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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 19 Feb 01:43
I have a feelgood factor right now.
I know it`s a bit early for most of you, but I see us climbing the table now.
I can`t agree with wanting Morton and above to win v Hamilton, Raith, or QP until we have caught them.
I don`t care about the top 3. I hope they beat everyone except us, but from Partick down, they are catchable.
I`m not worried about 9th anymore. I recon the least we will get is 7th.
I want the higher up teams outside the top 3 to lose to, or preferably draw with teams below them.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 20 Feb 02:25
I wish you would give this a break. Optimism is one thing, but you are posting this repeatedly on several threads. All you are doing is inviting disappointment.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 05:12
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 20 Feb 02:25
I wish you would give this a break. Optimism is one thing, but you are posting this repeatedly on several threads. All you are doing is inviting disappointment.
Here`s an idea, Oz. If you see my name on a post, don`t read it.
Why should I give it a break so long as 90% of posters on here simply say the same thing repeatedly on countless threads.
There have been a lot of posters suggesting our goal is to finish 9th.
I disagree, and I think the topic, "Looking Up," merits its own thread.
Unfortunately, nobody else appears to concur 😄
Maybe there will be a response if we get a good result against QP and other results fit my vision.
There definitely will be a response if we lose.
I'll seriously get ma totties.
Post Edited (Thu 20 Feb 05:23)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 20 Feb 06:15
Cool story.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Thu 20 Feb 06:46
WE’RE ALL STAYING UP I SAID WE’RE ALL STAY UP
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Thu 20 Feb 06:48
God forbid that someone puts something positive up in here for a change 😱
Get on board man positivity can permeate even the darkest corridors
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 20 Feb 07:17
It`s that awful Scottish mindset of seeking to be disappointed in the hope of being surprised. Never get your hopes up, never think positively, never think you`ll do well and that way you`ll never feel down when it goes wrong.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 20 Feb 07:47
Quote:
jake89, Thu 20 Feb 07:17
It`s that awful Scottish mindset of seeking to be disappointed in the hope of being surprised. Never get your hopes up, never think positively, never think you`ll do well and that way you`ll never feel down when it goes wrong.
You can blame it all on your strict, Presbyterian/Calvinistic upbringing, Jake. PARrot is the exception that proves the rule. 😉
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Thu 20 Feb 08:01
I totally understand any Pars fans being reluctant to get ahead of themselves about a new era of success.
We have had two 4th place finishes since 2012 that were backed up by a 7th place finish (3 points from relegation)2018 and relegation in 2021 through the play-off the next season.
The last 13-14 years have been nothing short demoralising for fans. Admin has had a huge part in this poor performance but also some terrible leadership over the last 6-7 years.
I hope this is a turning point but I will believe it when I see it. Nothing to do with being Scottish, just Pars have scarred me over many years with some really poor results.
Post Edited (Thu 20 Feb 08:03)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 20 Feb 09:02
Maybe it`s the autism and ADHD but I react to what`s in front if me, the results and league table, not what someone else hopes for.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 20 Feb 09:22
Blind optimism , when the facts don`t back it up , is tiresome.
Yes there is positivity, since the new owners took over but we are still in a perilous position, especially with our playoffs record , so I`m sorry but 8th will do me fine ,snd I think we have a big fight to attain this .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 09:24
I`ve been saying it for ages- you`re much more likely to be criticised on here for being positive than for being negative.
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Topic Originator: Benny74
Date: Thu 20 Feb 11:08
I am also feeling positive for a change. I haven’t been to games recently but it’s time I got back. I haven’t noticed that a lot of the negativity on here starts during a game on a Saturday from the same people that don’t attend games. Not sure where their views come from.
Benny74
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 20 Feb 11:16
Quote:
Benny74, Thu 20 Feb 11:08
I am also feeling positive for a change. I haven’t been to games recently but it’s time I got back. I haven’t noticed that a lot of the negativity on here starts during a game on a Saturday from the same people that don’t attend games. Not sure where their views come from.
Said that on a number of occasions. The folk who post war and peace between 3 & 5 on a Saturday clearly aren`t doing it right.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Thu 20 Feb 11:28
Maybe they are posting it on their phone whilst at the game?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 20 Feb 12:28
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Thu 20 Feb 11:28
Maybe they are posting it on their phone whilst at the game?
