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Topic Originator: D.A. Eff Ceee
Date: Thu 5 Feb 14:06
Munn has been recalled by Rangers.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 5 Feb 15:19
Not surprising. Hopefully Terrells off field issue was sorted at the time and him and Mehmet can compete for the jersey again!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 5 Feb 15:41
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 5 Feb 15:19
Not surprising. Hopefully Terrells off field issue was sorted at the time and him and Mehmet can compete for the jersey again!
The fact that Terrell`s been on the bench in recent games is an indicator that it`s sorted, Dave. I don`t believe it was anything major. The reason he hasn`t started any games since is more to do with Mehmet having played so well that he couldn`t be left out.
Who plays on Saturday will depend on how well both keepers have performed in training and perhaps how irritated the gaffer was at Airdrie`s first goal last week.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 05 Feb 15:42)
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 5 Feb 15:57
Good luck to Mason. Didn’t work out for him here, but he might get a move which does.
Is there another keeper incoming?
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:08
Hopefully this means we have another goalie inbound to come in and start on Saturday.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:45
Just spotted Gigi Buffon in Tesco up at Duloch...
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:45
Topic Originator: Never10yairds like
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:08
Hopefully this means we have another goalie inbound to come in and start on Saturday.
Mehmet saved us two points in Perth. His error on Saturday did not lose us the game. There were 10 in front of him that lost the game.
New keeper …if we get one….will be just as susceptible to errors as the rest.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:54
Agree.The guys in front of him lost the game,their attitude was all wrong.They never showed any urgency,right from the start.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 5 Feb 16:59
with it happening today and not on Monday, im not sure there is a keeper up here that will be available and better than what is left if they want a replacement.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 5 Feb 17:10
Personally I would be happy with Terrell back in goals on Saturday. Mehmet did well for a few games but he is liable to let in some howlers which he demonstrated against Airdrie. Terrell is better with his feet and for coming out for balls.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 5 Feb 17:44
Terrell has made a few howlers himself, arguably more than Mehmet this season.
anyway a quote from Lennon in the Courier:
“We may have to bring another goalkeeper in. Again, we’re just working away on that in the background.”
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Thu 5 Feb 18:00
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 5 Feb 17:44
Terrell has made a few howlers himself, arguably more than Mehmet this season.
anyway a quote from Lennon in the Courier:
“We may have to bring another goalkeeper in. Again, we’re just working away on that in the background.”
Aye a 1st choice keeper… Terrell is a decent young keeper he will learn from mistakes ….unlike the other one….
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Thu 5 Feb 18:25
One error of judgement all season from Deniz and he`s slaughtered again. What about the ten players in front of him last Saturday? Deniz has actually won us points recently, two at St Johnstone for a start.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Thu 5 Feb 18:37
Are we also forgetting mehmets save Fae Bowie against Hibs as well a take.
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Thu 5 Feb 18:44
Quote:
CitizenPar, Thu 5 Feb 18:25
One error of judgement all season from Deniz and he`s slaughtered again. What about the ten players in front of him last Saturday? Deniz has actually won us points recently, two at St Johnstone for a start.
What about the 10 players in front of
Deniz against St Johnstone, are you saying they actually only won one point ?
A team wins as a team and loses as a team (or draws) , any individual successes or mistakes should also be treated as collective responsibility......
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Thu 5 Feb 18:46
Mehmet has a track record of conceding howlers. Yes, he can be a good shot stopper and has saved a few pens but he doesn’t come and claim many crosses and will drop the odd clanger.
Terrel has let a few soft goals in but not as bad as that first goal on Saturday, most high school goalies would have kept that out, it was truly horrendous.
I don’t know what goalies would be available as we only have free agents or SPL loans as possibilities now.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Thu 5 Feb 20:18
I think Terrell is #1 in Lennon`s eyes, dropped due to this disciplinary issue before the Rovers game & Mehmet did well for 3 games, but I always thought that once Mehmet had a poor game Terrell would come back in.
The fact that it`s a cup game this weekend probably makes it even simpler for Lennon to give Terrell a start.
It`s a shame for Deniz & he`s been really professional but he`s had loads of chances with us & mistakes like the one on Sat just shouldn`t be ok at our level, we need to be ruthless with players if we`re going to kick on.
Agree Munn just isn`t ready yet.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Thu 5 Feb 20:32
Mehmet is prone to making errors. I don’t think we should be overlooking them just because he has had a few good games. We need that consistency from every player, every game.
If he hadn’t lost the first goal and left us chasing the game then the outcome might have been different. It’s debatable but you need confidence in your goalie.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 5 Feb 21:51
Best of luck to Munn. I’m not surprised he’s been recalled because he was our 3rd keeper. Better all round he goes back.
