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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 13:56

I guess most of you have now seen the sickening video of the woman being murdered in cold blood by Trumps ICE Gestapo.

The statement by US Gov officials trying to defend this are utterly abhorrent
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Trump went as far as saying that he watched the video and that the driver attempted to kill the ICE agent with her car and that the agent was “ Run over, hospitalised and lucky to be alive”.

He is seen walking towards the crashed car with the victim inside and then later calmly walking to his own car before driving off.

Bare faced lies by Trump and his goons despite the whole incident being filmed and on You tube.

To the poster on another thread who says he “ Does not mind Tump” ………the man is insane, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, a bare faced liar…..a disgusting horrible person.

He is going to have enough problems at home to deal with very soon without causing mayhem in every other part of the world. Deflection right enough…….

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 14:22

I always take anything Trump says with a pinch of salt but I was amazed at how he could interpret what happened as shown by that video in the way that he did. He obviously believes that, if you`re going to lie, lie BIG!

It`s a sad indictment of democracy that somebody like him can be elected to be POTUS and act without any restraint because of a lack of accountability to Congress.

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 14:49

The fact that he is “ Lying Big “ despite it all being on video tells you that he is insane…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 14:58

Anyone that now spouts about TDS needs to go get their heads checked. How anyone can defend his recent tirades and behaviour is beyond me.

The World Cup may be in doubt this year as NATO is about to end, which will plunge Europe into a major war I feel, as Mad Vlad goes on a rampage knowing Trumps toed the line.

Welcome to politics in 2026:
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 15:36

Trump doesn`t care. He`s a complete fantasist who believes the words that come out his mouth. Has no idea there`s a difference between opinion and fact.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 17:21

Quote:

Dave_1885, Thu 8 Jan 14:58

Anyone that now spouts about TDS needs to go get their heads checked. How anyone can defend his recent tirades and behaviour is beyond me.

The World Cup may be in doubt this year as NATO is about to end, which will plunge Europe into a major war I feel, as Mad Vlad goes on a rampage knowing Trumps toed the line.

Welcome to politics in 2026:


World cup will not be in doubt, dont know what rubbish has been filling your head son

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 17:22

Quote:

desparado, Thu 8 Jan 13:56

I guess most of you have now seen the sickening video of the woman being murdered in cold blood by Trumps ICE Gestapo.

The statement by US Gov officials trying to defend this are utterly abhorrent
.
Trump went as far as saying that he watched the video and that the driver attempted to kill the ICE agent with her car and that the agent was “ Run over, hospitalised and lucky to be alive”.

He is seen walking towards the crashed car with the victim inside and then later calmly walking to his own car before driving off.

Bare faced lies by Trump and his goons despite the whole incident being filmed and on You tube.

To the poster on another thread who says he “ Does not mind Tump” ………the man is insane, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, a bare faced liar…..a disgusting horrible person.

He is going to have enough problems at home to deal with very soon without causing mayhem in every other part of the world. Deflection right enough…….


Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

COYP
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 18:08

No one`s stopping you forming an opinion or expressing it on here. It`s Trump who doesn`t like that if it disagrees with his.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of course you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 19:18

Trump knows exactly what he is doing, US news channels are incredibly partisan and the 2 factions won’t watch the others outlet. Trump supporting channels will dilute the story and they certainly won’t show the whole video and his supporters won’t seek it out as they willingly stick their heads in the sand and accept what he says as gospel.

It’s a cult.

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 20:08

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wee eck, Thu 8 Jan 18:08

No one`s stopping you forming an opinion or expressing it on here. It`s Trump who doesn`t like that if it disagrees with his.


TDS! 😜🤪
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 20:29

Deary Me

Vance says officer had `every reason` to think he was under threat

Asked if the officer is still on duty and what the target of the Ice operation was on Wednesday, Vance says: "It was a legitimate law enforcement operation, we were going door to door to try to find criminal illegal aliens and deport them from the United States of America."

He says that he does not know whether the officer has been placed on administrative leave and asks people to pray for the agent.

Vance also says he is "certain" that Renee Good "violated the law" and the officer involved had "every reason to think that he was under very serious threat of injury" or for his life.

He goes on to say: "The idea that this was not justified is absurd and I think everybody knows it in their heart".

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 21:01

Gob smacking.

I bet Vance is a “ Good Christian “ too. Evangelist probably. They are insane…



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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 21:20

The Exploited were spot on. Now More relevant than ever
https://youtu.be/8S0aD6QLTxQ?si=_dQ0-OChTmuHEIqX

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 22:02

Helluva tune but that`s Big T watching the world cup from his sofa!
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Thu 8 Jan 22:13

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ipswichpar, Thu 8 Jan 22:02

Helluva tune but that`s Big T watching the world cup from his sofa!


