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 Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:09

I was looking forward to the Hamilton match next week. Not now. I`m going to knockhill instead.
For a straight red Wanyama is out for two, is he not?
I see nil points in next week`s two games, leaving us with 5 points to catch Hamilton with 4 games to go.

Tough ask for any manager.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:15

That’s the spirit
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:18

P thats the spirit is a cheap answer which you have copied from the usual suspects .. PARot has posted what many of us think from what we have seen so far as a realistic outcome

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:18

Airdrie will catch us… If we continue the way we have been..

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:21

Not so long ago, PARrot was convinced we would be fourth, so quite a turnaround by the squawker.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:21

I never bought in to all this OTT optimism, but I expected some sort of reaction from our players .
Got a reaction right enough , but the opposite of what I hoped for .
Followed the Pars for over 60 years , but I`m struggling to recall a poorer squad of players.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:25

This squad have zero fight to stay clear of the playoffs. 3 different managers same group of players same bog standard of football.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:31

People that were expecting some sort of instant turnaround were overly optimistic, Lennon has been here less than a week and needs to figure out which players are going to help us in the crucial final games.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:31

There is zero fight or heart in that bunch, your average drag queen would ragdoll them.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:32

It wouldn’t matter who you put in charge, these players are taking us down. Hopefully we see better on Wednesday.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:34

It’s a really daft thread this, we win either of our next two games and we’re 8th so how on earth does it look like we’re finishing 9th?

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: pacifist  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:44

10th is a possibility if we don`t score goals.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parsweep  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:48

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Berry, Sat 29 Mar 17:34

It’s a really daft thread this, we win either of our next two games and we’re 8th so how on earth does it look like we’re finishing 9th?


Do you think we look like winning any more games this season ?
Lose to Hamilton and we`re toast .

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:50

No but Hamilton are hardly pulling up any trees.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 17:50

The feel good factor hasn’t lasted long, I’m afraid.
Same old.




It`s bloody tough being a legend
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:12

Don`t really buy into that, Hamilton lost 3-0 at home, we won`t be winning all our games, that`s why we`re near the bottom, but we still have 4 home games.

Clearly will go to the wire, which I thought it would do anyway.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:24

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neils, Sat 29 Mar 18:12

Don`t really buy into that, Hamilton lost 3-0 at home, we won`t be winning all our games, that`s why we`re near the bottom, but we still have 4 home games.

Clearly will go to the wire, which I thought it would do anyway.


Although we need to go on a run of winning at least back to back games something we have failed to do this season.

c'mon the pars

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:24

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Buspasspar, Sat 29 Mar 17:18

P thats the spirit is a cheap answer which you have copied from the usual suspects .. PARot has posted what many of us think from what we have seen so far as a realistic outcome


It was a big woe is me post when there is a massive gulf between Ayr & us this season (as can very clearly be seen by the table) and most sensible people were aware of that and were hoping to get out with a draw at best.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:26

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P, Sat 29 Mar 18:24

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Buspasspar, Sat 29 Mar 17:18

P thats the spirit is a cheap answer which you have copied from the usual suspects .. PARot has posted what many of us think from what we have seen so far as a realistic outcome


It was a big woe is me post when there is a massive gulf between Ayr & us this season (as can very clearly be seen by the table) and most sensible people were aware of that and were hoping to get out with a draw at best.


Surely the lack of any real threat upfront and no real idea when we go behind concerns you ?

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:39

No one could convince these players to care and turn up.

It’s embarrassing a player in the current shape and level of fitness that wanyama is, is getting on the pitch for us. I would wager that’s killed morale even more.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:41

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P, Sat 29 Mar 18:24

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Buspasspar, Sat 29 Mar 17:18

P thats the spirit is a cheap answer which you have copied from the usual suspects .. PARot has posted what many of us think from what we have seen so far as a realistic outcome


It was a big woe is me post when there is a massive gulf between Ayr & us this season (as can very clearly be seen by the table) and most sensible people were aware of that and were hoping to get out with a draw at best.


Not at all.
I`m probably known as one of the most positive posters on here. To the point that I believe I irritate the doomsday mongers.

I realised a few games ago we were not going to head up the table, despite my previous assertions, unless something changed.
It changed, I hoped again.
Shipwrecked. The talisman gets sent off, and apparently needs some fitness training before being as effective as expected.

