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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:17
0-1 Rudden scores for QP
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:18
Too easy.
Simple cross from corner, headed down, tap in from a yard
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Topic Originator: incognito
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:18
Stats suggest they are all over us after 15 mins.
Another turgid weekend fighting for scraps.
Class.
"Did you see what happened to the magic car?
It turned into a street!"
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:23
The defending was awful, we lack cutting edge and creativity. How much longer have we got under Mcfail….lose today he should be gone…enough is enough
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:24
Dire so far. It’s like a pre season friendly with very little urgency from the Pars.
Typical start though…….just so flat…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:26
Denying a goal scoring opportunity is usually a red ? We were lucky there but terrible ball from Wetherspoon..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:32
The amount of respect we`re giving them you`d think we were playing Real Madrid.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:33
Has mcpake lost the dressing room? Surely someone else would get more from this group?
We have to not lose this, if we do mcpake needs to be on a shoogly peg, he won’t be tho.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:33
The ref is their 12th man... has not given us anything.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:38
Nothing wrong with the ref. We are just guff..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:51
Another 45 mins without a decent chance being created. Absolute dross…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:53
McFake out?
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:54
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 28 Sept 15:53
McFake out?
2nd to every ball. No effort whatsoever on show. Slow and ponderous on the ball.
Can only get better.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:54
We continue to create next to nothing. Kane is isolated up top. Poor goal to lose. All to do in the 2nd half.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:55
If Hamiton plays another back pass ,hook him,
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:57
Change of something needed at HT. Absolutely terrible no attacking threat whatsoever. Bring Cooper on at least he knows the way forward. Fingers out Pars.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:57
He wanted us to come out on the front foot, we have been the COMPLETE opposite! This is absolutely honking stuff today
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:59
Haven’t had a shot on goal.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 28 Sep 15:59
No width, no creativity and no clue. McPake set the squad up extremely negative and it’s showed. We are useless and looks like we’re bringing on Chalmers to help us get a goal… Definitely looks like McPake’s time is nearing an end. The amount we’ve challenged the opposition goalkeeper this season is shocking. Why don’t we try Sutherland up front with Kane?
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:02
Quote:
desparado, Sat 28 Sept 15:26
Denying a goal scoring opportunity is usually a red ? We were lucky there but terrible ball from Wetherspoon..
It`s not a red as he made a genuine attempt to play the ball. Ref got it spot on
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Topic Originator: 2004Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:05
Interesting half time subs.
Rory Adair
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:07
Not at the game today but reading posts and BBC website we are dire so I have dodged a bullet there
I honestly think we have the players in our team that should be doing much better than what we get served up week in week out !
Is it tactics and the slow way we play to the front ?
I would hate to be one of our forwards as they have to feed off scraps week in week out because our midfield are too slow in getting the ball up the park , too much tippy tappy stuff across the way and back the way , never forward
We need to get the finger oot !!
We need to get right in their faces and turn this around ! ( miracles can happen )
and we need to actually get the shot ratio up and on target too
Cmon Ye Pars I am getting pi55ed off with the same old crap every week
Forgot to add , as it stands we are the strongest team in the league , we are at the bottom holding everyone up
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 16:14)
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:07
They are passing around us without any challenges going in…
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Topic Originator: fergie
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:12
Quote:
desparado, Sat 28 Sept 15:38
Nothing wrong with the ref. We are just guff..
The ref is as guff as us unfortunately
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:15
**** me, we are ****** brutal
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 16:16)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:16
There can be no defending this performance so far. We`re terrible
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:18
"It`s not a red as he made a genuine attempt to play the ball. Ref got it spot on."
That`s only for a penalty?
There was another centre half on the cover and the ball wasn`t out his feet so it wasn`t guaranteeing a clear goalscoring opportunity.
We are dung. Could have taken about 6 or 7 of them off at half time.
Keeper static at the goal.
Whole back four looked all at sea.
Clay and Hamilton trying to dictate play when they can`t pass the ball or progress it forward.
McCann and Wotherspoon awful.
Todd trying to go it by himself but nowhere near fit (haven`t they learned about the dangers of rushing people back so quick?)