😅😅😅

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 07:15

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desparado, Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of course you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…


But yall hated on me for liking trump my dude

COYP
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 10:15

Going to be carnage if England supporters start their chair chucking championship!🙈🇺🇸
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 13:33

There will be no bother involving England fans over there. The sort of scumbags that do that sort of thing aren`t going to be pitching up stateside.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 18:44

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shellypar, Fri 9 Jan 07:15

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desparado, Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of curse you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…


But yall hated on me for liking trump my dude


Are you upset because you think Trump has never hated on anyone or because you only want people who aren`t you to be hated on?

Basically I`m wondering whether you are deluded or just a massive hypocrite?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 20:56

The similarities with nazi Germany can’t be ignored with what Trump is doing in America.
Sending ICE into cities is very similar to Gestapo tactics to root out ‘aliens’ and create an order of fear among all citizens.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 23:33

The agent`s bodycam footage.


https://x.com/i/status/2009679932289626385


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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 9 Jan 23:40

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Bletchley_Par, Fri 9 Jan 23:33

The agent`s bodycam footage.


https://x.com/i/status/2009679932289626385


A murderers eye view right there from the Gestapos own camera
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 00:03

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Bletchley_Par, Fri 9 Jan 23:33

The agent`s bodycam footage.


https://x.com/i/status/2009679932289626385


Showing he could have side stepped easily & not used deadly force. Even his “oh oo” exclamation was more akin to spilling a pint as opposed to ‘my life is in peril I better blow this woman’s head off’
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 00:39

If she really wanted to run him down, she wouldn`t be turning the steering wheel to the right, she`d have driven straight at him. Cold blooded murder, end off.

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 07:44

Trump`s men behaving like the SS, Starmer and his digital id, agenda 20 30 isn`t even creeping up.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 08:05

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Wotsit, Fri 9 Jan 18:44

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shellypar, Fri 9 Jan 07:15

Quote:

desparado, Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of curse you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…


But yall hated on me for liking trump my dude


Are you upset because you think Trump has never hated on anyone or because you only want people who aren`t you to be hated on?

Basically I`m wondering whether you are deluded or just a massive hypocrite?


I just quite like trump tbh

COYP
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 08:42

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 08:05

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Wotsit, Fri 9 Jan 18:44

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shellypar, Fri 9 Jan 07:15

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desparado, Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of curse you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…


But yall hated on me for liking trump my dude


Are you upset because you think Trump has never hated on anyone or because you only want people who aren`t you to be hated on?

Basically I`m wondering whether you are deluded or just a massive hypocrite?


I just quite like trump tbh


What is it about child rapists is appealing?

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 11:00

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 08:05

I just quite like trump tbh


This is either trolling, or you are as thick as two short planks.

It`s hard to tell from internet forums, but anyone I know in real life who likes Donald Trump has tended to be someone with a very low IQ. I do know a couple of people who seem quite intelligent at first view at work, who like Trump and worship Musk and the likes, but they are on the spectrum.

I really can`t see any redeeming features at all. The guy is a little rich kid who has had everything handed to him, he`s obviously never been told "no" when he was growing up, he`s a liar, a bully, a prostitute punter, a rapist, most likely has been involved in paedophilia and human trafficking. He`s corrupt, under the control of Putin and Israel. He`s putting his own family ahead of anything that will benefit the country. He`s an absolute disgrace to the office of President of the United States of America. Anyone who likes him isn`t all there
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 11:21

I don`t like him, but he knows how to play the game and I can understand why people like him if they don`t look at things in any depth and appreciate his directness and sense of humour.

He has said he likes people who aren`t educated. That`s not necessarily because they are easier to influence, it is a rhetorical device to convey he is a normal bloke and in a one person, one vote system it is a decent strategy.

Hopefully the left can get themselves in better shape but they are making bloody hard work of it.

I suspect things will change after the mid-terms. I am expected he is going to find it a lot harder to get a lot of things funded.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 12:03

We have a terrible leader in Starmer. Weaker than a limp lettuce.

Trump on the other hand is an idiot. He talks like an over-excited child describing a film he just saw.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 12:51

My son has just returned from Kansas and he remarked that the last time Trump was in power there were flags in many front gardens supporting him.

This time he saw one flag!
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 13:11

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LochgellyAlbert, Sat 10 Jan 12:51

My son has just returned from Kansas and he remarked that the last time Trump was in power there were flags in many front gardens supporting him.

This time he saw one flag!


I think most of the flags were built in Chyyyyynaaaaa and have therefore been deported.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 14:38

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ipswichpar, Sat 10 Jan 13:11

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LochgellyAlbert, Sat 10 Jan 12:51

My son has just returned from Kansas and he remarked that the last time Trump was in power there were flags in many front gardens supporting him.

