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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 31 Oct 15:22
Surely her tea`s oot now! Not only is she in trouble over the security of e-mails, she has apparently breached the ministerial code over cancelling hotel bookings for asylum seekers.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 31 Oct 15:40
And turns out the email security breaches weren’t a one of either
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 31 Oct 17:04
Only six of them! So far….
Making statement in 10 mins. Resignation surely?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 31 Oct 17:05
The Tory Circus is back in Town
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 31 Oct 19:27
Another Horrid Person who is well out her depth :-
Home Secretary Suella Braverman has challenged critics to try to "get rid of me", as she denied ignoring legal advice on housing asylum seekers.
She rejected claims she blocked the use of hotels to ease overcrowding pressure at a migrant processing centre.
She said her policies were designed to repel an "invasion" on the south coast.
But Labour said Ms Braverman was not fit for office and undermined Rishi Sunak`s claim he was bringing integrity back to government.
Labour`s shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper said decision-making at the Home Office had "collapsed" on Ms Braverman`s watch and asked how "anyone is supposed to have confidence" in her.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 31 Oct 19:44
One of her own MPs shook his head when she said she did not block the use of hotels.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 31 Oct 19:50
Hopefully something close to "I`m a fighter not a quiter"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 31 Oct 20:09
If I sent confidential emails from my work account to a Gmail account and then forwarded them on to the wrong person, and then didn`t take an attempt to rectify the issue seriously, or tried to cover it up, I`d get my jotters. Quite rightly too.
For her to be in that job and do this beggars belief. She is not fit for the job and needs to be sacked immediately, there`s no excuse
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 1 Nov 08:34
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 31 Oct 20:09
If I sent confidential emails from my work account to a Gmail account and then forwarded them on to the wrong person, and then didn`t take an attempt to rectify the issue seriously, or tried to cover it up, I`d get my jotters. Quite rightly too.
For her to be in that job and do this beggars belief. She is not fit for the job and needs to be sacked immediately, there`s no excuse
For her to get her job back less than a week after her repeated breaches doesn`t just beggar belief - it`s absolutely incredible!
And the man who gave Cruella her job back is the PM! 😨
You couldn`t make it up....
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Tue 01 Nov 08:34)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 3 Nov 08:41
From Aunty :-
The Home Secretary Suella Braverman is eyeing up three more countries - Paraguay, Peru and Belize - where migrants could be sent.
The paper says a source has revealed that another African country - on top of Rwanda - is "also in the mix".
A government spokesperson said ministers were "committed to working with a range of international partners" to tackle the global migration crisis.
Or we could just abandon them at the railway station and bus stop
Post Edited (Thu 03 Nov 09:32)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 3 Nov 09:44
We’ve got thousands of Ukrainian refugees stuck on old cruise ships. Spaces smaller than legal requirement for prisoners.
Incompetence doesn’t just exist over the border.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 3 Nov 09:51
I did notice that yesterday when John Swinney was announcing the spending cuts from Holyrood (some might call it an austerity program) that part of the reason was to help pay for the Ukrainian refugees that we`ve taken in. Now imagine that was a Tory minister in Westminster saying that austerity measures were being taken to help pay for a refugee crisis. You`d be hearing all about scape goats and dog whistles.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 3 Nov 19:14
From Aunty :-
Making Priti look like the Fairy Godmother
The Home Secretary Suella Braverman is facing a potentially major court battle over the safety of women and children at the Manston centre in Kent.
Details of the first legal case were released by lawyers as she toured the overrun facility on Thursday.
The action, which is at its earliest stages, alleges ministers left a woman in "egregiously defective conditions".
If the home secretary does not address the allegations, judges will be asked to hear the case in full.
The Home Office said it would respond to the claim but would not comment publicly on legally proceedings.
The legal action against Ms Braverman, also involving the charity Detention Action, alleges there is evidence of:
* Routine and prolonged unlawful detention in the facility
* A failure to implement "essential safeguarding measures" for children
* Adult men sleeping alongside women and children they are not related to
* Migrants exposed to infectious diseases amid poor sanitation
* No means for the detainees to get legal advice about why they are being held
Detention Action said its case was focused on ending "serious threats" to the safety of children.
"We have taken this action out of serious concern for the welfare of thousands of people, including children, still being detained at Manston for periods far beyond legal limits," said Jamie Wilson, deputy director of the charity.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 3 Nov 20:21
Leaving a group of asylum seekers, from Marston on their own in London “by mistake” last night won’t help her one bit either. It was only due to the actions of a local charity passerby that the group, who were extremely distressed, were taken to a nearby shelter.