Still can’t believe folk think Mehmet is good enough. Guys been dropped by everyone that could drop him. He cut the angle well against Bowie but Bowie made it easy for him. Everything else was straight at him. Including the free kick on Saturday. The Rovers free kick. The multiple corners that he dropped etc etc etc. he’s a decent enough back up for a Scottish Championship club but to me that’s it.
COYP
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 5 Feb 21:53
Munn did alright in the opening games and a good shot stopper but his howler at St Johnstone at the back post was his undoing.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 5 Feb 21:56
Quote:
NMCmassive, Thu 5 Feb 21:51
Best of luck to Munn. I’m not surprised he’s been recalled because he was our 3rd keeper. Better all round he goes back.
Still can’t believe folk think Mehmet is good enough. Guys been dropped by everyone that could drop him. He cut the angle well against Bowie but Bowie made it easy for him. Everything else was straight at him. Including the free kick on Saturday. The Rovers free kick. The multiple corners that he dropped etc etc etc. he’s a decent enough back up for a Scottish Championship club but to me that’s it.
Mehmet has undoubtedly improved this season.
Better commanding his box and quick distribution.
He hasn’t don’t much wrong aside from last week and perhaps the QOS game where he looked poor.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 5 Feb 22:09
Id imagine Deniz will be one of our higher earners , along with 2 or 3 of the other highest earners leaving, value for money id let him leave .
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 5 Feb 22:36
Confidence is all important in football and I felt that after that error on Saturday it looked like any Deniz had just drained away. I felt sorry for him.
I`d be surprised if Terrell didn`t start on Saturday.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 6 Feb 08:44
Seem to remember an English keeper letting the ball go through his legs at Hampden, didn`t stop him getting 60+ international caps!
All keepers make mistakes and since they are the last line of defence it is fatal, any outfield player can make as many as he wants.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Feb 09:01
Hammy made a mistake last Saturday which arguably was as costly as Mehmet`s but he`s hardly been criticised on here by comparison.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Fri 6 Feb 10:44
I think that Deniz anticipated a better effort on goal and was down before the ball trundled over him. At that distance a level of anticipation was needed to get across the goal. The shot was a duffer and made Deniz look bad, but it was for all intents and purposes unlucky.bhe has saved us on more occasions than not this season. Some you win some you lose
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Fri 6 Feb 12:08
Agree with Indiapar1.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 6 Feb 12:44
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 6 Feb 09:01
Hammy made a mistake last Saturday which arguably was as costly as Mehmet`s but he`s hardly been criticised on here by comparison.
Even less criticism of Zak Rudden, missing a very decent chance at 0-1.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 6 Feb 13:19
has signed for Forfar
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Fri 6 Feb 13:25
`I think that Deniz anticipated a better effort on goal and was down before the ball trundled over him`
So you are saying the shot beat him because it was terrible? Ok then...
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Topic Originator: parsfan1975
Date: Fri 6 Feb 13:50
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 6 Feb 13:19
has signed for Forfar
I didn’t think he would be able to play for another team this season after playing in the cup for Rangers and then us
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 6 Feb 14:19
Quote:
parsfan1975, Fri 6 Feb 13:50
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 6 Feb 13:19
has signed for Forfar
I didn’t think he would be able to play for another team this season after playing in the cup for Rangers and then us
Cup was last season
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Feb 14:39
It looks like Forfar didn`t have a keeper on the bench last week so he probably has a good chance of getting a game.
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Topic Originator: parsfan1975
Date: Fri 6 Feb 14:40
Quote:
shellypar, Fri 6 Feb 14:19
Quote:
parsfan1975, Fri 6 Feb 13:50
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 6 Feb 13:19
has signed for Forfar
I didn’t think he would be able to play for another team this season after playing in the cup for Rangers and then us
Cup was last season
Thanks Shellypar
For some reason I thought it was this season, how wrong was I
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Fri 6 Feb 14:58
Quote:
parsfan1975, Fri 6 Feb 14:40
Quote:
shellypar, Fri 6 Feb 14:19
Quote:
parsfan1975, Fri 6 Feb 13:50
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 6 Feb 13:19
has signed for Forfar
I didn’t think he would be able to play for another team this season after playing in the cup for Rangers and then us
Cup was last season
Thanks Shellypar
For some reason I thought it was this season, how wrong was I
No problem neebur
COYP
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 6 Feb 16:21
Mehmet has been in and bombed out after playing well (maybe even a clean sheet?) already this season so expect a change tomorrow.
