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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:09
A tad busy today with last minute Christmas shopping so in Arbroath in spirit only (and a big jacket going by the weather!)
I’ll keep an eye on the other championship games today, too.
Team news coming soon.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 16:56)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:21
Dundee have cancelled their game v Aberdeen ten minutes ago. Aberdeen is under snow at this time so the fans set off earlier than normal. Absolutely disgraceful by DFC.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:27
Your team today :
1 Mehmet
2 Comrie
5 Hamilton (c)
12 Breen
23 O’Halloran
18 Allan
6 Otoo
3 Edwards
10 Todd
17 Moffat
11 McCann
Subs
20 Sharp
44 Little
8 Chalmers
9 Wighton
14 Jakubiak
16 Summers
19 Fenton
31 Sutherland
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 14:30)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:37
Arbroath
1 Gaston
2 Steele
3 Hamilton
5 O’Brien (c)
6 Slater
7 Gold
9 McIntosh
12 Stewart
16 Norey
24 Hylton
27 Byrd
Subs
Adams
Stowe
Lyon
Jacobs
Dunwald-Turan
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Sat 23 Dec 14:59
Quote:
buffy, Sat 23 Dec 14:21
Dundee have cancelled their game v Aberdeen ten minutes ago. Aberdeen is under snow at this time so the fans set off earlier than normal. Absolutely disgraceful by DFC.
Nae snow here in Aberdeen. Plenty of water though.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:04
Partick Thistle 1-1 ICT
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 15:18)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:20
We had the ball in the net but Lewis was offside
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:25
Arbroath with two attempts on goal
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:27
Hamilton
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:29
Chalmers on for Hanilton
Gaston just saved an effort from Todd
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:31
match stats, arbroath 4 shots on goal and 2 corners to our corner. Chalmers on for Chris - injury.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:33
Who the hell is playing at the back now? Breen and Otoo in a back 4? With Comrie as a back 3?
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:37
Would assume Otoo has dropped back with Chalmers on in midfield ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:41
McCann injured now too 🤷♂️
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:44
Jakubiak on for McCann
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:44
You couldn`t make it up regarding injuries to our players
Hamilton and McCann both off injured ,
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:48
wulliepar57 me and a couple of fans were talking about this very subject last week
Are we needing to have a look at our training methods .. our warm up .. sports science methods .. or are we just unlucky .. too many injuries for something not to be right .. only my opinion
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:49
Or the opposition are a dirty team? I’m not there to say otherwise.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:49
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 23 Dec 15:48
wulliepar57 me and a couple of fans were talking about this very subject last week
Are we needing to have a look at our training methods .. our warm up .. sports science methods .. or are we just unlucky .. too many injuries for something not to be right .. only my opinion
No two injuries have been the same,
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:51
Bird the scorer
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:52
More often than not, we are absolutely rotten.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:52
McCann off isn`t good although not in terms of scoring but in terms of work rate. Hamilton has been our best player of the season so far too.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 15:53)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:53
I know guys and only looking for answers .. I suppose when you factor in cheekbone injury and ahoulder injury that has nothing to do with training etc. thats more bad luck
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:53
I am like you buspasspar, for so many to get injured you would think it was down to our training methods or warm ups
looks like we need to be looking at this or in the January window we will need 11 new players to make sure we can field a team with the amount picking up injuries
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:55
Referee is letting Arbroath be aggressive, we need to match that, too powderpuff right now
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:58
Another absolutely shocking first 45.
Injuries or not, if we`re not competing and looking to be threatening here then what`s the point? Too many games like this.
Get this formation in the phuckin bin. When we do get the ball forward, immediately closed down, goes wide to the WB and then pushed back to the back 3. Utter guff.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: SAP PAR
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:58
We aren’t powderpuff we are respectful 😀
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:58
Anyone think our squad needs more depth -currently 4 points off second bottom.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:58
A friend just advised Arbroath have taken out 5 of our players over two games. Coincidence?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:58
Gutted Hamilton off, the only aggresive ball winner we have. Now we have chalmers and Allan in the middle and they couldn’t tackle a fish supper.
