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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Mon 20 Jan 23:52
Just following on from coventrypar`s post on another thread. It does seem that the forum is now dominated by a handful of regulars, with a lot of the less frequent posters who I used to enjoy reading having pretty much given up entirely. It would be interesting to get an idea as to why we`ve gone this way.
I`ve become less regular myself in recent years and I think most of it is because I just can`t be arsed with the level of aggression, much of it passive, that fills the forum. That`s particularly so at times (as recently) when I don`t feel very strong emotionally. Subjecting myself to that stuff when I feel like that just doesn`t feel safe. I`m pretty sure I`ve said things in the past that weren`t very nice so I don`t want that to sound all high-handed, but sometimes it`s worth remembering that the person you think is being a fanny and talking nonsense might not be having a great time.
The almost constant snidey, nippy comments are just really offputting. I also find the comments that essentially complain about a lack of kindness being shown towards players, management, etc. but which then attack another poster in very unkind terms, to be really odd. I`m always struck that the person doesn`t notice the contradiction.
Are football forums more prone to it than others? I don`t know as they tend to be the only places I write anything online. Maybe it`s just the way of the internet generally? Someone might well be thinking `maybe the internet is not for you` and maybe it`s not. But it`s a bit of a shame if that is the case.
Anyone else who doesn`t post all that often have any views on this?
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:22
In total I think I`ve posted in single figures. The main deterrent for me is the sense of entitlement by those who rant on and demand this, that and the next thing from the board or manager, which does does lend itself to a reasoned discussion when a balanced counter post is made.
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Topic Originator: jdafc
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:47
I have ben a member of the forum for a long time and been reading it for much longer. Joined in 2000.
I very rarely post because there`s usually someone who will post exactly what I`m thinking, so there`s no real need to. (Not always the same people).
I have seen many posters come and go. Some who are missed, most who aren`t.
Having moved up to the Broch 11 years ago, I don`t get to many games, probably half a dozen a season, I have found that I rely more on the forum for my feedback.
Unfortunately, the place seems to have been hijacked by a few posters who are all over everything like a rash and if anyone dares to post something they don`t subscribe to then the level of abuse is quite disturbing.
I can`t really be bothered by letting someone on a forum annoy me so much that I simply have to engage in childish bickering, so I don`t understand why there`s so much of it on here. We are all supposedly fans of the same club and yet there seems to be very little common ground at times.
Granted, there are times that it`s quite amusing being on the outside looking in as some folk wind themselves up to breaking point and the square go invitations are getting written.
However, I do read the forum every day. I get my wee fix from some of the good stuff that`s written on here about my club.
Always a Par
JD
Post Edited (Wed 22 Jan 15:40)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 21 Jan 06:56
I`ll respond to other`s posts but unlikely to post my own thread because of the herd mentality and pervading superiority complex in here, that and straight off the bat someone insinuated they had "confirmed who I am" which to this day hasn`t been cleared up, I can only say again, that`s unlikely but it is what it is.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:27
Another good, thought-provoking OP. Long may these continue. I wonder if this and Coventry`s post have been inspired by a sense of frustration at some of the juvenile bickering and trading of insults that go on here sometimes?
I don`t think Socks` question really applies to me as I`m on the forum quite a lot. I try not to get involved with those posters who seemingly go out of their way to provoke fellow Pars fans, but that`s not always easy. The most disappointing aspect of the forum for me is the way a few posters can turn a positive post like Coventry`s titled "Joe Chalmers" into a negative. It`s not as if we haven`t heard it all before. You don`t rate a player? Fair enough, but do we have to have it explained to us how you came to this conclusion on a daily basis?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:34
😊
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Fri 24 Jan 23:27)
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 21 Jan 07:50
Spot on Socks.
A small few on here have pretty much made me stop posting.
I still come on for a gander and most of it is good opinionated stuff. But when this small few get involved they suck the life out of everyone else. They used to rip my knitting but now I just have a chuckle to myself.
So that`s kinda stopped me posting.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 08:20
great post Socks. thanks for posting.
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Tue 21 Jan 08:48
Most of the time I don’t have strong enough opinions or the mental energy to post.
As for the bickering, that would be radically reduced if folks had the discipline to “play the ball, not the man”. Have the strength to refrain from commenting on the poster’s personal attributes (usually perceived negativity or positivity). Go after their rationales, not their human nature.
This is my signature
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 09:00)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:12
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
I think my point is its almost like there is no women Pars Fan like Buffy. I absolutely beg to differ. Folk need to watch on here. We all love the club.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:15
Yes, I stopped posting for a couple of years, mainly because my password didn`t work and I didn`t bother correcting it! I don`t live for it.
It`s true I don`t post if someone has posted what I think anyway, if there`s a decent story (new manager etc) then it`s busy anyway
.There does appear to be just a handful of regular posters though, most are good, but my goodness there`s a lot of nippy people out there, just looking to correct one single mistake.
Also don`t like the language used `wage thief` etc. these are honest pros, no player is making money in 2nd tier Scottish football, and there`s a high % of Pars fans that will earn more than the players. General abuse I don`t like, and there`s a fair bit of it.
I look here and pie and Bovril for updates, tend to find P & B doesn`t have so many raspers.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:22
I don’t understand your point, 87Par. You said you didn’t get it yet you “got it” here….
“87Par
Wed 13 Mar 08:03
Buffy, Wed 13 Mar 07:16
I’ll hud yer jaiket, EET
Would you hold mine too please Buffy hen?”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Fri 24 Jan 23:29)
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:23
I post on occasion and always do so respectfully without trying to cause any offence whilst publishing my thoughts or opinions.
It`s a great platform to share information and opinions whilst getting a flavour of others opinions, moods, ideas, etc
I do enjoy the banter 😄
However some posters cannot seem to tell the difference between Banter v. Bullying.
I have noticed on many occasions that sometimes banter can evolve into bullying and is reminiscent of a table of drunken men squabbling at their local pub.
Behind the keyboard they can dress themselves up in their very best Super Hero attire and dawn extraordinary powers of bravery in attacking other people`s opinions from "very far away".....
Best to just let them, "Enjoy their night mate"!