This time he saw one flag!


I think most of the flags were built in Chyyyyynaaaaa and have therefore been deported.


Too true!
Maybe waiting on the extra stars to be added?🤔🤣
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 17:27

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Dandy Warhol, Sat 10 Jan 08:42

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 08:05

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Wotsit, Fri 9 Jan 18:44

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shellypar, Fri 9 Jan 07:15

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desparado, Thu 8 Jan 18:23

Twas me who said that, are we all not allowed to form our own character judgements on people?

Of curse you are.

My opinion is that the guy is a raving lunatic…


But yall hated on me for liking trump my dude


Are you upset because you think Trump has never hated on anyone or because you only want people who aren`t you to be hated on?

Basically I`m wondering whether you are deluded or just a massive hypocrite?


I just quite like trump tbh


What is it about child rapists is appealing?


What has that got to do with anything. Are you suggesting i am for child rape or something, if so i reckon u take that back like.

COYP
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 17:28

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red-star-par, Sat 10 Jan 11:00

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 08:05

I just quite like trump tbh


This is either trolling, or you are as thick as two short planks.

It`s hard to tell from internet forums, but anyone I know in real life who likes Donald Trump has tended to be someone with a very low IQ. I do know a couple of people who seem quite intelligent at first view at work, who like Trump and worship Musk and the likes, but they are on the spectrum.

I really can`t see any redeeming features at all. The guy is a little rich kid who has had everything handed to him, he`s obviously never been told "no" when he was growing up, he`s a liar, a bully, a prostitute punter, a rapist, most likely has been involved in paedophilia and human trafficking. He`s corrupt, under the control of Putin and Israel. He`s putting his own family ahead of anything that will benefit the country. He`s an absolute disgrace to the office of President of the United States of America. Anyone who likes him isn`t all there


I find that comment calling me thick highly offensive, the fact that u believe that if an individual likes someone you despise or dislike it means they are stupid or have a low iq, is honestly, quite thick in itself

Side note, if ur saying im thick as 2 short planks, it is you that is thick my good friend, short implies length, not thickness lol

COYP

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 17:31

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 17:28

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red-star-par, Sat 10 Jan 11:00

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shellypar, Sat 10 Jan 08:05

I just quite like trump tbh


This is either trolling, or you are as thick as two short planks.

It`s hard to tell from internet forums, but anyone I know in real life who likes Donald Trump has tended to be someone with a very low IQ. I do know a couple of people who seem quite intelligent at first view at work, who like Trump and worship Musk and the likes, but they are on the spectrum.

I really can`t see any redeeming features at all. The guy is a little rich kid who has had everything handed to him, he`s obviously never been told "no" when he was growing up, he`s a liar, a bully, a prostitute punter, a rapist, most likely has been involved in paedophilia and human trafficking. He`s corrupt, under the control of Putin and Israel. He`s putting his own family ahead of anything that will benefit the country. He`s an absolute disgrace to the office of President of the United States of America. Anyone who likes him isn`t all there


No i am not a troll

I find that comment calling me thick stupid and childish, the fact that u believe that if an individual likes someone you despise or dislike it means they are stupid or have a low iq, is honestly, quite thick in itself

Side note, if ur saying im thick as 2 short planks, it is you that is thick my good friend, short implies length, not thickness lol


COYP
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 17:36

I don`t think you`ve ever said what exactly it is about Trump that you like.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 17:40

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wee eck, Sat 10 Jan 17:36

I don`t think you`ve ever said what exactly it is about Trump that you like.


Why should i need to? And its mainly some of his policies i like

COYP

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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 18:06

You don`t need to do anything but what`s the point in taking part in a discussion if you don`t specify what you like about him - or his policies?
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 18:06

Obviously you don`t need to.

But this is a politics forum, so people are going to ask you to follow-up on vague statements like yours.

This is done on the understanding that folk posting here are open to having their opinions questioned and challenged.

Are you not keen on that?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 18:52

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Wotsit, Sat 10 Jan 18:06

Obviously you don`t need to.

But this is a politics forum, so people are going to ask you to follow-up on vague statements like yours.

This is done on the understanding that folk posting here are open to having their opinions questioned and challenged.

Are you not keen on that?


Perhaps that`s the policy they like?
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 Re: ICE
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 10 Jan 20:11

Shelly, what is it that appeals to you about Trump?

The bankrupt businesses?
The bizarre rambling speeches?
The rape allegations (including children?)
The sex with prostitutes
The questionable pardons?
His thoughts about women and how they should be treated like **** and grabbed by the pussy?
His dodgy university?
His hope for a recession so he could buy up property cheap?

What about his own statement that the people who voted for him are idiots?

The guy is a grade A flower.
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