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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:22
DUNFERMLINE: Billy Terrell: Chris Hamilton (c), Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen, Kieran Ngwenya, Robbie Fraser: Matty Todd, Charlie Gilmour, Josh Cooper: Rory Macleod, Andrew Tod, Zak Rudden
SUBS: Kyle Benedictus, Ewan Otoo, Kane Ritchie-Hosler, Sam Fisher, Barney Stewart, Keith Bray, Tashan Oakley-Boothe, Lucas Fyfe, Deniz Mehmet (GK)
AYR UNITED: Liam Russell: Nick McAllister, Kevin Holt, Leon King, Scott McMann: Ben Dempsey (c), Stuart Bannigan, Mark McKenzie, Marco Rus, Jamie Murphy, Anton Dowds
SUBS: Jamie Hislop, Shaun Want, Dylan Watret, Dom Thomas, Jack Simpson, Aaron Brown, Lucas McRoberts, Curtis Main, David Mitchell (GK)
REFEREE: Calum Scott
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:25
Whats the formation??
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Topic Originator: Sammy_Must_Die
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:26
Quote:
shellypar, Sat 20 Dec 14:25
Whats the formation??
Depends if Ngwenya can play CH. If not if say 442 with Robbie Fraser wide left.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:27
I wonder if the ref will be dancing on his own today?
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:28
Strange team
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:35
Very worrying line up
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:37
Caceres and Kane injured?
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:38
Maybe the illness bug thats going around, quite common for players to be missing december time
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 20 Dec 14:39
Really hope we’re on not trying to play with 3 CBs today with only one recognised CB starting.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:06
All over the place. 0-1
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:07
0-1 again. Where was our defence?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:09
Is there illness, a bug or has Lennon chucked it?
Awful lineup, awful start, again.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:13
Hamilton at right wing back worries me a bit. Doesn`t have the pace for it.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:13
Dandy Warhol wrote:
> Is there illness, a bug or has Lennon chucked it?
> Awful lineup, awful start, again.
>
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They said that there was doubt about J.Tod due to a knock he picked up in the Arbroath game but anyone who watched the warm up that day will have seen his knee was strapped beforehand so maybe they have their games mixed up.
IB hinted at a few issues/knocks post match on Tuesday whilst I can`t recall his exact words it might well have been a pointer to a bug as that`s been the rumour.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:14
Maybe I`m biased and in a minority, but I still don`t get why Connor Young is playing and scoring for East Kilbride when he could be playing and scoring for us.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:19
Quote:
CitizenPar, Sat 20 Dec 15:14
Maybe I`m biased and in a minority, but I still don`t get why Connor Young is playing and scoring for East Kilbride when he could be playing and scoring for us.
Because East Kilbride don`t play in the Championship where he couldn`t score.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:28
Absolutely bloody horrendous
Few supporters just left the stadium
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:28
Ffs
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:28
0-2. Absolutely horrid defending again.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:28
This is awful. Doing literally everything wrong. Wrong formation, wrong personnel, can`t pass, can`t cross, can`t defend one-on-one, can`t take a man on one-on-one, midfield all over the place, second to every ball... and now 2 down. Sigh.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:30
I might go home at HT
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:30
Don`t think many will be surprised the form has been poor and the back line makeshift today, already thinking of next Saturday in Kirkcaldy.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:37
I won`t be going to Kirkcaldy next week.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:38
Anton Dowes is being given so much space by our defence. We are seriously off the pace here. Ayr wins every contested ball. Ou instict always is to pass back rather than forward. Our passing is woeful. More of this and I could see us lose this 5-0.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:39
We’re been really poor for weeks now, the youngsters look like they have run out of steam and there’s zero intensity to our play.
It’s like the end of the mcpake reign, the players look done in. Too many players playing today from last season.
This has been coming. Just have to hope there’s some good recruitment early in in Jan, we need 3 or 4 who can come straight into the starting line up.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:47
Today`s **** show will not surprise most folk , we have been honking for weeks now , giving cheap goal after cheap goal away
We need to get folk in the door to help these youngsters or we might just manage to get 8th position
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:50
On a really poor slump right now, the defending in particular has been woeful. A lot to clean up and have to hope they can find some quality in January to supplement the squad, because a few of these guys are just miles off it.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:51
O.F.F. Shocking. 0-3.
