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 Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 13 May 08:11

It`s perhaps not surprising, but it`s definitely disappointing to see the Labour Government embracing Tory idealogy on immigration. Certainly, the numbers arriving according to government sources will have alarmed those who believe Britain is first and foremost for Brits, which is understandable but a bit myopic.

Every country needs a workforce prepared to carry out a variety of jobs. The problem we have here is that employers find it difficult, if not nigh on impossible, to recruit in low paid and temporary or seasonal jobs. The policy announced by Keir Starmer yesterday effectively restricts UK entry to university graduates. Anyone hoping to come here to work on farms, in care homes, and hospitality can forget it. Similarly, for those coming over for a few months to pick fruit or improve their English.

Some of us will remember Suella (or was it Cruella?) Braverman telling us the British public would "step up to the plate" and fill these jobs. Well, they clearly didn`t.

Is there any evidence to suggest that these jobs will be filled now under this new government?



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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par  
Date:   Tue 13 May 10:41

Quote:

GG Riva, Tue 13 May 08:11

Is there any evidence to suggest that these jobs will be filled now under this new government?


Next announcement is that the scrounging OAP’s and disabled people that are claiming benefits will be ‘encouraged’ to take these jobs to replace their winter allowance and disabled living allowance that is getting removed.

To paraphrase Kevin Bridges
- paralysed from the neck down? We don’t give a #### mate, there will be a farmer out there needing a scarecrow…

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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 13 May 10:46

The opening two paragraphs of John Crace`s sketch in the Guardian this morning sums it up nicely -

`You know how it is. You get on the 87 at the Vauxhall depot and you suddenly realise you know no one on the bus. Time was when everyone in the queue would have been best mates. Off for pie, mash and jellied eels together before a knees-up down the Old Bull and Bush. Worse still, some people may not even be talking English. We didn’t beat the Hun in two world wars to hear German spoken on public transport.

Then there are all those Polish supermarkets. Who asked them to come over here, pay their taxes and business rates and set up on the high street? They don’t even have the grace to relabel their produce in English. And why can’t they sell something quintessentially British? Like Lurpak. What do you mean, that’s Danish? Butter was invented by the Brits.`

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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Tue 13 May 10:58

Little Englander philosophy!🤬

If this had been implemented years ago then England wouldn`t have had a decent football team!

I no longer recognise the Labour Party🤔
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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 13 May 11:42

Met migration to the UK was 720 thousand last year. The year before a tad over 900 thousand. Unless within those numbers are the appropriate number of doctors, nurses, teachers, social workers, refuse workers, law enforcement, etc that the city the size of Glasgow/Liverpool would require then I don`t see how those numbers can be sustainable without the collapse of public services as we know them.

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They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 13 May 12:03

Aren`t most of them needed to keep said public services operating? That`s the conundrum isn`t it?

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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 13 May 14:29

will rules apply to the millionaires coming to the EPL or only the boat people?

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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 13 May 14:30

When you look at who is doing the work, the cleaners at the train station, the porters in the hospital, the delivery drivers, the carers looking after the elderly relatives we can`t be bothered with, then new migrants to the country are essential. Thats without taking into consideration the highly skilled surgeons, doctors, nurses etc.

The unskilled people who claim that they are coming over here stealing our jobs don`t seem to realise that we need the migrants to do this as they are too lazy/ useless/ unmotivated to do the jobs themselves.

Ask yourself, when you see some of the people mooching about Dunfermline, would you want them going into your grannies house to wipe her erse, or would they be better locked after by the nice lady from Africa who actually does care?
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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 13 May 17:48

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The One Who Knocks, Tue 13 May 11:42

Net migration to the UK was 720 thousand last year. The year before a tad over 900 thousand. Unless within those numbers are the appropriate number of doctors, nurses, teachers, social workers, refuse workers, law enforcement, etc that the city the size of Glasgow/Liverpool would require then I don`t see how those numbers can be sustainable without the collapse of public services as we know them.


It pains me to point out that you are the only poster on this thread who appears to be defending the government`s stance. While I agree that something needs to be done to reduce immigration (assuming those figures are accurate), why not adopt a strategy that allows people in to fill vacancies where they exist, rather than limit entry to university graduates?

My father arrived in Scotland alone to work on a farm in 1958. He was planning to save enough money to buy a bigger house for his wife and 3 kids as the one we lived in was ridiculously small - a single room. Before he could come over, the farmer had to provide a guarantee of employment and accommodation. He worked as a dairyman from 3 am until 5 pm, with 30 mins for breakfast and an hour for lunch. So pleased was the farmer with his strong work ethic that he eventually convinced him to bring his family over, knowing full well that he would only stay on if he put down roots. And so the farmer carried out all the arrangements for us to emigrate to Scotland, where we have been educated and integrated, worked, paid taxes and contributed to the country`s economy.



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 Re: Govt. Immigration Policy
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 13 May 18:32

Remove all non Brits from the country and see what happens……country wont last a day before things closing down and stopping. Then let them moan about it…..
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