So. Realistically. We can`t score, so 9th is now what I expect

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:49

After today I’ve gone from thinking we can get 8th to checking what fixtures airdrie have left.

I mean how many times in a season can you be let down? This year feels worse than under yogi so far.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:53

IMO we will get 10th & deserve it.

This season has been the worst I’ve seen in 50+ years of watching the Pars. It’s been brutal.

Change of ownership/management mid season, a crazy roll of the dice in bringing in 8 players in January to further confuse/undermine an underperforming squad.

Absolute shambles.

Now we have a celebrity manager bringing in old pals/duds.

We will pick up another couple of points in the last six games, Airdrie will easily overtake us.

What a mess - Can’t wait for this season to end………..

“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:55

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PARrot, Sat 29 Mar 17:09

I was looking forward to the Hamilton match next week. Not now. I`m going to knockhill instead.
For a straight red Wanyama is out for two, is he not?
I see nil points in next week`s two games, leaving us with 5 points to catch Hamilton with 4 games to go.

Tough ask for any manager.


Do you really think being forced to miss him for two games is going to hold us back?

Enforced time off might give him
the chance to achieve some level of fitness. It`s just a shame a midweek game shortens it.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:56

Will we survive probably, Lenton is no paul Daniels, but he has enough to improve this team. But they are awful.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:57

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Angus_W, Sat 29 Mar 18:53

IMO we will get 10th & deserve it.

This season has been the worst I’ve seen in 50+ years of watching the Pars. It’s been brutal.

Change of ownership/management mid season, a crazy roll of the dice in bringing in 8 players in January to further confuse/undermine an underperforming squad.

Absolute shambles.

Now we have a celebrity manager bringing in old pals/duds.

We will pick up another couple of points in the last six games, Airdrie will easily overtake us.

What a mess - Can’t wait for this season to end………..


Cook has to go after this season potentially relegated and 3 managers later. Shambles from start to finish under this imposter.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 18:58

Wait a minute here. We`ve got someone who has said a number of times that things have gone against us because the team haven`t been supported enough. Yet here we are with a huge game next weekend, when that weekend a rare one when that person has the time available to go to a game and the price is low enough. Until today that person was going to go, but after one loss they`ve given up and can no longer be arsed spending that leisure time supporting their team.

It`s your choice what you do with any spare time or money you might have, but you can`t have it both ways. If you`re going to give up on your team rather that use a rare chance to support them where it actually matters, in the ground, you really have no right to attack other people for not showing enough support or positivity.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:27

What a lot of pihs on here today was a free hit for the manager to see what player can do in a match we all knew there`s to many players here who simply aren`t good enough at this level today Benny Hamilton Chalmers mcann yeboah proved that however the game changed instantly young got injured plus we seemed to have a referee who had never referred such a big game ... And it wasn`t big I havnt been for a while but today`s watch hasn`t stopped me going back midweek today was never going to be a turnaround wind your necks in I`d still rather be in our position rather than Airdrie and Hamilton if all your going to do is moan sit in the house

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:31

That was a hard read with nae full stops.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:39

Not as hard a read as the total twats on here`s coments

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:42

Why was Yeboah brought on instead of Stevens or Cooper?

Yeboah has yet to convince me he is actually a footballer.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:49

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Socks, Sat 29 Mar 18:58

Wait a minute here. We`ve got someone who has said a number of times that things have gone against us because the team haven`t been supported enough. Yet here we are with a huge game next weekend, when that weekend a rare one when that person has the time available to go to a game and the price is low enough. Until today that person was going to go, but after one loss they`ve given up and can no longer be arsed spending that leisure time supporting their team.

It`s your choice what you do with any spare time or money you might have, but you can`t have it both ways. If you`re going to give up on your team rather that use a rare chance to support them where it actually matters, in the ground, you really have no right to attack other people for not showing enough support or positivity.


Well, as usual, you are not wrong, socks, but it`s a wee bit more complicated than that.
I don`t get to any matches nowadays because my leisure time isn`t really leisure time.
I care for jnr on Saturdays and try to get some work done on my dilapidated house. Jnr loves Knockhill, and it gives him a rare day out. He wanted me to go to the match next week, though, because he saw me getting excited at the recent news.
So ordinarily, I would be there for such an important match, and may still be there now you`ve twanged a guilt string.
Just the way I was feeling at the time of posting. I would rather spend the time with him doing what he likes than watch us get gubbed again.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 19:53

It was the managers first chance to see people in a real game and not traing two totally different things he will have learned a lot about the players today and their ability

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARadise  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:04

Started the game not bad, I saw on Twitter we had less shots in that game than any game this season but it certainly felt we got more entries into the box and a couple flashed across goal but toothless once again. Our weekly sh1te goal to lose came and showed nothing when Young went off.

