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 State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 13:11

Former MSP Campbell Martin claims British agents infiltrated, and through the years have risen through, the SNP ranks. They now influence decision making and policy. Self ID is just one their cunning plans…

So, there are MI5 plants, but how would we identify them among all those sitting alongside and behind Halfwit who are also vegetative plants from the neck up?
And…could be the British Heid Plant?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 14:33

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Parboiled, Wed 16 Aug 13:11

Former MSP Campbell Martin claims British agents infiltrated, and through the years have risen through, the SNP ranks. They now influence decision making and policy. Self ID is just one their cunning plans…

So, there are MI5 plants, but how would we identify them among all those sitting alongside and behind Halfwit who are also vegetative plants from the neck up?
And…could be the British Heid Plant?


Are you OK?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 14:40

Dandy ta..

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 14:42

Is there a website somewhere of stories the Mail and Express rejected as too extreme for their readers` consumption?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 14:44

Though I wish I could edit my post..error alert, meantime just put an “H” after could and it makes perfect sense

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 14:49

Where’s our George Smiley..working from home probably!

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 15:48

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Parboiled, Wed 16 Aug 14:44

Though I wish I could edit my post..error alert, meantime just put an “H” after could and it makes perfect sense


Hey Buddy
Just go to the 3 dots top right and you can edit from there.
Good Luck
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 17:18

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Tenruh, Wed 16 Aug 15:48

Quote:

Parboiled, Wed 16 Aug 14:44

Though I wish I could edit my post..error alert, meantime just put an “H” after could and it makes perfect sense


Hey Buddy
Just go to the 3 dots top right and you can edit from there.
Good Luck


Yep, you only have to look as far as your buddy Tenruh to see evidence of people who claim to be interested in independence but are actively trying to weaken the independence movement
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 18:10

Heard a rumour Elvis isn`t dead and lives in a 3 bed bungalow in Dalgety Bay with Kurt Cobain and Lord Lucan. According to the Daily Mail it`s valued at £360,000 and that`s something all its readers need to know for some unknown reason.

Anyway, massive whitabootery but surely it needs accepted that the UK is under possibly the most questionable government to date? We talk about Sturgeon being forgetful but we`re led by guys who have forgotten owning half a dozen houses, receiving six figure "donations" from dodgy characters and buying shares.on companies that subsequently got government contracts. That`s all before we look at the questionable appointments to the Lord`s which includes alleged spies, fraudsters and love children.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 18:54

Westminster is the elephant in the room that Parboiled doesn`t seem to notice.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 19:23

I see Tenruh is under suspicion as one of them..just how deep has this infiltration reached?
Is the Canadian Goose one of the cuckoos in the nest?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 19:46

No idea who Canadian Goose is. Can you explain, or just use their real name?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Wed 16 Aug 23:32

Quote:

jake89, Wed 16 Aug 19:46

No idea who Canadian Goose is. Can you explain, or just use their real name?


One of his dementia nicknames for a woman.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 06:37

Quote:

jake89, Wed 16 Aug 19:46

No idea who Canadian Goose is. Can you explain, or just use their real name?


Here`s a clue,
She`s more green than she`s cabbage looking,
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 07:09

Let us not forget that a serious allegation has been made..Brit Intelligence has infiltrated the SNP. They must be really clever to play so dumb.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 08:53

This goes to the very top .. head of MI5 is a Scot and Glasgow UNI graduate!

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tad Allagash  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:06


‘…but surely it needs accepted that the UK is under possibly the most questionable government to date?…’

Of all time? No, not even close. Munich Agreement, Suez Crisis, IMF bailout, Winter of Discontent were all significantly worse than the current ‘Price of a Freddo bar’ crisis.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:10

That`s a relief then.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:26

Lol, he`s clearly forgetting to log out between accounts at this point
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:36

I’d rather be stuck between logouts than be stuck with nothing between lugs..

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:44

Are you talking from experience?

Why isn`t this `story` being reported in the MSM?



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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 10:56

Quote:

wee eck, Thu 17 Aug 10:44

Are you talking from experience?

Why isn`t this `story` not being reported in the MSM?


Eck, don`t act daft.