Kane isolated up top but when he goes get the ball ot bounces off him and goes 20 yards away.
Passing has been woeful - either the wrong pace or the wrong option taken. Positionally we have been all over the place and that was before the change of shape at the break. The pressingnand energy from the Raith game isn`t there, the fight isn`t there, the quality isn`t there. Going back to the bottom of the league as it stands.
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:18
3 shots zero on target. a recurring theme this season. for the opponents to have over 60% possession is shocking
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:19
Another corner, another unchallenged header, and a goal
Too easy
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:20
0-2. FFS annecorother
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:20
Hahahahahahaha.
I`m laughing. That "defending". Wow. Just relegated us now. Making a very ordinary team look like world beaters. Have they even got out of second gear?
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:21
Free header inside the six yard box?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:21
For once we agree da no 1.
Something has got to change. Mcpake come in, your time is up.
Don’t mind getting beat so long as we’ve given it a good go. We haven’t. Too many of those players are out of their depth at this level and are only heading down the way, whether that’s with us or those next club.
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 16:26)
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:22
We’re not even trying. Zero effort. It’s absolutely embarrassing.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:24
can someone tell our keeper he is alliwed to come for cross balls at corners ffs ,Sunday league basics ,currently back bottom of the league 7 games played 4 points
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:34
Sack this clown by 6 pm and start looking for a manager who can adapt his team to overcome the **** we are playing against in this league
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:36
Still no shots on target…..and I believe we are actually trying now. We are just absolutely rotten..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:36
Well there’s one !
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:38
Mon Pars
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:39
Cooper is the only signing mcpake has made in 2 years who appears capable of running forward with the ball at this level.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:42
Quote:
87Par, Sat 28 Sept 15:57
Change of something needed at HT. Absolutely terrible no attacking threat whatsoever. Bring Cooper on at least he knows the way forward. Fingers out Pars.
What can I say eh
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:44
Was a lovely goal. Not sure why we waited until we were 2 goals down to think about getting forward though. We`ve looked like we could create if we get forward, so it`s baffling and frustrating that we didn`t start on the front foot in a winnable home game.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:50
Kelty could it be because it’s been drilled into them to sit tight and get to 70 mins at 0-0 then let’s see if we can sneak one?
That’s the mcpake way
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:57
Certainly looks that way although we started on the front foot v the Rovers. A bit unlucky not to get something at the end there which makes it all the worse imo. Cowardly behaviour from the manager.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:58
So angry just now.
JM simply has to go after that utter dross
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 28 Sep 16:59
Well it`s a basement battle next week !
And I already think I know who will come out on top !
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:13
QP we`re the better side. They were much more ambitious going forward with better movement off the ball. I think we had one attempt in the first half that wasn`t on target. QP deserved their first hal lead. QP came out in the 2nd half as if they were the team a goal down. No surprise really when they went 2 up. We never looked positive going forward, stray passes and too many sideways or backwards passes, I thought. You can`t wait for 70 minutes to start to put the opposition under pressure especially when two goals down. Alot of effort but we lack invention and cutting edge.
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:15
What the hell do they practice in training all week?
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 20:37)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:24
Too little too late. Why wait until we are two down to show some fight and urgency ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:27
They practice defending and keep ball during the week.
Look at who our attacking players are, someone who has never produced at this level and someone who hasn’t got the legs for this level anymore. Cooper looks like a possible rare success story but of course will be benched as not defensive enough.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:28
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 17:24
Too little too late. Why wait until we are two down to show some fight and urgency ?
Because the opposition takes the foot off the gas and allow us to play,
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:35
McPake needs to go.
Team looks clueless as to what they are supposed to be doing, Matt Todd should not have started that game as he is no way near ready, KRH should not started.
McPake is clueless.
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:44
Total crap all round
nazpar
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 17:45)
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Topic Originator: nazpar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:45
Totally crap all round
nazpar
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:46
Just heard him post match same generic statements .. didn’t start well
Etc etc .. he went on about how we were going to come
Out the traps quick etc so how does it go so wrong?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:50
Thinking I’ll make up some post match mcpake bingo cards….