Second half we came back into it and then Bene done what he did, im gutted to see the way things are going for him with some fans for his form and what he`s accused of but ultimately if found guilty f*ck him. Huffed and puffed the rest.

Wanyama cannot play for us again. The game has changed you MUST be able to run no matter the level.

Not a single player in that squad is a championship footballer apart from Mullen. I`ve been to almost every game this season and bar Partick they haven`t shown any different and all of them should look at another career in the summer and go part time.

Not to go on about the Germans again but I`m sure they said the target for the end of the season was 40 points?? What a f*cking laugh they were. Lennon deserves every penny if he keeps this lot up.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: JimDAFC  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:14

I tend to agree with angus w. Airdrie at least scoring goals and I`m not sure we will until the end of the season. It has been one of the poorest seasons I can remember in 50 plus years of supporting the Pars. I will keep on supporting them though cause its a funny old game and things can change unexpectedly and quickly. But we really need to score some goals even if its in a defeat just to prove to ourselves that we can still do it because I think some of the players have stopped thinking that they can,

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Alter Ego  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:17

If Lennon has a bonus to keep us up then I would give every player a bonus to keep us up….I know it’s controversial but if they then start to play??

Mon the Pars!
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:34

IF we stay up we’d be likely starting the season with only Keith Bray, Connor Young, Mullen and Kane.

Wouldn’t mind if everyone else was away, most of which are anyway.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Kozmano1  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:45

You could have Alex Ferguson and Jock Stein on the bench. It wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference. Absolute garbage today. The second goal, Benedictus should have got arrested for that, never mind his current legal troubles. You travel all the way to Ayr, hoping there is at least they have a go. 2 shots off target. Zero in the second half. The squad is rotten from front to back. IF, we stay up. You’re lucky if I would want to keep about 3 of them. What could be said to them at full time that’s not already been said??. We are the worst team in that division, and unfortunately for us, that’s where we are at!!

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 20:55

Parrot, you shouldn`t feel any guilt at all about what you decide to do, next week or any other day. Your situation is obviously difficult and complex and you don`t need to justify yourself to me or anyone else.

It`s just that your posts sometimes grate a bit as it often feels like you`re having a go at folk with little justification and without really understanding the things they`re on about. So it did irritate me a wee bit when I read that post as it seemed like a bit of double standards. If you weren`t normally so combative I wouldn`t even have noticed it.

Life can be hard going sometimes and I wish you no ill. And it would be good if we could all keep in mind that folk we might be arguing with might not be on top form and try to show a little kindness, even if we disagree.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:01

I wasn`t expecting an overnight transformation but I was hoping that NL would have instilled some confidence into the team and that we would have a discernible game plan with some link between defence, midfield and attack. Disappointingly, none of these was evident. Hopefully he`ll have learned more from this game than from a week`s training and can knock them into better shape for Wednesday.

Wanyama looked like a guy who had come out of retirement to take part in a testimonial game. If he`s been training with Barnet he must have been hiding.

I`m not giving up on 8th place. Hamilton aren`t exactly flying and I`d still rather be in our situation than Airdrie`s.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:18

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Socks, Sat 29 Mar 20:55

Parrot, you shouldn`t feel any guilt at all about what you decide to do, next week or any other day. Your situation is obviously difficult and complex and you don`t need to justify yourself to me or anyone else.

It`s just that your posts sometimes grate a bit as it often feels like you`re having a go at folk with little justification and without really understanding the things they`re on about. So it did irritate me a wee bit when I read that post as it seemed like a bit of double standards. If you weren`t normally so combative I wouldn`t even have noticed it.

Life can be hard going sometimes and I wish you no ill. And it would be good if we could all keep in mind that folk we might be arguing with might not be on top form and try to show a little kindness, even if we disagree.


It is never my intention to be combative.
I tend to jump to the defence of people who are not in a position to defend themselves. If that comes over as being too critical of other posters, I`ll tone it down.
Well I`ll try to. ;)

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:28

Can`t we wait a bit and give the guys some time to sort out the situation

Surely one game isn`t enough time.