Watched it back for the first time earlier. Odd how he isn`t going down for that on one knee as opposed to actually diving when you see how weakly it was hit. Better getting body behind it like baseball catcher incase it kicks up like a spinner in cricket.
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Post Edited (Fri 06 Feb 16:22)
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Fri 6 Feb 16:42
I think he was expecting a cross. I was too from the initial set up. He was caught out, misread the flight of the ball and never adjusted his position in time.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Fri 6 Feb 17:36
Quote:
TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Fri 6 Feb 16:21
Mehmet has been in and bombed out after playing well (maybe even a clean sheet?) already this season so expect a change tomorrow.
It was a clean sheet, the Ayr United game on Halloween.
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 6 Feb 20:28
I agree that Hammy and Rudden both should have done better last weekend but perhaps since it’s a thread about a goalkeeper, goalkeeping is going to be the topic of conversation.
Plus I think Hammy or Rudden would have saved the free kick. Even if they weren’t allowed to use their hands.
Actually Mehmet would have saved it if he had just stood still.
I also don’t think that’s the first time I’ve said that about a Mehmet mistake.
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Feb 21:04
Is this a new rule that we`re not supposed to draw comparisons between players who play in different positions?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Fri 6 Feb 21:20
It was fairly obvious he would be recalled. Best move for him and us. He can go out to another club and get more game time
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Fri 06 Feb 21:37)
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 6 Feb 22:57
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 6 Feb 21:04
Is this a new rule that we`re not supposed to draw comparisons between players who play in different positions?
Compare who you want, up to you.
Who do you think is the better keeper? Gigi Buffon or Pirlo?
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Feb 23:19
I think they`re both well past their best.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 6 Feb 23:29
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 6 Feb 21:04
Is this a new rule that we`re not supposed to draw comparisons between players who play in different positions?
He is over paid for his ability ,in my opinion
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 6 Feb 23:35
Quote:
wee eck, Fri 6 Feb 23:19
I think they`re both well past their best.
That’s no what I asked tho 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 6 Feb 23:55
It`s such a daft question it merited a daft answer.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 7 Feb 08:42
Both Mehmet and Hamilton are not what we need if we want to be more than midtable also rams in this league.
Mehmet get la highlighted as he’s a keeper so mistakes lead to goals but Hamilton needs to have a good game to look capable and people mistake poor positioning, a lack of pace, poor on the ball and miss timed challenges for good play just because he gets “stuck in”. Gilmour raised the bar for us this season about what a decent midfielder looks like.
Not a problem we’ll have next season, I’m sure both will be at new clubs.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 7 Feb 09:01
Munn clearly wasn’t good enough, hence why he wasn’t even making the bench for us, which is further supported by who he has now signed for. Mehmet and Terrell are probably at a similar level, decent shot stoppers, but both have a howler in them. Taking age and wages into consideration, I think we’ll only keep one of them for next season.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 7 Feb 09:09
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Sat 7 Feb 09:01
Munn clearly wasn’t good enough, hence why he wasn’t even making the bench for us, which is further supported by who he has now signed for. Mehmet and Terrell are probably at a similar level, decent shot stoppers, but both have a howler in them. Taking age and wages into consideration, I think we’ll only keep one of them for next season.
Even the very best goalkeepers are prone to the occasional "howler." Much can depend on how good the players in front of him are. They can sometimes bale him out and at other times make him look bad even by doing something apparently trivial. e.g. passing to his weaker foot aan inside the goal posts.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 7 Feb 09:18
I suspect NL will go with Mehmet again today - getting back on a bike after you’ve fallen off can apply with goalkeepers.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 7 Feb 09:31
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 7 Feb 08:42
Both Mehmet and Hamilton are not what we need if we want to be more than midtable also rams in this league.
Mehmet get la highlighted as he’s a keeper so mistakes lead to goals but Hamilton needs to have a good game to look capable and people mistake poor positioning, a lack of pace, poor on the ball and miss timed challenges for good play just because he gets “stuck in”. Gilmour raised the bar for us this season about what a decent midfielder looks like.
Not a problem we’ll have next season, I’m sure both will be at new clubs.
Spot on Berkey
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 7 Feb 10:02
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sat 7 Feb 09:18
I suspect NL will go with Mehmet again today - getting back on a bike after you’ve fallen off can apply with goalkeepers.
The worry with Mehmet is that kind of mistake can snowball his confidence in the wrong direction. Hopefully Lennon has changed that part about his game and he doesn’t feel too bad about it. Folk claiming he should have saved 2nd are just trying to cover the fact Kearney got schooled by McGratten.
On Munn - looked alright at first, but slowly started making errors then the shocker at St Johnstone pretty much ended it for him.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 7 Feb 11:53
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sat 7 Feb 09:31
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 7 Feb 08:42
Both Mehmet and Hamilton are not what we need if we want to be more than midtable also rams in this league.