DunfyDave
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 09:24)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:25
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 21 Jan 04:55
Quote:
87Par, Tue 21 Jan 03:36
I`ll pipe up on this. I work nights. A fair amount of the time. I`ve been conditioned and ordered to be Dunfermline since I was born. 87 of course. (No child was harmed )
I read a thread not that long ago. Something about someone challenged Luxembourg Par. Or someone like that. And Buffy Par wrote "I`ll haud yer jaiket" meaning on you go cos I know you and you are a better Pars Fan than that one.
There is a massive fan base out there. In all the villages outside of the town. Where I am. Where Bert Paton is from actually. The entitlement on this thread is utterly astounding at times.
There are thousands of Pars fans out there. Not just this wee circle
I think Buffy was being funny, not picking sides. She knows Lux Par was a boxer in his distant youth. ( I think)
I don`t post so much because I don`t have time. I work nightshift because I care for my wife and disabled son through the day. A humbling experience that has helped me focus on the important things in life. I used to be very gobby on here, quite a smart ass really, but I hope I have turned that round a bit over the last couple of years. I still let go sometimes, but like Socks says, sometimes I need to vent, and I am sorry, but here seems to be where I do it.
I must say that in 15 or so years of reading dotnet, I have never heard Socks say anything out of hand to, or about anyone. Apart from me on the odd occasion when I was being gobby. Even then, he would do it in a manner that would encourage me to take a wee look at myself rather than issue a retort.
And case and point. Most of us don`t know Buffy. So we don`t really get it. You know what a mean.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:38
for me its the repetitive things on every post which just makes threads/forum unbearable at times. Many of the level headed posters who offer valuble opinions etc have stopped or seldom post as socks highlights and replaced with childish wind up merchants who become aggressive. When the sensible posts are there they are buried in the middle of the nonsense so are often missed.
Some good ideas posted elsewhere to enhance the forum. a "block" or "ignore" option for certain posters. The old rogues gallery used to be good and felt more like a community as you could put a face who you were talking to and see them at games etc rather than the anonimity of the people who create email address after email address for multiple log ins and post abusive/nonsense wind up posts.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 09:43
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 25 Jan 00:03)
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Tue 21 Jan 10:12
I used to be a more frequent poster but now I`ll just read most threads rather than add to them as someone usually covers my thoughts in their comments.
One thing that frustrates me though, is when someone falsely accuses you of something thats just not true. I was recently accused by a poster of `always replying to my posts with something crappy` and ` a grown man acting the way you do. It`s pathetic`.
That stuff kinda wears me down and puts me off posting.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 21 Jan 10:24
There certainly seems to be a hierarchy on the forum.
Pouncing on anyone who doesn’t share their opinion.
We’re all Pars fans at the end of the day and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thoughts.
No one is any better than anyone else.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:14
I`m probably wearing rose tinted goggles but I do miss the old random utterly comedic stupid threads that popped up from time to time (in a good way).
Some posters can be relied on for kindness (I`ll bring a bed round for free being a good example), some for interesting points and others for reacting badly to any perceived disagreement or a different opinion being held. Two ears one mouth is always a good approach in my experience.
Generally, it`s an interesting place to hear what`s going on, learning some new things, but I think it has lost a little edge in terms of being a community and turned into folk looking for a scrap in an empty room.
Thanks to admin for continuing to run it. And I hope those above who have suggested they haven`t been in the optimum place recently are starting to feel a bit better. Can`t wait for more vitamin D myself and some improved results.
I`d probably post more if there was more positivity around.
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Great OP.
That’s the way of social media, we just accept the nonsense with a smile and a shake of the head.
Interesting to see a few on this thread already falling into the same old habit and posting stuff Socks originally posted about!
I post when I think I can add something, often others post with much more detailed knowledge than me and I enjoy that. Keep posting, we’re all Pars fans.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Perplexed as to why Buffy, one of the nicest posters on here, got singled out for some treatment. I assume 87Par never looks into the politics forum!
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 21 Jan 11:56
There definitely is a heirarchy on here, and these posters seem to take delight in referring to posters by their real name, basically highlighting that they know so many other posters on a personal basis. It’s like this forum gives them their purpose in life.
Also so many threads descend in to one on one arguing with comments like “show me where I said that” or “ read my post again”. If you can’t just step away and you feel the need to prove every point on an internet forum, then this site has got too big a hold on your life.
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:00
Used to post a wee bit but not a lot. Now I barely ever post
To offer an alternative view, the snidey comments and arguments actually don`t put me off as any online forum tends to have this anyway.
As sad as it is to say, I just don`t have the passion for the Pars I used to any more. The events of the last few years on and off the pitch and rising costs have made it really difficult to prioritise supporting the Pars over other things. Just a few years ago I was a home and away supporter with a season ticket. This season I have been to 2 games.
I`d say I`ve gone from a die hard to a part timer who goes on this forum only to check the rumour mill now and again, which a few years ago I would never have seen happening.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:10
Quote:
SeasonedPar, Tue 21 Jan 11:52
Interesting to see a few on this thread already falling into the same old habit and posting stuff Socks originally posted about!
Without confirming some sort of agreement then all you`ll get is disagreement.
That`s why the like buttons are quite important on a forum. Having to type out a lot in response (and for it to then be read) isn`t really in anyone`s best interests!
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:15
I relish the cut and thrust of the politics forum. My rapier wit reigns supreme ..like D’Artagnan would have toyed with with a dozen clumsy claymore clodhoppers without shoogling his perm
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:19
Not for the first time ,I agree with Socks
Andy
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:31
"The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads."
GG4, I agree, I actually think Berkey makes a lot of valid points, but he gets hammered.