Bottom of the league points wise is no different today as it was yesterday

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:35

Give them time? 6 games left of the season and we’ve to give them time? They’ve had a whole season and still look as clueless as ever

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:40

3rd manager and same shi7e getting dished up.

This is all on the players now I’m afraid.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:45

FFS just sit in the house we are better off without you dick

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:47

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Parster, Sat 29 Mar 21:45

FFS just sit in the house we are better off without you dick


Maybe calm down a bit?

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 21:52

Not sure whose shouting at who and why people are being so rude😁

As someone said next couple games is important, yea I guess today would have been better getting something

Let`s try and work something out, you can give up if you want, but that`s not the answer

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 22:09

Gave me some comfort listening to Lennon interview, doesn’t sound like someone who’s hit the panic button yet.

I wasn’t expecting anything from this game, Hamilton losing has helped. We have two home games in a row now, cracking opportunity for 4-6 points.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:15

Noooooo stop defending this squad of players apart from about 4 they are going to relegate us either by finishing 10th or mucking up the playoffs , if by some quirk of fate we do stay up make no mistake all these players must go .

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: istvan kozma  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:17

Looking like 10th more like mfks!

KOZMA


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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:18

Yep the whole squad with the exception of Mullen, Bray, C. Young and Kane are nowhere near good enough and need replaced.

Let’s just focus of finishing above Hamilton and put this season behind us.

Massive squad rebuild over the summer.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: answer  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:25

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PARrot, Sat 29 Mar 19:49

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Socks, Sat 29 Mar 18:58



Well, as usual, you are not wrong, socks, but it`s a wee bit more complicated than that.
I don`t get to any matches nowadays because my leisure time isn`t really leisure time.
I care for jnr on Saturdays and try to get some work done on my dilapidated house. Jnr loves Knockhill, and it gives him a rare day out. He wanted me to go to the match next week, though, because he saw me getting excited at the recent news.
So ordinarily, I would be there for such an important match, and may still be there now you`ve twanged a guilt string.
Just the way I was feeling at the time of posting. I would rather spend the time with him doing what he likes than watch us get gubbed again.


This makes complete sense to me . Can you please understand that other people could have anything going on? I believe your Christ would like it
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:44

Maybe we`re now being slightly too negative after the over the top euphoria of last week. There was never going to be a quick fix to our situation and it doesn`t do our present incumbents any good to suggest they will all be gone next season. They have to dig us out of the hole we`re in because there`s no-one else. The game went against us due to a shocking referee decision. Shortly after their right back fell in his own box under pressure from McCann and got a free kick, our right back did the same but no free kick was awarded and they scored. The referee was awful, he gave us very little and gave Ayr a foul every time they fell over.

The upside today was Raith`s 3nil victory. Hamilton aren`t doing any better than us. A good result against Livingston on Wednesday is not impossible. No point in throwing the towel in yet. We still have the chance of 8th place.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: istvan kozma  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:47

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Paralex, Sat 29 Mar 23:44

Maybe we`re now being slightly too negative after the over the top euphoria of last week. There was never going to be a quick fix to our situation and it doesn`t do our present incumbents any good to suggest they will all be gone next season. They have to dig us out of the hole we`re in because there`s no-one else. The game went against us due to a shocking referee decision. Shortly after their right back fell in his own box under pressure from McCann and got a free kick, our right back did the same but no free kick was awarded and they scored. The referee was awful, he gave us very little and gave Ayr a foul every time they fell over.

The upside today was Raith`s 3nil victory. Hamilton aren`t doing any better than us. A good result against Livingston on Wednesday is not impossible. No point in throwing the towel in yet. We still have the chance of .

KOZMA




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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 29 Mar 23:52

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answer, Sat 29 Mar 23:25

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PARrot, Sat 29 Mar 19:49

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Socks, Sat 29 Mar 18:58



Well, as usual, you are not wrong, socks, but it`s a wee bit more complicated than that.
I don`t get to any matches nowadays because my leisure time isn`t really leisure time.
I care for jnr on Saturdays and try to get some work done on my dilapidated house. Jnr loves Knockhill, and it gives him a rare day out. He wanted me to go to the match next week, though, because he saw me getting excited at the recent news.
So ordinarily, I would be there for such an important match, and may still be there now you`ve twanged a guilt string.
Just the way I was feeling at the time of posting. I would rather spend the time with him doing what he likes than watch us get gubbed again.