Such a disgraceful way to treat fellow human beings.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 4 Nov 08:39
Flies 20miles from Dover to Marston in a Chinook helicopter?🤔😲💩
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 4 Nov 09:02
They`re taking the P big style. When you think back to the scandals of the 90s and early 00s they are so insignificant.
We`re about to see one of the dodgiest MPs in history go on a reality TV show to make himself appear more human FFS.
How do people still vote Tory?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Fri 4 Nov 10:26
But the helicopter visibly supports the narrative that she`s defending us from invaders
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 4 Nov 11:34
£3,500 for the "trip" apparently!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 4 Nov 19:28
She Has got to Go Now :-
We`ve already said "goodbye"
Since you gotta go, oh you`d better
Go now, go now, go now
Before you see me cry
Council bosses have said they were not consulted or notified by the Home Office about the arrival of 55 migrants to a hotel at a seaside resort.
North Devon Council said the hotel in Ilfracombe was an "unsuitable location" for them due to its remoteness.
North Devon MP Selaine Saxby asked the Home Office directly for an "urgent and detailed consultation" with the council.
The Home Office said the use of hotels was a "short-term solution".
Councillor David Worden, leader of the council, said he was told in October by the government that the hotel would not be used to house migrants.
He said: "We were not consulted or formally notified about this change in direction from the Home Office, nor do we have a full understanding at this stage of their intentions for the hotel`s future use."
Just leave them at the Station :-(
Post Edited (Fri 04 Nov 19:30)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 5 Nov 07:39
Even the soppy BBC are reporting that the largest group of migrants are young men from perfectly peaceful but poor Albania. Their understandable desire to escape poverty is being exploited in some cases by drug trafficking gangsters who offer to pay the “fare” to England if they agree to work for them.
Albania has applied to join the EU, and that could eventually improve living standards and employment prospects to make the risky escape route unnecessary.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 5 Nov 07:58
In an independent Scotland we`d perhaps send ships down to the northern French Coast and bring the refugees and economic migrants straight up here.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 5 Nov 10:17
....who would promptly head for the border!
Even though it would a hard border as dictated by the EU there would be plenty of gaps to sneak over...
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 5 Nov 12:41
Quote:
Parboiled, Sat 5 Nov 10:17
....who would promptly head for the border!
Even though it would a hard border as dictated by the EU there would be plenty of gaps to sneak over...
I wouldn`t imagine they would want to head to poor, little england when they could settle in the richer, friendlier, fairer country, that an independent Scotland would be.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 8 Nov 14:01
Norway and Sweden have a "hard border" yet when I went travelling around there my passport was only checked when I went from EU Sweden to EU Denmark on the train, because Denmark was concerned about migration from Sweden. Norway is also Schengen by the way, despite not being in the EU - i.e. perfectly free movement into and out of the EU.
That`s because right wing xenophobes are a much bigger threat to free movement within Europe than the EU, that can`t be up for debate surely?
Post Edited (Tue 08 Nov 14:12)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 8 Nov 14:40
I wonder how Michael Portillo gets on, he spends half his life on trains
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 8 Nov 21:09
I can always tell when you know you messed up because you make a flippant remark about something completely unrelated to the point.
What evidence is there that the EU would impose a hard border?
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 11 Nov 09:45
You`re opinions mince, away and sook on Braverman`s toes
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 11 Nov 11:36
Sturgeon has already conceded there would be a hard border. She has identified trunk roads for custom checks.
You could ask her in between licks of her fat bottom .
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 11 Nov 17:27
There 100% would be a hard border but I don`t understand why this is considered such a big deal. It takes seconds going through a border.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sat 12 Nov 10:49
It depends on the wider agreement you have in terms of trade and immigration rules. If Scotland rejoined the EU and England/rUK were significantly diverging from EU rules it might increase the need for physical checks of good crossing the borders along with the increased paper work checks. If there was full regulatory alignment under a single arbiter whether that was an EU court or a separate Trade Court then in theory it should be pretty much frictionless.
Should be easier for people but again comes down to what`s agreed.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 12 Nov 12:12
The EU planned to block covid vaccines manufactured in the EU being imported to the UK via the Irish border. Just an example of how they rule the roost
They never informed any of the politicians on either side. The Irish PM went ballistic , and they backed down.
