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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:09
1. Mehmet
2. Gilmour
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:16
Tod, he put the ball in the net
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:21
John Tod by a distance
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:21
Probably Gilmour
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:24
Gilmour for me.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:28
Quote:
Jeffery, Sat 26 Jul 17:21
John Tod by a distance
Agree
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:38
Gilmour for me.
John Tod a close second
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:43
I didn’t really think J Tod had that good a game to be honest.
Gilmour for me.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:43
Otoo for me
Closely followed by Macleod
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:56
Thought Mehmet, made a couple good saves to keep us in the game, and also for his confidence.
John Tod has been a real eye opener, looks like a first team player already, and so young!
Otoo was really involved too, Gilmour is going to get plenty MOM this season.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Sat 26 Jul 17:58
Quote:
buffy, Sat 26 Jul 17:43
Otoo for me
Closely followed by Macleod
Otoo? You`ve got to be kidding? Did very little with the ball despite the acres of space he had on the left - as far as I could see he kept cutting inside and passing the ball square or backwards?
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Topic Originator: bobopar
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:00
I know he came on too late to get mom but I thought Keith Bray looked good when he come on.
John Tod or Gilmore other stand outs for me, young lads up front got kicked to pieces. Don’t know how Andrew Tod was still able to stand at end of match.
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Topic Originator: FRED1981
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:02
Otoo never beat the RB once JTod a standout .
F muller
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:03
John Tod was poor in the first half ,along with the other 10 , second half slightly better, Andrew Tod was man of the match because he scored which none of the rest of the team looked capable off.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:05
John Tod or Gilmour for me, thought Kearney did some decent things as well, but most of the team was abysmal until the subs came on..
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:05
Quote:
neilholland999, Sat 26 Jul 17:58
Quote:
buffy, Sat 26 Jul 17:43
Otoo for me
Closely followed by Macleod
Otoo? You`ve got to be kidding? Did very little with the ball despite the acres of space he had on the left - as far as I could see he kept cutting inside and passing the ball square or backwards?
Have to agree about otto,he had plenty of the ball but did nothing ,so many opertunities to cross into the box but decided on not doing so and passing to a player a few feet away
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:12
McLeod ……..
He was everywhere in the SH & gave us energy in the last 3rd. Nothing much was happening till he came on.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 26 Jul 18:53
Mullin
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 26 Jul 19:14
John Tod for me, looks as good if not better than Mullen.
Potential Scotland U21 pairing at CH?
Before the season started I was expecting both Tod brothers would be sent out on loan to gain experience but both are physically up to the challenge.
From what I have seen they will be an integral part of our 1st team squad.
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Topic Originator: steaua
Date: Sat 26 Jul 19:17
Mullin.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 26 Jul 19:17
MacLeod and Bray certainly brought a bit of energy and enthusiasm when they came on. Gilmour is going to be the anchor in midfield although I think he lost a tackle today - the only one I can remember in the last three games! Andrew Tod could be one of those invaluable players - a non-striker who can score goals regularly.
I`d find it hard to pick someone out as the team only played well in the second half but I`d like to say Bene has been excellent in the last three games and has lead by example despite the dark cloud which must be hanging over him just now.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 26 Jul 19:24
Quote:
k76, Sat 26 Jul 19:14
John Tod for me, looks as good if not better than Mullen.
Potential Scotland U21 pairing at CH?
Before the season started I was expecting both Tod brothers would be sent out on loan to gain experience but both are physically up to the challenge.
From what I have seen they will be an integral part of our 1st team squad.
I was thinking similar watching the game today.
John Tod only turned 18 in May. If Chilokoa-Mullin has played for Scotland U19 and U21 then someone should be looking at Tod, at least for the U19s.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 26 Jul 20:39
K76 and Jeffrey, out of interest how can you say John Todd is physically up for the challenge? Has he ever played a game against a club in our league which as we know is chock full of big physical experienced players.
He’s done well in the 3 wins but they have been against 2 part time league 2 teams and a league 1 team which has been largely gutted due to financial issues.
Let’s see how these guys are doing after a fair few championship games, same with Andrew tod, the standard in the championship is a massive jump.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 26 Jul 20:57
Berkeley,
League 1 & 2 is still adult football with men and not children unlike you.