This makes complete sense to me . Can you please understand that other people could have anything going on? I believe your Christ would like it


I`m wrestling with that comment a bit.
I think you are saying I should appreciate that other folk have issues that may affect what they post, and you don`t think I take that into consideration when I criticise other posters.
Well, if so, you would be spot on, and I have no doubt our Christ would appreciate that.
I don`t think I have been overly critical of anyone for a very long time.
If I think someone is going over the top in their criticism of players or staff, who can not reply in defence, I will say something. I don`t think I`m too harsh. Maybe you can provide an example to the contrary.
Lately, I have questioned the wisdom of posting about getting rid of several players when we need them to perform.
I don`t think that is overly critical. it just makes sense.
Take a read at what has been posted about several players and tell me if you are surprised they don`t appear to care.
If they aren`t going to be wanted, where do they find the motivation.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: John-Boy  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 00:10

It’s been said before repeatedly, but we can’t win unless we create chances.

And if we create chances, we need players who can score.

And if we take the lead, we need players who can defend.

Therein lies 3 obvious problems.

Do you think I'm the man?

A) Yes, B) A or C) B
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: doctordandruff  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 00:21

I`m so gutted, we now have owners that really seem to want to push the club to the next level but those idiots at Gmbh have utterly holed the club below the waterline. Just bloody typical
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 00:27

Honestly, I’d basically sack absolutely every single player. Even if we’re relegated.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Pars11  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 00:48

The current league positions are all but certain who will be in the top 5 and bottom 3. There is more chance of change in the bottom 3 positions than the top 5 positions. Today we were overhauled by avery average looking outfit, but they score goals. It is difficult to see where we can improve when we cannot even get a ball on target, look at the match stats, they reflect how poor we really are. There is no messiah in Lennon although he vastly improved our overall style of play but not our ability to score. Wanyama was an embarrassment, totally unfit to play in a match although he showed signs of being very capable in his 20 minute stint. Live in fear if we cannot beat Hamilton or draw with Hamilton as that will spur Airdrieonians to lift their game against us at EEP. As for looming playoff, always remember we have never won through in these and this squad will collapse under pressure to achieve. A lot of current faces know they will be moving on in a few weeks time.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: tappies par  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 02:30

If Lennon has been doing his homework and watching our previous games and watching our opponents then what was with the starting 11. Joe Chalmers & Oakley Booth should be on the bench at the very most. Wanyama should never pull on a Pars shirt again. He is slower than a week in jail. Lennon knew he wasn’t match fit but threw him in and look what happened. Bene pretty much scoring an OG then Victor thinking he was playing rugby cost us big time. At 1-0 there was a chance we could have got back in the game. Young getting injured so early took any momentum we had. Replacing him with Yeboah was like being down to 10 men even 9 with Oakley Booth being anonymous. We really need to be playing our best players and going back to basics. No threat upfront, Young out for the season I’ve heard. Kane struggles with fitness and getting 90 minutes out of him. Why no try young Andy Tod upfront?

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 07:29

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wee eck, Sat 29 Mar 21:01

I wasn`t expecting an overnight transformation but I was hoping that NL would have instilled some confidence into the team and that we would have a discernible game plan with some link between defence, midfield and attack. Disappointingly, none of these was evident. Hopefully he`ll have learned more from this game than from a week`s training and can knock them into better shape for Wednesday.

Wanyama looked like a guy who had come out of retirement to take part in a testimonial game. If he`s been training with Barnet he must have been hiding.

I`m not giving up on 8th place. Hamilton aren`t exactly flying and I`d still rather be in our situation than Airdrie`s.


What not scoring goals and shipping loads? At least Airdrie score goals. Best we can hope for is 0-0.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 07:42

Would you rather be 6 points behind Airdrie than 6 points ahead of them with a far superior goal difference?
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 07:46

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wee eck, Sun 30 Mar 07:42

Would you rather be 6 points behind Airdrie than 6 points ahead of them with a far superior goal difference?


I`d rather we started looking like we can win a game. We have no cutting edge up front and most of the goals we lose are from silly mistakes under no pressure.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 07:48

In our last 3 games we’ve had 3 shots on target. All in the Raith game and I wouldn’t even count them as shots tbh.