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 21 Jan 12:38
Quote:
GG4, Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
Absolutely this. Every thread berkey posts in gets ruined, not because of him, but because people are very clearly trying to harass him. That’s just one example though, there’s been numerous examples of this, with different users involved. It seems like if you’re trying to provide a different perspective, you’re not welcome here. The regulars seem to quickly get rid of any new posters.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:05
I`ve been reading this forum for several years but only recently started posting. Whilst I enjoy a lot of the banter, I find the abuse and sarcasm towards players, management and other posters very off-putting. My dad took me to my first Pars game v Celtic in 1961 and I worked in the Commercial Department during the 90s. These days, I perhaps watch Edinburgh City almost as often as the Pars because Meadowbank is a mere 20 minute walk from my home, and in all that time I have never verbally abused a player of any team, although I admit to booing when the occasion merits it. Good natured banter is fine, but verbal abuse and downright sarcasm can be very hurtful. As a footnote, I still think we should be monitoring Connor Young! 😊
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:22
I like talking about players, and tactics, and the opposition, and grounds, and kit, and all that stuff. Sadly there seems to be very few posters who share an interest in shapes and tactics. There seems to be very few posters who can look at a player objectively (good or bad) without stuff becoming personal. There seems to be very few posters who have an appreciation of or interest in other clubs in the division. There are a few that share an appreciation for nice or quirky or unusual grounds and strips (I liked the jersey the Stenhousemuir boys were wearing on Saturday) but those threads are few and far between. There are however multiple posts alagging off individual posters, there seems to be a massive anti-David Cook cabal who slag him in almost every thread and there are fewer posters who contribute these days. So I stick to Pie and Bovril and a group chat I`m in.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:23
Quote:
par-91, Tue 21 Jan 12:38
Quote:
GG4, Tue 21 Jan 11:18
The constant sniping by 2 certain posters on Berkey have a lot to do with it. It ruins most threads.
Used to post regular but prefer to read now.
This antiquated forum needs an ignore function.
Absolutely this. Every thread berkey posts in gets ruined, not because of him, but because people are very clearly trying to harass him. That’s just one example though, there’s been numerous examples of this, with different users involved. It seems like if you’re trying to provide a different perspective, you’re not welcome here. The regulars seem to quickly get rid of any new posters.
This 100%.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 21 Jan 13:27
I`m not in a good place mentally so having people jump all over me because of an obvious joke is a bit much. Keyboard warriors never used to bother me but for some reason they now hurt my feelings. Maybe I`m being precious but that`s how I feel.
Then there is the constant negativity, it`s non stop. The new manager wasn`t even officially announced but already the usual crowd were all over him. Not good enough, no ambition, bargain basement manager etc.
The main reason though is the general apathy I feel towards the club. I`m just not as interested as I used to be. I`m more interested in my second club, Newcastle.
The forum is full of dilettantes (me being one of them) that post some absolutely unreadable nonsense.
I won`t even read this thread again because I know I`ll get targeted. So write what you want about me,I won`t see it.
Ps I`m also on a tennis forum and that`s even worse than here for bickering trolls.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:20
I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
How many here would have gleefully bought into mastertons crooked share issue if word hadn’t gotten out that it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on?
It’s funny though because posters still get treated like that today when they post something about the club that pretty much no one else knows nor do they want to believe a bit like when a few of us told you all that our previous German owners hadn’t been totally honest with the guy who was funding them and well here we are eh
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:28
A number of posters come across like the most important thing for them is to be proved right, rather than just for the club to be doing well. It`s like their perspective is wrong (in my opinion of course).
I`m not sure I`m explaining that well.
There`s also a tendency to go off topic, like a match thread, where folk aren`t focusing on the match but on previous performances and tactics (generally petty comments rather than anything insightful). In the match thread, I want to hear about how we`re playing in the match itself.
Since his name has been brought up, I think it`s fine that folk pick up Berkey on stuff that he writes, but on both sides of the argument, folk need to know when to agree to disagree and to stop turning every thread into the same discussion - "bickering" as someone has already said.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:42
I reckon more than a few members would post more often if the usual suspect "wiseguys" could refrain from demeaning smartass replies or comments - much as above.
Disagreeing with somebody is fine, it`s the nature of the beast - opinions differ, however put down responses, especially of a personal nature are unacceptable IMO.
I also think the mods could be more robust and nip matters in the bud before they escalate into mini dramas.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Tue 21 Jan 15:51
Socks, since the setting up of this site I think a lot of the more knowledgeable and interesting contributors have either passed on or moved on. Before the Pars almost went into admin there were a host of folk who posted and whose opinions you looked forward to reading: I’m not saying I agreed with them all, but that’s the true nature of a forum.
Gradually it seems largely to have deteriorated into personal attacks - on other posters, on DAFC staff and players - which are often offensive, ill-informed and frankly not worthy of reading. I have to say too that many are so illiterate that it makes reading them difficult.
In general there is also a sad lack of respect - for fellow supporters and property. For example, I admire the support and the atmosphere that the NW Section brings to games, but I am absolutely fed up with the behaviour of some of them, their throwing of items, their pyrotechnics and the damage done to stadium facilities - both home and away. It particularly depresses me that some of the more “mature” posters on dotnet come out with comments like “let the laddies have a bit of fun” or, “boys will be boys” or “we were all young once”. In my view all of this is absolutely unacceptable. But if you dare to express such an opinion you are targeted with abuse.
Further I think the site itself needs a major rebuild - whilst I respect the work he’s done for DAFC I don’t think Brian’s done anything to improve it since it was set up. I find the adverts particularly irritating: I know they’re a revenue stream, but when you’re trying to read a stream and it’s jumping around like there’s no tomorrow I usually just give up. I did contact Brian some time ago with comments to this effect, but nothing was done and since then it’s got much worse.
There are a few posters I still look out for, yourself included, which is why I thought your OP worthy of a response, though I visit dotnet now only once in a blue moon and hardly contribute at all. Frankly it’s just not worth it any more.
Post Edited (Tue 21 Jan 16:34)
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:17
all good feedback and dialogue.
I`ll cover this point first:
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I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
people were not banned for making comments etc. people were posting sensitive information and we had calls from solicitors going to sue us.
I asked those people to stop posting said information and to reword it so that we would not be sued !
many many people had opinions at that time and posted information in such a way that it was general, a very few people were banned becuase I didn`t want myself or the website sued.
not sure how difficult it is for people to understand that logic.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:24
there was also a case where there was an option before admin where there was a new shareholding request that came out.