John did ok against Hearts which is full adult football in Scotland.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 26 Jul 22:43
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 26 Jul 20:39
K76 and Jeffrey, out of interest how can you say John Todd is physically up for the challenge? Has he ever played a game against a club in our league which as we know is chock full of big physical experienced players.
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It`s Tod.
I was only commenting on today`s performance not his physical ability in a different competition.
Not a clue if he`ll be decent in the championship but it seems he`ll play a part.
He won headers against a big strong striker who looked about 6`4" today, so it`s possible.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 26 Jul 22:48
Would have given it to Gilmour myself but J.Tod did play really well so can have no complaints about him getting it.
Thought McLeod & Bray took the performance up a level when they came on, McLeod did the same on Tuesday. Look forward to seeing more of them both.
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Topic Originator: cumbrian par
Date: Sat 26 Jul 22:51
Probably Deniz for me, although the game turned decisively in our favour when McLeod came on.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 26 Jul 22:58
Berkey always has reservations about players who maybe haven`t played at a higher level. I find that odd because I would have thought someone who likes to assess players` strengths and weaknesses would have a pretty strong opinion on whether he thinks they are capable of coping with a higher standard. NL, like all managers, has to make these judgements every time he looks at a potential signing from a lower league or maybe even from a different country. He doesn`t have the luxury of deferring a decision until he sees the player performing at the required level. It`s the main difference between an `armchair` manager and a `dug-out` manager.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 26 Jul 23:13
Agree with Berkey (& Socks comments on the match thread) on J Tod.
The boys young and he’s got a bright future ahead of him but think we need to temper expectations a little.
I wasn’t blown away by his performance, certainly not MOTM, he tripped, made a dodgy pass, one of Stirlings chances was a cross that he let go past him and failed to deal with which Mehmet saved.
He had one good run forward with the ball which was positive and the rest of the game his passing was better but we were under very little pressure.
If I go back to the Hamilton game, thought he should’ve won the ball from Shaw before he scored.
He’s definitely not better than Mullen right now, he’s gone through a bit of a rough patch granted but thought he was better of the two today, got the winner for us at Hamilton and was excellent for us last season.
He’s a really good prospect and will benefit from these run outs but I don’t think we should be relying on him as a starter in the league at the moment though.
Post Edited (Sat 26 Jul 23:15)
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sat 26 Jul 23:26
Gilmour hasn’t put a foot wrong since he joined us. He might turn out to be the signing of the season. I think him and Amade are a perfect pairing. While I give him MOM … Bene too has been excellent and is much needed with two youngsters beside him.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 26 Jul 23:59
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sat 26 Jul 22:48
Would have given it to Gilmour myself but J.Tod did play really well so can have no complaints about him getting it.
Thought McLeod & Bray took the performance up a level when they came on, McLeod did the same on Tuesday. Look forward to seeing more of them both.
Not just you mate - but it’s Rory MACLoed
- Ewan McLeod didn’t play.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 27 Jul 00:02
Quote:
Luxembourg Par, Sat 26 Jul 23:59
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sat 26 Jul 22:48
Would have given it to Gilmour myself but J.Tod did play really well so can have no complaints about him getting it.
Thought McLeod & Bray took the performance up a level when they came on, McLeod did the same on Tuesday. Look forward to seeing more of them both.
Not just you mate - but it’s Rory MACLoed
- Ewan McLeod didn’t play.
Apologies mate, of course it is 🤦🏼♂️
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 27 Jul 07:53
Wee eck I’ve got reservations about young players who haven’t played at our current level or many levels below being talked about as ready made championship players and future Scotland youth prospects. Bray and Kearney have at least plenty games under their belt but it’s still a step up for them.
Tod hasn’t even been on loan to a team in the SFL so we’re basing all this on 4 matches, it’s very premature. He might well come onto a game this season but let’s have a look after we’re played your ayr’s and Morton’s etc.
Given mullan’s current form we’re going into this season very reliant on Bene will be interesting to see how that plays out both on the pitch and in the courts.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 27 Jul 08:55
It would be interesting to see your recruitment and selection policy. It sounds as if you would never take a chance on anyone but experienced, proven players. That`s just unrealistic for a club like ours.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 27 Jul 09:59
For balance, I think Tod’s done alright so far. Let’s not forget the struggles we had against Forfar at home last season, so there’s clearly been some improvement.
