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Topic Originator: 33Par
Date: Sat 28 Dec 11:27
With his name being mentioned I checked his stats.
Most goals (he) scored against one team. Dunfermline
Win rate as a manager 39%
McPake had a win rate of 44% as Pars manager.
Just saying😏
Amended to say about his goals record.
Post Edited (Sat 28 Dec 18:36)
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 28 Dec 11:34
Tidser as a manager most goals Vs Dunfermline? I think not.
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Topic Originator: 33Par
Date: Sat 28 Dec 11:35
Playing career. Most goals scored against a club.
Marootsmin
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 28 Dec 11:51
Oh well, I wasn`t aware of him being much of a goalscorer if it`s what I see, a hatrick in a single game would pretty much do it, we`ve played Morton loads of times also, can`t take much.
Bit of a random `fact` in my opinion.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 28 Dec 12:45
Quote:
33Par, Sat 28 Dec 11:27
With his name being mentioned I checked his stats.
Most goals against one team. Dunfermline
Win rate as a manager 39%
McPake had a win rate of 44% as Pars manager.
Just saying😏
McPake only won 15 championship games out of 53. That’s poor.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Dec 12:52
Surely it’s not tidser? We need a rebuild in the summer so can’t see someone with so little experience as a manager and no experience as a manager at a full time club coming in.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 28 Dec 12:56
Pretty random numbers, the more I look at it they are numbers and not statistics.
Few goals, as explained above. could be one freak game in his entire career.
Manager- he took over when the money `investment` went from paying for signings 2 tiers above salaries, to the money falling off a cliff, then having to completely overhaul the entire squad on salaries a league below- so there is no correlation there
McPakes record is over 2 separate leagues with average attendance circa 5k . Kelty one league average crowd around 400/500
I`ve no idea if Tidser would make a good manager of a full time 2nd tier club, I have my doubts, but then again he certainly seems to be decent.
As for McPake, well there`s a lot of outside factors at play also which he was unable to navigate ultimately, doesn`t make him a bad manager, even though his time was up.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Dec 15:05
Neil’s, mcpake always does well in his first season if he inherits a newly relegated side with players who are good enough for that new lower level but can’t cut it at the higher level.
It all goes wrong in the second season when you require tactical ability and to improve the team with your own players.
Tidser might turn out to be a great manager, but this is a season or 2 too early.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sat 28 Dec 15:47
It`s not ideally a job for a rookie manager, we are in a relegation fight, as I say I have my doubts, not particularly keen.
As far as McPake, yes he is limited, the negatives we all know too well. He`s gone now anyway, having said that, I feel no need to be too scathing.
So, experience it is then, trouble is not really anyone decent available or willing to come.
I have no feel for this, normally can have an idea of who fits who.
No one comes with a guarantee also.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 28 Dec 18:32
Tidser took over Kelty when the owner left for Raith, I expected that they would struggle in league 1 and eventually drop to league 2 due to lack of funds.
They haven’t and are now in a stronger position than when he took over.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Dec 18:51
League 1 is an easier league this year with Falkirk away and Kelty still have some big earners there with the likes of Scott Allan and o’ware to name 2.
Next season if a few more of the higher earners leave then it will be interesting if he can keep them challenging or even in that league given the attendances.
Liked tidser as a player, always dominated against us, it’s been many a year since we had a good midfield at this level.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:09
Tidser isn’t what we need. Another disaster waiting to happen. Maybe we’re preparing for League 1.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
Tidser has won 8 league games in 19 this season. They are only 3rd in the table because the rest of the league isn’t that great. We should not be looking at a League 1 manager with a year and half experience of managing. Thats a disaster waiting to happen.
I think its about time we pushed the boat out for a big managerial name like a Lennon etc. It might not work out but we need someone that can draw in names of players that are good enough to get us out of this mess.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:24
I’d take Murray over tidser. Unless we get to see who has applied for the role it’s difficult to say who looks a better bet.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:25
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:32
Quote:
Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:34
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:34
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
Is that the same Billy Davies who hasn`t had a manager job in 10 years ? What exactly are you basing your logic on?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:36
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 19:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
Tidser has won 8 league games in 19 this season. They are only 3rd in the table because the rest of the league isn’t that great. We should not be looking at a League 1 manager with a year and half experience of managing. Thats a disaster waiting to happen.
I think its about time we pushed the boat out for a big managerial name like a Lennon etc. It might not work out but we need someone that can draw in names of players that are good enough to get us out of this mess.
So who do you want?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:47
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 19:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
Tidser has won 8 league games in 19 this season. They are only 3rd in the table because the rest of the league isn’t that great. We should not be looking at a League 1 manager with a year and half experience of managing. Thats a disaster waiting to happen.
I think its about time we pushed the boat out for a big managerial name like a Lennon etc. It might not work out but we need someone that can draw in names of players that are good enough to get us out of this mess.
tend to agree
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:49
Quote:
Rigger Al, Sat 28 Dec 19:47
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 19:23
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
Tidser has won 8 league games in 19 this season. They are only 3rd in the table because the rest of the league isn’t that great. We should not be looking at a League 1 manager with a year and half experience of managing. Thats a disaster waiting to happen.
I think its about time we pushed the boat out for a big managerial name like a Lennon etc. It might not work out but we need someone that can draw in names of players that are good enough to get us out of this mess.
tend to agree
And pay him with what?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:49
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 19:36
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 19:23
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 18:59
What`s your thoughts on Tidser? Do you fancy him as our manager or not? If not, who?
Tidser has won 8 league games in 19 this season. They are only 3rd in the table because the rest of the league isn’t that great. We should not be looking at a League 1 manager with a year and half experience of managing. Thats a disaster waiting to happen.
I think its about time we pushed the boat out for a big managerial name like a Lennon etc. It might not work out but we need someone that can draw in names of players that are good enough to get us out of this mess.
So who do you want?
Id take Lennon, Id take Murray (last season shows can cut it at this level), Billy Davies (but Id like to think the board would find out the reasons behind a 10 year absence), Naismith or Robson have managed at a higher level, or even trying to entice a Paul Lambert back into management.
Something a bit more exciting than Tidser or Ferguson or a host of ex Pars like Cardle…..
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:56
We are not as big a club as we think we are and need to make ends meet.
Non league clubs in England can sign players we can’t afford and that will be same for managers.
Kelty are only a few places behind us in the pyramid, championship is also the weakest it has been for several years.
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 19:59
Quote:
k76, Sat 28 Dec 19:56
We are not as big a club as we think we are and need to make ends meet.
Non league clubs in England can sign players we can’t afford and that will be same for managers.
Kelty are only a few places behind us in the pyramid, championship is also the weakest it has been for several years.
Exactly, the days of us paying managers loads of cash are long gone, we couldn`t compete with the money Sky pays Lennon for instance
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:02
Quote:
Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:59
Quote:
k76, Sat 28 Dec 19:56
We are not as big a club as we think we are and need to make ends meet.
Non league clubs in England can sign players we can’t afford and that will be same for managers.
Kelty are only a few places behind us in the pyramid, championship is also the weakest it has been for several years.
Exactly, the days of us paying managers loads of cash are long gone, we couldn`t compete with the money Sky pays Lennon for instance
Im pretty sure football managers would rather manage a club on a decent wage than be a pundit on Sky once a fortnight
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:05
Quote:
Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:34
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
Don’t you think manager’s approach their respective boards about getting new players in and some are better at it than others? Don’t you think an experienced manager will be better at getting himself more budget from the board than an inexperienced manager?
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:06
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 20:02
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:59
Quote:
k76, Sat 28 Dec 19:56
We are not as big a club as we think we are and need to make ends meet.
Non league clubs in England can sign players we can’t afford and that will be same for managers.
Kelty are only a few places behind us in the pyramid, championship is also the weakest it has been for several years.
Exactly, the days of us paying managers loads of cash are long gone, we couldn`t compete with the money Sky pays Lennon for instance
Im pretty sure football managers would rather manage a club on a decent wage than be a pundit on Sky once a fortnight
Mind Andy Grey turned down Everton for the Sky Sports job?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:07
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:05
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:34
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
Don’t you think manager’s approach their respective boards about getting new players in and some are better at it than others? Don’t you think an experienced manager will be better at getting himself more budget from the board than an inexperienced manager?
So we appoint Lennon he doesn`t get to sign a player goes in the huff and falls out with the board, we have a wage structure that any manager will need to work to, if they can`t do that then they won`t have a job
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:09
Quote:
Alf, Sat 28 Dec 20:07
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:05
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:34
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
Don’t you think manager’s approach their respective boards about getting new players in and some are better at it than others? Don’t you think an experienced manager will be better at getting himself more budget from the board than an inexperienced manager?
So we appoint Lennon he doesn`t get to sign a player goes in the huff and falls out with the board, we have a wage structure that any manager will need to work to, if they can`t do that then they won`t have a job
Now you’re just making stuff up 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:11
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:09
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 20:07
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:05
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:34
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
Don’t you think manager’s approach their respective boards about getting new players in and some are better at it than others? Don’t you think an experienced manager will be better at getting himself more budget from the board than an inexperienced manager?
So we appoint Lennon he doesn`t get to sign a player goes in the huff and falls out with the board, we have a wage structure that any manager will need to work to, if they can`t do that then they won`t have a job
Now you’re just making stuff up 🤷🏻♂️
You started it, if money is not available then it doesn`t matter how persuasive a manager might be
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:13
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 28 Dec 19:09
Tidser isn’t what we need. Another disaster waiting to happen. Maybe we’re preparing for League 1.
Who is the guaranteed answer to our new manager?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:14
Lennon 😀
Davies 😀
Naismith 😀
Robson 😀
Lambert 😀😀😀😀😀
Murray fair enough 👏
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sat 28 Dec 20:14)
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:23
I hope it isn’t tidser
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:28
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 20:14
Lennon 😀
Davies 😀
Naismith 😀
Robson 😀
Lambert 😀😀😀😀😀
Murray fair enough 👏
Im not entirely sure what is comedic about these options? Do you believe they are out of our range? Or that they arent good enough?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:33
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 20:28
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 20:14
Lennon 😀
Davies 😀
Naismith 😀
Robson 😀
Lambert 😀😀😀😀😀
Murray fair enough 👏
Im not entirely sure what is comedic about these options? Do you believe they are out of our range? Or that they arent good enough?
Lennon Davies and Lambert are hilarious suggestions. No danger they`d be interested in us.
Naismith and Robson have managed at a higher level but were both chased out their respective clubs.
Murray is the only one you`ve suggested that is appealing and remotely possible
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:41
No real point discussing these options, a lot of them would be too expensive anyway. It is going to be Tidser
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:55
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 28 Dec 20:41
No real point discussing these options, a lot of them would be too expensive anyway. It is going to be Tidser
There is though, especially as they`re being used as means to bash the new guy before he`s even signed up.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:55
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 20:33
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 20:28
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da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 20:14
Lennon 😀
Davies 😀
Naismith 😀
Robson 😀
Lambert 😀😀😀😀😀
Murray fair enough 👏
Im not entirely sure what is comedic about these options? Do you believe they are out of our range? Or that they arent good enough?
Lennon Davies and Lambert are hilarious suggestions. No danger they`d be interested in us.
Naismith and Robson have managed at a higher level but were both chased out their respective clubs.
Murray is the only one you`ve suggested that is appealing and remotely possible
Why wouldn’t Lennon and Davies be interested? One has managed in Championship before for Hibs who now needs to rebuild his reputation, the other is a former player who’s been out the game for 10 years. I do admit Lambert was a wild card mind you.
If we are going for a manager with only a year and halfs experience in League 1 then why not go for ones with Premier League experience instead? Maybe Aberdeen and Hearts were too big for them?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 28 Dec 20:57
Would be willing to give Tidser an opportunity, really handy player in his day and knows the Championship very well given majority of his career has been in it.
His managerial career with Kelty Hearts hasn’t been that bad given the constraints he has to battle with.
Murray would be my preferred option but if it’s Tidser then so be it.