I advertised a poll on .net to guage people`s opinon.
the outcome of the poll was that 98% of the respondents did not want to see a new shareholding and provided valuable information. We fed that information back to the PUIC.
so it was down to DAFC.net and the fans that effectively caused the shareholding to fail.
it beggars belief to say that DAFC.net and admin were behind this and supported it. don`t shoot the messenger.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:24
The price of stamps and inconsistent delivery times 🤔🤭😉
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:29
I can’t be @rsed posting, apart from this one. Funny the usual ones who would start an argument in an empty house haven’t posted on this subject :-/
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:30
yorkiepar is also 100% correct, the website does need a complete update.
yes, the adverts can be annoying, but they bring in a fair bit of revenue.
the website was developed over 20 years ago and over the years updates have been done.
I did discuss the jumping about with adverts and will go back to the advertisisng company with the feedback again to see if it can be less irritating.
For 12 years one of my tasks was to work on the club website and at the time had a full time job. Then it got taken over 20 months ago. I then was working on ParsTV and streaming services, so not able to deal with all the extra work.
In recent years I have worked on new technology and new techniques, a lot could be used to develop a new website.
However, I won`t be hear in 20 years time so it needs others to come forward to help with a new website. As yorkie said an update was touched on a while ago, but needs to be looked at again.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:46
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 21 Jan 15:20
I stopped posting regularly after it became clear this forum had died on its @rse when folk who had the clubs best interests at heart were banned for making it known that all wasn’t well with the club in the lead up to admin
How many here would have gleefully bought into mastertons crooked share issue if word hadn’t gotten out that it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on?
It’s funny though because posters still get treated like that today when they post something about the club that pretty much no one else knows nor do they want to believe a bit like when a few of us told you all that our previous German owners hadn’t been totally honest with the guy who was funding them and well here we are eh
We did lose a lot of posters around the administration period due to heavy handed admin on this forum at the time when it was supposed to be an independent voice from the club and dissenting voices were silenced despite being correct at a crucial point in our history.
That being said, we are now in 2025 and there is a general decline in these types of forums universally due to expansion in social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter(X), instagram etc etc so it becomes more like an echo chamber with the same bundle of posters on each thread.
Some reasoned and balanced
Some bad
Some on the wind up
This place, remarkably still has a high membership, most who probably read rather than contribute given how rare this format is these days but it no longer is the be all and end all as far as pars fans opinions go.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Tue 21 Jan 16:50
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 21 Jan 16:24
The price of stamps and inconsistent delivery times 🤔🤭😉
👏👏👏👏
Brilliant.
Post of the day imo
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 21 Jan 17:00
Almost all forums or social media have become more susceptible to derogatory comments or swipes or snide posts. Basically people hiding behind usernames behaving in ways and saying things they absolutely would never do face to face.
Where this forum has seen a real downfall in my opinion is the consistent level of bickering that goes on between regular posters. Every single thread never gets above 6 posts before someone has a dig at someone else or is needlessly unkind. No matter what the subject is. Then there’s a pile on, most posters of substance who used to make contributions (like Socks) have posted less and less, and the quality that remains is pretty poor fayre.
Other forums are slightly better though not by much. Recently pie and bovril which used to be quite funny and have some decent posters from other teams, has also become a bit of a bin fire. The other Pars forum is quiet as usual but again there are some posters there who just can’t help themselves with wee ITK digs at each other, but certainly not the level here.
Not sure what the answer is really, moderation being one of the tools I’d expect to be used. Bit of a checkered history that on here 👀.
Maybe encourage everyone to have a wee think before they post. If someone knew you and read what you’ve just written which is now pretty permanent (joy of the internet) how do you think that would make them feel about you?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 21 Jan 18:13
I post far too much probably but agree there are people who are quite tiresome. It`s a football forum and people will disagree and want to put counter arguments across, but some of it just gets silly with tit for tat stuff with people saying anyone being positive is a happy clapper and anyone being negative at Victor Meldrews. There are people who see no wrong and people who are miserable gits, but these people at the extreme though and the vast majority of people who post on here are very reasonable.
The single, biggest issue with web forums is comments have no tone so people will often misinterpret something as being cheeky depending on how it`s read.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 19:04
Same as many others tbh,
I`ve been posting here in some way shape or form since the late 90s, and it`s still one of my most visited sites. That said, I post much less frequently now (and I wasn`t very frequent to begin with).
Much like the rest of society it seems there`s no room for nuance on here. You post a thread looking to generate some reasoned debate and quickly it degenerates into a polarised argument between a couple of posters who have strong views and the thread becomes unreadable for everyone else.
Oh - and might be a personal thing, but I really hate it when people quote long posts. the quote takes up a whole screen and it`s hard to find the `new` bit.
Also, a lot of the more interesting posters from the past - slim/KGB, Sanguine_Par/bigtallpap, Digs (even Keyser Soze, the original dafc.net troll) don`t post here anymore. I didn`t agree with them all the them but they posted stuff that was worth reading.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:17
I read the threads quite a lot, occasionally posting, when I`ve got something to say.
I think it`s a pretty decent site, with a lot of different personalities on it. I quite like the mix. There are a few posters that could probably do with just reading and not posting as often. There`s one that does sometimes make some good points but because he only speaks about negatives and can`t even see the positive when the positive is the thing to be talking about, then it makes that opinion hard to take seriously- a bit more balance would raise his game. Then there`s another couple that seem to take the opposite view, and would start an argument in an empty house, they could probably do with just hauding their wheest a bit more often.
It would be good to hear more from Socks, Raymie The Legend, 7 Eleven who actually understand the game a bit more than most.
It would be also good if some of the people who used to post on here, but are now on Pie and Bovril and that other forum would come back. I have a look at those from time to time, but they are rubbish, if it wasn`t for people that are on this site going on and posting the same stuff they`ve already posted on here, then there would be nothing happening on those places at all.
As for me, I hope people realise that I`m not 100% serious in everything I say. Sometimes I am, but sometimes I`ll say something even I don`t believe in just for a bit of banter. It always does make me chuckle a bit when people make a personal attack on me, as I don`t mind that at all, it`s only words
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:33
[Post Deleted] - Utter Bollocks
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:48
Run the site? That`s a laugh! And I`ve never reported anyone even although I think some of the posts on here are probably libellous.
