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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 1 Oct 13:50
Goalkeepers: Angus Gunn (Norwich City), Craig Gordon (Heart of Midlothian), Jon McCracken (Dundee).
Defenders: Nicky Devlin (Aberdeen), Anthony Ralston (Celtic), Grant Hanley (Norwich City), Liam Lindsay (Preston North End), Ryan Porteous (Watford), John Souttar (Rangers), Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Greg Taylor (Celtic).
Midfielders: Ryan Christie (Bournemouth), Ryan Gauld (Vancouver Whitecaps), Billy Gilmour, Scott McTominay (both Napoli), Kenny McLean (Norwich City), Andy Irving (West Ham United).
Forwards: Ben Doak (Middlesbrough), James Forrest (Celtic), Lewis Morgan (New York Red Bulls), Che Adams (Torino), Lyndon Dykes (Birmingham City), Lawrence Shankland (Heart of Midlothian).
McGinn and McKenna are missing; first-time call-ups for Devlin, Lindsay (ex-Partick Thistle) and Irving.
Irving played for Hearts, mainly in the season when they won the Championship, then spent two seasons in Germany and Austria before joining West Ham. He`s a left-sided midfielder.
Post Edited (Tue 01 Oct 14:24)
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Tue 1 Oct 15:29
Andy Irving is an interesting one - I`ll be honest I`d never heard of him, but he`s had an interesting career path. Good on him.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 1 Oct 16:33
I`d love to see some alternatives to Ralston and Hanley at the back, but knowing Steve Clark it will just be the status quo 😔
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 1 Oct 16:39
He`s brought in Devlin and Lindsay. It`s unlikely they will go straight into the starting XI but at least he`s giving them a chance.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 9 Oct 12:29
Kevin Nisbet is back in the squad to replace the injured Shankland.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 9 Oct 13:28
Quite possibly the weakest Scotland squad that I have seen for a number of years
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 10 Oct 11:14
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 1 Oct 16:33
I`d love to see some alternatives to Ralston and Hanley at the back, but knowing Steve Clark it will just be the status quo 😔
Whatever you want.......
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 10 Oct 12:22
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Wed 9 Oct 13:28
Quite possibly the weakest Scotland squad that I have seen for a number of years
Id agree its pretty weak from pre euros squads. A lot of injuries hampering that though this time round.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 10 Oct 13:27
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 10 Oct 11:14
Quote:
neilholland999, Tue 1 Oct 16:33
I`d love to see some alternatives to Ralston and Hanley at the back, but knowing Steve Clark it will just be the status quo 😔
Whatever you want.......
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Thu 10 Oct 13:46
That made e chuckle FCDA 👏🏻👏🏻
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 10 Oct 13:52
Let`s hope it`s not down, down deeper and down...
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 10 Oct 19:18
Think we are staring at another two defeats ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 10 Oct 19:18)
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Thu 10 Oct 19:28
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 10 Oct 19:18
Think we are staring at another two defeats ?
Unfortunately yes
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 10 Oct 19:29
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
To be fair the under 21s are second in their qualifying section behind Spain after 8 games.We are above Belgium and Hungary having beaten both in the last year.We lost 2-1 to Spain(Mebude`s brother scored),so it can`t all be doom and gloom?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 10 Oct 19:33
Weird that folk are annoyed we`re struggling in the top section. This was always going to be the case. Wales got found out. England got relegated.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 10 Oct 20:10
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 10 Oct 19:33
Weird that folk are annoyed we`re struggling in the top section. This was always going to be the case. Wales got found out. England got relegated.
Again though we have drawn a fairly favourable group. But injuries and daft decisions have cost us so far I fear. I also feel that Clarkes time was up after the Euros, despite all the good he has done for the national side, he should have gone after that dismal showing.
Cant see much hope over these 2 games with the squad and replacements named. Just one of those things I guess and if we do pick up points will be a great result.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Thu 10 Oct 20:18
The Euros performance has scunnered people. Not so much the nations league. Clarke should have left after we flew home from Germany.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 10 Oct 20:33
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 10 Oct 19:33
Weird that folk are annoyed we`re struggling in the top section. This was always going to be the case. Wales got found out. England got relegated.
Not annoyed it`s just unfortunately the way it is.....
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 10 Oct 20:36
That performance against Hungary was disgraceful
Went out with a whimper
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 10 Oct 20:42
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 10 Oct 19:29
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
To be fair the under 21s are second in their qualifying section behind Spain after 8 games.We are above Belgium and Hungary having beaten both in the last year.We lost 2-1 to Spain(Mebude`s brother scored),so it can`t all be doom and gloom?
Under 21s have been poor for years they haven`t qualified for a major tournament since 1996 and these are played every 2 years.
Since 2006, Scotland have not progressed past the elite qualification round of the European under-19 tournaments.