Why would it make the MSM....all political parties are to some extent infiltrated by the security forces.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:00

Here`s the article my mate refers to, make of it what you will.

https://www.barrheadboy.com/infiltration-of-the-snp/

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:07

Another blogger with an axe to grind no doubt. What I find curious is that Parboiled, a committed unionist, spends time sourcing this sort of stuff.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:07

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Tenruh, Thu 17 Aug 06:37

Quote:

jake89, Wed 16 Aug 19:46

No idea who Canadian Goose is. Can you explain, or just use their real name?


Here`s a clue,
She`s more green than she`s cabbage looking,


It does appear more and more as if Mario/ Parsboiled/ tenruh are the same person
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:16

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red-star-par, Thu 17 Aug 11:07

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Tenruh, Thu 17 Aug 06:37

Quote:

jake89, Wed 16 Aug 19:46

No idea who Canadian Goose is. Can you explain, or just use their real name?


Here`s a clue,
She`s more green than she`s cabbage looking,


It does appear more and more as if Mario/ Parsboiled/ tenruh are the same person


The absolute cringe of having an alt account to back yourself up 😂
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:20

Has Tenruh infiltrated Parboiled or vice versa?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 11:29

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wee eck, Thu 17 Aug 11:20

Has Tenruh infiltrated Parboiled or vice versa?


Is his lust for Salmond or his hate of women stronger?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 12:04

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Andrew283, Thu 17 Aug 11:29

Quote:

wee eck, Thu 17 Aug 11:20

Has Tenruh infiltrated Parboiled or vice versa?


Is his lust for Salmond or his hate of women stronger?


I`ll leave Parboiled to answer your question Andy.....
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Thu 17 Aug 16:18

I have noticed my singing in the shower is a tad shriller and I was drawn to Mrs P’s perfumed shower gel rather my usual Zulu Warrior all over body scrub.

Whether this is me being infiltrated or the real me bursting out only time will tell

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 09:17

https://youtu.be/_AGM84YpjEw?si=wfTmG6TzKKjoqNrm

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 09:54

Brilliant.

There is a suspicious mole on Bunter’s bottom. It was revealed when he was wearing his kilt on Remembrance Day and bent doon to lay a wreath.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 11:03

Load of drivel.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 11:03

I agree, Jake. You are so right.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 11:04

Oh, ****! Forgot to switch accounts 😳
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 11:37

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jake89, Sat 19 Aug 11:04

Oh, ****! Forgot to switch accounts 😳


😂😂😂😂😂
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 12:44

The Scarlet Pimplenel lives!

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 13:04

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Parboiled, Sat 19 Aug 12:44

The Scarlet Pimplenel lives!


Love the naievity of the nuSNP worshippers Parb..., 9 years ago Blis were dead as do-do's in Scotland and now it looks like they`ll take half of the nuSNP seats in Westminster and probably a year later be the party holding the upper hand in Holyrood, deary me where did it all go wrong George ?

Who do they think split the Independence movement ?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 14:29

Who`s Blis?

Can`t keep up with the nicknames!
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 14:33

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LochgellyAlbert, Sat 19 Aug 14:29

Who`s Blis?

Can`t keep up with the nicknames!


BRITISH LABOUR IN SCOTLAND
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 14:49

UK labour party, no such thing as Scottish Labour, an unregistered party!
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 16:38

Right...so Scottish Labour are bad, SNP are bad, Greens are bad, Tories are bad...is it Libdems for Tenboiled?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 17:48

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jake89, Sat 19 Aug 16:38

Right...so Scottish Labour are bad, SNP are bad, Greens are bad, Tories are bad...is it Libdems for Tenboiled?


Your not paying attention, there`s no Scottish Labour, there`s no SNP anymore , Libdems are a fringe party, cannot take the Canadian Goose party seriously until they win a constituency seat.

So it`s ISP or Alba for me. And when Parb awakening from his slumbering I`m sure he`ll inform you of his flavoured British Unionist party.

On another matter, why do you think the polls are showing Blis as the go to party in the next General and Scottish elections ?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 18:44

When you see how things have changed in the last 6 months how can anyone predict with confidence what will happen in the next year? The GE hasn`t even been declared yet.

Support for independence has hardly moved. I can`t see Alba attracting mass votes and I`ve no idea what ISP is as I`m not addicted to initials the way some folk seem to be.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 19:20

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wee eck, Sat 19 Aug 18:44

When you see how things have changed in the last 6 months how can anyone predict with confidence what will happen in the next year? The GE hasn`t even been declared yet.