I do like Michael Martin btw, always comes across as very reasonable and keen to find common ground. I think it would take a lot to make him lose his cool.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 12 Nov 12:48
Spain making waves about the 90 day rule, obviously affecting their economy, they want it abolished.
Of course the agreement would be reciprocal with Spaniards being allowed access to UK, would it happen in the same way as Eire residents have been allowed?
Little England will be rioting!
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 12 Nov 21:31
This is about all the retired Brits who want to overwinter over there for four/five months but are not residents.They keep Spanish resorts and hotel economy ticking over in the off season.
I don’t think many Spaniards want to oversummer over here never mind overwinter.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 13 Nov 00:32
Quote:
Parboiled, Sat 12 Nov 21:31
This is about all the retired Brits who want to overwinter over there for four/five months but are not residents.They keep Spanish resorts and hotel economy ticking over in the off season.
I don’t think many Spaniards want to oversummer over here never mind overwinter.
Yeah, cheaper staying in Benidorm than the UK, just on heating bills alone.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 13 Nov 12:51
I thought it was 6 months?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 13 Nov 15:02
i think its 6 months over a year, but you can`t do that in one go... so i think you can have 90days max and then you must return for 90 days before you can do your next 90?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 13 Nov 15:39
90 in 180 days, have to do a shuttle, no big deal for holidays.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 13 Nov 16:39
Fail to see how that would be a massive issue for many people. Either they live there permanently (or near enough) or go for a couple of months over winter.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 13 Nov 17:17
Yeah it`s the UK students that are missing out on a foreign education experience, I believe Braverman was one such student?🤔😲🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 13 Nov 20:22
And it`s nice to know that 321 MP`s have freedom of movement due to acquiring EU passports!
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 15 Nov 15:53
Aye it`s 90 days within a 180 day period for UK citizens entering the EU at the moment. So you can be in Schengen for 180 days out of a calendar year in two separate 90 day stints.
Strangely, last time I came into Edinburgh (and also to Bristol) the British passport didn`t work with the electronic gates but the Swedish one did. Had that problem a good few times with the new Blue passport actually. I suppose though, it is made in France... 😂
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 15 Nov 18:51
My old maroon one worked in the Tenerife scanner and the Edinburgh one no problems, for a change.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 15 Nov 21:33
See I just thought it was funny that the Swedish one let me in without any stamp or whatever. Left on the British one as well, so I might be squatting in the UK as an illegal Swedish immigrant somewhere on the UK Home Office databases. Oh well...
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 25 Jan 19:08
She wasn`t in Parliament yesterday to answer questions about the missing children.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 25 Jan 19:26
Saw her today at PM`s questions and she made herself as small looking as possible .. trying to hide .. not fit for the job unfortunately .. like many in this present shambles of a Government
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 26 Jan 13:49
`The home secretary, Suella Braverman, has confirmed the government is dropping several of the key commitments made in the wake of the Windrush scandal.
In a written statement in the House of Commons, Braverman said she would not be creating the post of a migrants’ commissioner, who was due to be responsible for speaking up for migrants and for identifying systemic problems within the UK immigration system. Other promises, including increasing the powers of the independent chief inspector of borders and immigration (ICIBI) and holding reconciliation events with the Windrush community, have also been abandoned.`
It must be so reassuring for the families of immigrants from the Caribbean to know their interests are being looked after by a another member of an immigration family.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 26 Jan 15:30
She is Unfit for purpose and should be sacked
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 3 Apr 11:02
Claiming £25K in expenses on a home she wasn`t living in?
So much for the benefits culture!🤔😲😡
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 3 Apr 13:40
She is the fourth most popular Cabinet Minister with Tory party members according to a survey carried out in March by the ConservativeHome website. The top ten were Wallace, Badenoch, Cleverly, Braverman, Mordaunt, Sunak, Barclay. Tugendhat, Mercer and Jack (!). Douglas Ross is not in the Cabinet but his popularity was on a par with Jack`s. The membership is obviously pleased at the way they are keeping the Jocks in their place!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 3 Apr 22:19
She`s got a battle on Wednesday with the boundary changes, can`t remember who her rival is!
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 6 Apr 11:13
The Japs were terrified of the Gurkhas in WW2, they would slice heads off with one swish of their fearsome kukris!
Get Joanna Lumley on the case, her dad served with them and she’s been their champion for years
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 12 Apr 20:01
Tory peer Baroness Warsi has warned that what she describes as Suella Braverman`s "racist rhetoric" is putting British Asian families at risk.