Now back to looking down the way and with half a squad fit. Hopefully a player or 2 lined up for coming in the day the window opens.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 15:59)
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 15:59
8 shots from arbroath to our 1.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:00
Big coincidence there buffy
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 16:02)
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:01
We are always powderpuff King Lad its nothing new , we usually get bullied all over the park !
Hopefully its a game of two halves and we actually come out and play second half
But if Arbroath have had 8 attempts at Goal 2 on target and 6 corners to our 1 attempt at goal and on target with 2 corners it certainly shows who is on the front foot !!
Certainly hope they get something in their drink at half time also kicking downhill 2nd half so hopefully we can get something out of the game
We seem to be guilty of late at losing a goal about half time , Partick was the same
Why do we always play crap the first half of games too ?? it seems to be a common scene
All teams around us are now starting to kick on and catch us up
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 16:06)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:17
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sat 23 Dec 16:00
Big coincidence there buffy
Hamilton one maybe but can`t blame opposing players for a hamstring.....
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:17
Jubi will get a hat trick.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:18
Need to get into them. They`re a bunch of hatchetmen.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:19
Wighton and Summers on for O’Halloran and Allan
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:22
Normally a good slagging does the job….
Pars could not score in a brothel…. Relegation battle looms.
Cue a goal for Pars in 5mins….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:26
13 shots to 2, can only get better
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:27
Quote:
desparado, Sat 23 Dec 16:22
Normally a good slagging does the job….
Pars could not score in a brothel…. Relegation battle looms.
Cue a goal for Pars in 5mins….
Absolutely. A good slagging always makes them play much better. Surprised McPake doesn`t just slag his players off before kick off. It would save us having to watch these off colour first halves.....
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:28
Think Desperado was having a wee giggle GG….
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:29
Woodwork to Arbroath`s rescue!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:30
COWs on X
“Moffat hits the post and Comrie sends the follow up wide of goal!”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:30
we have hit the post, do that a lot.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:32
More slagging. Worst team in the league. Rotten. Can hardly put two passes together. No chance of getting anything from this game. Utter embarrassment..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:33
We are good at hitting the woodwork though…. 14 times this season…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:33
I’m awa to watch It’s A Wonderful Life if we dinnae get a goal soon
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:35
Quote:
buffy, Sat 23 Dec 16:28
Think Desperado was having a wee giggle GG….
Aye, so was I. ☹️
Eta. Wid take a draw.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 16:36)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:37
Bird sent off for Arbroath
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:38
Bird... Red card...thugs!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:39
As things stand we look like the only team in the division to lose this weekend. And because every other team have drawn or are currently drawing, they will all gain on us by one point. So get yer act together lads and get the ba` in the net.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:45
Johnny Cash has just joined the forum
I feel a goal acomin
Its comin down the wing
Its in the top left corner
An hear those Pars fans sing
Another shot went past the goalposts
An hit an auld fans pie
When I heard the full time whistle
Ah hung ma head and cried
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 17:06)
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:48
I hope Wighton can hear me he has fired one right of the post and one left of the post , can he please hit the target and score next shot , right now i would take an OG
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:49
We are not going to score
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:50
has their keeper actually had a save to make ?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:53
Bet365 showing 1-1
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:53
1-1 Wighton
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:53
You were saying PA ?
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
Goallllllll
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: cfad
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
Quote:
Pars Athletic, Sat 23 Dec 16:49
We are not going to score
Yes we are!
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
always knew an equaliser was coming
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
Topic Originator: wulliepar57 like
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:48
I hope Wighton can hear me he has fired one right of the post and one left of the post , can he please hit the target and score next shot , right now i would take an OG
Lol
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
YESSSSS
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:54
Wighton loves a goal against Arbroath.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:55
Why oh why do some persist in mouthing off before the game is over 🤷
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:55
Aye a good slagging works…… sometimes 🤓
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: yorkiepar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:55
All you moanin` hoors on here. Just get tae. End of.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:55
"You were saying PA ?"