I’d love more adventurous options but we’re not exactly a big draw for managers at the moment and financially we are restricted.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 28 Dec 21:04
McPake strolled league 1 and was rank rotten in the championship. Tidser is lying 3rd in league 1 currently, 5 points off the top and has no management experience in the championship. Are we going to continue playing Russian Roulette with managers? We have to get it right this time surely. Every appointment is a risk but at least do diligence and minimise it as much as possible. That means it can`t be Tidser.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 28 Dec 21:12
I am sure he will become a good manager but is just starting out in his career. We are second bottom of the championship. I feel that needs someone with experience at championship level or above in some capacity. John McLaughlan seems the best candidate for me at this stage, and move a couple of the experienced players into on and off-field coaching roles. That`s tge logical step. He can always step back at the end of the season to his current role. It will take a team effort to address our current predicament both players and management. There is no silver bullet
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 21:42
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 20:11
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:09
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 20:07
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 20:05
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:34
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 19:32
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Alf, Sat 28 Dec 19:25
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Alter Ego, Sat 28 Dec 19:21
Tidser is a cheap option for the pars imo…Billy Davies or a Neil Lennon that has experience is what we need. Let’s say Tidser has the job and wants a player and Cook says no….let Cook trying to say that to the likes of Davies/Lennon without having a management dispute??
What a load of absolute p*sh,
I don’t think it is.
Do you think managers go into the job not knowing what the budget is for the season?
Don’t you think manager’s approach their respective boards about getting new players in and some are better at it than others? Don’t you think an experienced manager will be better at getting himself more budget from the board than an inexperienced manager?
So we appoint Lennon he doesn`t get to sign a player goes in the huff and falls out with the board, we have a wage structure that any manager will need to work to, if they can`t do that then they won`t have a job
Now you’re just making stuff up 🤷🏻♂️
You started it, if money is not available then it doesn`t matter how persuasive a manager might be
Saying an experienced manager can carry more weight in the bored meeting isn’t making things up.
Creating stories about Neil Lennon going in a huff is 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 28 Dec 21:46
IMO I’d say it was disrespectful to put someone down when they’re still in their current role. He’s doing a good job with Kelty. Long may it continue.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 22:05
Quote:
Jock Par36, Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
Rumour mill has it that Tidser set to be announced in the next day or 2
COYP
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 28 Dec 22:13
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 22:05
Quote:
Jock Par36, Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
Rumour mill has it that Tidser set to be announced in the next day or 2
That is correct, it`s a done deal
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 28 Dec 22:20
Is that based on a solid source or a man down the pub though?
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 28 Dec 22:39
Quote:
jake89, Sat 28 Dec 22:20
Is that based on a solid source or a man down the pub though?
Not my source if you like but it’s all over social media. It’s definitely yet to be confirmed… I’m just waiting to see what happens
COYP
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 28 Dec 22:57
If Tidser is chosen to be manager ,surely all pars fans should support him .
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Topic Originator: Stevie d
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:03
What about Ian McCall ?
No mention of him. Bags of experience. Out of a job.
Ex par. Need I go on ?
I`d take him in a heartbeat
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Topic Originator: Boomer
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:14
McCall out of a job for a reason. Ex par means feck all no way should he even be considered
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:16
He wouldn’t be my choice.
Would be the cheap option compared to the other names mentioned.
Seems like a gamble in the hope that he can step up a level.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:35
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 28 Dec 22:13
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 22:05
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Jock Par36, Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
Rumour mill has it that Tidser set to be announced in the next day or 2
That is correct, it`s a done deal
Another shocker from the board. Would have been better just sticking with McPake if that’s the route we are going down. Totally underwhelming and a massive gamble.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:40
If true, an absolute shocking appointment. Cheap option as per from the board
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:44
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sat 28 Dec 22:57
If Tidser is chosen to be manager ,surely all pars fans should support him .
Like they did with Grant? 🤔 I’m more than willing to give a new manager time, but doesn’t mean people cant be sceptical and question the appointment. It’s not like our last few appointments have been world beaters.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:44
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 28 Dec 23:35
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red-star-par, Sat 28 Dec 22:13
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 22:05
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Jock Par36, Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
Rumour mill has it that Tidser set to be announced in the next day or 2
That is correct, it`s a done deal
Another shocker from the board. Would have been better just sticking with McPake if that’s the route we are going down. Totally underwhelming and a massive gamble.
Who do you want?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:45
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 28 Dec 23:40
If true, an absolute shocking appointment. Cheap option as per from the board
Who do you want?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:45
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 23:44
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sat 28 Dec 22:57
If Tidser is chosen to be manager ,surely all pars fans should support him .
Like they did with Grant? 🤔 I’m more than willing to give a new manager time, but doesn’t mean people cant be sceptical and question the appointment. It’s not like our last few appointments have been world beaters.
Who do you want?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 28 Dec 23:50
Da no 1, I’d like Ian Murray to be in charge
Who do you want?
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Topic Originator: Swainy
Date: Sun 29 Dec 00:00
An experienced manager hasn`t always worked, let me remind you of Yogi Hughes who we employed under similar circumstances.
Every appointment will be a risk. If we see something in an inexperienced manager then it may be worth the risk.
Anyone with a more attacking mindset is good for me!
D.A are the number one!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 29 Dec 00:03
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 23:45
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 28 Dec 23:44
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sat 28 Dec 22:57
If Tidser is chosen to be manager ,surely all pars fans should support him .
Like they did with Grant? 🤔 I’m more than willing to give a new manager time, but doesn’t mean people cant be sceptical and question the appointment. It’s not like our last few appointments have been world beaters.
Who do you want?
You already know my options 😂 I don’t want someone whos only managed for a year and a half in the league below the one we are in
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 29 Dec 00:05
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 28 Dec 23:50
Da no 1, I’d like Ian Murray to be in charge
Who do you want?
Murray but no guarantees he`ll be a success.
Tidser is a bit of an odd one but willing to give him a chance to impress.
Saying he`s the "cheap option" is just uninformed nonsense befitting of this sh1show of a forum
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 29 Dec 00:39
Can’t believe some of the posts on here……….
Totally unrealistic in terms of what can be achieved in a short space of time on a limited budget.
Fact - We are second bottom of the Championship with 16pts - 4 points adrift of the pack + we have played a game more.
Fact - We have no idea what position financially the takeover will leave the club in. There are no free lunches in business. Our new owners will want something for their investment.
Fact - We have 17 games left (51 points to play for) & we have to find a manager that can hit the ground running. We need to take the lions share of the 51pts or we are down.
FACT - Football supporters - Great at spending other people’s money!
Alf is spot on - Where is the money coming from for the likes of Lennon?
Maybe Tidser is the only option we have financially.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 29 Dec 06:09
Quote:
Angus_W, Sun 29 Dec 00:39
Can’t believe some of the posts on here……….
Totally unrealistic in terms of what can be achieved in a short space of time on a limited budget.
Fact - We are second bottom of the Championship with 16pts - 4 points adrift of the pack + we have played a game more.
Fact - We have no idea what position financially the takeover will leave the club in. There are no free lunches in business. Our new owners will want something for their investment.
Fact - We have 17 games left (51 points to play for) & we have to find a manager that can hit the ground running. We need to take the lions share of the 51pts or we are down.
FACT - Football supporters - Great at spending other people’s money!
Alf is spot on - Where is the money coming from for the likes of Lennon?
Maybe Tidser is the only option we have financially.
Good post, Angus.
Any appointment will carry a degree of risk. The club will appoint a manager it can afford and who is willing to take the job. I very much doubt there will be a huge budget to bring in a raft of new players in January, so he will mostly have to work with the players we have.
Two of the most successful Pars managers in my lifetime are Jock Stein and Jim Leishman. Neither had any previous managerial experience whatsoever. Whoever gets the job - let`s get behind him and give him a chance instead of writing him off beforehand.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 29 Dec 07:14
Maybe all the names above didn`t apply? Easy saying we should go for him or him but they might not want to come to us. At the end of the day we aren`t as big as we used to be and I think some on here need to take stock of where we are currently instead of the success of yesteryear.
Currently we have owners who want to sell the club and no real clarity on the intentions of the interested party. It`s also going to need a big rebuild both on and off the pitch with a number of these players playing above their level and a new inverter might want his own staff behind the scenes. Every managerial appointment where it is tidser or anyone else is a gamble.
Whoever gets the job will have my full support regardless who I wanted to get it initially. Friday showed what can be achieved if everyone is pushing in the same direction. Support the team and get to safety then let the manager prove his worth in the summer with a rebuild. Interesting time to be a pars fan albeit not without trepidation.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 29 Dec 09:03
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 28 Dec 23:44
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 28 Dec 23:35
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red-star-par, Sat 28 Dec 22:13
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NMCmassive, Sat 28 Dec 22:05
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Jock Par36, Sat 28 Dec 21:51
You all need to forget about Tidser. Do
not even consider him. For me it has to
be Ian Murray.
Rumour mill has it that Tidser set to be announced in the next day or 2
That is correct, it`s a done deal
Another shocker from the board. Would have been better just sticking with McPake if that’s the route we are going down. Totally underwhelming and a massive gamble.
Who do you want?
Out of that list Murray would tick most of the boxes. He’s unemployed,got a good deal of experience, something to prove and some of his signings were quite good for the wee team.
Tidser is absolutely madness. Is he not under contract as well? Don’t tell me we have to pay money for him as well?
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Sun 29 Dec 09:05)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 29 Dec 09:11
Why not Tidser?
I mean, with the current players and the unfit, disorganised mess McPake has left us in, we look closer to dropping down a division than staying up, if we do go down we have someone in place that can negotiate at that level, if he works a small miracle and keeps us up he deserves a shot at the rebuild,no?
Given our finances and thr club being in limbo he`s one of the more sensible names being mentioned.
Can you see a Lennon or Davies sticking around for the seaside league?
Have a word with yourselves.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 09:22
Good Posts .. Angus .. GG .. cammy and Dandy
He will get my full support if appointed .. we have to cut our cloth etc.
Keeping us in the Championship would be a great achievement right now
COYP
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 29 Dec 10:17
As above, some fans must not have clocked the club’s financial state by mentioning names that are way out of our reach - just fantasy.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Dec 10:23
A few of the players might benefit from sessions with Cardle. I think some of them might do already.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 29 Dec 10:49
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sat 28 Dec 22:57
If Tidser is chosen to be manager ,surely all pars fans should support him .
Not should support him, will support him. Although a number of people won’t be happy with that appointment, they’ll support him until given reason not too.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 29 Dec 11:29
"they’ll support him until given reason not too"
like the first defeat.....
not even been confirmed and the guy is on a hiding to nothing, same as the future investors/owners.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 29 Dec 11:38
Don’t know how I feel about Tidser, lack of experience but has done okay at Kelty with a very average team in League 1. Reckon his football could more positive compared to Mcpakes, he was a forward thinking player in his day.
Who makes the final decision when it comes to appointment? The board as a whole? Or mr big wage David Cook?
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sun 29 Dec 12:18
I wasnt impressed by Kelty when we played them recently , I dont recall them creating many chances against us and I noticed they lost to Dumbarton yesterday a side bottom of the league currently in administration . His appointment wouldnt fill me with confidence.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 29 Dec 12:31
Quote:
wetherby, Sun 29 Dec 12:18
I wasnt impressed by Kelty when we played them recently , I dont recall them creating many chances against us and I noticed they lost to Dumbarton yesterday a side bottom of the league currently in administration . His appointment wouldnt fill me with confidence.
And we’ll need to pay compensation. So much for being skint. This is one bizarre appointment. Flashbacks of Peter Grant.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Alf
Date: Sun 29 Dec 12:48
Quote:
The Boss, Sun 29 Dec 12:31
Quote:
wetherby, Sun 29 Dec 12:18
I wasnt impressed by Kelty when we played them recently , I dont recall them creating many chances against us and I noticed they lost to Dumbarton yesterday a side bottom of the league currently in administration . His appointment wouldnt fill me with confidence.
And we’ll need to pay compensation. So much for being skint. This is one bizarre appointment. Flashbacks of Peter Grant.
Nothing like giving the guy a chance, I would love to know what manager guarantees success,
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 29 Dec 12:53
^^ anyone that isnt appointed.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:28
Wondering who the assistant will be ?
That could be just as important as the manager.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:28
At the level most of Scottish football is at … 75% is man management and organisation. Look at the bunnet nearly taking Arbroath to the premier. Or Airdrie last season. If Tidser can galvanise the boys to work with him we have enough quality to move up the league. If Bene , Chalmers and OHallran get behind him the rest will follow.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:30
The money we`d have to pay Kelty for MT could go towards a bonus for a more experienced manager keeping us up.
I`d support him but losing to Dumbarton doesn`t fill me with confidence
We don`t make the decisions though so we just have to live with whomever is given the gig.
Murray though,decent manager,no compensation needed.
I`d personally be giving it a couple of weeks to see if any gems apply. It seems like we`re rushing into it though.
It also suggests to me that the new owners are pretty much in place and are having a major say in what comes next.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:37
Arbroath sacked Jim Mcintyre when bottom of Division 1, appointed 2 novice co managers, now top of the league .
