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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 21 Mar 11:01
Back in the news again, maladministration found, DWP refusing to accept and comply!š²šš
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Mar 17:56
LA .. I noticed the figures of between Ā£1000 and Ā£2950 being branded as suitable compensation .. the Waspi`s are looking for Ā£10000 .. Mrs BPP lost in the region of Ā£36,000 .. many lost Ā£40000 and more
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Mar 18:48
Bpp, could you not have done the decent thing and paid Mrs Bpp Ā£36k out of your pension? ššš
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Mar 20:49
53 years married 27th of this month wee eck .. handed every penny over .. like my Dad and her Dad .. bless them
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 21 Mar 21:42
Happy Anniversary to you both, Bpp!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 21 Mar 22:50
Thanks wee eck
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 22 Mar 08:57
Congratulations BPP, we celebrated our Golden Wedding last year.
My wife has lost near Ā£50K having worked since 15yrs old, they say they cannot afford it, they spent the money they saved.
Look at the gold plated MP`s pension scheme and the money being paid to ex PM`s, some who only lasted days along with their appointed ministers?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 22 Mar 11:39
Aye LA they can find the money when they want to ..
50 years !! Mrs LA deserves a medal :-))
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 22 Mar 11:59
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Fri 22 Mar 08:57
Congratulations BPP, we celebrated our Golden Wedding last year.
My wife has lost near Ā£50K having worked since 15yrs old, they say they cannot afford it, they spent the money they saved.
Look at the gold plated MP`s pension scheme and the money being paid to ex PM`s, some who only lasted days along with their appointed ministers?
Ex PMs get 102k each year to pay for correspondence relating to their time in office
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 22 Mar 14:02
Tbh the UK pension is very poor and it`s apparent there`s a desire to push the burden onto employers. That doesn`t help if someone is on a low income or regularly unemployed.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Fri 22 Mar 14:10
Quote:
jake89, Fri 22 Mar 14:02
Tbh the UK pension is very poor and it`s apparent there`s a desire to push the burden onto employers. That doesn`t help if someone is on a low income or regularly unemployed.
Believe it`s the third poorest in Europe, still you cannot constantly be at war and pay high pensions.
I think Holland pays the highest rate at around 103% of their final salary.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Fri 22 Mar 21:11
I think there are at least 5 separate, albeit related, issues here (leaving aside the remarkably durability of dotnettersā marriages)
1 is the historical disparity between rates of pay awarded to women and men for doing the same job.
2 is the provision of state pensions for people who have chosen to act as unpaid carers or home-makers for much of their working life.
3 is the equalisation of pension ages between men and women to comply with sex equality legislation
4 is the increase in State Pension Ages to reflect massive improvements to life expectancy
5 is the failure to communicate the changes to 3 and 4 adequately.
I believe this report only deals with number 5.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sun 24 Mar 12:23
The greatest injustice was men getting their pension five years later than women, despite living on average five years less.
As for the WASPIās saying they were stung..as a mere male I knew all about these
changes so why not them?
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Mon 25 Mar 12:28
Funnily enough, many of these decisions regarding pension policy would have been made by male-dominated governments yet you still get the dinosaur Tory males like Parboiled that want to play the victim. You have to smile! š
How were women ever supposed to get to the same level of pension contributions as men when they have been systematically excluded from education and lifetime work until only a few decades ago? And even now it`s not totally equal. That whole ideology all eminates from a wee thing called Christianity and Canon Law, which we are finally on the verge of irradicating in Scotland.
Hoping that a British Government or a Tory does the morally right thing is always wishful thinking, so my bet is we`ll continue to see the usual initiation of institutional protectionism from DWP and all UK government bodies.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Tue 26 Mar 15:01
HJ you have exuded yourself..there were plenty of lassies in my class in the fifties decade and the staff in my sixties decade office were mostly female ā¦.save your mince for Swedish meatballs.
Talking about mince, this subject cropped up in Holyrood today, a matter they have no influence over whatsoever
Post Edited (Tue 26 Mar 15:11)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 26 Mar 17:26
What you`re missing Parboiled is that traditionally women entered into low paid jobs like receptionist, typist, waitress etc before giving up work for a good few years to have kids then go back part-time or not at all. That`s still often the case today but things are a lot more even, thus the move to have a consistent retirement age.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 26 Mar 18:53
Women on lower pay doing the same job as males.
Not allowed to join pension schemes because they would probably leave to have family.
Not considered for promotion because of the same reason.
Not allowed to sign credit agreements, had to be the male in the house.
Males having their stamp paid to 65yrs of age if retired/unemployed at 60yrs of age.
This was Thatchers way of fiddling unemployment figures!
Working from 15yrs of age as the majority of females never entered university.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 27 Mar 09:38
Quote:
Parboiled, Tue 26 Mar 15:01
Talking about mince, this subject cropped up in Holyrood today, a matter they have no influence over whatsoever
It was brought up because Sarwar and Baillie were shown backing the WASPI women in various photoshoots.