Featuring such hits like - Been great in training this week, thought we were unlucky, didn’t start well, we need to stop conceding poor goals, struggling with injuries etc etc
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 28 Sep 17:59
We were embarrassing for 78 minutes. We leave the only striker in our club scoring goals left on the bench. Goodbye Mr mcpake.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 28 Sep 18:26
Unbelievably bad , worst team in league and look like the most unfit team also, didn,t start to play until last 20 mins , where do other teams get these players that can actually beat a man. shameful display
G.B
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 28 Sep 18:34
It was pretty grim but we should still have got something from the game once we went for it. Strong claims for a penalty when a hand blocked a shot heading for goal.
Two of the subs made a huge difference and changed the dynamics and led to our goal.
Defending was poor at the corners but whose fault is that?
Very frustrating with an awful first half.
Dont see McPake going anywhere. Some players need a good dose of confidence.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 28 Sep 18:54
Not much data to go on, but with Mehmet in goals we`ve lost every game but the Spartans match. With Tobi, we are unbeaten, including a draw against the team top of the division... Is the goalkeeper the problem?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:01
Quote:
d3monstrate, Sat 28 Sept 18:54
Not much data to go on, but with Mehmet in goals we`ve lost every game but the Spartans match. With Tobi, we are unbeaten, including a draw against the team top of the division... Is the goalkeeper the problem?
He wasn`t today. The other 10 in front of him were.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:12
Mehmet is a big part in the reason we lose so many goals from set pieces. Also with 2 ex defenders in the management team we should be drilled better at them. Aside from that we are absolutely awful to watch, we show no attacking intent unless we are chasing the game with 15 minutes to go. I`m not sure anyone got pass marks today. Maybe Comrie, Cooper and Joe chalmers did OK when he came on. At least he tried to play a bit of football, the rest was just hoof ball up to Mcann and Kane who has become very soft when holding the ball up. Always falls over looking for a free kick when there is the slightest touch.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:14
Quote:
Pars Athletic, Sat 28 Sept 19:12
Mehmet is a big part in the reason we lose so many goals from set pieces. Also with 2 ex defenders in the management team we should be drilled better at them. Aside from that we are absolutely awful to watch, we show no attacking intent unless we are chasing the game with 15 minutes to go. I`m not sure anyone got pass marks today. Maybe Comrie, Cooper and Joe chalmers did OK when he came on. At least he tried to play a bit of football, the rest was just hoof ball up to Mcann and Kane who has become very soft when holding the ball up. Always falls over looking for a free kick when there is the slightest touch.
Kane was nothing short of an embarrassment today just throwing himself to the ground.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:14
Quote:
d3monstrate, Sat 28 Sep 18:54
Not much data to go on, but with Mehmet in goals we`ve lost every game but the Spartans match. With Tobi, we are unbeaten, including a draw against the team top of the division... Is the goalkeeper the problem?
Mehmet does not command his box. Static on the goal line for corners. Has us playing from the back. Palms the ball into dangerous positions.
Tobi gets us up the park on the front foot. The contrast is clear for everyone to see.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:36
Quote:
summeragent, Sat 28 Sep 19:14
Quote:
d3monstrate, Sat 28 Sep 18:54
Not much data to go on, but with Mehmet in goals we`ve lost every game but the Spartans match. With Tobi, we are unbeaten, including a draw against the team top of the division... Is the goalkeeper the problem?
Mehmet does not command his box. Static on the goal line for corners. Has us playing from the back. Palms the ball into dangerous positions.
Tobi gets us up the park on the front foot. The contrast is clear for everyone to see.
Was gutting when I seen the team. The difference is massive. Not a fan of the ironic cheers or booing him when he was named in starting line up though. Doesn’t help at all.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: evo!
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:50
I felt u easy on seeing Mehmet starting, and yet until about the 70th minute I felt he had been out best player.
Not one player beat a man, drove at pace, foneted a pass, won a 50/50 until that moment at 2 nil down where we had the penalty shout..couldn`t tell you it all happened so fast.
After that we played well, and perhaps we`re unlucky not to score again.