We create absolutely nothing at all and when we add in the horrendous defending what chance do we have.

In professional football we have an “experienced” centre halve passing it across his 18 yard box which was always a basic rule of what not to do.

The only positive for yesterday was the fact Raith beat Hamilton.

I’ve said on numerous posts that realistically I give ourself no chance on Wednesday, although for the 31st league game this season I hope I’m proved wrong.

It’s all about Hamilton next Saturday, that is our biggest game this season.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 08:21

‘Lately, I have questioned the wisdom of posting about getting rid of several players when we need them to perform.
I don`t think that is overly critical. it just makes sense.
Take a read at what has been posted about several players and tell me if you are surprised they don`t appear to care.
If they aren`t going to be wanted, where do they find the motivation.”

…This is a good point by PARrot.

These players need motivation & not criticism they are all we’ve got.

……show us what you can do and the door stays open.

Lennon needs to find a way. Play the ugliest football in the world, scrap for it but find a way to win. I’m sure he’s trying.

“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: brian  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 08:46

well said Angus_W

I have no idea what some people are thinking,
take a leaf out of ParsTV, yesterday was an easy day to give up before we even started ! but we all stuck in and got going, it was hard conditions at the ground, but Steve sorted it.

you guys suggesting we sack all the players should take a leaf out of his book.
I`m glad your not in charge !

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 08:54

So just because folk are posting things about the performances( which lets be completely honest have been embarrassing at times) you just give up and don`t apply effort? If that is the attitude of some of this lot more reason to get rid of them. If they can`t handle criticism when they are 9th and either lack the effort or ability to get themselves out of it they shouldn`t be in a pars shirt. As big Norrie said "if you don`t want to wear the jersey stay in the dressing room".

I don`t think it`s an attitude problem personally I think most of them just don`t have the ability at this level.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 09:13

Your right cammypar, we’re a squad full of league one standard players at best, minus the odd few.

I think the players are trying there best it’s just that there best is miles away form what we need in the championship. Ability wise we are so poor.

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 09:30

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Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 30 Mar 09:13

Your right cammypar, we’re a squad full of league one standard players at best, minus the odd few.

I think the players are trying there best it’s just that there best is miles away form what we need in the championship. Ability wise we are so poor.


We narrowly avoided the drop last season and we didn`t rebuild. Same thing happening again although I don`t think we will be lucky enough to avoid the drop this time around.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 09:33

I’m still scratching my head as to why he signed Wanyamma to try to dig us out of a hole when he is clearly overweight and unfit! That’s a big negative start for me. Why not bring someone who if fit and can hit the ground running! Was this all a PR stunt that backfired!?

Not having a settled 11 is an issue but there is some obvious things that are so apparent. Bene lost it weeks ago, Chalmers is not a left back, Yeboah is not good enough. Still no leader on the Park. At least Hamilton has fight even if he is not at his best at the moment.

Also Steven’s and Fogarty are good players and should get a start.

Where are Ngweny and KRT, injured? Sam Young on loan? Young and Fogarty paired up well together in defence imo and Young was improving greatly and we get rid of him - baffling!!

Our subs bench looked grim on Saturday. Has Clay got anything to contribute, maybe some grit in midfield!

We seem to get worse every week! If Airdrie win midweek and we don’t then I will be worried! We still have to play them and we can’t beat anyone so that would put them level on points with us.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 09:38

I do wonder what the point in Clay is. He’s surely better than an overweight, out of shape player who’s not played in a year?

Airdrie and Hamilton are creating chances and scoring goals which is the big worry, add that to the fact we aren’t we need to win our game against Hamilton and Airdrie we just have to otherwise we’ll finish 10th.

QP away is also a winnable game, especially if we got there on the back of a win against Hamilton.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 10:05

My gut feeling is we`re done, going down.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: JimDAFC  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 10:32

Seems like the end of every season now we are calling for a total rebuild, that doesn`t comply with making steady improvement at the club.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 10:35

That’s exactly what we need. We only have about 5 players signed up for next season everyone else is out of contract.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 11:02

Ah another poor result, we just need to win the next game and hope Hamilton and airdrie don’t win.

You can say this every week.

It would be just like the pars to beat livi on Wednesday and we’ll all start to believe we can get 8th then lose to hamilton!

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 11:07

I disagree. While we`re crap, so are Hamilton. Expectations were raised with Lennon coming in but the fact is it`s still the same players. Having a first game against the team sitting second was never going to be easy.