Hardly successful at youth level.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 11 Oct 20:32
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 20:42
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 10 Oct 19:29
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
To be fair the under 21s are second in their qualifying section behind Spain after 8 games.We are above Belgium and Hungary having beaten both in the last year.We lost 2-1 to Spain(Mebude`s brother scored),so it can`t all be doom and gloom?
Under 21s have been poor for years they haven`t qualified for a major tournament since 1996 and these are played every 2 years.
Since 2006, Scotland have not progressed past the elite qualification round of the European under-19 tournaments.
Hardly successful at youth level.
You prefer the doom and gloom?
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 11 Oct 23:17
James Forrest hasn`t travelled to Croatia.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 12 Oct 08:22
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 11 Oct 20:32
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 20:42
Quote:
parathletic, Thu 10 Oct 19:29
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
To be fair the under 21s are second in their qualifying section behind Spain after 8 games.We are above Belgium and Hungary having beaten both in the last year.We lost 2-1 to Spain(Mebude`s brother scored),so it can`t all be doom and gloom?
Under 21s have been poor for years they haven`t qualified for a major tournament since 1996 and these are played every 2 years.
Since 2006, Scotland have not progressed past the elite qualification round of the European under-19 tournaments.
Hardly successful at youth level.
You prefer the doom and gloom?
If they had qualified for tournaments I`d love to talk about it. But the facts are fact they don`t qualify for tournaments and the u21s play a terrible style of football.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 12 Oct 08:43
Probably in our interest to lose these two games now anyway, secure relegation improving the odds a little bit of qualifying via this avenue in the next campaign.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 12 Oct 20:25
Finishing bottom of the group makes us a pot 3 team for the World Cup draw, finish 3rd and we stay a pot 2 team…..so both games are worth winning.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 14 Oct 11:13
Conor Barron called up to 1st team squad from 21s as replacement for James Forrest
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 14 Oct 12:57
Another one who won`t get a sniff of pitch time...
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 14 Oct 21:41
He’s not good enough just now, but could benefit from the experience of being involved in the training etc ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 15 Oct 13:59
I’ve nothing against him being called up, another that will hopefully be groomed for the future.
Must admit, I’m going tonight but really can’t be arsed 😂😂
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 15 Oct 14:19
Do fans really expect players who haven`t been called up previously to walk into the team? Joining the squad is obviously a stepping stone to allow players to experience training, preparation, match day, etc. Some players have waited ages before actually getting on the pitch!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 15 Oct 20:41
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sat 12 Oct 08:22
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 11 Oct 20:32
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 20:42
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parathletic, Thu 10 Oct 19:29
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 10 Oct 15:33
In fairness we have been punching above our weight in terms of getting the most out of the plyers we have.
The u21s squad is a shambles and has been for a while so it`s hard to judge the potential of the players we have coming through to take over the players who at the world cup (if we get there ) will be playing their swan song tournament.
To be fair the under 21s are second in their qualifying section behind Spain after 8 games.We are above Belgium and Hungary having beaten both in the last year.We lost 2-1 to Spain(Mebude`s brother scored),so it can`t all be doom and gloom?
Under 21s have been poor for years they haven`t qualified for a major tournament since 1996 and these are played every 2 years.
Since 2006, Scotland have not progressed past the elite qualification round of the European under-19 tournaments.
Hardly successful at youth level.
You prefer the doom and gloom?
If they had qualified for tournaments I`d love to talk about it. But the facts are fact they don`t qualify for tournaments and the u21s play a terrible style of football.
Kazakhstan 3 - 2 Scotland
Spain 1 - 0 Scotland
Scotland 3 - 1 Hungary
Scotland 2 - 1 Malta
Belgium 0 - 2 Scotland
Hungary 0 - 0 Scotland
Scotland 4 - 1 Kazakhstan
Turkey 2 - 1 Scotland
Looking through the results, I don’t know what you’re expecting?
The gulf in player depth against the top nations will always be exaggerated because we’ve got a much smaller number of players to choose from. Wasn’t Kyle MacDonald picked for the U21’s while playing for the pars? Boy was sitting on the bench against the likes of Alloa 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 15 Oct 20:55
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 15 Oct 14:19
Do fans really expect players who haven`t been called up previously to walk into the team? Joining the squad is obviously a stepping stone to allow players to experience training, preparation, match day, etc. Some players have waited ages before actually getting on the pitch!
I think that thing where the English over estimate their own players happens up here as well more and more often.
I also think it’s easy to underestimate how much of a step up international football compared to the Scottish Premier.
I mean it’s only a front 3 of Ronaldo plus some lad from Liverpool and a farmer from Juventus they’re playing against eh!
Funnily enough Ronaldo’s probably the weakest of the 3 at this point in time
COYP
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