The thread was addressed to people who don`t post so often so I didn`t see the point in contributing until my name was mentioned. I`ve read all the posts though and was particularly impressed with yorkiepar`s contribution. I couldn`t quibble with any of it.
I`ve explained my standpoint numerous times on here but most folk aren`t interested. I think a lot of posters want this to be an echo chamber rather than a debating chamber.
If I`ve offended anyone I apologise. It tends to be collateral damage on social media generally I`m afraid.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 21 Jan 20:55
I wasn`t going to contribute to this but all I say is I have never asked for anyone to be kicked off this forum.
It`s been a good read though, certainly made me think.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:07
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 25 Jan 00:02)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:31
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 25 Jan 00:04)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 Jan 21:44
What an irony that the four alleged to be running the site are posters who tend to be from the minority who urge caution when the negativity gets a bit excessive - `Happy clappers` in other words.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:04
And as if my points needed any further evidence to back them up, just see above.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:04
please don`t bite with these trolls, just causing trouble.
and they complain about getting carded :o))
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 21 Jan 22:34
[Post Deleted] - Whinging
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 21 Jan 23:07
Hey! Who deleted my post?
Did one of the famous four report me for making a joke? That`s it, I`m away to post on the "other forum"!
(for the avoidance of any doubt, my deleted post was tongue in cheek as I know none of the people mentioned control anything on this forum and also don`t care about it being deleted because I`m a big boy)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 22 Jan 10:53
I see this post had descended into what a lot of posters have said. Folk explain why they don’t post often, get accused of being trolls for having an opinion that others don’t agree with, it really is quite ridiculous.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 22 Jan 11:00
Somebody said I and a few others `run the site`. It`s nonsense. like a lot of stuff on here it`s based on speculation and innuendo. What am I supposed to do? Ignore it, which would probably give it some credibility? I wasn`t going to post on this thread until that happened.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Wed 22 Jan 11:36
This thread reads like a .net stream of consciousness.
We are only ever 2, possibly 3 wins away from Shangri-la.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 22 Jan 12:03
Can I had bloody stupid pictures of hats to my list please?
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Wed 22 Jan 12:20
Socks’ original point well made by now.
You’ve got to laugh.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 22 Jan 12:45
Don’t feed the trolls
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Wed 22 Jan 14:37)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 22 Jan 13:25
I started using .net in the late 90’s (Pompey_Par). When I left the navy and returned home, life kind of took over and with not attending the football as much, I just drifted away from the board really.
Then when I was in a position to make posts and attend games weekly, I signed back up but what I had previously enjoyed soon faded and it’s because every thread (even this one) just descends into carnage and name calling and just turns into bile. The other Pars message board doesn’t but somehow this one does.
It gets to the stage, I just don’t bother, which is sad because I do love proper debates and discussions, regardless if I agree or not but if I don’t and people are justifying their view then I have no issue with it.
The breaking point for me was when a poster was continually asking if someone could find any success stories with our now owners and they couldn’t. I asked why would it matter if people could, it doesn’t change anything and it was better to just wait and see the happened. The next time I logged in there was insulting replies to my comment and like always the thread had decended into a slagging match and chaos. I decided then that I’d be more of a reader than poster, but I do chip in with the odd things but genuinely don’t.
I think the long quote function (mentioned in a post above) is also frustrating and at times can make me close down threads.
So to sum up, what stops you posting more often….it’s the attitudes and behaviour of other posters if I’m being perfectly honest.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Wed 22 Jan 13:39
it looks like we should tackle the problem, not sure how but certainly worth further dialogue.
just as an example how upset people are (for whatever reason),
no I didn`t go out with his wife !! ha ha
as I already said, I think its old history relating to the admin era.
but I bet he hasn`t raised any where near the money for the club and groups that dafc.net, parsTV etc has.
Quote:
https://forum.pieandbovril.com/topic/293502-dunfermline-v-ayr/page/7/#comments
On 14/01/2025 at 11:50, DA Baracus said:
ParsTV is utter trash run by scum.
DA Baracus Posted January 14
What’s the story with the last bit of that quote mate?
This is the worst that I have seen ParsTV but safe to say I’m delighted with how the game is going. I just hope we don’t regret not scoring when we were on top 😬😬
Owner/guy who runs it is an utter rat.[/quite]
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Topic Originator: irishmcbride
Date: Wed 22 Jan 18:19
I`ve been a member of the forum since the 90s, stopped bothering to post about a decade ago because generally it wasn`t worth the nonsense. I think it was that power tripping Thai-based guy who just eventually did it for me.
Living in England now the media isn`t exactly hoachin` with Pars news so I still check in every now and then, usually just to discover every thread descends into a power of guff within about six posts, with the exception of a few posters who seem to know what they`re talking about. They`re definitely in the minority though.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 23 Jan 01:54
Every post/thread doesn’t take long to descend into snide remarks and petty arguments, always by the same minority.
Don’t need the hassle.
COYP
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Thu 23 Jan 03:47
Socks, good post as always.
I don’t post that often anymore. To me, one issue is that some posters will post constantly on a single thread. So even if someone makes an interesting point, it gets lost among drivel. When I read the site now, I usually skim for the posters who make good points.
I wonder if posters could be limited to 3 posts per thread — although that wouldn’t work for posters covering events. It might limit the drivel and cause posters to make considered points instead of a stream of consciousness through endless posts. Just a thought.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 23 Jan 07:34
-- Like/no like
-- Limit posters to 5 posts per thread
-- Delete lies/attacks/personal attacks
All been done over the years but admin get abuse so been removed, except the removal of posts has sprung up again.
This forum is being attacked and lies being spread. It`s done on purpose to attract users to other forum(s)
If ParsTV was bad and didn`t work then the club would have shut it down, true feedback from users gets through to the club, not any of the anonymous posters who spread lies.
There are so many good people about put off by this very small minority.
For me it`s utterly depressing to see this going on.
I`m all for the feedback on this thread to be seriously looked at by the respected users from this forum and let`s have a plan on the way forward.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Thu 23 Jan 08:32
There is also an issue with auto pessimistic posts that reference non-negative comments that simply don`t exist.