IF we stay up, I`d hope for a complete rebuild but not one involving signing a load of unknown kids. We need a mix of experience and youth. While those unlikely to receive new contracts might down tools, I think they need to remember their future employers will be watching so they need to put on a show unless they want to be playing part time.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 11:32

"We only have about 5 players signed up for next season"

13 first team
4 youths.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 11:52

Who are the other 5 1st teamers GJS?

Mehmet, bene, Todd, krh, otoo, young, bray, Kane….

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:01

Still with contracts after the summer:

Kane
McCann
Otoo
Richie-Hosler
Ngwenya
Todd
Mehmet
Benedictus
Young
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Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:06

Fisher, S.Young, Ngwenya, A.Tod, T.Sutherland make up the other 5.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: CrossPar  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:06

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jake89, Sun 30 Mar 12:01

Still with contracts after the summer:

Kane
McCann
Otoo
Richie-Hosler
Ngwenya
Todd
Mehmet
Benedictus
Young


The majority of them need to go.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:18

Is Josh Cooper not under contract?
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:22

9th your kidding if we lose to livvy airdrie beat queens there only 3 behind us and still to visit east end then if we lose to accies will be 5 behind wee neil will need to be miracle worker to keep us up cant score cant keep a clean sheet we are worse than team that got relegated in 2022 at least they put up a fight and could score as private fraser said WERE DOOMED lol

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 12:30

If you adopt the worst case scenario for every match we`re bound to be doomed. It`s not exactly rocket science.

We may be losing daft goals but Hamilton and Airdrie have by far the worst defensive records in the league, 57 and 58 goals respectively.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 13:32

Didn’t realise ngwenya had another year.

McCann isn’t guaranteed another year, it’s just an option that I presume the club can take or leave.

Yeah of those staying otoo and Kane the only ones you would maybe keep, otoo has been very poor this season and Kane is expensive when you consider he barely players 50% of the available minutes.

I suspect if we stayed up and the owners back the manager none of them are making the first eleven next year.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 13:47

Our home form is still borderline acceptable in the grand scheme of things so you`ve just got to put some positive energy into the world and hope that having 4 out of 6 at home will carry us over the line.

Looks like there will be 7k or so at the Accies match so hopefully they`ll rise to the occasion.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 13:54

At what point does Kane lose the tag of being `injury prone`? Since he came on for the last half hour against Morton he has played three complete 90 minutes against Falkirk, Raith and Ayr, which include two artificial surfaces. As I`ve said before, he certainly doesn`t play like a guy who thinks he`s injury prone. He never shirks a challenge.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 14:01

It doesn’t matter how defensively poor Airdrie or Hamilton are as we don’t ever look like scoring.

The biggest concern is both the teams actually create chances and score goals.

If they take the lead against us I don’t see us coming back.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 14:07

I would have thought we have more chance of scoring against a team with a poor defensive record but there you go.

It hasn`t taken much to dent your confidence, A! A! You were c*ck-a-hoop before yesterday`s game!
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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 14:12

Agree, Hamilton will be happy with a point on sat, are we good enough to break them down AND keep a clean sheet?

We beat them 3-2 last time out but oli shaw missed a couple of great chances early doors and we scored a cross come shot.

It’s going to be very thin margins

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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 14:32

Why though as we don’t get the ball into areas to take shots.

Yeah was buzzing all the way down there, then seen the team and apart form then first 20mins until young went off we were poor.

Lennon was screaming at players to move into areas etc….and they were just blanking him.

I hope to god the new manager bounce kicks in on Wednesday and is fully in place for next weekend.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 14:46

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wee eck, Sun 30 Mar 14:07

I would have thought we have more chance of scoring against a team with a poor defensive record but there you go.

It hasn`t taken much to dent your confidence, A! A! You were c*ck-a-hoop before yesterday`s game!


Mate, we couldn`t score in a house of I`ll repute with Elon Musk footing the bill.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 15:17

Let`s hope Lennon goes all Fergie hairdryer on all the players that didn`t listen to him or try hard enough. Let`s also hope he has the balls to drop players and try those waiting in the wings. Those unused players kniw that places are up for grabs so they`ll be champing at the bit for a chance. We know how good the Tods are, Todd as well. Get some different players in against livi, another hard game against a top of the league team, we may lose but it gives these players a chance to show they`re willing to work, then play them again against the team just above us. I still believe in Matty Todd. He`ll give everything for us.