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:51
Keystone cops stuff in defence again.
Keeper flapping away and no challenge on the loose ball.
Playing for pride in the second half now.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:53
Jesus what a rollercoaster, we went to Ayr and won 1-0 on the tele about 7 weeks ago and now at home 3 down at HT. Really desperate form of late.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:54
Game over by half time, it’s worse than tidser ball.
Let’s just concentrate on staying mid table nevermind getting anywhere near the top 4.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:55
This drop off in performance has been massive, they look nothing like the team from earlier in the season.
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:55
No idea what is going on with the squad these days but the defending is embarrassing and they have no drive going forward. Reverted to last season`s play style of toothless passing and calamity defending.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:56
A nothing team going nowhere. Better than last year though so we should be right thankful. Miles and miles away from a good team. Raith next so I’d stay hidden under your bed for that.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:56
Will give it 5 minutes in the second half but can see me leaving very early.
This is as bad as the Hamilton game under Kenny or that run we had under Grant or the spell where we had all those injuries under McPake. Can`t even get basics right like getting to second balls, pressing as a unit, testing their keeper (who looks like he`ll concede if we hit the target high and hard).
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:56
Will give it 5 minutes in the second half but can see me leaving very early.
This is as bad as the Hamilton game under Kenny or that run we had under Grant or the spell where we had all those injuries under McPake. Can`t even get basics right like getting to second balls, pressing as a unit, testing their keeper (who looks like he`ll concede if we hit the target high and hard).
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:57
Shambles.
Hammy is not a RWB. Fisher is a RWB.
Cooper + McLeod are passengers.
‘Hello my name is Jefferson - I’m happy to be here let’s go!’
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 20 Dec 15:59
Totally clueless from the whole team front to back.
Utterly sh1te!!!!
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:01
James Bord is here , so perhaps it`s a cunning plan to persuade him to spend big money in January...
Seriously, there`s a huge gulf between these two teams. We have too many guys either playing out of their natural position, or out of form, or both.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:01
Lennon needs to GTF
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:04
When is our manager back !
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:04
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Sat 20 Dec 16:01
Lennon needs to GTF
Lennon is only back in the past few days so can`t blame him. The lineup is baffling but must be down to injuries otherwise that defensive lineup is bizarre.
Need to get stuck in now. Nothing to lose. Bring Barney on if nothing else.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:05
Rigger Al wrote:
> When is our manager back !
He`s in the stand due back in the dugout next week I believe
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:05
Cheers
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:08
We have to be honest , we have been rank rotten lately , I was talking on Thursday to a neebur from Ayr , and he told me that if Ayr score first against us we will cave in and it will end up being pars 0 - Ayr 5 , at present I am really glad I didn`t put a bet on with him
The Management have to take some of the blame for this **** show of late also instead of making excuse they are young lads and are going to make mistakes , we know that will happen but surely not week after week
Enough said as we have 45 mins to turn it around ( I wish )
As it stands only Ayr at present and Ross County have put 3 past us in the league
Queen of the south put 4 past us ,
Post Edited (Sat 20 Dec 16:13)
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:16
Zac Rudden`s first touch today is dreadful.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:17
Paying the price for not recruiting enough experience and keeping the likes of tash.
It’s like every single youngster has just hit the wall and we are chucking them out there hoping they play themselves back into form.
What a game for bord to come and watch. He’ll be wondering what he’s done, he’s spend a decent amount of money to only move us only 2-3 places up the table.
Wow suddenly we look like we might be a football team again! 3-2
Post Edited (Sat 20 Dec 16:27)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:27
COMEBACK?!?!?!?!??!
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:28
2-3. Superb goal from Ngwenya!
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:28
Well well. Ngwneya on a hat-trick.
Not sure what the Ayr goalie was doing trying to put someone in an head lock then rolling around on the deck as if he`s the one fouled.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:29
That`s certainly better , cmon Ye Pars
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:30
That`s more like it, came out with some drive to their play.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:31
It’s no surprise that Rudden has had more clubs than Rory McIlroy!! Just awful!
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 16:59
Why do we insist on farting around with these intricate short free kicks that look like we`ve made up on the spot and inevitably fk it up.