Support for independence has hardly moved. I can`t see Alba attracting mass votes and I`ve no idea what ISP is as I`m not addicted to initials the way some folk seem to be.


Independence Scotland Party,

Alba and ISP are newly formed parties and as such its going to be difficult for them to break through, the devolutionist party have had come the next Holyrood election 16 years in power and achieved zilch, folk are cheesed with the tories so will drift back to Labour.


NuSNP have a lot of explaining to do to their voters if they lose as many seats in the GE and lose control of Holyrood as the polls are predicting .

What`s caused the split in the Independence Movement? Its toxic out there..

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 19:22

I assume "I" stands for Independence and "S" stands for Scotland, so perhaps the Independence for Scotland party?

Could one describe the ISP and Alba as fringe parties, or parties not to be taken seriously as they have never won a constituency seat?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 19:27

If the Lib Dems are a fringe party then I don`t even know how to describe Alba or ISP. Alba won`t have any MPs after the next election.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 19:46

Labour can`t even agree on their policies in Scotland, Rutherglen will be a reality check.

Cancelling Brexit is a vote winner, how can Starmer not see that?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 19:53

Labour have one set of policies for Scotland and another set for rUK. If you`re voting for a Westminster MP which set are you voting for?

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:00

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McCaig`s Tower, Sat 19 Aug 19:22

I assume "I" stands for Independence and "S" stands for Scotland, so perhaps the Independence for Scotland party?

Could one describe the ISP and Alba as fringe parties, or parties not to be taken seriously as they have never won a constituency seat?


Certainly fringe parties, don`t think the SNP made any headway until the 1960s and they were founded in the 1930s, 30+ years until they were taken seriously.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:06

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wee eck, Sat 19 Aug 19:53

Labour have one set of policies for Scotland and another set for rUK. If you`re voting for a Westminster MP which set are you voting for?


I won`t be voting for BLIS, if there`s an Independence party standing I`ll vote for them. Unfortunately that may split the vote with nuSNP standing on a devolutionist ticket therefore the local seat where I stay BLis will do what they done in 2017 and win by default.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:07

Quote:

LochgellyAlbert, Sat 19 Aug 19:46

Labour can`t even agree on their policies in Scotland, Rutherglen will be a reality check.

Cancelling Brexit is a vote winner, how can Starmer not see that?


The polls say differently.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:14

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jake89, Sat 19 Aug 19:27

If the Lib Dems are a fringe party then I don`t even know how to describe Alba or ISP. Alba won`t have any MPs after the next election.


Don`t disagree with that analysis, nuSNP will be lucky to get 30 MPs and Blis will take the Dalgety Bay seat along with another 20+

Who would have thought Labour would have made a comeback from their 2015 leathering?

Whats gone wrong with the Independence movement?
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:23

Not much if support for independence is still 45 pc +. When it comes to the crunch at a GE I can`t see independence supporters voting for unionist parties.

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 19 Aug 22:39

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1225498/scotland-holyrood-voting-intention/

Labour doing surprisingly well, though I suspect they will lose votes very quickly as the Murdoch media machine will start to stir things up. Did you know Angela Raynor had FUN on her holiday? Eating chips and vaping apparently. Disgrace! How dare she enjoy herself. At the same time Rishi Sunak enjoyed a lovely holiday with his family. Let`s not mention that the holiday cost more per day than you common people earn in a year.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 00:42

The Murdoch media machine? Isn`t that just The Sun and The Times these days. At least in the UK.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 06:51

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wee eck, Sat 19 Aug 22:23

Not much if support for independence is still 45 pc . When it comes to the crunch at a GE I can`t see independence supporters voting for unionist parties.


I agree their will be people who put the constitutional question top off their decision making at all ballot boxes…
Also I know loads of people who, when given the choice on the union, will (and did) vote for independence, but outside that specific question, ie who will run the government on the current political union/settlement, vote Labour.
For the later group, their ideal scenario would be being able to vote Labour (or an equivalent party) in to run an independent Scotland

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 06:53

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wee eck, Sat 19 Aug 22:23

Not much if support for independence is still 45 pc +. When it comes to the crunch at a GE I can`t see independence supporters voting for unionist parties.


That`s correct, in 2017 labour won back the Kirkcaldy seat with around 200 more votes than they got in 2015, the SNP vote dropped by 10,000 votes, their vote stayed at home.
The SNP lost around 20 seats that election because they didn`t push Independence in their manifesto.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 08:02

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The One Who Knocks, Sun 20 Aug 00:42

The Murdoch media machine? Isn`t that just The Sun and The Times these days. At least in the UK.