McPake and Tidser came across as being timid. Maybe a good rollicking will work. We can only hope.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Jock Par36  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 15:42

We can`t score goals, we cannot defend.
I hate to be Mr Doom and Gloom, but I think
we`re doomed. All the signs are there.
10th it will be.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 15:42

Queens Park v Livingston today cup final,so hopefully Livingston have a hard game and effects them on Wednesday against us.

I expect Airdrie to beat Queens Park on Wednesday so could possibly close the gap to 3 points.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 16:27

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wee eck, Sun 30 Mar 13:54

At what point does Kane lose the tag of being `injury prone`? Since he came on for the last half hour against Morton he has played three complete 90 minutes against Falkirk, Raith and Ayr, which include two artificial surfaces. As I`ve said before, he certainly doesn`t play like a guy who thinks he`s injury prone. He never shirks a challenge.


Maybe when he plays at least half a season? Certainly not after 3 games though...
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 16:36

Half a season without being subbed or missing a game? Most players will be `injury prone` on that basis.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: summeragent  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 16:41

If Airdrie beat QP then I we have to beat Hamilton. If we can’t I think we more than likely 10th as Airdrie have more momentum than us.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 16:50

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wee eck, Sun 30 Mar 16:36

Half a season without being subbed or missing a game? Most players will be `injury prone` on that basis.


You are missing my point Eck. You asked at what stage a player that already has the label would lose it. IMHO it is a lot more than 3 games and being consistently available for 18 or so games would be a decent measure I`d say. If he were being subbed for the later stages of a few those I wouldn`t complain. After all he is a combative player later on in his career so will most likely pick up knocks.
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 16:51

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kozmasrightfoot, Sun 30 Mar 15:17

Let`s hope Lennon goes all Fergie hairdryer on all the players that didn`t listen to him or try hard enough. Let`s also hope he has the balls to drop players and try those waiting in the wings. Those unused players kniw that places are up for grabs so they`ll be champing at the bit for a chance. We know how good the Tods are, Todd as well. Get some different players in against livi, another hard game against a top of the league team, we may lose but it gives these players a chance to show they`re willing to work, then play them again against the team just above us. I still believe in Matty Todd. He`ll give everything for us.

McPake and Tidser came across as being timid. Maybe a good rollicking will work. We can only hope.


Rollickings don`t improve confidence

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 17:03

Kane`s injury proneness was assumed to relate to his calves. After the Morton game Tidser said he`d persuaded him to take part because a medical report had been favourable. It gave the impression that it was maybe partially a mental problem. The physical way Kane plays exposes him to the possibility of injury but, if he picked up a fracture or ligament injury, say, I don`t think that would necessarily mean he was `injury prone`. It`s another one of these cliches loved by commentators and fans.
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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 17:13

Were lucky to have him, but his injury record is why we`ve got him

It`s sad that a lot of players haven`t learned from him, McCann would benefit hugely from working and watching him, I don`t want to criticise him, and it`s probably not his fault, but he has not picked anything up from 5 years ago, still just runs-i feel more intensive coaching with him would be a good last chance solution for him.

Kane is physical, puts his body on the line, but he is no horse, he`s a cute player, another one I like whose overlooked is Curtis Main!

Anyways, back to the original, I still think we will pull something from our home games

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Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 17:27

Neil’s, McCann was also coached by the likes of Crawford and played in squads with many other strikers over the 6 seasons and hasn’t picked up anything to improve his game. Todorov could have helped him with competing in the air and positioning in the box etc but nope. Not learned a thing from wingers either but we’ve decided to try and play him there. Just not got a football brain.

He’s 24 in 2 months, it might be time to accept what all the evidence is telling us, much better players have left without the fans calling for them to be given more time etc.

Agree on Kane, nobody minds him coming off after 70mins every game but He’s just missed too many games and it’s not been one knock it’s a series of them.

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 Re: Looking like 9th
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sun 30 Mar 20:44

Aye, agree, it`s like with Paul Allan, who hardly played, you realise, jeez he`s been here years, how did that happen, he`s a grown man now and not much has happened.

Just didn`t want to slate him that`s all, yep clearly doesn`t have any football brain really and needs a move. We can develop and wait on progress at 18 or 19, 20 at a push, but mid 20s it`s pretty clear.

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