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:57
Loving reading all these comments from people that know the contractual detail of Tidser`s deal at Kelty.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 29 Dec 13:58
Quote:
wetherby, Sun 29 Dec 12:18
I wasnt impressed by Kelty when we played them recently , I dont recall them creating many chances against us and I noticed they lost to Dumbarton yesterday a side bottom of the league currently in administration . His appointment wouldnt fill me with confidence.
I disagree a bit.
When we played them I thought Kelty tried to pass it about and play decent football. They were without a few key players at the time (Scott Allan being the main one) so maybe didn`t quite have the personnel to do it. They still managed to have more possession than us and the result was fairly narrow in the end.
Dumbarton aren`t bottom of the league because they are bad at football, they are there because they`ve just been docked 15 points. Saying you`ve been beaten by `the bottom side` doesn`t mean the same as if they hadn`t had that deduction.
I`m reasonably happy with the appointment. I could certainly list more positives than negatives to it.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sun 29 Dec 14:05
If this is to be true I can`t quite believe this is the route we`re going down again, young/inexperienced/achieved nothing of note.
I get there`s no such thing as a low risk manager but what an underwhelming appointment this would be.
I`ll back the guy if he comes in but on David Cook/local BOD`s head be it.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 29 Dec 14:23
Considering some folk on here were genuinely suggesting the Campbell Brothers as manager, I think I`ll take opinions here witha massive pinch of salt. Also folk claiming that this is the "cheap option" when we don`t know if/how much compensation will need to be paid to Kelty, what the salary demands are, who his assistant and coach(es) are going to be, etc is typical dotnet. He was a good player and continues to play well for Kelty, and has used the loan market to great effect. This isn`t the same Kelty we saw when they had the money men behind them, and despite the quality of the division not being great, there are still some full time teams like Queens, Cove and Inverness in there along with the best part-time team of the last decade, namely Arbroath. Seems that is quite a logical next step for an ambitious manager making his way up the ladder. I`m not saying he`s the next messiah or that he`d be my number 1 pick but he was certainly in the group of managers I had down as genuine candidates when McPake got the sack. Thr negative reaction to me seems quite odd and quite over the top, but maybe that`s just me.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 29 Dec 14:26
I know very little about Tidser. What I do know is 1) we’re in a mess and 2) he’s a relative rookie. All managerial appointments are a gamble but I was hoping for someone with more experience. As we’ve seen recently with Johnston and McPake, doing it in league 1 counts for nothing.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 14:33
Kelty Hearts have given DAFC permission to speak to manager Michael Tidser
DAFC news
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 29 Dec 14:39
Are we absolutely sure we’re bringing in tidser just to be our next manager?
I mean he’d still get a game in our midfield.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: PAR57
Date: Sun 29 Dec 15:19
Tidser OMG.......surely we could do better than that....
Spent all the money paying off McPake no doubt.....
Ideal team was Davidson and Nicholson........
Most new managers would require some sort of package to spend !!!!
Looks awfy like.....here is the Pars job.......eh BTW you will have to make do with the present playing pool......
NOT IMPRESSED if it is true of course.....
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 16:09
They seem to be moving fairly quickly on this one and looks like they were doing their homework when they were waiting to see if James McPake was going to rescue his job. Tidser spent his youth at Celtic in the days John McLaughlan was there so I wonder if they got some of their information from him.
Although Tidser is around the same age as our senior players he spent a while at Celtic, played abroad, played down in England and in different leagues in Scotland. Sometimes it`s what you`ve be doing as opposed to how long you`ve being doing it that gives you the experience. Let`s hope that`s the case anyway.
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Topic Originator: Doves
Date: Sun 29 Dec 16:09
That`s a pihs appointment and a gamble but that`s the universe the club is In when others don`t want to come.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 29 Dec 16:19
Do player managers have success in their careers?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 29 Dec 17:56
Quote:
desparado, Sun 29 Dec 13:28
Wondering who the assistant will be ?
That could be just as important as the manager.
It`s his current assistant, Kevin McDonald
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Topic Originator: Cleveland12
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:01
The Kelty boys are more concerned about his assistant leaving with him than Tisder going. He has been there since his Brother in law Kevin Thomson was manager.
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Topic Originator: parathetic
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:05
Totally underwhelming appointment if it goes ahead, but it is what it is, we are Dunfermline athletic after all. What did we really expect.🤔
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:13
Worth saying that the two best managers in my lifetime of supporting the Pars (Paton & Leish) had hardly any experience before taking over.
Some of the most experienced have been mince. Davie Hay. Mince. Jocky Scott. Mince.
Managerial success all feels like a bit of a lottery if I`m honest. I want us to be more imaginative on the pitch and reflect more of who we are - one of the biggest teams at this level - rather than a timid, passive shadow of what the Pars should be. I don`t think it`s a big ask.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:24
I have no real opinion about Tidser, same as Murray, we simply don`t know, so good luck. Both have good and bad, and maybe VC we have not choice.
If he can be able to have more pressure up front (like against Falkirk) and in the meantime improve fitness then we have a fighting chance, the team needs drilled, simple as that.
A tough task, good luck, we are already in the doodoo and it`s getting to the stage that we will run out of games-if the teams we are fighting with win the games in hand we will be 7 and 8 points behind them with 16 games to go-will start to get impossible.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:26
Got to give him a chance I guess in the same way we gave Grant and yogi a chance.
Given how poor we’ve been trained and set up this season it should be noticeable fairly quickly if he’s having a positive impact.
Praying he gets to bring in at least a couple of players early doors in Jan. quite a few of these players cannot be coached into becoming championship standard.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sun 29 Dec 19:45
Yep, and I thought Yogi was a no brainer too!
Then again I thought Davie Hay would be good!
Don`t ever listen to a word I say. It`s clearly rubbish.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sun 29 Dec 20:00
We are not in the market to sign proven management teams or players.
Our market is gambling on potential and for me Tidser is a manager with potential.
Kelty have stayed in league 1 when the owner (now at Raith) bailed out but have retained their league 1 status and are now challenging for promotion (they could actually be in a league above us next season).
I applaud the BOD for not going with the usual suspects and taking a punt on potential like we have in the past with Stein, Leishman and Calderwood.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 20:04
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Sun 29 Dec 19:13
Worth saying that the two best managers in my lifetime of supporting the Pars (Paton & Leish) had hardly any experience before taking over.
Some of the most experienced have been mince. Davie Hay. Mince. Jocky Scott. Mince.
Managerial success all feels like a bit of a lottery if I`m honest. I want us to be more imaginative on the pitch and reflect more of who we are - one of the biggest teams at this level - rather than a timid, passive shadow of what the Pars should be. I don`t think it`s a big ask.
Absolutely
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Dec 20:11
People have short memories. I started getting interested in the Pars when Paton was manager. The following is just my own opinion:
Paton: Great
Calderwood: Great but spent a fortune
Hay: Garbage
Kenny: Terrible but not 100% his fault
McIntyre: Okay
Jefferies: Okay
Potter: Poor
Johnston: Good
Crawford: Average
Grant: Terrible
Hughes: Terrible
McPake: Okay
I`ve obviously missed out the guys who were in for a few games but the point is there`s a mix there of newish managers and experienced managers. Unfortunately, most in the last 20 years have ended up being crap!
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 20:13
Quote:
parathetic, Sun 29 Dec 19:05
Totally underwhelming appointment if it goes ahead, but it is what it is, we are Dunfermline athletic after all. What did we really expect.🤔
We are living within our means, not spending money that does not belong to us.Yorkston, Masterton for example. Get behind the new manager and hopefully, he gets an experienced assistant to get out of this relegation nightmare.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 29 Dec 21:50
Quote:
jake89, Sun 29 Dec 20:11
People have short memories. I started getting interested in the Pars when Paton was manager. The following is just my own opinion:
Paton: Great
Calderwood: Great but spent a fortune
Hay: Garbage
Kenny: Terrible but not 100% his fault
McIntyre: Okay
Jefferies: Okay
Potter: Poor
Johnston: Good
Crawford: Average
Grant: Terrible
Hughes: Terrible
McPake: Okay
I`ve obviously missed out the guys who were in for a few games but the point is there`s a mix there of newish managers and experienced managers. Unfortunately, most in the last 20 years have ended up being crap!
its the board who agrees the speduture not the manager ,manager identies the player he wants
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:00
Not criticising Calderwood. What he achieved was pretty phenomenal. Downside was we had a board signing off on things we couldn`t possibly ever afford and almost killed the club.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:04
ffs,Calerewood was approved to spend
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:12
Are you having a stroke?
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:20
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:22
Topic Originator: jake89 like
Date: Sun 29 Dec 20:11
People have short memories. I started getting interested in the Pars when Paton was manager. The following is just my own opinion:
Paton: Great
Calderwood: Great but spent a fortune
Hay: Garbage
Kenny: Terrible but not 100% his fault
McIntyre: Okay
Jefferies: Okay
Potter: Poor
Johnston: Good
Crawford: Average
Grant: Terrible
Hughes: Terrible
McPake: Okay
I get the above is your own opinion & whilst I disagree with some of your manager grading I fully agree with the Garbage label for Davie Hay & if their were grades below garbage I would happily plump fo them
Stephen Kenny “Terrible” is the one that for me is the judgement widest off the mark. His off field antics were the cause of his downfall & because of that some of the players led a revolt by downing tools (just another sad episode in the Pars history)
2022/23 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Dec 22:42
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 29 Dec 22:20
Calderwood was a brilliant manager. Let’s not downplay it . Some Pars fans seem absolutely guilt ridden looking back to that time.
I said he was "Great". The reason for mentioning money is I suspect some other managers could have been great if they`d been given the sort of resources Calderwood had. That`s not to downplay what he achieved at all. He got us back into Europe and into cup finals.
Drumroad, Kenny* saw us relegated and almost relegated us again. He was a terrible appointment.
*and a bunch of lazy, selfish players who spent more time in Riley's than they did in training while "injured".
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Topic Originator: arpar
Date: Sun 29 Dec 23:42
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sun 29 Dec 13:37
Arbroath sacked Jim Mcintyre when bottom of Division 1, appointed 2 novice co managers, now top of the league .
True, but both have been at the club for 10 seasons and totally invested in the club. They also kept on Jim McIntyre`s assistant manager who has a lot of experience.
If there was a similar option at the Pars it may be the way to go, but don`t see any senior pros that would make the step up in house.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 30 Dec 14:11
Roberto Martinez seen at the Alhambra last night!🤞
Post Edited (Mon 30 Dec 14:12)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 30 Dec 14:31
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 30 Dec 14:11
Roberto Martinez seen at the Alhambra last night!🤞
I`m sure I read he met his wife when he played for Motherwell so he probably now has Scottish family.
I`d prefer to rumour that he`s been offering his services, and young Portuguese talent, to the pars though 😂
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 30 Dec 17:40
Daily Record:
17:33KEY EVENT
Pars close in on Tidser
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Pars are now in compensation talks with Kelty Hearts over a package for their manager. If that is agreed then Tidser should take charge of Dunfermline ahead of Saturday’s trip to Partick Thistle.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser. He is set to move to East End Park along with his No.2 Kevin McDonald.
Tidser was Dunfermline’s top target after they sacked James McPake earlier this month. They have been impressed with the job he has done with their Fife rivals, in terms of playing style and giving young players a chance.
The Pars are in the process of a take over. An American consortium, which includes professional poker player James Bord.
A deal has been agreed to buy the club and it is subject to approval from the Scottish Football Association. Dunfermline hope to get that next month so they can start to make moves in the January transfer window.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 30 Dec 17:43
2 and a half year deal?!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ do they ever learn?!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 30 Dec 17:50
Looking forward to seeing what Tidser can do.
Wishing him all the best if he gets the gig!
Post Edited (Mon 30 Dec 17:50)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 30 Dec 17:56
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 17:43
2 and a half year deal?!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ do they ever learn?!
What length of deal do you suggest?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:00
Got to get behind him and hopefully he can get some kind of kitty to bring in some much needed additions to the squad.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:01
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 30 Dec 17:56
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 17:43
2 and a half year deal?!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ do they ever learn?!
What length of deal do you suggest?
A year and a half would have been more than suitable
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:09
Welcome to the Pars, Michael. Best wishes for a happy and successful career in your new job.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:17
Hope the guy does well and brings a new freshness/ideas to the team. Looks like he wants to play attacking football so that’s a good start.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:25
Hope he does well of course but will refrain from making a full judgement on the appointment till the end of the season. Thats when we will really know how successful a decision it has been.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:25
When did Kelty Hearts become our rivals? 😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: istvan kozma
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:26
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 30 Dec 17:56
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 17:43
2 and a half year deal?!?!?! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ do they ever learn?!