Having said that, I`ve no argument with the result, good for the final 20 mins ai t enough.
Frustratingly, I felt we offered more interest hat 20 mi s than queens park in the first 70. Outside the two goals they only had I think 2-3 other chances. They passed and moved well and made us look amateur by comparison, but I can`t help but think if we started the game like the way we finished it, we would have won it..so frustrating
BEAST!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:52
Was that Mebude doing some exercises before kick-off? He didn`t look too fit!
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:55
Lets beat Airdrie next week.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:09
Topic Originator: evo! like
Date: Sat 28 Sep 19:50
I felt u easy on seeing Mehmet starting, and yet until about the 70th minute I felt he had been out best player.
Not one player beat a man, drove at pace, foneted a pass, won a 50/50 until that moment at 2 nil down where we had the penalty shout..couldn`t tell you it all happened so fast.
After that we played well, and perhaps we`re unlucky not to score again.
Having said that, I`ve no argument with the result, good for the final 20 mins ai t enough.
Frustratingly, I felt we offered more interest hat 20 mi s than queens park in the first 70. Outside the two goals they only had I think 2-3 other chances. They passed and moved well and made us look amateur by comparison, but I can`t help but think if we started the game like the way we finished it, we would have won it..so frustrating
We did not play well last 20mins. We were on the front foot granted, but only because a very, very average team were gifted two goals and decided to shut up shop against a team that has no idea how to break a team down.
We were , utterly, utterly dreadful from the first minute to the last, complete garbage.
Kane…a donkey. Wighton….a donkey. KRH….yeah great ball rolls mate but nothing else. Mcann. I will save my breath. We have no one in the team that is capable of beating a man or making a decisive defence splitting pass, unless you count Wetherspoons defence splitting pass…….to QP.
It’s beyond a joke, beyond embarrassing .
I am actually beginning to thing that this is the most useless, pathetic team I have ever seen at EEP and that’s saying something.
But, we will still have the eternal optimists telling us that we are on the right track , just give it time, we are only seven games in etc , etc.
It’s absolute crap just now.
If we don’t win next week……he has to go, no ifs, no buts………gone !
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:24
I think we need to set our stall out to win games. I don`t know if it`s me but sometimes i think we give the opposition too much respect. When we pressured the QP defence they made mistakes or panicked. We didn`t do that until the last 20 minutes of the game when in reality the game was over. That suggests to me that it is more about having an attacking mindset. We have become too negative with one touch too many, not looking up or looking forward for an early pass. That was the difference in the teams. QP had more vision moving the ball, got into spaces, passed the ball quickly and always looked to move the ball forward.
I felt heads went down when we lost the first goal and we only tried to score when we lost the second goal.
Some self-belief needs to be instilled in the players, and we need to play at a level where the opposition worries about us, not the other way around. If you pressure the opposition, they think twice about opening up and coming forward. It`s as much physiology as anything else. Positive mental attitude.
I also don't understand why we don't go through the middle more and run at the central defence. Kane holding the ball with his back to goal isn't working and is too predicable in my view.
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 22:35)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:34
Just imo if a team has a good spine then you can add but I don’t think they trust Mehmet in goals…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:43
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 28 Sep 20:34
Just imo if a team has a good spine then you can add but I don’t think they trust Mehmet in goals…
Think Mehmet slows the pace, doesn’t command his area and thereby puts pressure on his defence. We play much deeper when he is in goal.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:49
You can hardly blame Mehmet for the lack of an attacking threat. Oh, I forgot, this is .net - it`s easier to blame one player for all the team`s faults.
One (of many) thing that puzzled me was replacing Young with KRH about 5 minutes into the second half and moving Otoo (who was clearly struggling with an injury) to LCB. Mind you Otoo with an injury was still more effective than a lot of his team-mates.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 20:50
Indiapar…..it’s the managers job to set our stall out. He fails miserably to do so most games.
Making three subs at HT is an admission of failure. We were only 0-1 down but it was probably to do with the fact that we never laid a glove on them in the first 45……we very rarely do tbh.