That said, we do have a habit of talking up the youngsters a bit too much at times. Tod’s held his own so far but the real test will come when he’s up against experienced Championship players week in, week out. Personally, I don’t think he’s better than Mullen at this stage, even though Mullen hasn’t exactly looked convincing either so far this season.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:06
Our usual way of talking up youngsters is to suggest they go out on loan. For me John Tod has more pluses than minuses about his game and he`d be better improving his game with us than with a club in a lower league. NL must have seen loads of young players coming through during his career and he seems happy to play him just now. Like most young players he`ll probably be rested from tine to time.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:11
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 27 Jul 10:06
Our usual way of talking up youngsters is to suggest they go out on loan. For me John Tod has more pluses than minuses about his game and he`d be better improving his game with us than with a club in a lower league. NL must have seen loads of young players coming through during his career and he seems happy to play him just now. Like most young players he`ll probably be rested from tine to time.
Totally agree with Wee Eck here, think both Tod’s will be better off staying as part of the squad and given the space to continue to develop. If both show the consistent levels to be starters, then that’s what they should be.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:20
Once again Gilmour, goes about his business efficiently!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:28
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 27 Jul 09:59
For balance, I think Tod’s done alright so far. Let’s not forget the struggles we had against Forfar at home last season, so there’s clearly been some improvement.
That said, we do have a habit of talking up the youngsters a bit too much at times. Tod’s held his own so far but the real test will come when he’s up against experienced Championship players week in, week out. Personally, I don’t think he’s better than Mullen at this stage, even though Mullen hasn’t exactly looked convincing either so far this season.
Interesting comments, Cammy. You write that the real tests will come when they face experienced championship players, week in week out, yet when I suggest that we need experienced players in to help, you say we are doing fine?
Maybe I’ve misinterpreted your intentions, so please correct me if I’m wrong.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:30
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sun 27 Jul 10:11
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 27 Jul 10:06
Our usual way of talking up youngsters is to suggest they go out on loan. For me John Tod has more pluses than minuses about his game and he`d be better improving his game with us than with a club in a lower league. NL must have seen loads of young players coming through during his career and he seems happy to play him just now. Like most young players he`ll probably be rested from tine to time.
Totally agree with Wee Eck here, think both Tod’s will be better off staying as part of the squad and given the space to continue to develop. If both show the consistent levels to be starters, then that’s what they should be.
I think Tod’s had a decent enough start, no doubt about it, but some of the shouts on here are getting a bit carried away. Let’s not forget Mullen has captained Scotland U21s. Even if he’s not hit top form yet this season I still think as of now he is better than Tod.
If Tod keeps developing the way he has, then he could turn into a real asset for us. But until we see him tested properly against Championship level players week in, week out, it’s hard to say for sure what his ceiling actually is but it won`t eb long until we see him at this level. I think the fact he has started the games he has probably indicates he will start v morton. Promising signs, but still early days.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 27 Jul 10:39
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sun 27 Jul 10:28
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 27 Jul 09:59
For balance, I think Tod’s done alright so far. Let’s not forget the struggles we had against Forfar at home last season, so there’s clearly been some improvement.
That said, we do have a habit of talking up the youngsters a bit too much at times. Tod’s held his own so far but the real test will come when he’s up against experienced Championship players week in, week out. Personally, I don’t think he’s better than Mullen at this stage, even though Mullen hasn’t exactly looked convincing either so far this season.
Interesting comments, Cammy. You write that the real tests will come when they face experienced championship players, week in week out, yet when I suggest that we need experienced players in to help, you say we are doing fine?
Maybe I’ve misinterpreted your intentions, so please correct me if I’m wrong.
I’ve never once said we don’t need signings? I’ve just pointed out that not a single one of the players we’ve brought in so far were considered “experienced” or "marquee" when they signed, yet they’re already looking like really smart bits of business. It’s obvious we’re still a few bodies short, and I’ve not argued otherwise. For what it`s worth we could be doing with a gk LWB and a striker.
What I don’t get is folk getting their y fronts in a twist about so called “marquee signings.” We’ve been down that road before and it didn`t work.I think the current model has worked so far with Gilmour looking a brilliant bit of business.
Tod has done well but the test will be at league level to see if he can cope at this level.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sun 27 Jul 11:09
How many games does Andy Tod have to score in to be called a striker?
I don`t care what position he`s supposed to play, I just want him in the team.
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