Since the PHSO decision they have been remarkably quiet, in fact silent, some may think that Labour head office had instructed them to do so?
I also see they voted with the Tories for the reintroduction of tuition fees!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 27 Mar 09:42
Quote:
Parboiled, Sun 24 Mar 12:23
The greatest injustice was men getting their pension five years later than women, despite living on average five years less.
As for the WASPIās saying they were stung..as a mere male I knew all about these
changes so why not them?
I am sure the Ombudsman would be interested in how you knew about the age equalisation as in the report he states the changes were not communicated properly?
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 27 Mar 10:21
Sunak saying vote Tory and he will keep the triple lock
Lord Willetts, a former Tory MP, told i the lock, introduced in 2010, was āfunded by the speeding up of the pension ageā.
He said the Government decided to bring forward the increase in the state pension age for women to help pay for the policy, adding the āprecedent and evidence so farā indicates that keeping the triple lock makes it likely the retirement age could be increased further.
This means it may have to rise to 68, sooner than 2044, its current estimated increase. It will rise to 67 by the end of this decade.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 27 Mar 11:16
Age was increased so Osbourne could rake in the subsequent proceeds, he even admitted it in one of his speeches!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 Mar 16:58
It will rise as long as life expectancy rises. In a twist of fate, it`s the toffs in the south east who will get more out of this "benefit" than some poor person in Glasgow due to the vast difference in life expectancy. I haven`t looked recently but I don`t think 68 is too far off the average male life expectancy in parts of Glasgow.
Just checked and average life expectancy in Calton is 67.8 years!
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 30 Mar 19:19
They have been shat on and all these labour, liberal, and tory politicians who promised support will need to justify these fibs at the GE.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 5 Apr 14:55
Good read LA ..thanks
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 2 May 13:06
Support for compensation from Holyrood, apart from Labour who abstained!
Deary me, must have got the instructions from Starmer?
Jackie Baillie will be alright in the Lords, stuffing her face!š”š”š”
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 3 May 07:45
And this is why you can`t trust Labour at all. They will always be a UK party first. It`s a real shame as they have some solid MSPs.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 3 May 09:16
Whenever Labour get the opportunity to do what is right, they either vote against it, or abstain. I voted Labour for the first 20 years I had a vote, but this is the reason I couldn`t bring myself to vote for them again. They are the Red Wing of the Tory Party
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 3 May 10:53
LA, Jackie Baillie is positively svelte compared to some of the SNP heavyweights heaving themselves about in Westminster and Holyrood!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 18 Dec 00:18
WASPI women let down by the Red Tories!
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 18 Dec 08:32
What is the actual point in having an ombudsman ?
I voted labour to get rid of the Torry`s .. but I`m not sure we did
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 18 Dec 10:23
Millionaire farmers and landowners would disagree
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 18 Dec 10:46
If part of Labour`s campaign was to improve public faith in politicians then they have failed badly. These pictures of Starmer and Kendall, when they were in opposition, supporting the campaign of the WASPI women have not worn well.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 18 Dec 10:55
Meanwhile 9.8 million MALES had their national insurance paid from age 60 to 65 by the UK government to fiddle the unemployment figures!
This decision will be one of Labour`s biggest fails, what is the point of the Parliamentary Ombudsman?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 18 Dec 19:56
Labour are despicable. Imagine having voted for these cretinsā¦..When will we ever learn ? It does not matter who is in power at WM they are all a bunch of arrogant, self righteous, incompetent, crooked, bare faced liars.
We deserve everything we get though as a nation for being so utterly gullibleā¦
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 21 Dec 15:19
Labour have blown it in barely 6 months. The only party left that will put Scotland first is the SNP.
2026 could be the year.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 23 Dec 14:50
Quote:
pacifist, Sat 21 Dec 15:19
Labour have blown it in barely 6 months. The only party left that will put Scotland first is the SNP.
2026 could be the year.
2024 could`ve been the year.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 23 Dec 17:29
Quote:
pacifist, Sat 21 Dec 15:19
Labour have blown it in barely 6 months. The only party left that will put Scotland first is the SNP.
2026 could be the year.
Labour were always going to blow it. Their Scottish branch are spineless who wonāt stand up for their country when being shafted by Westminster.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 23 Dec 18:12
Labour are in tow with the Davos crowd, they`re going to be far worse than the Tories.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 24 Dec 05:26
We`ve got the English Labour party with more Scottish seats in Westminster than our own Scottish parties, why is that?
Pacifist states that the only party which will give us Independence is the SNP, how is that when they`ve lost in excess of 40 seats since 2015. Why has that come about. What are they doing to do differently for the public to return to them.