Against Ayr it took a great strike from Otoo, and against Raith it took a massive deflection……we don’t not look like scoring in any frigging game we play.
There is no more to say. If we lose next week he has to go.
I honestly believe that Chris Hamilton could pick the team and tactics next week and we could have nobody at all in the dug out and we would perform better…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:00
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 28 Sep 20:49
You can hardly blame Mehmet for the lack of an attacking threat. Oh, I forgot, this is .net - it`s easier to blame one player for all the team`s faults.
One (of many) thing that puzzled me was replacing Young with KRH about 5 minutes into the second half and moving Otoo (who was clearly struggling with an injury) to LCB. Mind you Otoo with an injury was still more effective than a lot of his team-mates.
Young was injured too. We noticed before ht he was struggling. Must have been giving it 5 to see if he could run it off.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:40
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
Chalmers
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:40
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Sep 21:40
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
Chalmers
agree Chalmers
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:43
MoM Ewan Otoo even playing injured was our best performer, Joe Chalmers was an improvement but that wasn`t a high bar .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:59
In his post-match interview McPake said he subbed KRH for Young to bring on another attacking player, nothing to do with injury apparently. Why not do it at half-time?
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:01
You can only make 3 subs at any one time
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:02
Problem is now we have to many players that are just pihs and they are all seeing their contracts out?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:05
Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:40
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Sep 21:40
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
Chalmers
agree Chalmers
Lol….so when he got caught in possession at the edge of our own box he gets mom….really. The guy is a complete donkey. Mom for me………probably Aaron Comrie…….Chalmers 😂
Post Edited (Sat 28 Sep 22:06)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:08
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desparado, Sat 28 Sept 22:05
Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:40
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Sep 21:40
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
Chalmers
agree Chalmers
Lol….so when he got caught in possession at the edge of our own box he gets mom….really. They guy is a complete donkey. Mom for me………probably Aaron Comrie…….Chalmers 😂
Yes he played well regardless of your blinkered view of him.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:17
Not the case parsfan97. He could have changed all five at half time if he wanted. To be fair there were about 6 or 7 we could have replaced. It was almost like he saw the back three then suddenly remembered that there wasn`t a left footed centre back in the three!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:43
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desparado, Sat 28 Sept 20:50
Indiapar…..it’s the managers job to set our stall out. He fails miserably to do so most games.
Making three subs at HT is an admission of failure. We were only 0-1 down but it was probably to do with the fact that we never laid a glove on them in the first 45……we very rarely do tbh.
Against Ayr it took a great strike from Otoo, and against Raith it took a massive deflection……we don’t not look like scoring in any frigging game we play.
There is no more to say. If we lose next week he has to go.
I honestly believe that Chris Hamilton could pick the team and tactics next week and we could have nobody at all in the dug out and we would perform better…..
Desperado
Yes I agree. You have to set yourself up to go out and try and win the game and score goals. That`s the point of the game after all. It`s not to not lose the game. We are too defensive such tgat when we need to score goals, we don`t have the tools in the locker to do it, including having the confidence that we can. It doesn`t matter how many goals you lose as long as you score one more than the opposition. The defensive approach isn`t working so may as well go out and play attacking football and build confidence. It`s one thing to lose a game when you are playing defensive football for 90 minutes, it`s another to lose a game whilst trying to win it by playing attacking football. At least you would get the fans behind you. Today it was very flat I thought with an air of inevitability coming from the home support.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:06
Never saw Joe putting a foot wrong at all. Thought he wore the captain’s armband pretty well.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:09
Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 22:08
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desparado, Sat 28 Sept 22:05
Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Sep 21:40
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Sep 21:40
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 28 Sept 21:32
Hard to pick a MOM today
Chalmers
agree Chalmers
Lol….so when he got caught in possession at the edge of our own box he gets mom….really. They guy is a complete donkey. Mom for me………probably Aaron Comrie…….Chalmers 😂
Yes he played well regardless of your blinkered view of him.
My blinkered view is that the guy is absolutely garbage and probably one of the worst if not thee worst players ever to wear the arm band.