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:04
A game of two halves. Shambolic first half, why does it take a 3 goal deficit for the Pars to show up? Should be playing like they did in the second half from the start.
The team shape first half was a joke, what were the management thinking?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:05
As frustrating a game as it could be. A good second-half performance, but just not enough. Mid-table looks like a realistic ambition at the moment, when we keep failing to win at home. MOM for me, Ngwenya. Gilmour was good, too. But what a difference TOB made to our threat going forward after he came on for Hamilton—alas, zilch points. no Christmas bonus for us.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:16
Disgusting performance in that first half, the shape and tactics were awful. Hamilton is not a fucken full back!!! Fans deserve better than we are watching atm.
We can forget the playoffs again, the obsession with young players is taking this club backwards. We need 2-3 old heads in the January window. It will be relegation playoffs at this rate.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:17
God bless Kieran Ngwenya
He’s getting a special buffy Christmas card the night
Merry Christmas ya filthy animal
I may be slightly inebriated in Legends.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:18
The first half and tactics were bloody abysmal, had people leaving at half time
Effe
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:19
Perplexing line-up and shape in the first half. Maybe this was because some players were carrying niggles or recovering from colds? At least changes got made and the second half performance was pretty decent. Anyone get a close view of the handball incidents? There seemed to be a decent shout for a penalty.
Glad to see Ngwenya showing what he can do.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:32
I hope that the much-rumoured striker from the Italian league is coming in the new year. We are so weak up front. Barney apart, we offer nothing.
Andrew Tod is looking burnt out at the moment, and Zac Rudden constantly makes the wrong decisions. As for Chris Kane, his hold-up play is excellent, but two league goals aren`t a healthy return for our top striker. Kieran Ngwenya today equalled his total in one match.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:35
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Sat 20 Dec 15:30
I might go home at HT
Big doors were open in the Norrie at H/T loads leaving
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:37
Quote:
OzPar, Sat 20 Dec 16:16
Zac Rudden`s first touch today is dreadful.
Better off with Zac Effron today
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:37
Quote:
dafc-chris1, Sat 20 Dec 16:01
Lennon needs to GTF
You really wrote that, didn`t you?
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:38
Quote:
buffy, Sat 20 Dec 17:17
God bless Kieran Ngwenya
He’s getting a special buffy Christmas card the night
Merry Christmas ya filthy animal
I may be slightly inebriated in Legends.
One too many BabyChams 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍻🍻🍻
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:40
Quote:
OzPar, Sat 20 Dec 17:32
I hope that the much-rumoured striker from the Italian league is coming in the new year. We are so weak up front. Barney apart, we offer nothing.
Andrew Tod is looking burnt out at the moment, and Zac Rudden constantly makes the wrong decisions. As for Chris Kane, his hold-up play is excellent, but two league goals aren`t a healthy return for our top striker. Kieran Ngwenya today equalled his total in one match.
How strewart and bray didnt start is beyond me let alone rest of bizarre team selection and tactics
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:41
As awful as thar first half was - and it was stinking - we probably deserved a point in the end. Raith won`t be as accommodating next week.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:44
The first half was a joke.
There not many teams that look better with 3 at the back but genuinely, I think we look better with 3 at the back and I think Ngwenya showed today he can play as the left centre back.
Hammy should be banned from Right back - sine die.
I still think Andy Tod needs subbed at some point. I don’t think leaving him on while he’s not performing well is helping him. I’d have left MacLeod on and taken A Tod off. Just isn’t offering enough. I think it’s his work rate tbh.
Slightly concerned about the Rovers game
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:46
I`d mostly put today`s mess at the door of the management team.
In hindsight it was probably the wrong shape & personnel in the first half. There`s been some odd choices in the last two games in terms of players in weird positions (Gilmour at CH midweek, Hamilton at RB today).
It was clearly not working in the first half and could maybe have been changed up sooner than waiting until half-time.
Happy we made a better fist of it in the second half but that`s a case of polishing a turd as the game was largely lost by then and Ayr probably took their foot of the gas.
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:48
Quote:
OzPar, Sat 20 Dec 17:32
I hope that the much-rumoured striker from the Italian league is coming in the new year. We are so weak up front. Barney apart, we offer nothing.