The peer, the UK`s first South Asian cabinet minister, claimed the home secretary`s comments on small boats and grooming gangs "emboldened racists".
She told the BBC she feared a backlash against British Asians and had told her dad not to walk home from the mosque.
Ms Braverman`s spokesperson said she would "not shy away from hard truths".
Ahead of announcing plans for a new police taskforce to tackle grooming gangs,
Ms Braverman said groups of "vulnerable white English girls" were being "pursued and raped and drugged and harmed by gangs of British Pakistani men who`ve worked in child abuse networks".
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 13 Apr 17:20
B W going for it :-
Suella Braverman is "unfit" to be home secretary, according to Conservative peer Baroness Warsi.
The peer, the UK`s first South Asian cabinet minister, claimed the home secretary turns "almost every issue into a cultural race war".
"if it`s deliberate she`s unfit for office and if it`s because she can`t communicate she`s still unfit for office," Baroness Warsi said.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 13 Apr 18:46
Suella Braverman does use some fairly incendiary language. Straight out of the Nazi handbook. I don`t think she really believes what she is saying, she is simply pandering to her bosses who know that the party faithful will be whipping themselves into a frenzy about this. While I don`t like the way she talks about people seeking asylum, she might have a point here about the ethnicity of paedophile gangs, but you`re not really allowed to point that out
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 13 Apr 19:25
Funny, the paedophile I was thinking of was white and wore a crown!🤔😲🫅
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Thu 13 Apr 22:37
Quote:
red-star-par, Thu 13 Apr 18:46
Suella Braverman does use some fairly incendiary language. Straight out of the Nazi handbook. I don`t think she really believes what she is saying, she is simply pandering to her bosses who know that the party faithful will be whipping themselves into a frenzy about this. While I don`t like the way she talks about people seeking asylum, she might have a point here about the ethnicity of paedophile gangs, but you`re not really allowed to point that out
There is no statistically significant ethnic bias in the makeup of paedophiles. If anything, white males like Jimmy Saville, Jeffrey Epstein and Andrew Windsor are the ones we should be keeping more of an eye on. But you`re not allowed to say that.
There is, however, a significant socio-economic bias with the victims of the abuse, who are nearly all from extremely impoverished backgrounds, they also tend to commit petty crime and/or have behavioural difficulties which means that they are not believed if they report the abuse to the authorities.
This targeting of already traumatised children is how so many paedophiles have got away with it for years, often decades. It`s not because the police are scared of arresting non-white people.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 14 Apr 10:50
Yeah, but don`t let facts get in the way of a good rant, Wotsit!
What happened in Rotherham was a disgrace, and lessons need to be learned from it, but the lesson isn`t "consider all Muslims" predators in the same was all Christians aren`t considered predators on the basis of historic child abuse convictions involving senior Christian figures.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 14 Apr 11:07
Indeed, hundreds and hundreds of vulnerable young white girls abused for years and years and dozens of non white males jailed. Eventually. But don’t talk about it..
Oh, and LA- your wee crown wearing emoji is a dead ringer of our unlamented last FM . Was something going on in that motor home?
Post Edited (Fri 14 Apr 11:13)
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 14 Apr 11:12
Quote:
jake89, Fri 14 Apr 10:50
Yeah, but don`t let facts get in the way of a good rant, Wotsit!
What happened in Rotherham was a disgrace, and lessons need to be learned from it, but the lesson isn`t "consider all Muslims" predators in the same was all Christians aren`t considered predators on the basis of historic child abuse convictions involving senior Christian figures.
There actually is an ethnic element to grooming gangs. 84% are of Pakistani origin.
The overall percentage of paedophiles in the UK is white males though with 95% being from this demographic.
It`s nothing to do with religion though or it would be across all Muslims regardless of ethnic origin.
I have no idea what the answer to the issue is but to deny what`s going on certainly won`t help us solve the grooming gang problem.
Post Edited (Fri 14 Apr 11:21)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 14 Apr 11:25
Just to add, Baroness Warsi plays the race card constantly and deflects constantly. A professional Muslim as some wag once called her.
If the ethnicity of the Rotherham perps/victims had been the reverse she would have been shrieking her stupid head off..
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Apr 06:57
Was the common theme in Rotherham that they all knew each other rather than they were all of Pakistani descent?