It’s time to stop pussy footing around and start calling a spade a spade. We have a team full of lazy players , of average ability coached by imposters.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:16
He’s not absolute garbage. That’s utter tosh.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:25
Who called desparado.....23.09 with the "lazy" shout.
Absolute nugget!
One thing these players aren`t is lazy.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:26
Topic Originator: buffy like
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:16
He’s not absolute garbage. That’s utter tosh.
I beg to differ. He is lazy, one paced and could not tackle a fish supper. He plays about one decent forward pass every game ….. and that’s it. The rest is just backwards or sideways. As long as he is involved in our team we will struggle.
Compare him to the likes of Broen or Stanton at Rovers…… that’s our problem, lazy and complete useless…. Sorry I have had enough of these imposters wearing our shirt….no passion no desire ….. nothing and the sooner they f*** off the better…ok he has nice hair….. and that’s about it…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:28
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desparado, Sat 28 Sept 23:26
Topic Originator: buffy like
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:16
He’s not absolute garbage. That’s utter tosh.
I beg to differ. He is lazy, one paced and could not tackle a fish supper. He plays about one decent forward pass every game ….. and that’s it. The rest is just backwards or sideways. As long as he is involved in our team we will struggle.
Compare him to the likes of Broen or Stanton at Rovers…… that’s our problem, lazy and complete useless…. Sorry I have had enough of these imposters wearing our shirt….no passion no desire ….. nothing and the sooner they f*** off the better…ok he has nice hair….. and that’s about it…
Bedtime
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:40
Not yet…. Just pissed off we have so many inept players st our club…..and tubes like you that think it is ok…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Sep 23:46
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desparado, Sat 28 Sept 23:40
Not yet…. Just pissed off we have so many inept players st our club…..and tubes like you that think it is ok…..
Find me a post tonight where I`ve said today`s performance was acceptable. Just one. Go on.
I`ll be here waiting.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:06
It`s hard to understand how anyone could accuse Chalmers of being lazy. He certainly has his faults but he hardly stops running and is always making himself available for the ball. I would say he was one of the reasons we improved in the second half. He was much more effective than Hammy was in the first half.
McCann`s another one who is often accused of being lazy but he is a willing runner, admittedly sometimes to no effect, but he doesn`t hide.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:08
Taylor Sutherland must wonder what he had to do to get a run out?
Needing a goal and he’s kicking his heels on the bench.
Baffling
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:18
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:06
It`s hard to understand how anyone could accuse Chalmers of being lazy. He certainly has his faults but he hardly stops running and is always making himself available for the ball. I would say he was one of the reasons we improved in the second half. He was much more effective than Hammy was in the first half.
McCann`s another one who is often accused of being lazy but he is a willing runner, admittedly sometimes to no effect, but he doesn`t hide.
Really? I can’t remember ever seeing Chalmers running. He is in perpetual jog mode.
It’s ok guys, paper over the cracks all you want but as long as these players are pulling a jersey on we are destined to be at or near the bottom, and as long as we have these lazy…yes LAZY players then we are in serious trouble..I do t think Chalmers even broke sweat today when he came on……….Captain? God help us…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:20
You know nothing about football.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:20
Yeah, we get it. You don`t like him.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:41
Sad thing is, it`s hard to disagree with a lot of what Desparado says.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 29 Sep 00:48
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MikeyLeonard, Sun 29 Sept 00:41
Sad thing is, it`s hard to disagree with a lot of what Desparado says.
It really isn`t.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 29 Sep 02:41
First time I’ve been called a tube on dotnet. 😔
I wasn’t happy with the performance today either and haven’t hid from saying it. I just didn’t agree with your opinion on Chalmers.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sun 29 Sep 03:06
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da_no_1, Sun 29 Sep 00:48
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MikeyLeonard, Sun 29 Sept 00:41
Sad thing is, it`s hard to disagree with a lot of what Desparado says.
It really isn`t.
I guess its all about opinions da.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 29 Sep 06:38
desparado ,have you ever played the game at any level ,
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Sun 29 Sep 06:51
I think we did improve when Chalmers came on and that in itself is worrying - I know he’s popular but Hamilton for me is an issue - he’s a bombscare with the ball at his feet and offers nothing going forward. I’d play Wotherspoon in the role Chalmers played second half - Otto needs to be in midfield, Cooper needs to start and we desperately need the keeper back.