Andrew Tod is looking burnt out at the moment, and Zac Rudden constantly makes the wrong decisions. As for Chris Kane, his hold-up play is excellent, but two league goals aren`t a healthy return for our top striker. Kieran Ngwenya today equalled his total in one match.
Don’t think it’s fair to say 2 goals from Kane isn’t good enough he plays the last 15 minutes of games how many do you want him to score?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:52
Well, I think that first half defensive performance was the worst I have ever seen.
Completely disorganised and the lack of pace at the back was unreal.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:54
Moaning about Chris Kanes goal return is quite something considering he hasn’t actually completed 90 minutes this season.
Everybody in the crowd and at the club knows, if he was able to keep fit week in week out he’s a 20+ goal striker easily.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:55
13en: I think you have answered your own question - our main striker has not played often enough.
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:57
Quote:
par_33, Sat 20 Dec 17:54
Moaning about Chris Kanes goal return is quite something considering he hasn’t actually completed 90 minutes this season.
Everybody in the crowd and at the club knows, if he was able to keep fit week in week out he’s a 20 goal striker easily.
This season so far
Andy Tod averages a goal every 162 minutes
Barney averages a goal every 180 minutes
Chris Kane averages a goal every 184 minutes
Don’t think it’s fair to say he should be scoring more than two, I agree he’s top scorer if he could play every game
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 17:59
Realistically the game was over after the 3rd goal. Yet another poor start. It was rinse and repeat of the last few games. I don`t think the keeper had a save to make 1st half. The trajectory is relegation scrap at the moment.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 20 Dec 18:02
Andy tod absolutely needs a rest while he recoups to go again, how he started while Barney remains on the bench is baffling. His goals have been vital but when he’s not on his game we’re a man down and he hasn’t been on his game for some time now. Where was Kane today or had he already played this week?
Jury’s out on Macleod for me, couple of nice touches here and there but generally he’s anonymous for the majority of games, he’s one who should be coming off the bench most weeks while he adjusts to first team football but as we don’t have enough experienced quality in that role he’s got no competition.
Not expecting anything from next weeks game but absolutely have to beat county after that, ideally we can bring 1 or 2 in before the county game who can come straight in as badly need a refresh. No point brining on the likes of tash or KRH to try and get points.
We’re now 9th in the form table and are struggling to be competative in games until the game is pretty much over and out opponents ease off.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: BigTpar1986
Date: Sat 20 Dec 18:03
Quote:
ParfectXI, Sat 20 Dec 16:31
It’s no surprise that Rudden has had more clubs than Rory McIlroy!! Just awful!
Absolutely terrible shout this!
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Topic Originator: par58
Date: Sat 20 Dec 18:10
Very poor today. We never deserved anything from the game. Rallying second half 3 down nowhere near makes up for first half shambles. Team selection and formation also wanting.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sat 20 Dec 18:13
For anyone thats watched us consistently since the St Johnstone game that first half was not surprising at all, we`ve been watching the same game over and over again for weeks.
That lineup today was shameful, I get we are struggling for defenders but Lennon has recruited that squad for a three at the back. Whenever we`ve played a four this season it hasn`t worked once. Hammy at right back and Matty in centre mid!? Wow. Dropped our best striker after he got us back into the game midweek. Mcleod and A Tod as wingers is baffling. The assistant manager takes absolutely zero responsibility for any of this in his post match interview btw.
The second half shows overall why we are not as bad as we have been in recent seasons because funnily enough we could easily have drawn that game but there are still far too many players from last season that are involved in the starting elevens, and that bench today speaks for itself.
At the moment I think we`ll struggle to finish above a Morton for example but January could swing that. Ultimately this season is a season of gelling good young players and getting the last of the deadwood out from the old regime for next season.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 20 Dec 18:14
I`m not seeing much improvement in the younger players. Barney has come on well, and Robbie Fraser is a success story. I get the whole experience thing, but the corner in the last minute should have gone into the box. That`s not lack of experience, just poor decision-making. A poor decision to play a left back in central defence lost us the game. Not his fault and he more than made up for it with the goals. We are too static up front, don`t run into space or turn defenders. Alot of punting the ball today like QIS hatt just went back to Ayr.
G Wardrope
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