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 15 Apr 08:56
Even Perry Mason wouldn’t try that line…
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 15 Apr 09:43
What faith are you parboiled? Or are you an atheist?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 5 Jun 17:09
The boats/hulks being used to accommodate the immigrants are seemingly to cost £75,900 a night or £27,703,500 a year, wonder which Tory is making money out of that deal?🤔😲😡😡😡
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 5 Jun 22:06
Quote:
jake89, Sat 15 Apr 09:43
What faith are you parboiled? Or are you an atheist?
A staunch believer in the sucking of Sunak or Starmer toes probably
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 6 Jun 21:27
Quote:
Parboiled, Fri 14 Apr 11:25
If the ethnicity of the Rotherham perps/victims had been the reverse she would have been shrieking her stupid head off..
Such as almost every other paedophile gang ever?
Paediphilia is probably a crime perpetrated in the main by a particular ethnic group and it`s fairly telling that certain people always bring up Rotherham, but not, say, Jimmy Saville, when discussing it.
It`s also definitely worth mentioning that the independent report had more to say about the socio-economic background of the victims being an issue in the failure of the police to properly investigate than did the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 9 Aug 17:32
Apparently Suella is pushing Viscount Jack into putting 2 accommodation barges on the Clyde.
This is going to be fun!🤔😲🤬🤬🤬
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 12 Aug 18:31
Why Oh Why is she still employed ??
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 13 Aug 00:47
She is the caring face of Conservatism - compared to Lee Anderson.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 14 Aug 14:08
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 12 Aug 18:31
Why Oh Why is she still employed ??
Depending on the legionella reports it may be quite soon!
Awe wait a minute, there will be another enquiry, results in 2 year time!
Post Edited (Mon 14 Aug 14:08)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 15 Aug 14:03
Suella seems to be away on holiday, so not doing any interviews.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 15 Aug 14:09
Unlike Halfwit Humza at least she doesn’t bleat about her skin whenever she is getting stick..
“There have been too many people who have been racist to me throughout my life. Every interaction I have I am conscious of my colour. I can be FM but there are always people look at me first as a person of colour and form a judgement. I can’t not be conscious of my colour because everybody else is conscious of my colour”
No mate, maybe they see an eejit who got annoyed over a photo of him falling off his scooter
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 15 Aug 15:16
How odd to bring up the subject of Humza Yousaf`s skin in a thread about Suella Braverman.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 15 Aug 15:35
Sometimes discrimination isn`t as subtle as people think.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 15 Aug 17:12
Quote:
jake89, Tue 15 Aug 15:35
Sometimes discrimination isn`t as subtle as people think.
Parsboiled is a flat out racist, there is no disguising it. He probably loves Lee Anderson, the tories come out with statements like that to appeal to loathsome individuals like him
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 15 Aug 19:01
I was directly quoting Humza..you know the guy who had a White, White, White rant at fellow MSP’s. The biggest racist of all...
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 15 Aug 19:24
Quote:
Parboiled, Tue 15 Aug 19:01
I was directly quoting Humza..you know the guy who had a White, White, White rant at fellow MSP’s. The biggest racist of all...
This one buddy ?
https://youtu.be/FI3JBBlmej4
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 15 Aug 19:49
Quote:
Parboiled, Tue 15 Aug 14:09
Unlike Halfwit Humza at least she doesn’t bleat about her skin whenever she is getting stick..
“There have been too many people who have been racist to me throughout my life. Every interaction I have I am conscious of my colour. I can be FM but there are always people look at me first as a person of colour and form a judgement. I can’t not be conscious of my colour because everybody else is conscious of my colour”
No mate, maybe they see an eejit who got annoyed over a photo of him falling off his scooter
Nice Strawman and deflection there m8
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 15 Aug 19:52
Quite honestly, the most racist behaviour I`ve ever witnessed was from Mainland Chinese toward non-whites and the same from Gulf Arabs toward anyone who was non-white.
Braverman was quite obviously planted in her role to promote Xenophobic policies but avoid the racism card tarnishing the Tory party. Hard to describe the Tories as racists, but they are certainly Imperialists and Xenophobes. Just hilarious that they`re too daft to realise that it`s Britain`s Imperial history that has caused many of the issues they`re facing now. Either that or they`re just ignoring the fact which wouldn`t be surprising.