He`s confident that the SNP will lead us to independence, where does that confidence come from, since 2015 they have been mandated not once or twice but over five times to get us independence and what have they achieved, zilch....they don`t even try to expose the annual Gers figure...
What are they going to change in the next 10 years that makes him believe that the SNP will deliver independence ?
Post Edited (Tue 24 Dec 05:30)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Dec 12:56
Quote:
Tenruh, Tue 24 Dec 05:26
We`ve got the English Labour party with more Scottish seats in Westminster than our own Scottish parties, why is that?
Pacifist states that the only party which will give us Independence is the SNP, how is that when they`ve lost in excess of 40 seats since 2015. Why has that come about. What are they doing to do differently for the public to return to them.
He`s confident that the SNP will lead us to independence, where does that confidence come from, since 2015 they have been mandated not once or twice but over five times to get us independence and what have they achieved, zilch....they don`t even try to expose the annual Gers figure...
What are they going to change in the next 10 years that makes him believe that the SNP will deliver independence ?
Because they are the best bet to deliver independence and seem to do a better job than Labour AND the Tories. Make no mistake, both those parties would be a disaster in Holyrood.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 25 Dec 06:52
Quote:
jake89, Tue 24 Dec 12:56
Quote:
Tenruh, Tue 24 Dec 05:26
We`ve got the English Labour party with more Scottish seats in Westminster than our own Scottish parties, why is that?
Pacifist states that the only party which will give us Independence is the SNP, how is that when they`ve lost in excess of 40 seats since 2015. Why has that come about. What are they doing to do differently for the public to return to them.
He`s confident that the SNP will lead us to independence, where does that confidence come from, since 2015 they have been mandated not once or twice but over five times to get us independence and what have they achieved, zilch....they don`t even try to expose the annual Gers figure...
What are they going to change in the next 10 years that makes him believe that the SNP will deliver independence ?
Because they are the best bet to deliver independence and seem to do a better job than Labour AND the Tories. Make no mistake, both those parties would be a disaster in Holyrood.
Got to through it back to you . How are they going to achieve independence it going forward when the last 10 years they`ve wrecked it ?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 25 Dec 15:43
Quote:
Tenruh, Wed 25 Dec 06:52
Quote:
jake89, Tue 24 Dec 12:56
Quote:
Tenruh, Tue 24 Dec 05:26
We`ve got the English Labour party with more Scottish seats in Westminster than our own Scottish parties, why is that?
Pacifist states that the only party which will give us Independence is the SNP, how is that when they`ve lost in excess of 40 seats since 2015. Why has that come about. What are they doing to do differently for the public to return to them.
He`s confident that the SNP will lead us to independence, where does that confidence come from, since 2015 they have been mandated not once or twice but over five times to get us independence and what have they achieved, zilch....they don`t even try to expose the annual Gers figure...
What are they going to change in the next 10 years that makes him believe that the SNP will deliver independence ?
Because they are the best bet to deliver independence and seem to do a better job than Labour AND the Tories. Make no mistake, both those parties would be a disaster in Holyrood.
Got to through it back to you . How are they going to achieve independence it going forward when the last 10 years they`ve wrecked it ?
How is anyone going to get a referendum though?
Itās never going to be given with a yes vote popular in the polls.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 25 Dec 21:25
Quote:
Tenruh, Wed 25 Dec 06:52
Quote:
jake89, Tue 24 Dec 12:56
Quote:
Tenruh, Tue 24 Dec 05:26
We`ve got the English Labour party with more Scottish seats in Westminster than our own Scottish parties, why is that?
Pacifist states that the only party which will give us Independence is the SNP, how is that when they`ve lost in excess of 40 seats since 2015. Why has that come about. What are they doing to do differently for the public to return to them.
He`s confident that the SNP will lead us to independence, where does that confidence come from, since 2015 they have been mandated not once or twice but over five times to get us independence and what have they achieved, zilch....they don`t even try to expose the annual Gers figure...
What are they going to change in the next 10 years that makes him believe that the SNP will deliver independence ?
Because they are the best bet to deliver independence and seem to do a better job than Labour AND the Tories. Make no mistake, both those parties would be a disaster in Holyrood.
Got to through it back to you . How are they going to achieve independence it going forward when the last 10 years they`ve wrecked it ?
You`re confusing two things - one is running Scotland with Scotland`s interests at heart. IMO, only one party can do that and that`s the SNP. Maybe one day Alba but English registered parties will never be.any good for Scotland.
The second is gaining actual independence. NO party can achieve this currently. Despite being told this is a union of equals, we have to ask permission for a vote and will always be told no. The likes of Salvo are looking for ways around this but the reality is it`s not simple.
So vote Labour or Lib Dems if you want, all they`ll do is push policy that`s intended for England. That`s nothing against England, but what they want isn`t always what Scotland needs, and it often isn`t even what most of England needs!
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