No way are people capable of posting whilst being at the game, not having it.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 20 Feb 12:54
It`s well known that fans respectfully turn off their phones before kick off until the final whistle
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 13:24
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 20 Feb 09:22
Blind optimism , when the facts don`t back it up , is tiresome.
Yes there is positivity, since the new owners took over but we are still in a perilous position, especially with our playoffs record , so I`m sorry but 8th will do me fine ,snd I think we have a big fight to attain this .
The current table doesn`t back it up, but recent additions and performances/results, along with the activities of the new owners, have inspired me to look up.
With Partick being so inconsistent, I believe forth is unlikely, but possible.
The next few games will either enhance or destroy that hope.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 20 Feb 13:37
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 20 Feb 12:54
It`s well known that fans respectfully turn off their phones before kick off until the final whistle
If only.....shame it wasn`t for longer to be fair
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 20 Feb 13:49
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 20 Feb 13:37
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 20 Feb 12:54
It`s well known that fans respectfully turn off their phones before kick off until the final whistle
If only.....shame it wasn`t for longer to be fair
Tbh I tend to put mine in my pocket when the game kicks off and don`t look at it again till the end of the game.
You do see some folk at the game who are on their phone all the time during the game. They`d be as well not being there as they are not really present.
I sometimes have a read of the comments posted between 3 to 5. They are laughable really. It`s usually the same no marks every week ready to pile on whenever something hasn`t gone their way. They are dying for something bad to happen so they can be the first to get their negative post in. It`s a shame for them.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 20 Feb 14:34
The folk commenting could be watching on ParsTV
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 20 Feb 14:59
I always look at my phone before the start of the game and by the time we are needing a goal I see how many minutes are left before I have to go back home. Riveting rinse and repeat, but I do hope there is grand progress because I will only check my phone to see how long we have to hold onto that lead before going home.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Thu 20 Feb 15:24
Indeed red-star-par, humans of course are well known for being incapable of doing two things at once...
I think there are some optimistic signs. the new signings look decent, there`s more evidence that the manager is willing to change things in-game, we`ve had a few decent performances... but to think about top 4 or even top 6 is taking it to the extreme. We had good wee spells before both in the relegation season and last season. Both times it looked like maybe we`d turned a corner but it didn`t stick. We still struggle to score goals. We were battered by Airdrie. We are behind in points and in number of games left to play. Other teams can afford to draw games that we really need to win. We have a very tough run in March where we have Raith and Falkirk away as well as Ayr away and Livingston at home. If after that run we`re even 5 or 6 points away from 4th then our run in is favourable, but given all the other teams above us presently will be playing each other in that spell then statistically that seems unlikely. Nothing wrong with being realistic, even if some folk take that as being negative IMO.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:09
I’d happily take 8th just now. I think we are better than Hamilton. Clearly the next three games will have a big say in where we are likely to end up.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:26
Quote:
kelty_par, Thu 20 Feb 15:24
Indeed red-star-par, humans of course are well known for being incapable of doing two things at once...
I think there are some optimistic signs. the new signings look decent, there`s more evidence that the manager is willing to change things in-game, we`ve had a few decent performances... but to think about top 4 or even top 6 is taking it to the extreme. We had good wee spells before both in the relegation season and last season. Both times it looked like maybe we`d turned a corner but it didn`t stick. We still struggle to score goals. We were battered by Airdrie. We are behind in points and in number of games left to play. Other teams can afford to draw games that we really need to win. We have a very tough run in March where we have Raith and Falkirk away as well as Ayr away and Livingston at home. If after that run we`re even 5 or 6 points away from 4th then our run in is favourable, but given all the other teams above us presently will be playing each other in that spell then statistically that seems unlikely. Nothing wrong with being realistic, even if some folk take that as being negative IMO.
Yes I think finishing 4th is taking it to the extreme, but the extreme can be achieved.
Partick have a habit of losing heavily, and I can see them dropping points. Morton look more likely to get 4th to me.
Having said that, Partick are 13 ahead.
If we win the game we have in hand, that`s 10 points.
If we win the head to head at home, we are down to 7 points with still another 30 points to play for.
I really don`t think that is impossible.
Obviously, if you think we are going to continue in the same way, we performed with McPake, it is crazy thinking, but if we continue to improve, it is not impossible.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:27
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 13:24
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 20 Feb 09:22
Blind optimism , when the facts don`t back it up , is tiresome.