Several times I find myself reading negative comments referencing posts that were never posted or comments that were never made.
Human behaviour can never fully be understood and can be bizarre at times and I doubt you can ever fully insure against this. Sometimes it can be refreshing and enlightening and perhaps that is why I am still drawn to this forum.
I have seen on my wife`s Facebook a lovely tool that allows users to "thumbs up/down" posts that draw attention. Perhaps this could be added although it would make no difference to bullying or infighting
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 23 Jan 09:51
I can resurrect the thumbs up and down however the trolls just use it to stir up things.
I really don`t know where respect has gone for these people.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 23 Jan 10:19
Quote:
brian, Thu 23 Jan 09:51
I can resurrect the thumbs up and down however the trolls just use it to stir up things.
I really don`t know where respect has gone for these people.
Ask the 5 whys. If at the end it still is not clear from the requestor then it is not valid.
Edit: Brian, send me an email and I will give my number.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 23 Jan 10:36
"it looks like we should tackle the problem, not sure how but certainly worth further dialogue."
As I suggested earlier - be more robust with the perpetrators.
Deny them attention and oxygen of publicity that feeds their egos etc.
I wouldn`t worry about popularity - referees struggle in that opinion poll !!!
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 23 Jan 11:00
Ok thanks will do.
Grant emailed to ask why he got a red card
Stupid or dumb comes to mind 🤣🤭
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 23 Jan 11:01
He`s neither.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 23 Jan 11:55
As a user it would be helpful to understand the difference between post content being deleted, and seen as such:-
[Post Deleted] - Inappropriate Comment
vs
Posts just vanishing like they never existed.
What situations are these used?
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 23 Jan 11:59
Generally I agree with you but giving some the time of day isn`t helpful
p.s. I deleted my post. Sorry 😁
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 23 Jan 12:00
Given the number of suspected duplicate accounts, is admin able to spot these based on IP?
It`s been a while since I registered but perhaps part of the process could be verifying who a person is to prevent serial trolls registering again after being banned.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 23 Jan 12:01
Quote:
brian, Thu 23 Jan 11:00
Ok thanks will do.
Grant emailed to ask why he got a red card
Stupid or dumb comes to mind 🤣🤭
That`ll inspire good behaviour for sure.
🙄
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Thu 23 Jan 12:16
Quote:
brian, Thu 23 Jan 11:00
Ok thanks will do.
Grant emailed to ask why he got a red card
Stupid or dumb comes to mind 🤣🤭
Stupid or dumb comes more to mind when someone reveals details of an email and responds to it on here...........
Such a shame that there is no place for reasoned debate mixed in with a bit of a laugh on here without , as this thread has proven, it descending into anarchy
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 23 Jan 12:56
No being funny but maybe some don’t realise why they are receiving yellow/red cards. Even if you didn’t want to address it each individual time it occurs, maybe a post/thread somewhere with explanations/examples 🤷🏻♂️
Sometimes when I’ve looked it was obvious why a card was handed out but others times, less so. I know they may have posted something I’ve not seen but perhaps not and maybe I’m not seeing something I should.
COYP
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Thu 23 Jan 13:03
Quote:
brian, Thu 23 Jan 11:00
Ok thanks will do.
Grant emailed to ask why he got a red card
Stupid or dumb comes to mind 🤣🤭
Prime example of why people don`t post on here.
Brian - how can you read the majority of reasonable posts on this thread, and then respond with a post like that?
Let me guess. "It`s banter".
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Thu 23 Jan 13:28
And you`ve just deleted my post ?
All I said was `wow` in reponse to your remarks towards Grant.
Jeez.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 23 Jan 14:14
I used to find Grant quite annoying before. Sometimes a bit abrasive and full of his own importance, but he could occasionally make some good points and knew some stuff about football, so I always read what he had to say. The forum is poorer without these different opinions and characters
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Thu 23 Jan 14:36
There is way too much negativity out there in the real world (Gaza, Ukraine, etc). Being a fan, for me, should be about fun (win, lose, or draw).
Taking every opportunity to slam an individual player or member of the management team or a member of the board can turn a forum visit into yet another dose of negativity. Something I don`t want or need. Some posters come over as wind-up merchants/trolls.
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Topic Originator: msgribbin
Date: Thu 23 Jan 14:44
Most points have already been well made but I agree that the general bickering/occasional toxicity undermine what can otherwise be a very good forum.
If there`s space to look at basic design changes then capped number of posts per thread, character limit on quote function and threads broken into pages rather than massive scrollfests would be good
But mostly it seems to be about moderation. A truly thankless and exasperating task quite honestly. How many moderators are there ? Are more needed ? Also a reset on rules of engagement. Just personally, not a fan of yellow and red cards. If a post is unacceptable it should simply be removed with a pro-forma notification to poster eg offensive/trolling/defamatory etc
Mark G
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Thu 23 Jan 16:38
I posted about a year ago (in a fairly polite way) that we needed a stronger frontman and that Wighton wasn’t the man, unless he maybe had a bit more gym time. I got ripped apart by people that obviously know the game better than I do with comments to the effect that “if you (me) think scoring goals is the most important thing we should be doing then you’ve obviously not got a clue about football” (with some further expletives thrown in). I accepted that the knowledge of a lot of people on the board was simply on a different level to mine and that I’d clearly shown my own lack of understanding of the game by suggesting that a decent attacking player who could mix it a bit would be a benefit. I’ve since eaten my words, of course, as Wighton has proved me so wrong.. I don’t post much anymore….
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 23 Jan 16:57
Quote:
DunPar, Thu 23 Jan 16:38
I posted about a year ago (in a fairly polite way) that we needed a stronger frontman and that Wighton wasn’t the man, unless he maybe had a bit more gym time. I got ripped apart by people that obviously know the game better than I do with comments to the effect that “if you (me) think scoring goals is the most important thing we should be doing then you’ve obviously not got a clue about football” (with some further expletives thrown in). I accepted that the knowledge of a lot of people on the board was simply on a different level to mine and that I’d clearly shown my own lack of understanding of the game by suggesting that a decent attacking player who could mix it a bit would be a benefit. I’ve since eaten my words, of course, as Wighton has proved me so wrong.. I don’t post much anymore….
