretty much no one else knows nor do they want to believe a bit like when a few of us told you all that our previous German owners hadn’t been totally honest with the guy who was funding them and well here we are eh
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:28
A number of posters come across like the most important thing for them is to be proved right, rather than just for the club to be doing well. It`s like their perspective is wrong (in my opinion of course).
I`m not sure I`m explaining that well.
There`s also a tendency to go off topic, like a match thread, where folk aren`t focusing on the match but on previous performances and tactics (generally petty comments rather than anything insightful). In the match thread, I want to hear about how we`re playing in the match itself.
Since his name has been brought up, I think it`s fine that folk pick up Berkey on stuff that he writes, but on both sides of the argument, folk need to know when to agree to disagree and to stop turning every thread into the same discussion - "bickering" as someone has already said.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:42
I reckon more than a few members would post more often if the usual suspect "wiseguys" could refrain from demeaning smartass replies or comments - much as above.
Disagreeing with somebody is fine, it`s the nature of the beast - opinions differ, however put down responses, especially of a personal nature are unacceptable IMO.
I also think the mods could be more robust and nip matters in the bud before they escalate into mini dramas.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:51
Socks, since the setting up of this site I think a lot of the more knowledgeable and interesting contributors have either passed on or moved on. Before the Pars almost went into admin there were a host of folk who posted and whose opinions you looked forward to reading: I’m not saying I agreed with them all, but that’s the true nature of a forum.
Gradually it seems largely to have deteriorated into personal attacks - on other posters, on DAFC staff and players - which are often offensive, ill-informed and frankly not worthy of reading. I have to say too that many are so illiterate that it makes reading them difficult.
In general there is also a sad lack of respect - for fellow supporters and property. For example, I admire the support and the atmosphere that the NW Section brings to games, but I am absolutely fed up with the behaviour of some of them, their throwing of items, their pyrotechnics and the damage done to stadium facilities - both home and away. It particularly depresses me that some of the more “mature” posters on dotnet come out with comments like “let the laddies have a bit of fun” or, “boys will be boys” or “we were all young once”. In my view all of this is absolutely unacceptable. But if you dare to express such an opinion you are targeted with abuse.
Further I think the site itself needs a major rebuild - whilst I respect the work he’s done for DAFC I don’t think Brian’s done anything to improve it since it was set up. I find the adverts particularly irritating: I know they’re a revenue stream, but when you’re trying to read a stream and it’s jumping around like there’s no tomorrow I usually just give up. I did contact Brian some time ago with comments to this effect, but nothing was done and since then it’s got much worse.
There are a few posters I still look out for, yourself included, which is why I thought your OP worthy of a response, though I visit dotnet now only once in a blue moon and hardly contribute at all. Frankly it’s just not worth it any more.
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 16:34)
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:17
all good feedback and dialogue.
I`ll cover this point first:
Quote:
I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
people were not banned for making comments etc. people were posting sensitive information and we had calls from solicitors going to sue us.
I asked those people to stop posting said information and to reword it so that we would not be sued !
many many people had opinions at that time and posted information in such a way that it was general, a very few people were banned becuase I didn`t want myself or the website sued.
not sure how difficult it is for people to understand that logic.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:24
there was also a case where there was an option before admin where there was a new shareholding request that came out.
I advertised a poll on .net to guage people`s opinon.
the outcome of the poll was that 98% of the respondents did not want to see a new shareholding and provided valuable information. We fed that information back to the PUIC.
so it was down to DAFC.net and the fans that effectively caused the shareholding to fail.
it beggars belief to say that DAFC.net and admin were behind this and supported it. don`t shoot the messenger.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:24
The price of stamps and inconsistent delivery times 🤔🤭😉
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:29
I can’t be @rsed posting, apart from this one. Funny the usual ones who would start an argument in an empty house haven’t posted on this subject :-/
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:30
yorkiepar is also 100% correct, the website does need a complete update.
yes, the adverts can be annoying, but they bring in a fair bit of revenue.
the website was developed over 20 years ago and over the years updates have been done.
I did discuss the jumping about with adverts and will go back to the advertisisng company with the feedback again to see if it can be less irritating.
For 12 years one of my tasks was to work on the club website and at the time had a full time job. Then it got taken over 20 months ago. I then was working on ParsTV and streaming services, so not able to deal with all the extra work.
In recent years I have worked on new technology and new techniques, a lot could be used to develop a new website.
However, I won`t be hear in 20 years time so it needs others to come forward to help with a new website. As yorkie said an update was touched on a while ago, but needs to be looked at again.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:46
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 21 Jan 15:20
I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
How many here would have gleefully bought into mastertons crooked share issue if word hadn’t gotten out that it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on?
It’s funny though because posters still get treated like that today when they post something about the club that pretty much no one else knows nor do they want to believe a bit like when a few of us told you all that our previous German owners hadn’t been totally honest with the guy who was funding them and well here we are eh
We did lose a lot of posters around the administration period due to heavy handed admin on this forum at the time when it was supposed to be an independent voice from the club and dissenting voices were silenced despite being correct at a crucial point in our history.
That being said, we are now in 2025 and there is a general decline in these types of forums universally due to expansion in social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter(X), instagram etc etc so it becomes more like an echo chamber with the same bundle of posters on each thread.