Mehmet get la highlighted as he’s a keeper so mistakes lead to goals but Hamilton needs to have a good game to look capable and people mistake poor positioning, a lack of pace, poor on the ball and miss timed challenges for good play just because he gets “stuck in”. Gilmour raised the bar for us this season about what a decent midfielder looks like.
Not a problem we’ll have next season, I’m sure both will be at new clubs.
Spot on Berkey
So guys, both Mehmet and Hamilton started in probably our toughest, yet most successful games, against Raith, Hibs and St. Johnstone.
Are we saying we won these games, in spite of Mehmet and Hamilton ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:05
I think people are saying that while these players are capable of a good performance, they are not consistently good enough to take us to the next level.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:23
Very good point Raymie. Them and Matty have fought their way back into the team and had good seasons.
I was very surprised when Hammy wasn`t in the starting 11 against Hibs but the team were very calm, collected and solid without him. I thought the manager got his tactics spot on that day and wondered whether he felt that Hammy`s all action, sometimes excitable approach wasn`t a good fit for the game.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:38
It`s Gilmour + 1 in all honesty. Whilst he has been really impressive aside from the silly bookings, nobody has really cemented themselves as being a natural partner in midfield.
Hamilton has been as hit and miss as Amade, Boothe and the rest.
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Topic Originator: dafc111
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:51
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 7 Feb 11:53
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sat 7 Feb 09:31
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 7 Feb 08:42
Both Mehmet and Hamilton are not what we need if we want to be more than midtable also rams in this league.
Mehmet get la highlighted as he’s a keeper so mistakes lead to goals but Hamilton needs to have a good game to look capable and people mistake poor positioning, a lack of pace, poor on the ball and miss timed challenges for good play just because he gets “stuck in”. Gilmour raised the bar for us this season about what a decent midfielder looks like.
Not a problem we’ll have next season, I’m sure both will be at new clubs.
Spot on Berkey
So guys, both Mehmet and Hamilton started in probably our toughest, yet most successful games, against Raith, Hibs and St. Johnstone.
Are we saying we won these games, in spite of Mehmet and Hamilton ?
Of those 3 games, Hamilton only started one against Raith and was lucky not to be sent off. Had TOB not picked up an injury against Saints I`m sure he would have started last week. You know what your`e getting with Hamilton, he`ll get stuck in and wins his fair share in the air for a smaller guy but his all round game isn`t good enough to take us forward.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:51
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 7 Feb 11:53
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sat 7 Feb 09:31
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 7 Feb 08:42
Both Mehmet and Hamilton are not what we need if we want to be more than midtable also rams in this league.
Mehmet get la highlighted as he’s a keeper so mistakes lead to goals but Hamilton needs to have a good game to look capable and people mistake poor positioning, a lack of pace, poor on the ball and miss timed challenges for good play just because he gets “stuck in”. Gilmour raised the bar for us this season about what a decent midfielder looks like.
Not a problem we’ll have next season, I’m sure both will be at new clubs.
Spot on Berkey
So guys, both Mehmet and Hamilton started in probably our toughest, yet most successful games, against Raith, Hibs and St. Johnstone.
Are we saying we won these games, in spite of Mehmet and Hamilton ?
Both also started in our worst game under Lennon making pivotal mistakes. Just for balance.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sat 7 Feb 12:56
Delete - someone already replied
Post Edited (Sat 07 Feb 12:57)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 7 Feb 13:58
For a centre midfielder Hamiltons ability to pass a ball to a team mate is terrible. He’s in the team for his work rate and aggression without the ball, thats about it. And it normally leads to cards.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 7 Feb 14:24
Normally leads to cards, but he`s also a good one to bring on to dig deep.
He`s certainly had his uses with us, in particular during our terrible injury crisis under McPake. He`s a good captain as well
He has his limitations though.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 7 Feb 19:26
Hammy has his limitations but so do all players. I think Hammy has his place in the squad although I’m unsure how he’d get on in the premier league. Everyone knows hammy has a tendency to get booked and will get sent off every so often.
I don’t see where Deniz Mehmet fits in past this season. He was given a 3 year deal and a wage rise by McPake and to me he’s only good enough to sit on the bench. I’ve got more confidence in Terrell than Mehmet. I’m also certain Terrell has a howler in him but he’s young, learning and looks promising. Mehmet is full of howlers, is weak mentally, poor under crosses, nervous about coming off his line and drops clangers more regularly than he should. I only see him as being a back up keeper in the championship.
Best of luck to Munn.
COYP
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