Yes there is positivity, since the new owners took over but we are still in a perilous position, especially with our playoffs record , so I`m sorry but 8th will do me fine ,snd I think we have a big fight to attain this .
The current table doesn`t back it up, but recent additions and performances/results, along with the activities of the new owners, have inspired me to look up.
With Partick being so inconsistent, I believe forth is unlikely, but possible.
The next few games will either enhance or destroy that hope.
But based on what we do know is we have failed to win back to back games all season. We are getting to the point where we are running out of games. Draws need to be turned into wins for us to finish 8th never mind anywhere higher. We need to be more clinical in front of goal to change our fortunes.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:35
The folk who are grudgingly saying we might make 8th now probably wrote us off as automatic relegation candidates after the first quarter.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:46
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 16:35
The folk who are grudgingly saying we might make 8th now probably wrote us off as automatic relegation candidates after the first quarter.
And the folk that said we might get relegated haven`t been a million miles away from being correct.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:48
Quote:
LEGEND85, Thu 20 Feb 16:46
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 16:35
The folk who are grudgingly saying we might make 8th now probably wrote us off as automatic relegation candidates after the first quarter.
And the folk that said we might get relegated haven`t been a million miles away from being correct.
Yes they have.
Nowhere close.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:50
We won`t know that until the end of the season. That`s the point of the thread. In a tight league of 10 teams there`s always a chance we `might` be relegated.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 16:58
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 20 Feb 16:27
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 13:24
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Thu 20 Feb 09:22
Blind optimism , when the facts don`t back it up , is tiresome.
Yes there is positivity, since the new owners took over but we are still in a perilous position, especially with our playoffs record , so I`m sorry but 8th will do me fine ,snd I think we have a big fight to attain this .
The current table doesn`t back it up, but recent additions and performances/results, along with the activities of the new owners, have inspired me to look up.
With Partick being so inconsistent, I believe forth is unlikely, but possible.
The next few games will either enhance or destroy that hope.
But based on what we do know is we have failed to win back to back games all season. We are getting to the point where we are running out of games. Draws need to be turned into wins for us to finish 8th never mind anywhere higher. We need to be more clinical in front of goal to change our fortunes.
You are basing what we know on what we know about quite literally a different team - coaching staff and squad.
I`m basing my optimism on what we now have and results against Falkirk, Partick, Raith, and Livi away.
We lost v Ayr and Airdrie was a disaster, but we have a new squad that is looking good.
I think what we now have can beat the teams around us, and they will take points from each other.
I`m sure expectations of most of us have increased. Hopefully if we win a few on the trot, they will rise more.
I hope so. You all deserve to enjoy the rest of the season after the past couple of years.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 20 Feb 17:02
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 16:35
The folk who are grudgingly saying we might make 8th now probably wrote us off as automatic relegation candidates after the first quarter.
I predicted bottom 2 and where are we sitting now ? When Tidser took the job i as well as many more on here said he will be a success if he can get us to 8th. We have struggled to convert clear cut chances into goals and when we have won games failed to back it up with another one and the league table reflects that. I would love to be wrong and see us where parrot predicts in fact I would be absolutely delighted with that but unfortunately going on what I`ve seen I think 8 or 9th will be about right.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 17:34
Well give yourself a pat on the back, cammy. I gave up predicting football results and league positions years ago. There are too many imponderables and this season we had the added one of a potential change of ownership which ended up with us in limbo for about 5 months.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:01
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 17:34
Well give yourself a pat on the back, cammy. I gave up predicting football results and league positions years ago. There are too many imponderables and this season we had the added one of a potential change of ownership which ended up with us in limbo for about 5 months.
Change of ownership doesnt have any effect on the teams ability to score from the chances we create.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:12
Well I always thought our main problem was a tendency to lose daft goals and a lack of clear-cut chances rather than not taking them. The previous owners cut or froze the playing staff budget which affected recruitment. This obviously changed with the change in ownership.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:18
We’re only scored in 1 of the last 4 league games and none of the new players have either scored or provided an assist as yet. It is fair to say we have more options in the squad now and at least a couple of players who look like improving the first 11.
Queen’s Park is the big test of where we are, need to win and hopefully put in a commanding performance. Then we have to avoid defeat on tues or it’s all been for nothing.