What length of deal do you suggest?
Until the end of the season. Then take it from there.
KOZMA
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:26
Geezo, they were impressed with him giving young players a chance? Does the board know we don’t have any young players who at present are ready for this level? We barely have any experienced pro’s who are at this level. Does this mean the German dream lives on under new owners.
If he wants to play attacking football good luck with the attacking players he has to pick from!
They must have seen something in him so let’s see what he’s got. Think his assistant has rangers connections and he has Celtic connections so maybe he can use those contacts for some loans?
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:28
People should understand that Tidser will assume responsibility for effectively training the team, contingent upon the new owner`s approval by the SFA. The sports analytics will shape the team strategy by leveraging the statistics collected during both training sessions and games, as well as assessing the strengths of the opposition they will face that weekend.
I suspect that this may have been employed as a tactic against Falkirk. This is merely conjecture, as I have never witnessed us adopt a diamond formation before. I am unsure whether John utilizes the diamond in reserve football.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:29
Quote:
buffy, Mon 30 Dec 18:25
When did Kelty Hearts become our rivals? 😂
When we got relegated and played in same league as them. It’s about our level.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:31
Welcome aboard and good luck.
Ffs give the guy a chance, support the team.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:34
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:31
Welcome aboard and good luck.
Ffs give the guy a chance, support the team.
Dont think a single person has said they wont give him a chance…
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:45
I wish him well. But I am concerned that he’s been appointed on the basis of “playing style” and “giving young players a chance “ - This utopian pipe dream of a stream of cheap academy players bursting through and winning games with free flowing football. Never known the championship to be anything other than a scrap and he’ll need to somehow accumulate better, stronger and more creative players than he’s got at his disposal currently. Good luck to him. Relatively unproven but so were all the worlds top managers at some point.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:49
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 30 Dec 18:45
I wish him well. But I am concerned that he’s been appointed on the basis of “playing style” and “giving young players a chance “ - This utopian pipe dream of a stream of cheap academy players bursting through and winning games with free flowing football. Never known the championship to be anything other than a scrap and he’ll need to somehow accumulate better, stronger and more creative players than he’s got at his disposal currently. Good luck to him. Relatively unproven but so were all the worlds top managers at some point.
Pretty sure given he has spent most of his career there that he knows what is required in this league. If he can get a time out of this group he will have done a great job.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 30 Dec 18:50
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 18:34
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:31
Welcome aboard and good luck.
Ffs give the guy a chance, support the team.
Dont think a single person has said they wont give him a chance…
They really didn`t have to, work your way back through this thread and reflect.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 30 Dec 19:04
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:50
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 18:34
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Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:31
Welcome aboard and good luck.
Ffs give the guy a chance, support the team.
Dont think a single person has said they wont give him a chance…
They really didn`t have to, work your way back through this thread and reflect.
Where, again, nobody has said they wont give him a chance. Making observations and having reservations aren’t “not giving someone a chance”. They are expressing caution given our track record of managers recently.
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Mon 30 Dec 19:13
I see we’re still aiming for league 1 then.
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Mon 30 Dec 19:56
I`m kind of pumped for this.
It`s the unknown and he`s done some good stuff at Kelty. A lot of people here felt there`s a tune to be had from the squad and he might just be the man to play it.
It`s not exactly an attractive position to take over a big club in 9th. Established managers are taking too much risk if it backfires.
This is the make or break moment and I hope Tidser takes us to safety and advances his career.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 30 Dec 22:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 19:04
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:50
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Dave_1885, Mon 30 Dec 18:34
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Dandy Warhol, Mon 30 Dec 18:31
Welcome aboard and good luck.
Ffs give the guy a chance, support the team.
Dont think a single person has said they wont give him a chance…
They really didn`t have to, work your way back through this thread and reflect.
Where, again, nobody has said they wont give him a chance. Making observations and having reservations aren’t “not giving someone a chance”. They are expressing caution given our track record of managers recently.
OK, you`re determined to be linear about this, crack on, plenty have clearly given up on the guy before he`s even started.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 30 Dec 22:19
The ex management team have left us in a huge hole both league position wise and squad wise , can we really do any worse , if anything they should have been gone weeks, months ago .
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 30 Dec 22:53
Still baffled as to why we would overlook someone with managerial experience at this level for someone who hasn’t and on top of that have to pay compensation for both him and his inexperienced assistant too……
Option 1. Experienced manager. Pay no compensation and have funds for a badly needed player or two.
Option 2. Inexperienced duo that we need to pay Kelty for…… Maybe Tidser is planning to play..?
Post Edited (Mon 30 Dec 22:54)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 30 Dec 23:03
Quote:
desparado, Mon 30 Dec 22:53
Still baffled as to why we would overlook someone with managerial experience at this level for someone who hasn’t and on top of that have to pay compensation for both him and his inexperienced assistant too……
Option 1. Experienced manager. Pay no compensation and have funds for a badly needed player or two.
Option 2. Inexperienced duo that we need to pay Kelty for…… Maybe Tidser is planning to play..?
Who is this experienced manager that you know would definitely take our job.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 30 Dec 23:09
Have to remember that Murray is prob still being paid by raith, he’d be stupid to lose that by taking less money here.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 30 Dec 23:14
Quite simple:
1. Who says Murray wasn`t approached and he said no?
2. Is Murray still paid until he takes on a new role? If yes, why come here for a job when he can enjoy a nice wee brandy in front of the fire with his feet up while Raith pay him for doing nothing.
3. He had one good season at Raith where they went off the boiler at the end. Is he genuinely as good as people say?
4. All managerial appointments are a risk.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Mon 30 Dec 23:28
Not one of us knows anything about what is/has happening about the next manager. Unless you are on here as a board member and if so I hope you are watching and not commenting. The Kelty man seems to be doing a decent job with what he’s got. So did Murray at Raith. So did xxx at yyy.
Leave it to the board and back the new manager with huge hope and give him grace if improvement isn’t instant.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Tue 31 Dec 08:51
I suppose to counter the argument, why not take his garden leave money and sit and drink brandy is because, at best, it stalls his career and at worse, may hamper future work prospects.
Also sometimes people want to work. I’ve been in a similar situation myself where I was being paid for essentially seeing out my contract, but after 3 months of doing nothing was bored stiff so had to go and find another job (for a bit less money but it got me back in the game so too speak).
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 31 Dec 09:31
Quote:
desparado, Mon 30 Dec 22:53
Still baffled as to why we would overlook someone with managerial experience at this level for someone who hasn’t and on top of that have to pay compensation for both him and his inexperienced assistant too……
Option 1. Experienced manager. Pay no compensation and have funds for a badly needed player or two.
Option 2. Inexperienced duo that we need to pay Kelty for…… Maybe Tidser is planning to play..?
This is all based on the assumption that their salary demands and any bonuses etc are the same, which would seem very unlikely. What if they spoke to Murray and he gave the impression he’d be doing us a favour and wanted to be paid very handsomely for it, along with bonuses and assurances he could talk to top flight clubs if jobs were available? He seemed to put his hat in the ring for every job going, when he was at Raith
Then, on the other hand, what if Tidser seemed like he’d see this as a great opportunity and would be delighted to take that step up. Also shared his vision of where he thinks the club should be, what he thinks we need to do to achieve that and that aligned with the board’s views?
None of us know exactly what’s happened. But it seems incredibly naive to assume that Murray would definitely take the job and certainly to suggest that Murray would have been cheaper/mean more funds are available.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Tue 31 Dec 10:08
Compo for Kelty Hearts……
5 x Tracksuits, couple of footballs + a round of drinks from Big Jim should do it?
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Tue 31 Dec 10:23
Reeks of the job is yours tidser….but…there is no money for players in January……must develop young players….Suprising is not been announced….maybe thinking it over.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 31 Dec 10:25
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Tue 31 Dec 10:23
Reeks of the job is yours tidser….but…there is no money for players in January……must develop young players….Suprising is not been announced….maybe thinking it over.
That makes no sense, when there laying compensation for him and his assistant.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 31 Dec 10:43
Quote:
par-91, Tue 31 Dec 09:31
Quote:
desparado, Mon 30 Dec 22:53
Still baffled as to why we would overlook someone with managerial experience at this level for someone who hasn’t and on top of that have to pay compensation for both him and his inexperienced assistant too……
Option 1. Experienced manager. Pay no compensation and have funds for a badly needed player or two.
Option 2. Inexperienced duo that we need to pay Kelty for…… Maybe Tidser is planning to play..?
This is all based on the assumption that their salary demands and any bonuses etc are the same, which would seem very unlikely. What if they spoke to Murray and he gave the impression he’d be doing us a favour and wanted to be paid very handsomely for it, along with bonuses and assurances he could talk to top flight clubs if jobs were available? He seemed to put his hat in the ring for every job going, when he was at Raith
Then, on the other hand, what if Tidser seemed like he’d see this as a great opportunity and would be delighted to take that step up. Also shared his vision of where he thinks the club should be, what he thinks we need to do to achieve that and that aligned with the board’s views?
None of us know exactly what’s happened. But it seems incredibly naive to assume that Murray would definitely take the job and certainly to suggest that Murray would have been cheaper/mean more funds are available.
Murray seemingly knocked it back
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 31 Dec 10:54
Maybe he wasn’t even asked, Lesliepar?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 31 Dec 11:09
All speculation of course.
Whoever gets the job, it’s a new chapter, hopefully a much brighter one for the club and fans, so let’s get right behind the new management team.
Happy New Year to all Pars fans everywhere!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:07
Apparently deals in place for Tidser and his assistants.
Just trying to tie deal up with kelty. Apparently a bag of balls and isn’t enough this time
COYP
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:42
Does anyone actually know what the latest status is, or is it simply forum speculation ,mixed feedback ,some saying already done and dusted with Tidser ,some say negotiations ongoing with Murry .No statement from club so my thoughts are still decided by board
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Topic Originator: eastendalloapar
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:48
Has Tidser got a full time job outside of football? If so he will not be the cheap option.
matt forsyth
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:55
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 31 Dec 10:54
Maybe he wasn’t even asked, Lesliepar?
Possibley raymie but I heard from a good source that he was offered it and didny fancy it
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:56
Not sure if he is full time at Kelty, he is a player manager, albeit with less games these days, so he probably would be , at least his contract would be from when the conservatory people were throwing full time money at part time contracts (Higgy, Cardle etc)
Not seeing any confirmation yet, so will wait, but good luck if it is Tidser, he`s had to completely overhaul Kelty, so that`s some doing.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 31 Dec 12:58
Have to add, a player manager is the last thing we need! He will have enough to do as a manager, can imagine he will be registered for emergency and odd reserve game if needed.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Tue 31 Dec 13:01
Article taken from the Courier
Jason Thomson is convinced Michael Tidser will be ‘a good fit’ as the next Dunfermline manager.
The Pars were given permission to hold talks with the Kelty Hearts player-boss over the weekend and a deal looks set to be finalised this week ahead of the trip to face Partick Thistle.
At just 34, Tidser is perhaps a bold and surprise choice to replace the sacked James McPake as boss at East End Park.
But Thomson, who played alongside Tidser and then under him last season at Kelty after joining from Arbroath, believes it will prove the right one.
“I’m personally delighted for him,” said Thomson, who spent the first half of the 2011/12 season on loan at Dunfermline from Hearts.
“He’s always shown the qualities of wanting to go and be a manager.
“In management sense, he’s not been one for a long time, just a season and a half. But he’s grasped it.
“If you think back to a season and a half ago, when he took the Kelty job, there probably was a bit of surprise and he had to learn quickly there.
“But he didn’t just learn quickly, he did well.
‘High standards’
“He’s young. It’s a huge opportunity but, at the same time, he’ll not just be going there as an opportunity, he’ll be going in to do well.
“One thing I’ll say about him as a manager is he’s got high standards – on and off the park. He likes things done right.
“And he’s got his own beliefs and thoughts. Like most managers these days do, he likes to get the ball down and play.
“Anyone who has seen any Kelty games knows that they will do that.
“So, I think it’ll be a good fit. As much as Dunfermline will be good for Tids, I think it’ll be good for the club.”
Tidser will be taking over a side currently sitting second-bottom in the Championship and with work to do to avoid a relegation play-off scrap at the end of the season.
“Dunfermline will have a young, hungry manager who has played in the leagues and knows the players,” added Thomson, who hung up his boots in the summer aged 36.
“You just hope he goes and gets time – like every manager, I guess.
“But especially at Dunfermline, because they’re struggling. They’re second bottom of the league.