Some reasoned and balanced
Some bad
Some on the wind up
This place, remarkably still has a high membership, most who probably read rather than contribute given how rare this format is these days but it no longer is the be all and end all as far as pars fans opinions go.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 16:47)
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:50
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 21 Jan 16:24
The price of stamps and inconsistent delivery times 🤔🤭😉
👏👏👏👏
Brilliant.
Post of the day imo
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 21 Jan 17:00
Almost all forums or social media have become more susceptible to derogatory comments or swipes or snide posts. Basically people hiding behind usernames behaving in ways and saying things they absolutely would never do face to face.
Where this forum has seen a real downfall in my opinion is the consistent level of bickering that goes on between regular posters. Every single thread never gets above 6 posts before someone has a dig at someone else or is needlessly unkind. No matter what the subject is. Then there’s a pile on, most posters of substance who used to make contributions (like Socks) have posted less and less, and the quality that remains is pretty poor fayre.
Other forums are slightly better though not by much. Recently pie and bovril which used to be quite funny and have some decent posters from other teams, has also become a bit of a bin fire. The other Pars forum is quiet as usual but again there are some posters there who just can’t help themselves with wee ITK digs at each other, but certainly not the level here.
Not sure what the answer is really, moderation being one of the tools I’d expect to be used. Bit of a checkered history that on here 👀.
Maybe encourage everyone to have a wee think before they post. If someone knew you and read what you’ve just written which is now pretty permanent (joy of the internet) how do you think that would make them feel about you?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 21 Jan 18:13
I post far too much probably but agree there are people who are quite tiresome. It`s a football forum and people will disagree and want to put counter arguments across, but some of it just gets silly with tit for tat stuff with people saying anyone being positive is a happy clapper and anyone being negative at Victor Meldrews. There are people who see no wrong and people who are miserable gits, but these people at the extreme though and the vast majority of people who post on here are very reasonable.
The single, biggest issue with web forums is comments have no tone so people will often misinterpret something as being cheeky depending on how it`s read.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 19:04
Same as many others tbh,
I`ve been posting here in some way shape or form since the late 90s, and it`s still one of my most visited sites. That said, I post much less frequently now (and I wasn`t very frequent to begin with).
Much like the rest of society it seems there`s no room for nuance on here. You post a thread looking to generate some reasoned debate and quickly it degenerates into a polarised argument between a couple of posters who have strong views and the thread becomes unreadable for everyone else.
Oh - and might be a personal thing, but I really hate it when people quote long posts. the quote takes up a whole screen and it`s hard to find the `new` bit.
Also, a lot of the more interesting posters from the past - slim/KGB, Sanguine_Par/bigtallpap, Digs (even Keyser Soze, the original dafc.net troll) don`t post here anymore. I didn`t agree with them all the them but they posted stuff that was worth reading.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:17
I read the threads quite a lot, occasionally posting, when I`ve got something to say.
I think it`s a pretty decent site, with a lot of different personalities on it. I quite like the mix. There are a few posters that could probably do with just reading and not posting as often. There`s one that does sometimes make some good points but because he only speaks about negatives and can`t even see the positive when the positive is the thing to be talking about, then it makes that opinion hard to take seriously- a bit more balance would raise his game. Then there`s another couple that seem to take the opposite view, and would start an argument in an empty house, they could probably do with just hauding their wheest a bit more often.
It would be good to hear more from Socks, Raymie The Legend, 7 Eleven who actually understand the game a bit more than most.
It would be also good if some of the people who used to post on here, but are now on Pie and Bovril and that other forum would come back. I have a look at those from time to time, but they are rubbish, if it wasn`t for people that are on this site going on and posting the same stuff they`ve already posted on here, then there would be nothing happening on those places at all.
As for me, I hope people realise that I`m not 100% serious in everything I say. Sometimes I am, but sometimes I`ll say something even I don`t believe in just for a bit of banter. It always does make me chuckle a bit when people make a personal attack on me, as I don`t mind that at all, it`s only words
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:33
[Post Deleted] - Utter Bollocks
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:48
Run the site? That`s a laugh! And I`ve never reported anyone even although I think some of the posts on here are probably libellous.
The thread was addressed to people who don`t post so often so I didn`t see the point in contributing until my name was mentioned. I`ve read all the posts though and was particularly impressed with yorkiepar`s contribution. I couldn`t quibble with any of it.
I`ve explained my standpoint numerous times on here but most folk aren`t interested. I think a lot of posters want this to be an echo chamber rather than a debating chamber.
If I`ve offended anyone I apologise. It tends to be collateral damage on social media generally I`m afraid.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:55
I wasn`t going to contribute to this but all I say is I have never asked for anyone to be kicked off this forum.
It`s been a good read though, certainly made me think.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:07
Another troll. Just what I needed today.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:31
It’s a shame this thread has become an invitation for trolls to spew bile. Cowards behind usernames claiming to support the Pars.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:44
What an irony that the four alleged to be running the site are posters who tend to be from the minority who urge caution when the negativity gets a bit excessive - `Happy clappers` in other words.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:04
And as if my points needed any further evidence to back them up, just see above.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:04
please don`t bite with these trolls, just causing trouble.
and they complain about getting carded :o))
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:34
[Post Deleted] - Whinging
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:49
😅😅 there we go…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 21 Jan 23:07
Hey! Who deleted my post?
Did one of the famous four report me for making a joke? That`s it, I`m away to post on the "other forum"!
(for the avoidance of any doubt, my deleted post was tongue in cheek as I know none of the people mentioned control anything on this forum and also don`t care about it being deleted because I`m a big boy)
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