Hoping young starts and sat and opens his account…
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:39
Young started last Saturday but maybe he needs to play with Kane to get the best out of him.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:51
This is the number of points needed to finish 4th in the SPFL era...
Last season: 52
2022/23: 57
2021/22: 52
2020/21: 39 (27 game season, adjusted to a 36 game season would be 52)
2019/20: 40 (27/28 game season done by PPG, adjusted to a 36 game season would be 53)
2018/19: 54
2017/18: 59
2016/17: 52
2015/16: 62
2014/15: 60
2014/13: 55
2012/13: 52
We currently have 23 points. So even taking a low average we`d need another 27 ish points from 12 games. Partick are on 36 so would need maybe 13 or 14 points from their 11 games. Morton probably need 20 from 13, Raith about the same... I`d say it`s quite statistically unlikely that we get 27 additional points and not one of those three get their required target. I honestly don`t see how that is simply moaning or being negative or any of the other stuff that gets said?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 20 Feb 18:55
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 18:12
Well I always thought our main problem was a tendency to lose daft goals and a lack of clear-cut chances rather than not taking them. The previous owners cut or froze the playing staff budget which affected recruitment. This obviously changed with the change in ownership.
Probably a bit of both. Take the Livingston game for example, wotherspoon has a sitter inside the box and hits it straight at the keeper. we can`t pass up chances like that if we are expecting to get anywhere in this division. I`d also expect a player of that experience to do better in that area.
Whether losing goals or not scoring enough of the chances we create it all has the same outcome of not winning enough games. We have signed new players but yet to get any return from the attacking ones. Yes they need time but we are running out of games and fast if we want to be looking up instead of down we need to turn 1 or no points into 3 consistently which we have failed to do so far this season.
Now as I have already said earlier I hope that changes as we can put a run together that sees us safe with a few games to spare. I`d love nothing more than us finishing well above the relegation play off picture but again factor in we don`t win enough games and when we do we don`t back it up it will not see us up the right end of the table.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 19:02
We`ve already got 8 points in the third quarter with 3 games to go. We only managed 6 points in the entire 9 games of the first quarter and 9 points in the second quarter.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Thu 20 Feb 19:04
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 16:48
Quote:
LEGEND85, Thu 20 Feb 16:46
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 16:35
The folk who are grudgingly saying we might make 8th now probably wrote us off as automatic relegation candidates after the first quarter.
And the folk that said we might get relegated haven`t been a million miles away from being correct.
Yes they have.
Nowhere close.
Can you explain how a team sitting in 9th spot is nowhere close to possible relegation ?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 20 Feb 19:08
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 20 Feb 19:02
We`ve already got 8 points in the third quarter with 3 games to go. We only managed 6 points in the entire 9 games of the first quarter and 9 points in the second quarter.
Which pretty much back up my point that we over the course of the season haven`t won enough games hence why we are sitting 9th out of 10 teams.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Thu 20 Feb 19:47
I think we`ll finish 7th or 8th. There`s no evidence at all to suggest we can go on some crazy positive run but you live in hope. But I firmly believe we`ve a better squad than QP and Hamilton and hopefully can build a bit of momentum and go into next season with some positivity. Hard work following the Pars in the last decade.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 19:54
So many folk on here constantly living in the past when the whole point of the thread is about looking forward.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:04
Quote:
kelty_par, Thu 20 Feb 18:51
This is the number of points needed to finish 4th in the SPFL era...
Last season: 52
2022/23: 57
2021/22: 52
2020/21: 39 (27 game season, adjusted to a 36 game season would be 52)
2019/20: 40 (27/28 game season done by PPG, adjusted to a 36 game season would be 53)
2018/19: 54
2017/18: 59
2016/17: 52
2015/16: 62
2014/15: 60
2014/13: 55
2012/13: 52
We currently have 23 points. So even taking a low average we`d need another 27 ish points from 12 games. Partick are on 36 so would need maybe 13 or 14 points from their 11 games. Morton probably need 20 from 13, Raith about the same... I`d say it`s quite statistically unlikely that we get 27 additional points, and not one of those three get their required target. I honestly don`t see how that is simply moaning or being negative or any of the other stuff that gets said?
It isn`t. It`s a very good post, and the stats are very much appreciated.
Yep, it is unlikely we will do 4th, but I`ll hope for it as long as possible. Surely, that`s what it`s all about.