‘Expectations’
“He’ll certainly go in and put demands on the players. At the end of the day, the players are a big part of the reason why they’re sitting second bottom.
“I’m sure that’ll be the remit when it goes in: ‘Keep us in the league’. It’ll be as straightforward as that.
“Dunfermline are a big club, in the grand scheme of things. So there are expectations.
“Fans will be wanting results really quickly, so he’ll be hoping to make sure he hits the ground running.”
Post Edited (Tue 31 Dec 13:02)
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Tue 31 Dec 13:13
And from the Dunfermline Press
Tidser wouldn`t be drawn on the link with the Pars but on Kelty`s first half of the season he said: "First class. Absolutely first class. I couldn`t really ask for any more.
"Yes, there have been moments, but they`ve certainly grown as a group. I`ve said this before - every manager has their reasons, their gripes, and their moans - but there`s not too many times this season where I`ve been left disappointed.
"Once or twice, maybe, where we just weren`t at it, but for the majority of the first half of the season, we`ve grown as a group, we`ve got more of an understanding, and we won`t change. We`ll never change the way we play.
"If that`s entertaining football and proper football, as I see it, then that`s the way it needs to be. I think that`s the best way to win games of football."
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 31 Dec 15:14
Anyone know what formation he played at Kelty?
Will be interesting to see if he can get us playing any form of attacking football, I’m not sure there’s anyone in the squad you could build a team around and we don’t have a single player who can carry the ball forward, has any pace to beat a man or is a wide player (KRH the only option but hasn’t done anything at this level yet)
Hoping he’ll do well but fancy he’s on a hiding to nothing unless he can bring 2-3 in early in January. The squad is just missing so many key element to a quick attacking team.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 31 Dec 16:57
If that is the case (which I tend to agree) he needs time, any new manager requires it.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Tue 31 Dec 17:27
whoever comes in what a job they have it`s an ugly job right now.
Second bottom and now adrift and a squad of players simply not good enough.
Would be a brave manager to take that on.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 31 Dec 17:36
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 31 Dec 15:14
Anyone know what formation he played at Kelty.
Tends to favour an attacking 4-3-3 formation. Likes to play out from the back but with a view to zipping it about and getting up the pitch quickly. I think he will do well here
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 31 Dec 17:55
Quote:
LEGEND85, Tue 31 Dec 17:27
whoever comes in what a job they have it`s an ugly job right now.
Second bottom and now adrift and a squad of players simply not good enough.
Would be a brave manager to take that on.
Thought exactly the same after the Morton result today. How McPake thought this squad was good enough is beyond me
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 31 Dec 18:40
Don’t think McPake ever thought that.
He’s brought in players but was significantly hand strung from the beginning - you can easily argue the players he did secure have flopped but the last transfer window we were so late to the party we shot ourselves in the foot.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 31 Dec 18:58
Berkey, Tue 31 Dec 15:14
Anyone know what formation he played at Kelty.
Tends to favour an attacking 4-3-3 formation. Likes to play out from the back but with a view to zipping it about and getting up the pitch quickly. I think he will do well here.
We need a manager who isn`t scared to change formation depending on the opposition or how the game is going.
If a manager is going to stick to the same formation no matter what, we`d have been as well keeping McPake.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 31 Dec 19:22
Good point. I just don’t know what formations we can actually play which will be effective as mcpake never found any and this was his team.
Poor in midfield and on the wings and only one decent striker who plays 50% of games. How do you fashion out a competitive team out of that nevermind be decent to watch.
It’s a tough ask and coaching alone will not cut it.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 31 Dec 20:10
Pretty poor that we don’t have a man in place already.
Not surprised though considering the multiple pigs ears our board/owners now have….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 31 Dec 20:12
Quote:
desparado, Tue 31 Dec 20:10
Pretty poor that we don’t have a man in place already.
Not surprised though considering the multiple pigs ears our board/owners now have….
This 100%.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 31 Dec 20:40
Quote:
desparado, Tue 31 Dec 20:10
Pretty poor that we don’t have a man in place already.
Not surprised though considering the multiple pigs ears our board/owners now have….
Honestly, I think this is absolutely bonkers thinking. Like you’d have it all tied up by now eh
He was sacked on the 23rd of December. What are you actually expecting?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Tue 31 Dec 20:41
I’m working on the basis that no news from our CEO/Board is that our negotiations to bring in a new Manager are still ongoing? Hopefully that is the case and that the prospective new owners are involved in developments. Maybe I’m being a tad naive? Time will tell.
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Topic Originator: Hockeyboy
Date: Tue 31 Dec 21:57
Whilst I absolutely get the negativity/doubt about Tidser let`s compare his stats with Jack Ross nearly 10 years ago when he left League 1 Alloa (having failed to save them from relegation the season before) to joint St Mirren, who were languishing at the bottom end of the Championship to not only save them that season but he led them to promotion the next year........(maybe I have missed something or maybe the NYE alcohol has kicked in) but let`s give the Tidser a chance, if appointed, who knows maybe he is the second coming after Leish......#COYP
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 31 Dec 22:31
Press are suggesting it`s not 100% it`s Tidser. I`m assuming it is though or John`s not going to Lanzarote on Thursday!
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 1 Jan 00:47
Love the optimism hockey, only thing is st midden hadn’t been relegated to league 1 already, came back up and stupidly kept half the team that got them relegated and wandered why it hadn’t improved!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Parallel Lines
Date: Wed 1 Jan 15:01
We won`t be anywhere near the promotion playoffs.
If he can keep us up with involvement in the other playoffs. That will be the best we can hope for. Close season ditch all the out of contract players. Build again. It may take two or three years to build a squad capable of challenging for the league. But to go down would be an absolute **** show.
I looked for my pet in all the books on animals and birds and then I found it in the Book of Revelations.Marty Feldman
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 1 Jan 16:50
The fact we have a game in 3 days and still no confirmation on a manager sums us up under the current lot at the helm. So potentially we could have the scout or goalkeeper coach in charge.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Wed 01 Jan 16:52)
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 1 Jan 16:54
Wouldn’t blame Tidser for telling the club to do one. Imagine he has been told he has little room to make moves in the January window. We can’t move forward until the club is sold…the silence is deafening.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 1 Jan 17:06
We could have had a manager in who was a free agent. No guarantee of success of course whoever we get.
However a free agent may have had some budget to bring in two or three players. If we don’t it is 9th at best.
Going for someone who requires compensation paid is crazy. That must be the stumbling block to the delay, which makes it even more bizarre.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 1 Jan 17:12
I`m going to invent a narrative I don`t like and then get angry about it.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 1 Jan 17:21
What a state to get in
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 1 Jan 17:21
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Wed 1 Jan 16:54
Wouldn’t blame Tidser for telling the club to do one. Imagine he has been told he has little room to make moves in the January window. We can’t move forward until the club is sold…the silence is deafening.
You don`t half talk nonsense. McPake was emptied 9 days ago and 4 of them are "down days".
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Wed 01 Jan 17:23)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 1 Jan 17:25
Quote:
Parallel Lines, Wed 1 Jan 15:01
But to go down would be an absolute **** show.
Actually annoys me how some forum posters on here and on other boards, just meekly suggest that we should accept we are down and just plan for it and Tidser is part of that plan, due to having League 1 experience. It was an embarrassment being at that level previously and it would be an utter disgrace for us to return there and everything possible should be put in place to ensure that never happens again.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:03
Buster, unless tidser gets money to bring in 3 players much better than what we have in key areas I suspect we’re looking at the relegation playoffs at best.
In the playoffs it’s a bit of a lottery but Tidser’s experiences against those same clubs already this season might give us the edge that makes the difference.
If he’s decent he should at least be able to set this team up to beat most league ones side at home at least with the current squad.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:29
There will be money in January folks. Not GMBH anymore.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:32
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Wed 1 Jan 17:25
Quote:
Parallel Lines, Wed 1 Jan 15:01
But to go down would be an absolute **** show.
Actually annoys me how some forum posters on here and on other boards, just meekly suggest that we should accept we are down and just plan for it and Tidser is part of that plan, due to having League 1 experience. It was an embarrassment being at that level previously and it would be an utter disgrace for us to return there and everything possible should be put in place to ensure that never happens again.
Who has suggested Tidser is part of a plan that involves going down?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DanPar1803
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:35
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Wed 1 Jan 18:29
There will be money in January folks. Not GMBH anymore.
We reckon new owners are in during January? If not would GMBH be investing any money into us for the window? 🤔
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:44
GMBH are done. Just formalities getting that lot out. New investors are financing the sacking of McPake, new signings in January and compo to Kelty. It`s in their interests to do this now.
I wouldn`t expect miracles between now and the end of the season but staying up is the aim. Hopefully not through the play-off but we will survive either way IMO.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:52
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 1 Jan 17:12
I`m going to invent a narrative I don`t like and then get angry about it.
Genuine lol
I`ve got, `Tidser is just the Americans stooge` on my bingo card 😂
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 1 Jan 18:58
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Wed 1 Jan 18:44
GMBH are done. Just formalities getting that lot out. New investors are financing the sacking of McPake, new signings in January and compo to Kelty. It`s in their interests to do this now.
I wouldn`t expect miracles between now and the end of the season but staying up is the aim. Hopefully not through the play-off but we will survive either way IMO.
Will believe it when I see it, but currently nothing is bringing me hope of new investors being in before end of month or a mass influx of cash to save us from our position.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Wed 1 Jan 19:12
Dave_1885 wrote:
> Will believe it when I see it, but currently nothing is
> bringing me hope of new investors being in before end of month
> or a mass influx of cash to save us from our position.
Change is on its way Dave.
We are no longer a pet project of retired old men with nothing better to do with their spare time.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 1 Jan 19:47
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Wed 1 Jan 19:12
Dave_1885 wrote:
> Will believe it when I see it, but currently nothing is
> bringing me hope of new investors being in before end of month
> or a mass influx of cash to save us from our position.
Change is on its way Dave.
We are no longer a pet project of retired old men with nothing better to do with their spare time.
What utter p!sh 😂😂
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 1 Jan 20:03
Only thing I’ll say is the absolute silence is deafening. I can’t imagine Cook has long.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Wed 1 Jan 20:04
Dave_1885 wrote:
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> What utter p!sh 😂😂
What do you mean Dave? Change is a coming dude.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 1 Jan 20:08
Quote:
NMCmassive, Wed 1 Jan 20:03
Only thing I’ll say is the absolute silence is deafening. I can’t imagine Cook has long.
Id hope that Cooks severance package is included in the takeover - an absolute disaster of a tenure
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Wed 1 Jan 20:21
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 1 Jan 20:08
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NMCmassive, Wed 1 Jan 20:03
Only thing I’ll say is the absolute silence is deafening. I can’t imagine Cook has long.
Id hope that Cooks severance package is included in the takeover - an absolute disaster of a tenure
This is my biggest regret. He’s managed to pull the wool over the new investors’ eyes too
Another absentee landlord and he is allowed to run amok. Depressing.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 1 Jan 20:32
Quote:
Jeffery, Wed 1 Jan 18:52
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 1 Jan 17:12
I`m going to invent a narrative I don`t like and then get angry about it.
Genuine lol
I`ve got, `Tidser is just the Americans stooge` on my bingo card 😂
I had a good chuckle at that too. Saved me posting similar, but that is what folks do on here all the time.
It would be funny if it wasn`t so irritating
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Thu 2 Jan 09:06
I resent all this chat about retired old men 🤔🤭🤦♂️🤣
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Thu 2 Jan 09:49
Anyone know if John`s still going on holiday? If he`s in Lanzarote, who will sort the team out?
I was at the Thistle v QP game last weekend. Thistle looked strong, could pass the ball about well but failed to really put QP away. After their defeat to Morton I`m hoping they`ve just hit a rocky patch or it could be a difficult watch.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 2 Jan 10:15
Surely tidser will be announced today and he’ll get a couple of training sessions in before Sat.
The club won’t have the money to reimburse John if he has to cancel or come back from his holiday. Maybe a joint management combo of liesh and Sammy for the Partick game!
We just don’t have the players, yes the fight and endeavour might pick up under new management but at the end of the day he’s being asked to take a team with a league 1 midfield and attack (if Kane not fit) and get something from places like firhill and 9 times out of 10 it’s just not going to happen.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 10:34
Berkey, can I begin by wishing you a Happy New Year.
I`m not sure how to word this without upsetting you but I do wonder what the appeal of coming on here every day on every thread saying the same things repeatedly? We get that you have no hope or optimism for anything Pars related. Everything the team does or club tries to do is met with negativity. When we win it`s because the other team is poor. We`re always lucky. We never deserve anything according to you? I do wonder if you`re like this in real life? I`ve looked and you don`t post on other threads on here so can`t say (tbf it`s none of my business!) but was just curious.