Funny enough I got the same when I questioned wightons fitness. I was also been proved wrong.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 23 Jan 18:55
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 23 Jan 16:57
Quote:
DunPar, Thu 23 Jan 16:38
I posted about a year ago (in a fairly polite way) that we needed a stronger frontman and that Wighton wasn’t the man, unless he maybe had a bit more gym time. I got ripped apart by people that obviously know the game better than I do with comments to the effect that “if you (me) think scoring goals is the most important thing we should be doing then you’ve obviously not got a clue about football” (with some further expletives thrown in). I accepted that the knowledge of a lot of people on the board was simply on a different level to mine and that I’d clearly shown my own lack of understanding of the game by suggesting that a decent attacking player who could mix it a bit would be a benefit. I’ve since eaten my words, of course, as Wighton has proved me so wrong.. I don’t post much anymore….
Funny enough I got the same when I questioned wightons fitness. I was also been proved wrong.
Now that you mention it, I got torn to shreds about my lack of knowledge when I was critical of Craig Wighton. Apparently I was just biased and couldn’t see how good he is 🤷🏻♂️
Is it just me or is there a pattern here?
COYP
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 23 Jan 18:59
2 reasons -
1/ Boredom
- Predictable posting patterns between ‘must defend club at all costs’ (I got a snarky response recently when the comment wasn’t even remotely anti club or its staff but there’s a hair trigger at play if anything perceived as negative) and the perpetually gloomy that while able to make some reasonable points are diluted beyond recognition with repeated hobby horse complaints
- Building on the positions above the forum has devolved into a couple of cliques which turns into the type of cattiness better suited to a 1950’s typing pool or the steamy
- the trolls are obvious and pretty low standard - they’re not even vaguely amusing.
- self importance of the most frequent posters - they could really do with some introspection of their online personas
2/ the most damning of all for a football forum there is not one single iota of wit or humour in the place at all. You used to get a bit of a laugh at some comments but it’s a miserable po faced place now
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 23 Jan 18:59
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MikeyLeonard, Thu 23 Jan 13:28
And you`ve just deleted my post ?
All I said was `wow` in reponse to your remarks towards Grant.
Jeez.
Did you quote his post in your reply? If so it could have been automatically deleted when he deleted his post 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 23 Jan 19:22
Quote:
P, Thu 23 Jan 18:59
2 reasons -
1/ Boredom
- Predictable posting patterns between ‘must defend club at all costs’ (I got a snarky response recently when the comment wasn’t even remotely anti club or its staff but there’s a hair trigger at play if anything perceived as negative) and the perpetually gloomy that while able to make some reasonable points are diluted beyond recognition with repeated hobby horse complaints
- Building on the positions above the forum has devolved into a couple of cliques which turns into the type of cattiness better suited to a 1950’s typing pool or the steamy
- the trolls are obvious and pretty low standard - they’re not even vaguely amusing.
- self importance of the most frequent posters - they could really do with some introspection of their online personas
2/ the most damning of all for a football forum there is not one single iota of wit or humour in the place at all. You used to get a bit of a laugh at some comments but it’s a miserable po faced place now
☝🏻
Summed up perfectly for me
COYP
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Thu 23 Jan 21:24
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 23 Jan 18:59
Quote:
MikeyLeonard, Thu 23 Jan 13:28
And you`ve just deleted my post ?
All I said was `wow` in reponse to your remarks towards Grant.
Jeez.
Did you quote his post in your reply? If so it could have been automatically deleted when he deleted his post 🤷🏻♂️
Aye, think I may have.
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Topic Originator: Digs
Date: Fri 24 Jan 10:28
I’m interested to know who it is that is posting lies “to attract posters to another forum”?
Nobody has mentioned the forum by name and nobody, until now, connected to that forum has even posted on this thread so I’m wondering what the motivation would be to tell lies to attract posters to an unnamed forum you have no connection to? To be clear, none of us could care less who posts where, we just do our own thing. If others want to make comparisons that’s their business but don’t go dragging us into whatever nonsense you’ve got going on here, we couldn’t care less.
I could have responded to this thread as I was one of the original users and have been logging in since before it even became dotnet over 25 years ago and I was a pretty prolific poster for a long time. Most of my reasons have been posted by other users and to pick up on another of your posts, all I’m going to say is I, and many others have a very different recollection of events during the Masterton shambles and it’s the main reason most of those people rarely post here and that all I’m going to say, what’s done is done. I’m not looking for a slanging match but the inference we are trying to use this thread to attract user is frankly nothing short of utter bollocks.
Stair Maistreas na Beatha
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 24 Jan 16:11
Out of interest, what’s the other forum?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Underpars
Date: Fri 24 Jan 16:17
Probably East End Bounce is what I thought….
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 24 Jan 17:10
Those knitted post box toppers , some are real scary 😱
Post Edited (Fri 24 Jan 17:10)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 24 Jan 17:23
Quote:
Underpars, Fri 24 Jan 16:17
Probably East End Bounce is what I thought….
It`s a bit of a waste of time that forum, it`s got some of the decent posters that used to be on here, but they don`t post much. They have only got about 10 threads that have been active in the last week and managed about a dozen comments a day. It`s really only kept going by the frequent posters on here, that for some reason go on there to post the same thing they have posted here. It`s a bit of a duplication. Really the folk on here should apologise, beg them to come back, and then we can have everyone on the same site
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Fri 24 Jan 18:23
I’ll risk the ban but here goes. The admin needs to be completely impartial and not seen to be siding with their pals who have posted on the site for years . There is a hierarchy of posters on this site. There is a body of evidence available (unless admin delete posts) which backs this up.
Admin dont bother to investigate why a lot of the arguments start on here.
For example a poster with a relatively low post count makes a negative post regarding a player . They may be targeted by one of the hierarchy. Rasper, roaster , melt or words to that effect.
They may even get called a Troll. Getting called a Troll is just another way to shut down opinion imo.
What happens next will be a campaign to shut down that poster any time they post.
Berkey is a great example . Over time a lot of their posts have been proven to be correct . Under another username I have had several debates regarding their negative pessimistic stance on almost everything but time has proven me wrong.