Parboiled`s comments though are just another classic deflection and show him to be a sad wee Scotophobe. But naw, anyone who even dares to support Scottish sovereignty is an Anglophobe, despite the country being older than many including England! 😂 Probably old enough to be a fan of Oz Mosely! Where`s the 88 tattoo?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 15 Aug 20:06
Parboiled and Tenruh are `buddies` again I see.
The Yousaf quote was actually his response to a heckle at the Edinburgh Fringe from someone from the Scottish Family Party who, amongst other things, said he was a `pestilence on the land`. I must admit I hadn`t heard of the SFP but they seem to be another right wing party.
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 15 Aug 20:23
Eck - The Family Party are the Christian zoomers: Think evangelicals crossed with the Taliban and you wouldn`t be far off their politics!
Sounds like the incident you described was another "Ma magic ershole in the sky is better than yours!" type deal.
Post Edited (Tue 15 Aug 20:26)
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 15 Aug 20:41
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 15 Aug 20:06
Parboiled and Tenruh are `buddies` again I see.
The Yousaf quote was actually his response to a heckle at the Edinburgh Fringe from someone from the Scottish Family Party who, amongst other things, said he was a `pestilence on the land`. I must admit I hadn`t heard of the SFP but they seem to be another right wing party.
Tolerance for my fellow Pars supporter Eck.
The only thing we have in common is our dislike of the nuSNP but for different reasons.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 15 Aug 20:56
With friends like that......
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 15 Aug 22:28
I actually love Humza. The Union is safe as long as that plonker is FM.
And I much enjoyed HJ’s hilarious accusation of deflection whilst bringing Chinese and Gulf Arabs into the debate..if I was an Eskimo I would be fair affronted at not being mentioned!
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 15 Aug 23:09
Frankly Parboiled, I think the only person anyone finds hilarious on here is you. Your attention-seeking fishing posts reek of somebody desperate for attention and your general demeanour makes me wonder about Aspergers. Anyone on here could likely count the times you`ve made a valid or relevant political point. If you`re genuinely happy in your wee GB News bubble reality, then I`ll have what you`re having!
I will give you though that Humza won`t last. So there`s one!
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 16 Aug 08:44
Halfwit now saying he will “p*** off some people” when he sets out a vision of his premiership next month.
Coarse language, delusions of grandeur, a very thin skin..braw, keep up the good work!
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 17 Aug 07:08
I’m confused Tenruh, you post doesn’t look right.
Is that you answering Jake (calling him buddy) for the link Jake posted
Or answering Tenruh, which seems more logical, if it were parboiled doing it?
I’m sure I’m wrong, but my initial reaction was that it looked more like you’d answered yourself, albeit but with the wrong login?
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Thu 17 Aug 07:15
Quote:
DBP, Thu 17 Aug 07:08
I’m confused Tenruh, you post doesn’t look right.
Is that you answering Jake (calling him buddy) for the link Jake posted
Or answering Tenruh, which seems more logical, if it were parboiled doing it?
I’m sure I’m wrong, but my initial reaction was that it looked more like you’d answered yourself, albeit but with the wrong login?
Certainly looks very suspicious.
Has Parboiled/Tenruh exposed themselves as being one and the same. Would certainly explain why someone who claims to be pro indy seems to try and undermine it.
Good Spot.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 17 Aug 09:00
Excuse me, I’m rather fussy who I expose myself with..
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 17 Aug 09:35
Quote:
DBP, Thu 17 Aug 07:08
I’m confused Tenruh, you post doesn’t look right.
Is that you answering Jake (calling him buddy) for the link Jake posted
Or answering Tenruh, which seems more logical, if it were parboiled doing it?
I’m sure I’m wrong, but my initial reaction was that it looked more like you’d answered yourself, albeit but with the wrong login?
Answering Jake
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 17 Aug 09:37
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 17 Aug 09:00
Excuse me, I’m rather fussy who I expose myself with..
Exactly, it only takes one to have multiple user names then everyone follows .
Hope you`re keeping well Bud...
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 17 Aug 10:27
Quote:
Tenruh, Thu 17 Aug 09:37
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 17 Aug 09:00
Excuse me, I’m rather fussy who I expose myself with..
Exactly, it only takes one to have multiple user names then everyone follows .
Hope you`re keeping well Bud...
Oooh, Friend
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 17 Aug 10:32
Strictly platonic, no benefits..!
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 17 Aug 10:52
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 17 Aug 10:32
Strictly platonic, no benefits..!