It`s not easy being a Pars fan at the best of times but personally reading your posts make it a lot harder. I`m making a new years resolution to cut out the snidey sarcastic childish comments. Can I suggest you possibly try and be a tad more glass half full this year. I`m not for one minute suggesting blind optimism but a new management team are imminent & new owners are on the way. We have to hope things will improve otherwise what`s the point of continuing to support this fine wee club of ours?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jan 10:35)
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Thu 2 Jan 10:44
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 10:34
Berkey, can I begin by wishing you a Happy New Year.
I`m not sure how to word this without upsetting you but I do wonder what the appeal of coming on here every day on every thread saying the same things repeatedly? We get that you have no hope or optimism for anything Pars related. Everything the team does or club tries to do is met with negativity. When we win it`s because the other team is poor. We`re always lucky. We never deserve anything according to you? I do wonder if you`re like this in real life? I`ve looked and you don`t post on other threads on here so can`t say (tbf it`s none of my business!) but was just curious.
It`s not easy being a Pars fan at the best of times but personally reading your posts make it a lot harder. I`m making a new years resolution to cut out the snidey sarcastic childish comments. Can I suggest you possibly try and be a tad more glass half full this year. I`m not for one minute suggesting blind optimism but a new management team are imminent & new owners are on the way. We have to hope things will improve otherwise what`s the point of continuing to support this fine wee club of ours?
Well said
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 2 Jan 12:10
To be fair to Berkey, maybe he`s just pointing out the limitations of our squad, and therefore not to expect too much from the new management team, if they don`t get a lot of new faces in.
The position Mcpake has left us in , possibly 7 points adrift of our closest challengers, and with limited squad, 9th could be the best the new manager can get , hopefully win the playoffs, and start again with a clean slate next season.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Jan 12:37
To be fair to Berkey, this season hasn’t really had any positives in it so far. The odd good result is fine, but as an overall its been a shambles.
Granted, theres also no need to continue banging on about it or certain players (or dragging them into unrelated topics) every week.
On Tidser - clearly its not as black and white as the papers have said. Maybe we have other options in there? If we don’t, he really should have been signed up pre NYE. Worrying that we cant reach an agreement with a part time club over a manager and assistant - if that’s what’s holding up the deal.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 2 Jan 12:43
Da no 1, I am optimistic that tidser will be an improvement on mcpake and we will be set up better and fitter but I have very little optimism this group of players.
I’ll defo be giving tidser a fair crack of the whip and hoping he can bring in his own players and get us back to being a decent attacking team who look a threat and have players who can get the fans out their seat. We haven’t had one since before Grant took over.
Let’s see who he brings in this month and if he can get something more out of some of these players before they depart in the summer.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 2 Jan 12:49
I`m enjoying the new lack of fitness narrative. Seems to have become the accepted reality now that McPake has gone.
If Tidser comes in, he would be wise to play on that - new managers love that line, regardless of whether there is any truth in it at all.
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Topic Originator: gopars
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:07
DA-go, watched the Falkirk game with my brother who doesn`t normally watch Scottish football and has probably not been to a Pars game in the last 20 years, the first thing he said was the Pars are looking unfit, slow and lacking in basic skills. If the layman can see it and a large number of fans can see it then why is it a narrative?
Cut me do I not bleed black and white.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:10
Maybe I`m optimistic because I`ve seen how these players can play if set up correctly and their attitude is spot on.
Also I`d argue our league position has very little to do with fitness (injuries are a different issue)
Let`s just see how it all pans out.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:20
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 2 Jan 12:49
I`m enjoying the new lack of fitness narrative. Seems to have become the accepted reality now that McPake has gone.
If Tidser comes in, he would be wise to play on that - new managers love that line, regardless of whether there is any truth in it at all.
Thats not a “new” narrative. Todd and McCann have looked like they are unfit ever since they broke into the first team 😂 blowing out their backsides after 10 mins every game.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:25
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 2 Jan 13:20
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 2 Jan 12:49
I`m enjoying the new lack of fitness narrative. Seems to have become the accepted reality now that McPake has gone.
If Tidser comes in, he would be wise to play on that - new managers love that line, regardless of whether there is any truth in it at all.
Thats not a “new” narrative. Todd and McCann have looked like they are unfit ever since they broke into the first team 😂 blowing out their backsides after 10 mins every game.
I could not disagree more.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:26
To be fair what really is there to be positive about? Our best player misses too many games to make a real difference and the rest of the squad are bang average that struggles to chip in with goals.
Chris kane is our top scorer in the league with 4 then it`s cooper with 3 making 14 and 16 appearances it`s hardly been a season of goals which is why we are where we are in the table.
Hopefully whoever gets the job can also bring a few players in to improve the quality and get us out of the playoffs.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:30
So do we just give up Cammy? Is that what you`d do? Or do you focus on the games ahead and forget the past?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:41
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 13:30
So do we just give up Cammy? Is that what you`d do? Or do you focus on the games ahead and forget the past?
That`s not what I said though was it ? The comment was that Berkey has been negative and I gave a balanced post on potentially why he feels that way. There isn`t really much to be positive about regarding this season so far. We had massive games v Raith and Morton both teams who were close to us and we kept with mcpake losing 2 nil both games. Mcpake should have been gone before those games or at least after the rovers game. We sacked him too late and with no news on a replacement and his stand in going on holiday things aren`t looking much better going into another important game. If we stop making bad decisions off the pitch it could improve the results on it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:48
My point was that his incessant repetitive negative comments on every single thread on a daily basis are wearing a bit thin. If you and Dave want to repeat the same thoughts as him then you bash on. It seems to be the way on here.
Might be time for me to draw a line under .net.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 2 Jan 13:57
Quote:
gopars, Thu 2 Jan 13:07
DA-go, watched the Falkirk game with my brother who doesn`t normally watch Scottish football and has probably not been to a Pars game in the last 20 years, the first thing he said was the Pars are looking unfit, slow and lacking in basic skills. If the layman can see it and a large number of fans can see it then why is it a narrative?
We`re clearly slow and lacking in the basics. I`ve watched us consistently for the last 20 years and that`s pretty clear. It is why we need a new manager. I don`t think other teams have ever looked fitter than us throughout McPake`s time in charge, however.
McCann`s body language isn`t great at the best of times - to address the point - but I reckon his stats for distance covered are up there with just about anyone else.
The reason Falkirk perhaps looked fresher is because they had the ball for long periods and we can`t string 4 passes together.
We`re not 9th because we`ve been gassed in the last 20 minutes and let other teams run over the top of us.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 2 Jan 14:11
There`s no way we are as fit or well drilled as some if the other teams in the league, it`s not a narrative, McPake`s heart wasn`t in this season from the start imo.
That being said we`ve a new start coming up, we have to get behind it and see what happens.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Jan 14:12
Not sure about fitness but the team often look like they`ve just met in the car park before the game.
Hopefully Tidser can introduce some consistency into the team.
Also hoping he`s announced today if he IS the successful candidate.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 2 Jan 14:29
I’d imagine it would be Friday before any announcement comes in.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 14:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 13:48
My point was that his incessant repetitive negative comments on every single thread on a daily basis are wearing a bit thin. If you and Dave want to repeat the same thoughts as him then you bash on. It seems to be the way on here.
Might be time for me to draw a line under .net.
It is a fans forum so he along with everyone else is entitled to his opinion. If you don`t agree with it you can scroll on by or have a discussion on it. Unfortunately when things are as they are now you will find more comments about how poor we are instead of other views.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:16
You`re also entitled to voice the opinion that a fellow poster states the same thing, over and over again, every day, following a poor performance.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:25
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 2 Jan 15:16
You`re also entitled to voice the opinion that a fellow poster states the same thing, over and over again, every day, following a poor performance.
Absolutely but we all know how Berkey feels regardless if we agree with his assessment or not he has the right to post it. All I`m saying is if folk don`t like seeing what he posts instead of asking him to post something else just scroll past and if it`s annoying certain people then maybe this forum isn`t for them.
Now let`s get back onto the original topic of tidser. If he is the manager who we appoint to replace mcpake I for one wish him well. It will be refreshing to see us having a go at teams more than previous games and hopefully tightening up at the back.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:30
Maybe some folk just aren`t cut out for the ups and downs of following a team like the Pars?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:37
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 15:30
Maybe some folk just aren`t cut out for the ups and downs of following a team like the Pars?
Maybe the lack of ups at recent times have scunnered some folk.
Don’t see the need to go over the same stuff daily though.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:38
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 15:30
Maybe some folk just aren`t cut out for the ups and downs of following a team like the Pars?
You lasted 2 days without making a childish comment congratulations 👏
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:43
I am a bit surprised Tidser hasn’t been announced yet, given how much momentum this has in the public domain now and how close we are to the Partick game.
This and obviously the question on everyone’s lips at the moment…did oor John get on that plane to Lanzarote?
If he’s appointed, is he in the dug out on Saturday immediately or do we have someone cover with him in the stands.
Anyhoo, let’s face it, this season has been absolutely honking so far but change is coming in terms of new owners and management so let’s choose to look forward with cautious optimism than dwell on the worst case scenario, we all know what that is but I have faith that Tidser will get us out of this mess, whether that is via the playoffs or otherwise, objective is just to stay up now, he meets that, then he’s had a successful start and we can rebuild.
It’s never easy being a Pars fan, but it makes those highs feel much bigger when they do come around and they will again.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:45
Quote:
Berry, Thu 2 Jan 15:43
I am a bit surprised Tidser hasn’t been announced yet, given how much momentum this has in the public domain now and how close we are to the Partick game.
This and obviously the question on everyone’s lips at the moment…did oor John get on that plane to Lanzarote?
If he’s appointed, is he in the dug out on Saturday immediately or do we have someone cover with him in the stands.
Anyhoo, let’s face it, this season has been absolutely honking so far but change is coming in terms of new owners and management so let’s choose to look forward with cautious optimism than dwell on the worst case scenario, we all know what that is but I have faith that Tidser will get us out of this mess, whether that is via the playoffs or otherwise, objective is just to stay up now, he meets that, then he’s had a successful start and we can rebuild.
It’s never easy being a Pars fan, but it makes those highs feel much bigger when they do come around and they will again.
If John isn`t available and no manager has been appointed I wonder if we have any other staff members who have the required coaching badges to take the side?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:49
Mo is picking the team, he has plenty experience!🤭
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:54
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Thu 2 Jan 15:38
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 15:30
Maybe some folk just aren`t cut out for the ups and downs of following a team like the Pars?
You lasted 2 days without making a childish comment congratulations 👏
I don`t consider that comment childish in any way at all. Maybe you should take your own advice and just scroll past my comments?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 2 Jan 15:55
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 2 Jan 15:49
Mo is picking the team, he has plenty experience!🤭
Mo was a great coach
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:01
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cammypar 1995, Thu 2 Jan 15:38
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da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 15:30
Maybe some folk just aren`t cut out for the ups and downs of following a team like the Pars?
You lasted 2 days without making a childish comment congratulations 👏
It`s a perfectly reasonable comment to make, some folks seem to take little or no enjoyment from the experience.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:06
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da_no_1, Thu 2 Jan 13:48
My point was that his incessant repetitive negative comments on every single thread on a daily basis are wearing a bit thin. If you and Dave want to repeat the same thoughts as him then you bash on. It seems to be the way on here.
Might be time for me to draw a line under .net.
I honestly don’t know what you’re complaining about? We’re sitting second bottom of the league, the gap to the teams above is growing, the squads no up to scratch, the clubs going through a sale while all the rumours are flying around the pubs yet it’s stone wall silence from the club for months… but Berkey being negative is wearing thin 🤷🏻♂️
And btw Berkey is generally being proved right about the squad atm even if I don’t agree with everything he saying 😂
COYP
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:12
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NMCmassive, Thu 2 Jan 16:06
And btw Berkey is generally being proved right about the squad atm even if I don’t agree with everything he saying 😂
What`s that phrase? Even a stopped clock...
My issue is that virtually every thread ends up with the same arguments being made.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:13
It’s a worry that there has been no announcement yet.
I’d imagine that Kelty are playing hardball and I don’t blame them one bit?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jan 16:13)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:15
I would imagine our board are incompetent
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:24
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fcda, Thu 2 Jan 16:12
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NMCmassive, Thu 2 Jan 16:06
And btw Berkey is generally being proved right about the squad atm even if I don’t agree with everything he saying 😂
What`s that phrase? Even a stopped clock...