To be fair, it`s the only ti.e we do score is when someone makes statements like that, so it did have to be said...
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:58
Away to a recently rejuvenated Arbroath, two injuries, horrendous weather, not playing well…you take it all day and move on.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:58
eet that seems to be the trend the last few games poor first better second
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:59
Desperado Wighton must have heard me LOL
Happy to take a draw in the hinder end but looks like we could have won it also
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Sat 23 Dec 16:59
Wonder what JM going to say in his post match analysis tonight?
BCM
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:00
Something you probably won’t agree with, as usual?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:00
I have never slagged off the team at a game in my puff. But the stats were embarasing but got better the further the 2nd half went
We need to start off with a buzz, and maybe the starting line up tells us where the problems are.
Good to get a draw but might not have if there wasnt a sent off.
There is a player or two I think should not be favourites to start.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:01
Quote:
wetherby, Sat 23 Dec 15:58
Anyone think our squad needs more depth -currently 4 points off second bottom.
Alternatively we were 3 points clear in the playoff spot. Now 4 and 6 from the bottom battle.
Cheer up and have a great Christmas.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:06
Have to get their act together for Ayr game next week!
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:06
rejuvenated? they won one game.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:07
Massive goal, I know wighton doesn’t work himself into the ground but he’s the best striker we’ve got and he offers so much more as a striker than the likes of McCann and certainly jak.
If Hamilton is out for more than a week we need to bring in some reinforcements and decent ones.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:08
A point is a point. The team never gave up. Never an easy place to play. Job done today
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:08
Quote:
wulliepar57, Sat 23 Dec 16:59
Desperado Wighton must have heard me LOL
Happy to take a draw in the hinder end but looks like we could have won it also
Yer a genius Wullie
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:09
5 draws from 5 games. No damage done but maybe quite a boring league?
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Topic Originator: The moose
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:16
Quote:
buffy, Sat 23 Dec 17:00
Something you probably won’t agree with, as usual?
Buffy, I`ve got a right to my opinion but sometimes I wonder if he`s watching the same game. 😁
BCM
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:17
no matter what were 4th going into 2024 so well done lads and merrty xmas to all at east end and all pars fans
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:18
Badly needed that point today because with McGeady and Logan Chalmers running amok next week we will be lucky to get anything….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:34
Quote:
desparado, Sat 23 Dec 17:18
Badly needed that point today because with McGeady and Logan Chalmers running amok next week we will be lucky to get anything….
***** sakes
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:36
It was said tongue in cheek, glad it worked 😎🖤🤍❤️
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:40
Take the point 2 for the good sportsmanship
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:41
Quote:
The moose, Sat 23 Dec 17:16
Quote:
buffy, Sat 23 Dec 17:00
Something you probably won’t agree with, as usual?
Buffy, I`ve got a right to my opinion but sometimes I wonder if he`s watching the same game. 😁
Never said ye weren’t allowed an opinion.
As for your second point, in a way he doesn’t. He’s looking at the game as a manager, not a supporter. He’s trackside for 90 mins so he sees formations, tactics and game plans which probably change direction in every match. He can see faults, movement and ball watching from his team. Post match he is given stats, replays and opposing angles. I don’t envy him having to weigh up all of that information and give the supporters something to be positive about in a quick interview.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 23 Dec 17:58)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:45
Quote:
desparado, Sat 23 Dec 17:18
Badly needed that point today because with McGeady and Logan Chalmers running amok next week we will be lucky to get anything….
Do you ever say anything that isn`t negative mate?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:45
It`s not so long ago that we were losing to teams like Arbroath. We may not have played well, but it`s telling we are picking up points and scoring at the end of the game. Raith fans tell me the Rovers have been doing that for quite a few games this season and look where they are
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sat 23 Dec 17:53
amazingly its our home form thats holding us back only lost 2 away except for partick game havent been hammered in this league and last minute raith robbed us at kirkcaldy
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:12
Expected a win today but at least we didn’t lose as it sounds like we didn’t show up until the second half yet again. We badly need our injured players back and an few additions in January to improve the squad.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:15
Quote:
shellypar, Sat 23 Dec 17:45
Quote:
desparado, Sat 23 Dec 17:18
Badly needed that point today because with McGeady and Logan Chalmers running amok next week we will be lucky to get anything….