Exactly. Some people cannot hide their jealousy.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Mon 28 Aug 18:40
A Confident Suella .. Oh Jings
Government plans to accommodate asylum seekers on a barge on England`s south coast face a possible legal challenge over fire safety.
Lawyers for the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) have written to Home Secretary Suella Braverman raising issues including overcrowding and fire exit access on board the Bibby Stockholm.
The government has been given until Thursday to respond.
Home Secretary Suella Braverman said: "I am confident the barge is safe."
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 28 Aug 22:35
Isn`t it weird they keep pushing forward plans they know won`t work? It`s almost as if they want to distract people by stoking up even more ill-feeling.
It`s just so odd that we hear all about how people in council houses should be happy with their damp infested homes and these illegal immigrants should take what they`re given, but nothing`s mentioned about second home allowances, expenses and the cost of maintaining a dilapidated parliament rather than moving to a cheaper modern building.
Surely MPs could work off a barge on the Thames?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 28 Aug 22:42
Quote:
Buspasspar, Mon 28 Aug 18:40
A Confident Suella .. Oh Jings
Government plans to accommodate asylum seekers on a barge on England`s south coast face a possible legal challenge over fire safety.
Lawyers for the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) have written to Home Secretary Suella Braverman raising issues including overcrowding and fire exit access on board the Bibby Stockholm.
The government has been given until Thursday to respond.
Home Secretary Suella Braverman said: "I am confident the barge is safe."
Her insinuations regarding political bias are astounding!🚒🤬
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Tue 29 Aug 13:06
My pal in the Polis was saying that she was grilled the other day and couldn`t comprehend that Police in England and Wales had lost 20,000 officers since 2010 but had only managed to recruit 23,000 since then so there is only a 3,000 increase. Apparently she repeatedly bleated on about a "record number of police officers".
Certainly chosen as scapegoat rather than for her intellectual capacity!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 29 Aug 17:46
Also stated in her interview that the barges had been used to accommodate refugees in Scotland!
I believe it had been used to house oil rig workers, perhaps some North Sea workers can confirm?
Remember that the Government have doubled the capacity on the barges.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 29 Aug 18:05
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 29 Aug 17:46
Also stated in her interview that the barges had been used to accommodate refugees in Scotland!
I believe it had been used to house oil rig workers, perhaps some North Sea workers can confirm?
Remember that the Government have doubled the capacity on the barges.
Is the doubling why the barge has a T-shape but with a whiter roof?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 Sep 17:00
Is this not a result of a perception that a lot of people falsely claim asylum on the basis of discrimination? How do you evidence it?
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Tue 26 Sep 18:29
The UK has had an aging population for a great many years, which is leaving a lot of work available that those who were born here do not, on the whole, want to perform.
As a result of this people from other cultures are being attracted here by the availability of work.
As a result of this racists are getting annoyed.
As a result of this politicians are vying to win their votes, because riled-up people go out and vote.
This is all in the midst of climate chaos and the seemingly obligatory wars which are the main motivators for folk to up-sticks and move halfway across the world.
They got oon their bikes, just like Norman Tebbit advised. But, then, The Tories have never bothered with future consequences when there`s cheap electioneering to be done.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 Sep 21:33
The irony of it all is that people seem to think it`s all these non-Brits on the benefits. The largest benefits recipients are British white people. The lowest are Chinese, other white people and Indians. In a fair and equal society it would be pretty even across all ethnicities.
So maybe it`s that these people are stealing our jobs? Whilst I`m sure there are a small number of employers who discriminate and only employ immigrants, most jobs are advertised at a set wage and are open to anyone. Mowi at Rosyth is packed with people who do not have English as a first language. Why? Because those guys have no issue getting up, doing a shift and heading home stinking of fish.
This government doesn`t care though. It`s quite content to lump economic migrants and refugees with illegal immigrants. It suits them for the public to hate "Johnny Foreigner" as it distracts from their failures and means there`s something they can claim to tackle.
The approach of giving out contracts to hotels is a complete mess. Hundreds of staff sacked, events (including weddings) cancelled, luxury hotels being used. Of course some of this comes down to greedy hotel owners, but surely they could have focussed on struggling hotels and used these contracts as a way of keeping some going? Instead we`ve got relatively successful hotels like the Keavil being used.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 27 Sep 00:01
Currently out here in Tenerife , half the bars cannot operate 7 days a week due to lack of British workers.
Wonder if Brexit caused that?🤔
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 27 Sep 07:27
They could make them honesty bars..