Plus all the radio stations, links with the press association, internet advertising and a number of publishers.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 09:17

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jake89, Sun 20 Aug 08:02

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The One Who Knocks, Sun 20 Aug 00:42

The Murdoch media machine? Isn`t that just The Sun and The Times these days. At least in the UK.


Plus all the radio stations, links with the press association, internet advertising and a number of publishers.


You forgot the BBC!
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 09:18

Watch out for the young vote, if they can be bothered to go to the polling station!
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 09:23

And so it continues!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-dislike-of-the-english-is-there-for-all-of-us-to-see-ck8zq6z3v
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 10:16

Example from today:

Daily Mail: SNPs war on motorists backfires - reality being the LEZ, which is to reduce pollution and is across Scotland (including non-SNP authorities) has cost money. Money or health? The former if you read the Daily Mail.

This is all while UK Gov is telling porkies about oil extraction in the North Sea, unable to control the borders it claimed it would "take back" after Brexit, and is now spending money on advisors to promote the union after criticising the SNP for doing the same on independence.

It would be great if all these newspapers came with fact checkers to display when they`re talking utter nonsense.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Parboiled  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 11:08

In response to the 17:48 post above, I am still undecided on my flavoured UK Unionist party. Let me chew on it a while..

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 12:01

Jake I`m not sure that Talksport and Talkradio have much of an influence on voters. Perhaps back in the day The Sun could have an impact but I`m always more of the opinion that people consume media that reflect views they already hold. Anyway social media is far more prevalent in people`s lives than traditional media and social media is overwhelming anti conservative in this country and the big tech companies are currently in dispute with the government so perhaps Starmer needs to court Meta and Alphabet.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 12:14

100% agree that people look for and consume media that supports their view and ignore/turn off media that challenges what they believe (technology algorithms along with a natural human desire to be with people similar to them equally at fault)

I also think, not only has this caused a polarisation of people, but also an unhealthy of joining of views across various social issues, eg you tell someone your view on one thing, and they will probably know your view across a whole range of topics which further deepens people’s differences.
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 13:11

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The One Who Knocks, Sun 20 Aug 12:01

Jake I`m not sure that Talksport and Talkradio have much of an influence on voters. Perhaps back in the day The Sun could have an impact but I`m always more of the opinion that people consume media that reflect views they already hold. Anyway social media is far more prevalent in people`s lives than traditional media and social media is overwhelming anti conservative in this country and the big tech companies are currently in dispute with the government so perhaps Starmer needs to court Meta and Alphabet.


Not sure about that. I made the mistake of listening to TalkRadio recently and couldn`t believe my ears at the callers and presenters. Genuine idiots. The only sensible comment was from a lady asking why more British people weren`t taking carer roles as these were all being filled with "foreigners".

Anyway, let`s get a view on the England world cup final from the Scottish FM...
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 14:42

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jake89, Sun 20 Aug 13:11

Quote:

The One Who Knocks, Sun 20 Aug 12:01

Jake I`m not sure that Talksport and Talkradio have much of an influence on voters. Perhaps back in the day The Sun could have an impact but I`m always more of the opinion that people consume media that reflect views they already hold. Anyway social media is far more prevalent in people`s lives than traditional media and social media is overwhelming anti conservative in this country and the big tech companies are currently in dispute with the government so perhaps Starmer needs to court Meta and Alphabet.


Not sure about that. I made the mistake of listening to TalkRadio recently and couldn`t believe my ears at the callers and presenters. Genuine idiots. The only sensible comment was from a lady asking why more British people weren`t taking carer roles as these were all being filled with "foreigners".

Anyway, let`s get a view on the England world cup final from the Scottish FM...


You need to try GB News if you think TR is bad...couldn`t go further right than them
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 20 Aug 14:49

Andrew Neil said GB News had to be launched as there wasn`t enough right-wing commentary on the air!

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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Wed 30 Aug 10:49

https://wingsoverscotland.com/enemy-of-a-state/
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 Re: State Skullduggery
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 30 Aug 11:27

Breaking news: Activist surprised they are being monitored.

Let`s be honest here, this is "ooh, look at me!". Sadly for the Rev, there are thousands who get these alerts from Apple so it`s nothing special.
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