Do you ever say anything that isn`t negative mate?
No
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:26
Thought Arbroath were much better than when we played them previously, McIntyre has definitely got them going in the right direction. We struggled a lot, losing Hamilton really lessened our ability to be aggressive.
Bird turned our defence inside out time and time again. Barring their bizarre fight and sending off we were losing that game so you have to be happy with taking the point.
Moffat I thought was our best player, unfortunately we just couldn`t pass well enough to get a sustained spell in the game until we had the man advantage. Take the point and run, two defenders very much needing signed during the January transfer window.
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:27
Quote:
EastEndTales, Sat 23 Dec 16:56
Easy when it`s 10 men you`re up against.
Is it, aye??
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:32
Still 8 points clear of bottom, that`ll do 👍
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:33
Quote:
PARrot, Sat 23 Dec 17:01
Quote:
wetherby, Sat 23 Dec 15:58
Anyone think our squad needs more depth -currently 4 points off second bottom.
Alternatively we were 3 points clear in the playoff spot. Now 4 and 6 from the bottom battle.
Cheer up and have a great Christmas.
Bah, Humbug.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:01
Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Dec 18:15
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shellypar, Sat 23 Dec 17:45
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desparado, Sat 23 Dec 17:18
Badly needed that point today because with McGeady and Logan Chalmers running amok next week we will be lucky to get anything….
Do you ever say anything that isn`t negative mate?
No
Not true. I have predicted that we will stay up…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:03
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Gem 1977, Sat 23 Dec 18:27
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EastEndTales, Sat 23 Dec 16:56
Easy when it`s 10 men you`re up against.
Is it, aye??
To be on the front foot and pressing the game? Aye.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:28
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EastEndTales, Sat 23 Dec 19:03
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Gem 1977, Sat 23 Dec 18:27
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EastEndTales, Sat 23 Dec 16:56
Easy when it`s 10 men you`re up against.
Is it, aye??
To be on the front foot and pressing the game? Aye.
If you say so 👍
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:34
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Row_ZZ, Sat 23 Dec 16:58
Away to a recently rejuvenated Arbroath, two injuries, horrendous weather, not playing well…you take it all day and move on.
Horrendous weather?
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:39
Just back and can’t believe Santa gifted us an undeserved point. Awful performance from the get go. We need 2-3 experienced players in January if we are to move forward as a club. Don’t care what the happy clap crew say, the fans deserve a team that will sweat blood and tears.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 23 Dec 19:41
We certainly need more players now. Looks like two more out for a while ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 23 Dec 20:15
Very relieved to get the late goal. It was an important one, just to keep the wee gap we have to the teams below. And it means the comments about the game will be a bit less scathing.
But, let`s just call it as it is - that was utter mince from us today, almost from start to finish, and we were lucky to get a point.
I know we had two injuries and of course they make a difference but, regardless of that, I expect better from us. I don`t expect us to win any game but I do expect us to be competitive, be able to do the basics right and look to have some idea what we`re doing when we attack. We failed in every one of those and had we lost it would have been one that hurt, mainly because Arbroath just looked like they wanted to win more than we did. It`s not a criticism you can make of this Pars team very often but it really was an awful, gutless-looking effort of the sort you expect from a team at the bottom of the league.
I`ve come to the conclusion that our usual first half approach of slow and boring is simply to keep us fresh for the second half but today, there was no change in the second half. Even though a goal down, almost all of our play was tediously slow. Really, we had only one serious chance before we scored and that looked a sitter, though hard to say for sure from the far end of the ground.
Without Lewis McCann, we seemed to find it really difficult to show any aggression. McCann is an important player for us in that, but it surely can`t just be about one player.
Not sure what happened with O`too at their goal - looked like he should have been able to deal with the situation, then suddenly he`s been left behind with a huge space to attack. And nice that we equalised from a simple ball in from a corner after all the slow passing failed.