My issue is that virtually every thread ends up with the same arguments being made.
Would you prefer new arguments for the same problems?
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:36
No doubt these things take time, with a due diligence process on both sides. There may be other considerations such as who he will bring with him if he comes in. It`s the holiday break too so it may take a few extra days. If it wasn`t a done deal, I would doubt that the press would have been briefed as they seem to have been.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:47
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fcda, Thu 2 Jan 16:12
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NMCmassive, Thu 2 Jan 16:06
And btw Berkey is generally being proved right about the squad atm even if I don’t agree with everything he saying 😂
What`s that phrase? Even a stopped clock...
My issue is that virtually every thread ends up with the same arguments being made.
But his points are generally valid with how poor we are and to be fair to him the table shows he`s not wrong.
We have been mediocre and we could see we were not good enough half way through that league cup campaign. You could probably argue that with the loss of finances alone not qualifying from that group was enough to cost mcpake his job. We stuck with him and not a lot if anything changed apart from how far we are adrift of the chasing pack.
It`s hard to argue with that and to ask the guy to be positive about it is a stretch. The club has been poorly run on and off the pitch under the watchful eye of Cook and the Germans and we can only hope it changes under the new guy.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 16:53
For you Cammy from my post earlier today.
"I`m not for one minute suggesting blind optimism but a new management team are imminent & new owners are on the way. We have to hope things will improve otherwise what`s the point of continuing to support this fine wee club of ours?"
I'm not going to continue with this discussion as I can't seem to get my point over clearly.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jan 16:54)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:23
My point was that his incessant repetitive negative comments on every single thread on a daily basis are wearing a bit thin. If you and Dave want to repeat the same thoughts as him then you bash on. It seems to be the way on here.
Might be time for me to draw a line under .net.
You said he keeps posting negative comments on every thread. I`m trying to make it as basic for you as I can to why he might come across as negative. What exactly is there to be positive about? We still don`t have a manager in place and no news on the new investment front and still looking likely to be involved in a relegation play off come the end of the season. Please see my earlier post if .net is getting a bit much for you.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:28
Tidser has declined the contract offer. Back to the drawing board. Really concerned about Saturday`s game now.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:33
Cammy, the key word is repetitive
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:35
Cammy you win. Just ignore me in future. I promise I won`t respond to you on here again as we clearly are of different mindsets.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:35
Quote:
ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Thu 2 Jan 17:28
Tidser has declined the contract offer. Back to the drawing board. Really concerned about Saturday`s game now.
Let’s hope he hasn’t
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:39
Quote:
ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Thu 2 Jan 17:28
Tidser has declined the contract offer. Back to the drawing board. Really concerned about Saturday`s game now.
If that`s true, shows how far we have fallen when we can`t even entice someone from Kelty Hearts.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:47
Monday, Daily Record:
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser.
Thursday, poster here:
Tidser has declined the contract offer.
what changed then?
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:47
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CrossPar, Thu 2 Jan 17:39
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ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Thu 2 Jan 17:28
Tidser has declined the contract offer. Back to the drawing board. Really concerned about Saturday`s game now.
If that`s true, shows how far we have fallen when we can`t even entice someone from Kelty Hearts.
Petrie knocked it back before for a similar reason. Good full time job and good part time wage. Hard to take a gamble to go full time when you`ve got a mortgage. Kids etc.
No-one knows how long in football you have before your could be out of a job
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: SAP PAR
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:51
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 2 Jan 17:47
Monday, Daily Record:
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser.
Thursday, poster here:
Tidser has declined the contract offer.
what changed then?
Assuming the Daily Record was correct then any number of things including Kelty making him a better offer to stay.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:52
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ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Thu 2 Jan 17:28
Tidser has declined the contract offer. Back to the drawing board. Really concerned about Saturday`s game now.
Serious question if McLaughlan has gone on holiday do we have a qualified coach to take the team on Saturday? If not will that mean we can`t fulfill the fixture resulting in a loss ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Thu 2 Jan 17:53
If it`s true. This is an Internet forum after all. If however it is true then he can`t be that excited about coming to us so he can bolt as far as I`m concerned. He knows we`re not swimming in cash so I don`t know what he`s expecting.
Time for the board to look elsewhere.
That`s if it`s true of course. Pinch of salt n all that.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 2 Jan 18:23
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 2 Jan 17:47
Monday, Daily Record:
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser.
Thursday, poster here:
Tidser has declined the contract offer.
what changed then?
Could be that we can’t cover the compensation figure ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Jan 18:33
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Raymie the Legend, Thu 2 Jan 18:23
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GJS93, Thu 2 Jan 17:47
Monday, Daily Record:
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser.
Thursday, poster here:
Tidser has declined the contract offer.
what changed then?
Could be that we can’t cover the compensation figure ?
And so the plot thickens……..
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Thu 2 Jan 18:42
Kelty don’t strike me as a club that would hold the future development back of any of their employees.
Probably the 1st time in their history (junior/senior) that they have had to deal with a situation like this and don’t really know how to handle the situation.
They are losing management team and 1st team player and need to replace mid season when they are currently having the best season in their history.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 2 Jan 18:46
There may be some sort of player loan deal to work out
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 2 Jan 19:00
Where is it reported that he has turned us down?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 2 Jan 19:04
Only on here
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 2 Jan 19:30
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RMGpar, Thu 2 Jan 19:00
Where is it reported that he has turned us down?
Source: Trust me bro
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 2 Jan 19:40
Been told Gmbh moved the goalposts re Tidsers offer.
I`ve no idea if the info is credible, but it`s now been mentioned to me twice today from two completely different, unrelated sources.
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jan 19:42)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 2 Jan 20:05
As long as B&C are at our club we will forever be useless…..
New owners need to bin the boys club and pronto….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 2 Jan 20:41
Quote:
Athletico, Thu 2 Jan 19:40
Been told Gmbh moved the goalposts re Tidsers offer.
I`ve no idea if the info is credible, but it`s now been mentioned to me twice today from two completely different, unrelated sources.
Will ask another source tonight at work 🫢
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Topic Originator: ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife
Date: Thu 2 Jan 21:13
Hamish French has been asked to step into the dugout on Saturday, stepping up from the youth teams.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 2 Jan 21:19
Surprised Monty wasn’t asked….Complete and utter joke of a club. No disrespect to the Silver fox….a man of integrity unlike the rest of those charlatans at our club.
B & C . Please just Go !
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 2 Jan 21:55
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ParsAreTheLoveOfMyLife, Thu 2 Jan 21:13
Hamish French has been asked to step into the dugout on Saturday, stepping up from the youth teams.
I heard Bert Paton was helping him out.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:13
TBF the club has had enough time to appoint a new manager. Why does it take so long for the club to do anything with transfers/managers etc.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:19
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Alter Ego, Thu 2 Jan 22:13
TBF the club has had enough time to appoint a new manager. Why does it take so long for the club to do anything with transfers/managers etc.
But it sounds like they have and it`s the paperwork that`s taking time. You`re forgetting we got rid 2 days before Christmas so although it`s been a week and a half, 4 days of that have been public holidays.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:36
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Alter Ego, Thu 2 Jan 22:13
TBF the club has had enough time to appoint a new manager. Why does it take so long for the club to do anything with transfers/managers etc.
We parted ways with McPake on December 23rd. Considering business days since then, and accounting for public holidays, we have experienced four and a half days (with Christmas eve being counted as a half day).
Although our football club might have diligently worked through the holidays to resolve matters on our side, it does not imply that the pertinent third parties were operational.
Indeed, McPake ought to have been dismissed weeks prior, which would have prevented this predicament. However, it is what it is.
Post Edited (Thu 02 Jan 22:39)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:39
But our neighbours Raith have Robson in and he’s started working with the team?
Yet again the club is falling behind!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:48
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Alter Ego, Thu 2 Jan 22:39
But our neighbours Raith have Robson in and he’s started working with the team?
Yet again the club is falling behind!
Robson was without a club. I expect they had prior notice of O`Neill leaving too.
From the rumours on here, we approached Murray who said no first. We then went to Tidser who is presumably contracted as both a manager and a player.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Thu 2 Jan 22:49
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Alter Ego, Thu 2 Jan 22:39
But our neighbours Raith have Robson in and he’s started working with the team?
Yet again the club is falling behind!
Raith Rovers released a statement on the 21st. I think that the bid was accepted earlier in the week, marking his final game in charge on the 20th.
Collins was still in the country on December 28th, as I was on the train with him to Edinburgh.
However, I sense that you are in a mindset where nothing seems satisfactory. The club is undergoing an exhilarating transition, and I believe this will propel us forward.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Thu 2 Jan 23:31
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Thu 2 Jan 22:36
Quote:
Alter Ego, Thu 2 Jan 22:13
TBF the club has had enough time to appoint a new manager. Why does it take so long for the club to do anything with transfers/managers etc.
We parted ways with McPake on December 23rd. Considering business days since then, and accounting for public holidays, we have experienced four and a half days (with Christmas eve being counted as a half day).
Although our football club might have diligently worked through the holidays to resolve matters on our side, it does not imply that the pertinent third parties were operational.
Indeed, McPake ought to have been dismissed weeks prior, which would have prevented this predicament. However, it is what it is.
Far too sensible
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Fri 3 Jan 07:14
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 2 Jan 18:23
Quote:
GJS93, Thu 2 Jan 17:47
Monday, Daily Record:
Dunfermline Athletic have agreed personal terms with Michael Tidser.
The Fife club have agreed a two-and-a-half year deal with Tidser.
Thursday, poster here:
Tidser has declined the contract offer.
what changed then?
Could be that we can’t cover the compensation figure ?
A got told that`s he`s dropping about 150 a week in wages to go full time at dunfermline.
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Fri 3 Jan 12:09
He has said his goodbyes to the squad. Could well be a tail between his legs moment tomorrow leading Kelty unless he is on some king of gardening leave whilst things are sorted
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Fri 3 Jan 12:12
Courier suggesting McGlaughlan took training yesterday and is set to take the team at Partick tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Fri 3 Jan 12:31
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PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
A "got told" as you put it from someone who plays for kelty.. so just wait and see what happens......
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Fri 3 Jan 12:46
John Robertson in today`s Evening News saying he is ready to get back into football. Another option for us?
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Fri 3 Jan 13:40
Will McBookie give me any odds on Leish taking the team for Saturday?
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Fri 3 Jan 13:41
Tidser still keen to join the pars, Contract and terms agreed. Kelty want an upper 5 figure fee, but his contract runs out in May. Michael Wood update on Twitter a short time ago.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Fri 3 Jan 13:56
Quote:
CrossPar, Fri 3 Jan 12:46
John Robertson in today`s Evening News saying he is ready to get back into football. Another option for us?
So is Duncan ferguson lol
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 3 Jan 14:51
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 12:31
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
A "got told" as you put it from someone who plays for kelty.. so just wait and see what happens......
It makes all the difference when you reveal who or what the reliable source is. All too often, it`s a random fan, a mate down the pub, or ma dogs grannie`s budgie.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Fri 3 Jan 15:10
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 14:51
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 12:31
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
A "got told" as you put it from someone who plays for kelty.. so just wait and see what happens......
It makes all the difference when you reveal who or what the reliable source is. All too often, it`s a random fan, a mate down the pub, or ma dogs grannie`s budgie.
Hardly going to mention a name the guy your talking about is his manager.... just watch the space and see
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Fri 3 Jan 15:18
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 15:10
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 14:51
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 12:31
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
A "got told" as you put it from someone who plays for kelty.. so just wait and see what happens......
It makes all the difference when you reveal who or what the reliable source is. All too often, it`s a random fan, a mate down the pub, or ma dogs grannie`s budgie.
Hardly going to mention a name the guy your talking about is his manager.... just watch the space and see
To be fair Parrot, I have placed some things on the forum that have come from very reliable sources but I would never ever consider exposing the individual who gave the information. It just isn’t cricket. 😜
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Fri 3 Jan 20:04
Kelty Hearts socials are stating Tidser is not available for their game tomorrow
Post Edited (Fri 03 Jan 20:04)
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Fri 3 Jan 20:33
What`s to stop him quitting and walking away?
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Fri 3 Jan 20:40
Quote:
rikaka, Fri 3 Jan 20:33
What`s to stop him quitting and walking away?