Every time they post they are targeted with the same nonsense.
It’s not a terrible football forum btw. There’s a lot of good stuff on here .
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Fri 24 Jan 18:49
Berkey isn`t a great example, given he`s likely the most prolific poster on the entire forum.
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Equal rights and justice in this time
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Topic Originator: Townsvillepar
Date: Fri 24 Jan 20:28
I have never been a prolific poster, but enjoy reading most of the posts. I do respect some of the regular contributors such as Socks, VEE and GG Riva, who talk sense as well as filling in the historic parts of the Pars. However I tend to stop when the discussion(s) become vitriolic and over the top. No need for it.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 24 Jan 20:55
Å Hink it`s aw down to you all being torn holed Fifers, that like a moan 😉
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Fri 24 Jan 22:43
Quote:
Big T Par, Fri 24 Jan 20:55
Å Hink it`s aw down to you all being torn holed Fifers, that like a moan 😉
Thats Fife !
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 24 Jan 23:25
I noted 87Par said most folk didn’t know me - so I thought I’d find out for myself how many folk I’ve met and are friends with (currently on the forum).
33. Jings!
Surely they deserve a medal 😂
There’s a few on East End Bounce, too.
I don’t know where they (87Par) get this idea however that I am somehow the only type of female Pars fan out there (or on here?) I’m presuming they mean because I don’t discuss the football in the way other posters do. I know loads of Pars ladies who can talk the hind legs aff about the fitbaw and know way more than I could ever hope to.
Most of my posts are lighthearted, and not really into things like formations, tactics etc. I enjoy starting the match threads and reading the posts from folk who know their football and I like to think I learn from them; especially useful for the updates.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 25 Jan 00:01)
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Topic Originator: DNCH
Date: Sat 25 Jan 03:26
I`ve always had this image in my head that the repeat posters on this forum are a band of losers who congregate in Legends and refer to each other by their username on this forum. Makes me laugh.
Regardless, forums are for debate and thoughtful disagreement should be encouraged. Guys insulting one another when disagreeing is what makes it off-putting.
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Topic Originator: airdriepar
Date: Sat 25 Jan 07:00
DNCH
I`ve always had this image in my head that the repeat posters on this forum are a band of losers who congregate in Legends and refer to each other by their username on this forum. Makes me laugh.
Howling! Same image pal
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sat 25 Jan 08:13
Quote:
buffy, Fri 24 Jan 23:25
I noted 87Par said most folk didn’t know me - so I thought I’d find out for myself how many folk I’ve met and are friends with (currently on the forum).
33. Jings!
Surely they deserve a medal 😂
There’s a few on East End Bounce, too.
I don’t know where they (87Par) get this idea however that I am somehow the only type of female Pars fan out there (or on here?) I’m presuming they mean because I don’t discuss the football in the way other posters do. I know loads of Pars ladies who can talk the hind legs aff about the fitbaw and know way more than I could ever hope to.
Most of my posts are lighthearted, and not really into things like formations, tactics etc. I enjoy starting the match threads and reading the posts from folk who know their football and I like to think I learn from them; especially useful for the updates.
Living 2800 miles away from Dunfermline, I rely on the information I get on this forum from the likes of Buffy on a Saturday afternoon, long may it continue.
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Sat 25 Jan 09:03
Quote:
airdriepar, Sat 25 Jan 07:00
DNCH
I`ve always had this image in my head that the repeat posters on this forum are a band of losers who congregate in Legends and refer to each other by their username on this forum. Makes me laugh.
Howling! Same image pal
^^^^ 😂😂😂
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 25 Jan 09:11
Quote:
DNCH, Sat 25 Jan 03:26
I`ve always had this image in my head that the repeat posters on this forum are a band of losers who congregate in Legends and refer to each other by their username on this forum. Makes me laugh.
Regardless, forums are for debate and thoughtful disagreement should be encouraged. Guys insulting one another when disagreeing is what makes it off-putting.
It’s worse than that, DNCH! Every second Sunday they get together in the public park, dance roond the trees and howl at the moon! If I wasn’t so busy making stick pin dolls and knitting half and half scarves for Pars and Kelty fans, I’d join them. Fresh air n aw that.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 25 Jan 09:17
Quote:
Par Dan, Fri 24 Jan 22:43
Quote:
Big T Par, Fri 24 Jan 20:55
Å Hink it`s aw down to you all being torn holed Fifers, that like a moan 😉
Thats Fife !
That`s what all the people say!
Whether it`s Ainster, or Newport on Tay!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 25 Jan 09:51
Quote:
DunfyDave, Sat 25 Jan 09:03
Quote:
airdriepar, Sat 25 Jan 07:00
DNCH
I`ve always had this image in my head that the repeat posters on this forum are a band of losers who congregate in Legends and refer to each other by their username on this forum. Makes me laugh.
Howling! Same image pal
^^^^ 😂😂😂
They are, and they do
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Topic Originator: Milos Drizzle
Date: Sat 25 Jan 13:49
I’m biased, but I think it’s a decent forum. Aye, it’s used by the whole range of society and personality types so inevitably will require (hopefully) fair and balanced moderation. As i mentioned earlier, if folks could focus on the ball not the player, there would be far less spats.
I also find it amusing when regular posters denigrate the forum - phrase like car crash, shambles etc., as if it’s one homogenous thing.
I also see some references to this site being old-tech. Well, it is, but it does have (ahem) decent, stable, apps on iOS and Android. I would also add that if anyone has tried the “other forum” on their phone browser it’s a horrid experience - a fight with the user interface, and a messy experience - so much for state of the art, modern web forum software - give me this decrepit old web site any day, with its focus on the content and simple navigation.
This is my signature
Post Edited (Sat 25 Jan 13:50)
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Topic Originator: mars par
Date: Sat 25 Jan 14:24
I still use the forum to get news on the club as there aren`t many other outlets for that but I`ve lost a lot of interest in it over the years
Usually the first 3 or 4 posts on a thread are informative and then inevitably a regular few wade in take over with inane bickering about gripes from past threads
That`s why I don`t contribute and spend a lot less time on here that I used to, I can`t be bothered with that
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