It`s one of those where I don`t think anyone will be very happy. I`m pleased we scored late to get a point but very unhappy with how we played, while Jim McIntyre must have been absolutely raging at full-time to not have won the game. It`s a close-run thing between today and the Ayr game, but I`d say today was (marginally) the worst we`ve played this season.
So, a good point given how we played, but can we please play better than that next week. And I should also add that despite us being poor as a team, Aaron Comrie had a good game. Probably the best game he`s had for a while and really the only one who seemed on his game today.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 20:27
But socks we nearly could have won that game .. Its fitbaw
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 23 Dec 20:37
Not good enough……….Far to many passengers.
Totally outplayed for 75mins. Arbroath were strolling it & the second goal was coming. A moments madness and we’re playing against 10 & the game turns.
Arbroath played a high line and we didn’t spring it once.
Play like that against Ayr/Raith & they will have a field day.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 21:29
I think McCanns running action is very tight, starting from the shoulders. He will be prone to hamstring injuries in my view. He may benefit from some tips/training with a sprint coach to change is running action, particularly when he is in full flight and stretching out.
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Sat 23 Dec 21:55
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Bannockburn Par, Sat 23 Dec 19:39
Just back and can’t believe Santa gifted us an undeserved point. Awful performance from the get go. We need 2-3 experienced players in January if we are to move forward as a club. Don’t care what the happy clap crew say, the fans deserve a team that will sweat blood and tears.
That last sentence has got be a joke right? Can’t say I’ve seen a pars team with as much passion for the badge in the last decade, a young team that will fight til the end even when playing pash.
Or are you too blinded by your unfounded opinion that we should be winning every week to understand that players aren’t going to play to their full potential when they’re playing out of position to compensate injuries?
Yes we may need signings to cover these but ffs can hardly say this team doesn’t give its blood, sweat and tears every week. We sit 4th despite all our issues this season but aye we need experience to compete, even though only 4 teams have been able to beat us, 3 of which are above us in the league and only ONCE out of 16 league games have we been beaten by more than 1 goal! In arguably the toughest league in the country. Maybe try praising the squad and management for achieving this position with the injury list growing almost weekly. I’m sure the 6 sides below us would happily swap places!
I’d even suggest that a 90 minute equaliser totally contradicts your statement. But then I’m a happy clapper for not wetting the bed and just being generally happy about where we are right now. Or maybe I’m just realistic. Have a few bevvys and enjoy yer Xmas, pars are 4th and doing more than fine in the circumstances. Nae need to panic.
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Topic Originator: 68guns
Date: Sat 23 Dec 22:14
Very poor today all over the park.
We have a pretty small squad and the loan signings we have made have made an impact but have themselves been plagued by injuries.
Think we need to sign a centre back with a bit experience in January either on loan or 6 month contract until the summer.
Appreciate that the team have been suffering from covid/flu for the past fortnight but it looked like they were keen not to pick up any injuries today and looked well off the pace. Still managed to pick up two saying that.
Cannot remember a match in which we lost as many 50/50 tackles and we really don`t have a settled formation because of the injuries we carry.
I think we have a good balanced team when everyone is fit but unfortunately that has not been the case all season and defensively we have no cover for playing the favoured three at the back without disrupting the midfield or team balance because of injuries to the preferred three either separately or all at once.
I`d be happy with one experienced defender and allow our out of position midfielders to return there.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Dec 22:18
Yes, very well said Niall, I`m looking forward to a great day out in Ayr next Saturday and 3 points is a distinct possibility. Fourth in the table at this stage is very acceptable. No ground gained today bu no ground lost. I doubt if I would have relished playing in such conditions at Arbroath today and well done to the lads for the point gained.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 22:34
Good Posts Niall and Paralex
Post Edited (Sun 24 Dec 17:54)
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Sat 23 Dec 22:44
Not sure why folk are talking about the conditions today . I didn`t think they were that bad . Dreich , aye , but I`ve been to many games that were played in much worse .
