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 National ID cards
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 09:07

I see Starmer is advocating digital ID cards - long overdue I reckon.

The benefits are a no brainer IMO.
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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 12:17

Quote:

veteraneastender, Wed 3 Sept 09:07

I see Starmer is advocating digital ID cards - long overdue I reckon.

The benefits are a no brainer IMO.


Name one benefit of ID cards that a passport or driving licence doesn`t already provide.
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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 12:37

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sadindiefreak, Wed 3 Sept 12:17

Quote:

veteraneastender, Wed 3 Sept 09:07

I see Starmer is advocating digital ID cards - long overdue I reckon.

The benefits are a no brainer IMO.


Name one benefit of ID cards that a passport or driving licence doesn`t already provide.


For a start, neither of those are digital IDs, though I suppose a passport is to some degree due to the associated biometrics.

For me, the benefit would be flexibility. No need for paper/plastic.
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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 13:27

…And a quick Google will give you multiple reasons why I’ll be saying no to carrying a digital ID

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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 16:07

I suppose the obvious answer is that not everyone has a passport or/and a drivers license.
I don’t see an issue having lived in Germany where it is mandatory like most Euro countries to have one.

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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 16:16

In 2009 when this was last proposed the London School of Economics estimated the cost would be 18 billion.
There would be no requirement to carry an id card, or to produce one on demand.
Any small benefit in making things easier for people with no passport or driving licence to apply for stuff is far outweighed by the cost. A cost which will now be more than 18 billion.
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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 16:24

"Name one benefit of ID cards that a passport or driving licence doesn`t already provide."

Passports and Driving Licences are not compulsory and even if possessed there is no requirement to carry them.

An ID card would allow passengers to fly on domestic flights without the need for a passport etc.

Also when opening a bank account or taking a credit agreement the card would satisfy ID requirements.

In the UK they would solve a problem for police when wiseguy law breakers claim to have no identification.

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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Wed 3 Sep 22:42

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veteraneastender, Wed 3 Sept 16:24

"Name one benefit of ID cards that a passport or driving licence doesn`t already provide."

Passports and Driving Licences are not compulsory and even if possessed there is no requirement to carry them.
If it`s the same as proposed in 2009, there was to be no requirement to carry an ID card and no obligation to show an ID card

An ID card would allow passengers to fly on domestic flights without the need for a passport etc.
You can already use a driving licence, plus it`s always a good idea to use a passport when flying domestically incase of diversions, as happened recently when planes were diverted to mainland Europe, those travellers without passports couldn`t leave the airport, same would be true with ID card.

Also when opening a bank account or taking a credit agreement the card would satisfy ID requirements.
So does passport and drivers licence, even without those a birth certificate and 3 months of utility bills sent to your address can get you a bank account, which can then get you a credit agreement if you show you have funds, which would be required anyway with an ID card

In the UK they would solve a problem for police when wiseguy law breakers claim to have no identification.
As I said before, there will be no obligation to carry it and no right for anyone to demand to see it, police included.


The minute numbers who might benefit from this does not justify a bill of £18billion plus.

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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 4 Sep 00:33

I`ve set up various bank accounts digitally.
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 Re: National ID cards
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Thu 4 Sep 07:38

I called this, use the migrant situation to bring in digital id for all of us. Think about it, your id cancelled if deemed to say a hurty word.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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