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 27 Sep 08:17
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 21:33
The irony of it all is that people seem to think it`s all these non-Brits on the benefits. The largest benefits recipients are British white people. The lowest are Chinese, other white people and Indians. In a fair and equal society it would be pretty even across all ethnicities.
Just for clarity, Jake, are the stats you alluded to above set out as a %age of the population?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 27 Sep 09:34
If the largest benefits recipients are white Brits it might help them to get some weight off.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 27 Sep 11:04
Quote:
Parboiled, Wed 27 Sept 09:34
If the largest benefits recipients are white Brits it might help them to get some weight off.
Perhaps you could elaborate for those of us not quite sharp enough to understand the point you`re attempting to make.
My family emigrated to Scotland when I was a child, as did several uncles and aunts on both sides, along with a host of cousins. To the very best of my knowledge, not one of them has ever claimed a day`s benefit in their lives.
The vast majority of immigrants leave their home countries in search of a better life for themselves and their families, not to sponge of the state. On more than one occasion, I`ve taken umbrage at some of my fellow Italians who have expressed the opinion that Scots are lazy. Every country in the world has a mix of hardworking and not-so-hardworking people. Those who choose to emigrate generally contain a higher proportion of ambitious, hardworking folk.
In Italy, there are many unemployed university graduates who refuse to accept unskilled work because they consider it beneath them. Consequently, many men and women in their 30s and 40s are still living at home with their parents.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 Sep 12:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 27 Sept 08:17
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 21:33
The irony of it all is that people seem to think it`s all these non-Brits on the benefits. The largest benefits recipients are British white people. The lowest are Chinese, other white people and Indians. In a fair and equal society it would be pretty even across all ethnicities.
Just for clarity, Jake, are the stats you alluded to above set out as a %age of the population?
Yes. I don`t have them in front of me now but it`s something like 54% of white British people claim benefits compared to 25% of Chinese. Fairly sure non-British white and Indian were around 40% but don`t quote me on that.
Of course, it would need broken down into specific benefits as imagine this includes things all people are eligible like child payments and pensions.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 27 Sep 13:51
Quote:
jake89, Wed 27 Sept 12:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 27 Sept 08:17
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 21:33
The irony of it all is that people seem to think it`s all these non-Brits on the benefits. The largest benefits recipients are British white people. The lowest are Chinese, other white people and Indians. In a fair and equal society it would be pretty even across all ethnicities.
Just for clarity, Jake, are the stats you alluded to above set out as a %age of the population?
Yes. I don`t have them in front of me now but it`s something like 54% of white British people claim benefits compared to 25% of Chinese. Fairly sure non-British white and Indian were around 40% but don`t quote me on that.
Of course, it would need broken down into specific benefits as imagine this includes things all people are eligible like child payments and pensions.
I wonder how and why they have these stats broken down in terms of ethnicity? What does it matter what colour of skin you have if you`re in receipt of, e.g., child benefit?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 27 Sep 16:14
Lies .. Damn Lies .. and Statistics
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 Sep 17:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 27 Sept 13:51
Quote:
jake89, Wed 27 Sept 12:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 27 Sept 08:17
Quote:
jake89, Tue 26 Sept 21:33
The irony of it all is that people seem to think it`s all these non-Brits on the benefits. The largest benefits recipients are British white people. The lowest are Chinese, other white people and Indians. In a fair and equal society it would be pretty even across all ethnicities.
Just for clarity, Jake, are the stats you alluded to above set out as a %age of the population?
Yes. I don`t have them in front of me now but it`s something like 54% of white British people claim benefits compared to 25% of Chinese. Fairly sure non-British white and Indian were around 40% but don`t quote me on that.
Of course, it would need broken down into specific benefits as imagine this includes things all people are eligible like child payments and pensions.
I wonder how and why they have these stats broken down in terms of ethnicity? What does it matter what colour of skin you have if you`re in receipt of, e.g., child benefit?
Plenty of things are broken down in this way to identify trends and influence policy. For example, it could be there`s low uptake of child benefit amongst some ethnic groups as they are less likely to have English as a first language and the information/process for claiming may not make sense. That`s a made up example but all this stuff is looked at when designing services.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 29 Sep 18:04
From Aunty :-
Around a dozen Tory MPs, including ministers, have complained to the chief whip about Suella Braverman`s recent speech on immigration and refugees.
Some have told the BBC her remarks were offensive, divisive and inaccurate.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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