We were 2nd best all over the park in that 1st half and not a lot better in the 2nd . Take a draw and move on , but please Pars . Start playing at 3 o`clock , not 4 .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Sat 23 Dec 23:54
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Parsweep, Sat 23 Dec 22:44
Not sure why folk are talking about the conditions today . I didn`t think they were that bad . Dreich , aye , but I`ve been to many games that were played in much worse .
We were 2nd best all over the park in that 1st half and not a lot better in the 2nd . Take a draw and move on , but please Pars . Start playing at 3 o`clock , not 4 .
Yeah strange one. No wind and very light drizzle. Almost perfect conditions for a game of football. If you`re put off by playing in that it`s time for a new career.
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Sun 24 Dec 04:31
In January we need to be targeting a Craig Robertson, an ian McCall and a John Watson (or a Ross jack). Players that get stuck in and be effective.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sun 24 Dec 05:22
Craig Robertson, did he not come from the Rovers? John Watson came from a Hong Kong team, and Ian McCall was signed from Queen`s Park. Perhaps we should be scouring the lower leagues for someone currently scoring for fun.
We`d all be delighted with an Andy Smith; not a lot of style about him, but by God, he knew how to find the net!
Of course, for every budding Andy Smith out there, there are a dozen Kevin O`Haras.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 24 Dec 05:46
We absolutely and utterly robbed Arbroath of a win.
They had a couple of really good chances in the second half to make it 2 nil.
They had more guile, more positional sense, more passion and guts than we did. We looked lost.
Looking at the image of the goal Wighton seems to place his head where it can be hurt which is good and shows his real striker instinct.
There are some players who need to watch that horror show again over Christmas and have a think about their football.
My thoughts are teams get better confidence by grinding out results, but for some reason we just seem to be getting worse.
The under foot conditions were poor. When Mehmet went to collect a ball, his foot sank into a spongy went piece of turf.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 24 Dec 08:21
Great post, Niall.
Perhaps we got an undeserved point yesterday, but why make a big deal about it? There have been numerous other occasions when we didn`t deserve to lose but did. No doubt it will happen again in the future.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 Dec 08:28
I wasn`t at the game so can`t comment on the performance and these are just random thoughts.
We scored from a corner which has been rare this season; another assist from Chalmers and a goal from Wighton. Their detractors will be pleased!
Playing against 10 men who have something to hold on to is never easy in my experience and scoring a winner or equaliser in added time used to be a cause for celebration.
The fact that all five games in the Championship were drawn this weekend just illustrates how competitive this league is and every point`s a prisoner.
For some the only answer to a setback seems to be to recruit more players but the coaching staff are there to improve players too.
How did Mehmet play after all the predictions of doom after last week? Did he have any chance with the goal?
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Sun 24 Dec 08:49
Good Post Niall,
I missed the first 20 mins odd as I only got back home at right at kick off to find Pars TV weren`t able to stream and after getting the Arbroath TV feed this often dropped or buffered or had terrible resolution for quite a bit of the first half. From what I saw of the rest of the game I thought Arbroath were much improved. They recently also beat Airdrie 4-0. Some credit is due to them for the effort they put in. However, I wonder how the game would have panned out with a different referee who was less tolerant of Arbroath`s physical play. The ref yesterday let them get away with constant pulling back of our players which on a few occasions let them get the better of our defenders by unbalancing them (such as Bird on Otoo ). We are quite a small team and they seemed to bully us quite a bit. It was unfortunate that Hamilton had to go off as I think Otoo is best in a more forward role rather than at the back. However he has a great attitude. I must be the odd one out here because, while delighted to get at least a point which our onslaught at the end of the game deserved, we did have some great chances to score, but once again failed to take them and once again the post came to the rescue of the opposition. We could and maybe even should have come away with three points. The thing that really has impressed me about this lot of players is that they never give up. It obviously helped us enormously that Bird got himself sent off (as he was proving to be a handful and threat), but from that point on I thought we battered them and created enough to win the game (even if that would perhaps have been undeserved over the whole game as I see from the stats they had 8 shouts to our 1 in the first half (and I missed quite a bit if that). If Bird hadn`t got sent off then perhaps Arbroath would have seen out the game and deservedly taken all three points. However, given what happened and our response to them going down to 10 men Arbroath were just hanging on at the end. Sometimes we only really seem to get going in the second half. As ever our achilles heel - lack of composure and poor finishing in front of goal and not having someone in the right place to attack good balls in cost us. We have certainly suffered an incredible number of injuries this season and another two yesterday is not good news.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 24 Dec 10:15