Andy
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 29 Sep 07:33
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adj27, Sun 29 Sept 06:51
I think we did improve when Chalmers came on and that in itself is worrying - I know he’s popular but Hamilton for me is an issue - he’s a bombscare with the ball at his feet and offers nothing going forward. I’d play Wotherspoon in the role Chalmers played second half - Otto needs to be in midfield, Cooper needs to start and we desperately need the keeper back.
Hamilton has gone backwards since last year. Him being a pars fan should have showed more interest but was just as lackluster as the rest.
Chalmers did okay when he came on but the bar wasn`t high compared to the first half. That being said at least he showed for the ball and made forward passes both of which were missing from the 10 outfield players in the first half.
It`s dumbfounding we harp on about bringing up youth and we have a perfectly confident goal scorer that was left on the bench when we needed a goal.
There was no excuse for yesterday`s performance and it showed that we are one of the worst teams in this league. Our inability to make changes until things go wrong although it`s clear to see where the danger is shows our management team are clueless and can`t see what everyone else sees.
The problem we are faced with is if mcpake gets a chance to offer more of these guys who can`t compete at this level and extended deals. Whoever gets the job when mcpake goes has to clear out the squad and start from fresh. We have decent young players with the right players around them who can probably hold their own in this league. Unfortunately at the moment we are miles off it and next week is now really a huge game even this early on and at the moment I can`t see anything that shows me we will get a result there next week.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 29 Sep 07:59
They have all gone backwards. Otoo the only player you could argue has improved and looks like a regular performer at this level.
As said when chalmers comes on and looks decent that’s when you know the standard of our play has really dropped.
We’re a league 1 team. There is nothing in this team except effort.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 29 Sep 08:40
Just watched the two goals we conceded.
For the first, Sam Young loses his man who scores with a simple header. However, Mehmet is rooted to his line behind McCann and Rudden. No effort to extricate himself from a simple block, part of which is caused by Lewis.
For the second, the guy heads it in from three yards in the middle of the goal.
Both goals will absolutely infuriate the coaching staff when reviewed on Monday. It’s basic stuff. In fact, it’s very basic stuff
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sun 29 Sep 09:49
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 29 Sept 08:40
Just watched the two goals we conceded.
For the first, Sam Young loses his man who scores with a simple header. However, Mehmet is rooted to his line behind McCann and Rudden. No effort to extricate himself from a simple block, part of which is caused by Lewis.
For the second, the guy heads it in from three yards in the middle of the goal.
Both goals will absolutely infuriate the coaching staff when reviewed on Monday. It’s basic stuff. In fact, it’s very basic stuff
A side from the goals, especially first half queens had so much time on the ball in our half to pass it around without any sort of challenge and when we did win the ball we had no urgency to get forward. We played it like a friendly.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 29 Sep 11:49
Mehmet not at fault for either goal, but he`ll still be a scapegoat for some.
The defending was horrendously bad at both. Young outsmarted at the first, and the second there were about 3 players who lost their man. Schoolboy defending.
Wighton and KRH made a difference when they came on, I`d be starting both next week.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 29 Sep 13:07
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desparado, Sat 28 Sep 15:26
Denying a goal scoring opportunity is usually a red ? We were lucky there but terrible ball from Wetherspoon..