The main point, though, is that we are not going to be relegated, so why look back? Might as well hope for the best.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:07
`So many folk on here constantly living in the past when the whole point of the thread is about looking forward.``
Eh, so every thread must follow the originators lead and you can`t deviate from the original topic raised.
What is the point of a forum then? Thought a forum was for discussion and airing different views.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:15
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Thu 20 Feb 20:07
`So many folk on here constantly living in the past when the whole point of the thread is about looking forward.``
Eh, so every thread must follow the originators lead and you can`t deviate from the original topic raised.
What is the point of a forum then? Thought a forum was for discussion and airing different views.
Yes. But it is a bit unconstructive to refer to what`s gone before when the whole point is about the current developments and vision going forward.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:48
As long as debate is respectful, a thread can take whatever route as far as I`m concerned.
I just find that so many posters on this forum just want to antagonise each other, rather than have adult debate.
Post Edited (Thu 20 Feb 21:00)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 20 Feb 21:13
No they don`t...
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Equal rights and justice in this time
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 23:39
Disagreeing with someone isn`t antagonising them unless that`s how they want to interpret it.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Fri 21 Feb 00:01
Quote:
PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 05:12
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 20 Feb 02:25
I wish you would give this a break. Optimism is one thing, but you are posting this repeatedly on several threads. All you are doing is inviting disappointment.
Here`s an idea, Oz. If you see my name on a post, don`t read it.
Why should I give it a break so long as 90% of posters on here simply say the same thing repeatedly on countless threads.
There have been a lot of posters suggesting our goal is to finish 9th.
I disagree, and I think the topic, "Looking Up," merits its own thread.
Unfortunately, nobody else appears to concur 😄
Maybe there will be a response if we get a good result against QP and other results fit my vision.
There definitely will be a response if we lose.
I`ll seriously get ma totties.
Surprised you’ve no had them already to be perfectly honest with you
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 21 Feb 00:12
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Fri 21 Feb 00:01
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PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 05:12
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OzPar, Thu 20 Feb 02:25
I wish you would give this a break. Optimism is one thing, but you are posting this repeatedly on several threads. All you are doing is inviting disappointment.
Here`s an idea, Oz. If you see my name on a post, don`t read it.
Why should I give it a break so long as 90% of posters on here simply say the same thing repeatedly on countless threads.
There have been a lot of posters suggesting our goal is to finish 9th.
I disagree, and I think the topic, "Looking Up," merits its own thread.
Unfortunately, nobody else appears to concur 😄
Maybe there will be a response if we get a good result against QP and other results fit my vision.
There definitely will be a response if we lose.
I`ll seriously get ma totties.
Surprised you’ve no had them already to be perfectly honest with you
Well It looks like you thought wrong.
Happens to the best of us.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Fri 21 Feb 00:26
I’m pretty confident we will finish 8th or 9th. I really hope it is 8th. 8th should require around 37 or so points. 14 points more than we currently have. If we can become difficult to beat and draw the majority of the games, sneaking a few wins, we can make 8th. Beating Hamilton twice would go a long way towards keeping us from the relegation playoff.
I don’t see us creating enough clear cut chances with Tidsers slow turgid brand of football to finish much higher.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 21 Feb 06:29
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PARrot, Thu 20 Feb 20:15
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Bertie Paton, Thu 20 Feb 20:07
`So many folk on here constantly living in the past when the whole point of the thread is about looking forward.``
Eh, so every thread must follow the originators lead and you can`t deviate from the original topic raised.
What is the point of a forum then? Thought a forum was for discussion and airing different views.
Yes. But it is a bit unconstructive to refer to what`s gone before when the whole point is about the current developments and vision going forward.
It is if you say we are better under new management and it will be a tough run in is fair. You have to use the facts that this season we have struggled to gather any sort of momentum to push us further up the league and away from the relegation play offs.
We have games against teams around us and it`s vital we take 3 points from these games rather than 1 or even worse none. I agree it would be unconstructive to look at the past if it was a different picture but not a lot has changed since the mcpake era in terms of results and gathering the required points to get to safety as of yet.
I`d love to share the vision that we can get any higher than 8th but you have to base it on the evidence and the evidence is we are still inconsistent but QP is as good a game as any to get a win and start a run.
c'mon the pars
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