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RhinoPars, Sun 24 Dec 08:49
Good Post Niall,
I missed the first 20 mins odd as I only got back home at right at kick off to find Pars TV weren`t able to stream and after getting the Arbroath TV feed this often dropped or buffered or had terrible resolution for quite a bit of the first half. From what I saw of the rest of the game I thought Arbroath were much improved. They recently also beat Airdrie 4-0. Some credit is due to them for the effort they put in. However, I wonder how the game would have panned out with a different referee who was less tolerant of Arbroath`s physical play. The ref yesterday let them get away with constant pulling back of our players which on a few occasions let them get the better of our defenders by unbalancing them (such as Bird on Otoo ). We are quite a small team and they seemed to bully us quite a bit. It was unfortunate that Hamilton had to go off as I think Otoo is best in a more forward role rather than at the back. However he has a great attitude. I must be the odd one out here because, while delighted to get at least a point which our onslaught at the end of the game deserved, we did have some great chances to score, but once again failed to take them and once again the post came to the rescue of the opposition. We could and maybe even should have come away with three points. The thing that really has impressed me about this lot of players is that they never give up. It obviously helped us enormously that Bird got himself sent off (as he was proving to be a handful and threat), but from that point on I thought we battered them and created enough to win the game (even if that would perhaps have been undeserved over the whole game as I see from the stats they had 8 shouts to our 1 in the first half (and I missed quite a bit if that). If Bird hadn`t got sent off then perhaps Arbroath would have seen out the game and deservedly taken all three points. However, given what happened and our response to them going down to 10 men Arbroath were just hanging on at the end. Sometimes we only really seem to get going in the second half. As ever our achilles heel - lack of composure and poor finishing in front of goal and not having someone in the right place to attack good balls in cost us. We have certainly suffered an incredible number of injuries this season and another two yesterday is not good news.
Another good, sensible post. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 24 Dec 11:53
So the Arbroath player gets sent off for fighting with a fellow player???
Bizarre!!!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 24 Dec 12:27
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DunPar, Sun 24 Dec 04:31
In January we need to be targeting a Craig Robertson, an ian McCall and a John Watson (or a Ross jack). Players that get stuck in and be effective.
I`m all for experience but I think you`re taking things a bit far 😉
Our best bet is to take a look at clubs with good performing players but short on cash.
Like has happened with us, I suspect the success of clubs like Raith will mean teams in the Premier will come looking to steal their players. I read they were discussing contracts but a player like Easton would be off to the likes of Dundee or Hibs in a shot if a contract offer came in.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 24 Dec 14:32
It’s becoming a bit repetitive – poor first halves and injuries. Different players injured this time and we had a poor second half as well. Who had “Hammy and a hammy” on their Pars Injury Bingo Card?
I think Hamilton tends to go with his head where a taller player goes with his boot so incidents are inevitable. Luckily the stretcher wasn’t needed – is there some sort of protocol which means that the stretcher party always has to walk slowly even without a patient to carry?
McCann seemed to be walking fairly freely on his way off; hopefully he’s not too bad, but contact injuries are one thing, it’s a tad concerning when you are getting pulls and tears when there is no-one around.
The Hamilton injury certainly meant the game plan had to be torn up, but we seemed light in attacking options. You can’t blame the conditions – Gayfield seemed much calmer and drier than most of the journey up (and what was going on in Dundee? Christmas shoppers or Dons fans turning round?) I got to my seat just in time for kick-off. At least the ref had the courtesy to restart when he saw I wasn’t quite ready.