From memory Hamilton wasn’t the last man although I did worry he’d get a red there
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 29 Sep 13:25
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Rigger Al, Sun 29 Sep 06:38
desparado ,have you ever played the game at any level ,
I don’t necessarily agree with his comments either but wtf is this ☝🏻
You’re on a fans forum mate, disagree all you want but leave the snobbery behind
COYP
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 29 Sep 13:30
Topic Originator: Rigger Al like
Date: Sun 29 Sep 06:38
desparado ,have you ever played the game at any level ,
I did actually as a young man and the highlight of my career was a game for Fife U 18’s many moons ago before I sustained an injury. Not that it’s relevant now as it was so long ago. I would hazard a guess that most posters here have not played at a decent level either. We are all entitled to our opinion. I will give mine. Some may agree with me, many won’t. That’s life. But that performance yesterday was frankly abysmal…you don’t need to have played football at any level to see that.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 29 Sep 14:00
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NMCmassive, Sun 29 Sep 13:25
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Rigger Al, Sun 29 Sep 06:38
desparado ,have you ever played the game at any level ,
I don’t necessarily agree with his comments either but wtf is this ☝🏻
You’re on a fans forum mate, disagree all you want but leave the snobbery behind
I was simply asking a,question as many times ex players see things differently to people who havnt played the game
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 29 Sep 14:26
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Rigger Al, Sun 29 Sep 14:00
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NMCmassive, Sun 29 Sep 13:25
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Rigger Al, Sun 29 Sep 06:38
desparado ,have you ever played the game at any level ,
I don’t necessarily agree with his comments either but wtf is this ☝🏻
You’re on a fans forum mate, disagree all you want but leave the snobbery behind
I was simply asking a,question as many times ex players see things differently to people who havnt played the game
Andre Villas-Boas, Arrigo Sacchi, Carlos Alberto Parreira, Bill Struth, Les Parry and Brian Kerr??? 🤷🏻♂️
Again, it’s a fans forum. Disagree all you want but it’s a fans forum. His opinion is as valid as yours here.
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 29 Sep 14:40
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desparado, Sat 28 Sep 23:40
Not yet…. Just pissed off we have so many inept players st our club…..and tubes like you that think it is ok…..
Tbf you shouldn’t be calling ppl tubes cos you disagree with them either.
You should try tapping yourself on the back of the head with a spoon and see if you echo before handing out tube slurs… only way to find out who the tube is
COYP
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 29 Sep 20:55
The highights confirm what we all thought at the time – two terrible goals to lose, then our usual inability to create or take enough chances.
First the team – a couple of changes, no sign of Ngwenya and KRH was dropped (not unreasonably IMO) so Otoo at LB and Clay getting a start, Tobi wasn’t there either, so the opportunity to see him troubling the opposition keeper from 80 yards late in the game as we inevitably chased an equaliser was denied.
I thought McPake had settled on 4-2-3-1 as his favoured set-up but he performed radical (and brave) surgery at HT – 3 changes and then a 4th almost immediately after, which was odd. I argued that Hamilton’s booking last week eventually led to us losing; perhaps that was a factor, and Wotherspoon was also on a yellow and had played an appalling pass straight to an opposition player which led to Hamilton’s caution, and Todd hadn’t done much (but then who had?), but even so it was a surprise.
I can’t see anything in the laws of the game restricting the number of substitutes that can be made at any one time – surely if there were, you would just make the extra one 30 seconds later and it would just waste everyone’s time. In any event, did we not make a quadruple sub at Arbroath in the year of Y**i?
What the formation was thereafter was hard to tell – it seemed a lopsided 5-3-2 with KRH almost at LB and Comrie almost at Inside Right, neither in their best position, but KRH actually played better than of late. Cooper seemed to have the advanced central role until he dropped back to accommodate Wighton.
I spied Callum Davidson at the Rovers game – no doubt he had given some thought about how to play us and it seemed to work – we barely threatened in the first half – a pulled McCann shot and a snap-chance that McCann header wide. Then once he got 2 goals ahead they could afford to sit back and challenge us to score twice – it’s been a long time since I fancied our chances of us pulling back a 2-goal deficit and so it proved, although we had opportunities – a bit more alertness or anticipation and we could have done so.
I didn’t think QP were anything special, but they seemed to play with more urgency and more purpose when required, whereas we regressed to our more pedestrian style, with Kane looking too isolated for my liking – I’d guess other teams are finding it easy to play against us.
Maybe the players are getting mixed messages – perhaps we play better when the objective is clear. We are certainly not being outclassed, but 4 points so far is slim pickings; sometimes all it needs is a small change or a break, but the evidence against McPake’s tenure is stacking up. And what’s with the booing of players before we start?
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