I’m not sure where Todd was meant to be playing to begin with. O’Halloran doesn’t seem comfortable with being wing-back, particularly the defensive aspect – he seems to hang back too much for me. Ironically, he was hooked after our best move of the match. It was an interesting call putting Todd there – he was a revelation when Hughes tried him there after Comrie got sent off at Killie and he has barely looked back, but too often he seemed to be in acres of space but we chose to go down the left instead. I think Moffat should score when he hits the post, and Comrie missed another sitter (and he knew it).
I don’t think I’ve ever seen two players from the same team fighting before. Hogg and Levein at Hearts and Batty and Le Saux at Blackburn are the famous examples. I’d looked away and so couldn’t see which Pars player Breen was trying to restrain – then I realised there wasn’t one. The ref bottled it a bit – I think he could have shown at least one straight red.
There were some positives – getting a point, obviously. The lack of celebration when we scored – just the players running back to get on with the game and chase a winner, even that late. Maybe we can threaten more from corners?
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 24 Dec 15:04
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McCaig`s Tower, Sun 24 Dec 14:32
is there some sort of protocol which means that the stretcher party always has to walk slowly even without a patient to carry?
I`m guessing it`s part of their training, that they`re told to walk unless someone`s life is in danger. No point in running, falling over and being injured themselves or damaging equipment.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 24 Dec 15:12
The posts since the game finished on this thread make for quite an odd read. The posts from people who actually saw the game and who have comments to make directly in relation to the game are mainly quite critical, while those that don`t have anything to say about the game are generally critical of people being critical.
We even have the absurd comments, from people who saw nothing of the game, using difficult weather conditions as mitigation for playing poorly. Very strange, when everyone who was at the game knows that conditions were fine with hardly any wind all game.
If you haven`t seen the game, it`s absolutely fair to ask a question as wee eck does about Mehmet (my answer to that is that he was absolutely fine, and dealt well with a first half corner right on top of him that he did well to catch). But why do others need to have a go, with nothing of their own to contribute? I like talking about Pars games afterwards - I like to hear what others who have seen the game think about it and hope that those who haven`t been able to see it might be interested in the views of those who have, to get an idea of what the game was like. But, when I see a thread like this, I do wonder if there`s any point. Why do some people who haven`t seen a game feel entitled to an opinion on it?
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Topic Originator: DeeMan
Date: Sun 24 Dec 15:32
Dundee reckoned the pitch was playable. It was ref who called the game off. Ref could easily have allowed a later kick-off, or does that just happen when The Rangers turn up late?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 24 Dec 15:46
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fcda, Sun 24 Dec 15:04
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McCaig`s Tower, Sun 24 Dec 14:32
is there some sort of protocol which means that the stretcher party always has to walk slowly even without a patient to carry?
I`m guessing it`s part of their training, that they`re told to walk unless someone`s life is in danger. No point in running, falling over and being injured themselves or damaging equipment.
I think that are not allowed to run ,it`s an HSE requirements
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 Dec 17:10
Socks I didn`t go yesterday so not once have I commented on the performance. If those who were at the game say we were garbage that`s fair enough. I`m not going to argue.
What I can`t get my head around is those on this forum who refuse point blank to take anything positive from scoring in the 91st minute to rescue a point. When Raith do it they show resilience, fighting spirit, never say die etc. When we do it, we "steal a point", "robbed Arbroath" etc. Anyone know why there are fans of The Pars who are so negative, so dismissive of their own team?
I mean Desparado already has us getting humped the next 2 games! I just don`t understand it!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 24 Dec 17:29
“What I can`t get my head around is those on this forum who refuse point blank to take anything positive from scoring in the 91st minute to rescue a point. “
Please, please find one post from a fan who says they were unhappy wighton scored?
Those that did go to the game are largely in agreement including our manager that the performance wasn’t good enough and the red from arbroath was a major reason for our ability to get a point. Why are you so raging about that when you can’t even bother to go to the game?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 24 Dec 17:45
Tbf you don’t know why da no 1 wasn’t at the game yesterday so the last part of your post isn’t needed imo.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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