I`d guess he would be forbidden from working for another club for a period of time unless released from his contract.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 3 Jan 21:30
All indicates that`s it`s done and Tidser will be in the stand at Firhill tomorrow with an official announcement either just before or just after the game. Reports that Kelty are looking at Charlie Mulgrew so the hold up was presumably Kelty making sure they had a replacement lined up. Seems a pretty standard length of time for things to happen in tbh, especially given the Christmas and New Year holidays.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Fri 3 Jan 21:44
It feels like our collective patience has been worn thin by events over the last few months. I`m hoping we`re finally on the brink of something good, something I think we`re due after the last few years. Imagine if we`ve found owners that can harness what we know we have in the background and a manager who can make EEP an enjoyable place to watch fitba?
Fingers crossed 🤞
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Fri 3 Jan 22:07
Quote:
da_no_1, Fri 3 Jan 21:44
It feels like our collective patience has been worn thin by events over the last few months. I`m hoping we`re finally on the brink of something good, something I think we`re due after the last few years. Imagine if we`ve found owners that can harness what we know we have in the background and a manager who can make EEP an enjoyable place to watch fitba?
Fingers crossed 🤞
Hit the nail on the head.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: tappies par
Date: Fri 3 Jan 22:45
Apparently Tidser was in high demand and that he is well thought off. I was a little surprised about who we were looking at but we’ve went down the road previous to McPake with experience and that hasn’t worked out well. If it is Tidser then let’s get behind him. See this season out hopefully stay in the league avoiding the playoffs. I feel as though Tidser will be more enthusiastic and ambitious than McPake was. I personally think that McPake hasn’t really been up for it since the start of the season when he wasn’t backed by the Germans with cash for new players. Im also hoping the new manager can get the best out of Wotherspoon. A few new faces in January hopefully a striker. Hopefully 2025 can be the start of something good for the pars. Im optimistic.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 3 Jan 22:59
Quote:
tappies par, Fri 3 Jan 22:45
Apparently Tidser was in high demand and that he is well thought off. I was a little surprised about who we were looking at but we’ve went down the road previous to McPake with experience and that hasn’t worked out well. If it is Tidser then let’s get behind him. See this season out hopefully stay in the league avoiding the playoffs. I feel as though Tidser will be more enthusiastic and ambitious than McPake was. I personally think that McPake hasn’t really been up for it since the start of the season when he wasn’t backed by the Germans with cash for new players. Im also hoping the new manager can get the best out of Wotherspoon. A few new faces in January hopefully a striker. Hopefully 2025 can be the start of something good for the pars. Im optimistic.
I agree it was time for management change ,maybe McPake was promised funds and withdrawn ,so he would feel demoralized ,but as said im not defending him 100%
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 07:40
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 15:10
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 14:51
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Fri 3 Jan 12:31
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 3 Jan 11:57
"I got told!"
That`s the indicator that someone is just about to slaver something unlikely to be true.
It really is painful reading this forum sometimes. Most of the time nowadays.
I think the board have their backs against the wall.
No money, a demoralised squad that gets the confidence kicked out of them every day with relentless abuse from "Fans".
5 managers in 5 years is a red flag to any potential applicant. They will all be looking for a contract with security, and we will likely not want to risk another long-term contract.
This can`t be easy.
A "got told" as you put it from someone who plays for kelty.. so just wait and see what happens......
It makes all the difference when you reveal who or what the reliable source is. All too often, it`s a random fan, a mate down the pub, or ma dogs grannie`s budgie.
Hardly going to mention a name the guy your talking about is his manager.... just watch the space and see
I didn`t expect you to. That is not what I meant. The ino you gave was enough to give your post credibility.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 08:10
Interesting that you say tidser was in high demand? By who? There’s not many other jobs going just now.
If he was I would have expected him to be strongly linked to raith given the folk that brought him to Kelty are now at starks.
Hopefully he’s at firhill assessing the current team but part of me would like him to be at another game identifying players to bring in asap.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 08:13
He would surely need to make his own assessment on the current crop of players we have first before scouting for new ones.
Be interesting to see if the game goes ahead, I know it’s early but almost slipped on me erse this morning when I nipped out.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 08:33
I`d prefer he checks out what he has, given he`s stuck with them.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sat 4 Jan 08:39
He was at Morton vs Thistle on Tuesday. Most likely looking at the opposition in Thistle hoping he`d be in place for today`s match
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 09:18
If Tidser was at Somerset today rather than Firhill I`m not convinced that would go down very well
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 09:48
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 09:18
If Tidser was at Somerset today rather than Firhill I`m not convinced that would go down very well
Maybe he was checking out a target signing. ;)
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 10:15
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 09:18
If Tidser was at Somerset today rather than Firhill I`m not convinced that would go down very well
Why does anyone think he will be at Somerset the day
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 10:17
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sat 4 Jan 10:15
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 09:18
If Tidser was at Somerset today rather than Firhill I`m not convinced that would go down very well
Why does anyone think he will be at Somerset the day
See the earlier post, I used Somerset as an example
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 10:30
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 10:17
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sat 4 Jan 10:15
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da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 09:18
If Tidser was at Somerset today rather than Firhill I`m not convinced that would go down very well
Why does anyone think he will be at Somerset the day
See the earlier post, I used Somerset as an example
Got ye now.. I wondered where that cone from haha
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 10:46
You can view replays of our previous games etc including today’s game. This isn’t a squad which is underperforming although many still seem to have faith these guys are good enough.
The biggest difference that can be made to this team is getting better players in asap.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 10:54
I am not convinced we are going to sign many players, unless somehow we manage to offload some of those we already have.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 11:05
Quote:
CrossPar, Sat 4 Jan 10:54
I am not convinced we are going to sign many players, unless somehow we manage to offload some of those we already have.
I don`t think we will be signing any players after having to pay off kelty. A think the pot will be quote empty again. Could possibley see a couple loan deals maybe...
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 4 Jan 11:07
I think we will.
When McPake was sacked they mentioned in the statement that they wanted to make the change going into January. So effectively giving a new manager a chance to bring their own players in.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 11:11
I would expect any manager coming in would give each player the opportunity to prove themselves. At this stage, I can`t see any significant changes until the end of the season. I would imagine it will be a case of working with the current squad to get the best from them. I haven`t seen a team this season that is any better than us. We got a bit of a football lesson from Falkirk last week but they blew themselves out after 60 minutes so it`s a little bit deceptive.
Hopefully the bits can lift themselves today and get a badly needed away win.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 11:55
I saw a post on Facebook by someone else, but I thought it was worth sharing on here, all Pars fans need to get behind the new management team.
"Friend of a friend who is a Kelty supporter..
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I asked a friend who is a Kelty hearts fan, re Tidser.
“When he took the job I expected that by this point Kelty would be bottom of League Two and heading back to the Lowland League. Not because I had concerns about him as a manager, but because I felt he was taking on an impossible task. Potter had left, as well Barrowman and the man who was the driving force behind the club Dean McKenzie. They all went to Raith, and at the time Kelty literally had a handful of players on the books. As far as I was concerned it was a crisis and I didn`t see a way forward. A couple of guys from the youth set up stepped in to fill the positions vacated by McKenzie and Barrowman, and Tidser the captain stepped up to manage the first team. The club was in deep water with inexperienced people at the helm. Within a very short period he built a squad on a shoestring that played the best football I`ve ever seen Kelty play and led them to their highest ever league finish. This season they are challenging for promotion to the Championship. He doesn`t have much experience and he hasn`t "won" anything, but if you understand the circumstances the man is a miracle worker. I`ve heard complaints that Dunfermline are too big a club but the reality is Kelty are only a couple of places below them. He also knows this level of football inside out from his playing days. He arrived with a bit of a marmite reputation as player but he`s always carried himself like a model pro and an absolute gent, and on the park you could tell that he understood the game extremely well. I`m sorry to see him go, he`ll be irreplaceable but I really hope he does well. I think he will. For me he`s the real deal and I wouldn`t be surprised if he`s managing in the top flight within three years. Hopefully it`s with Dunfermline, and hopefully Pars fans give him the chance he deserves. A good man.”
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 12:16
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 4 Jan 11:55
I saw a post on Facebook by someone else, but I thought it was worth sharing on here, all Pars fans need to get behind the new management team.
"Friend of a friend who is a Kelty supporter..
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I asked a friend who is a Kelty hearts fan, re Tidser.
“When he took the job I expected that by this point Kelty would be bottom of League Two and heading back to the Lowland League. Not because I had concerns about him as a manager, but because I felt he was taking on an impossible task. Potter had left, as well Barrowman and the man who was the driving force behind the club Dean McKenzie. They all went to Raith, and at the time Kelty literally had a handful of players on the books. As far as I was concerned it was a crisis and I didn`t see a way forward. A couple of guys from the youth set up stepped in to fill the positions vacated by McKenzie and Barrowman, and Tidser the captain stepped up to manage the first team. The club was in deep water with inexperienced people at the helm. Within a very short period he built a squad on a shoestring that played the best football I`ve ever seen Kelty play and led them to their highest ever league finish. This season they are challenging for promotion to the Championship. He doesn`t have much experience and he hasn`t "won" anything, but if you understand the circumstances the man is a miracle worker. I`ve heard complaints that Dunfermline are too big a club but the reality is Kelty are only a couple of places below them. He also knows this level of football inside out from his playing days. He arrived with a bit of a marmite reputation as player but he`s always carried himself like a model pro and an absolute gent, and on the park you could tell that he understood the game extremely well. I`m sorry to see him go, he`ll be irreplaceable but I really hope he does well. I think he will. For me he`s the real deal and I wouldn`t be surprised if he`s managing in the top flight within three years. Hopefully it`s with Dunfermline, and hopefully Pars fans give him the chance he deserves. A good man.”
That a very good and strong statement to make.. there`s alot of managers out there that currently are out of work. Seems like we`ve went out of our way to get tidser and spending a bit to do so. Someone clearly sees loads of potential here and there`s a lot of supporters and kelty players sad to see him leave.. let`s hope it all works out great for everyone involved and we`re up there pushing for promotion next season
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 12:28
Some of the pessimistic fans on this forum just refuse to give him a chance simply because they know nothing about him. His age etc etc but as was said above, the guy has worked a near miracle with Kelty Hearts after all their big guys left them and kept them in contention this season as well.
No mean feat.
I would consider finishing anywhere above 2nd bottom as progress for him given what’s went on before with McPake.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 4 Jan 12:30
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 4 Jan 12:28
Some of the pessimistic fans on this forum just refuse to give him a chance simply because they know nothing about him. His age etc etc but as was said above, the guy has worked a near miracle with Kelty Hearts after all their big guys left them and kept them in contention this season as well.
No mean feat.
I would consider finishing anywhere above 2nd bottom as progress for him given what’s went on before with McPake.
Exactly. This and some attacking football is all I want.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 12:49
I`m far more inclined to listen to a Kelty supporter than the negative wee bedwetters on here.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 12:56
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 4 Jan 12:28
Some of the pessimistic fans on this forum just refuse to give him a chance simply because they know nothing about him. His age etc etc but as was said above, the guy has worked a near miracle with Kelty Hearts after all their big guys left them and kept them in contention this season as well.
No mean feat.
I would consider finishing anywhere above 2nd bottom as progress for him given what’s went on before with McPake.
Totally agree. There`s a strong chance he could have kelty into the play offs this season and been in the Championship next season anyway amd I`d imagine on alot smaller budget than what we have.. ad gladly take 8th place at the end of the season right now. If he keeps us up its done for me tbh
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 4 Jan 13:15
I loved Tidser as a player and he looks to have done a good job at Kelty.
However, I would like to think I could voice the opinion that appointing an inexperienced manager, who has never presided over a full time team, when we`re 5 points off safety, over halfway through a season, is massively risky and not the appointment I would have made - and do so without getting called something unsavoury.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 13:24
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sat 4 Jan 13:15
I loved Tidser as a player and he looks to have done a good job at Kelty.
However, I would like to think I could voice the opinion that appointing an inexperienced manager, who has never presided over a full time team, when we`re 5 points off safety, over halfway through a season, is massively risky and not the appointment I would have made - and do so without getting called something unsavoury.
Every manager is a risk regardless of their experience though.
Some of our failures were previously respected managers and I include Yogi in that.
Jim Jeffries, Davie Hay and even Grant had pedigree before coming to us.
On the other foot. Some of our most successful managers had no or little managerial experience before.
Jock Stein , Jim Leishman, Bert Paton
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 4 Jan 13:43
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 4 Jan 13:24
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sat 4 Jan 13:15
I loved Tidser as a player and he looks to have done a good job at Kelty.
However, I would like to think I could voice the opinion that appointing an inexperienced manager, who has never presided over a full time team, when we`re 5 points off safety, over halfway through a season, is massively risky and not the appointment I would have made - and do so without getting called something unsavoury.
Every manager is a risk regardless of their experience though.
Some of our failures were previously respected managers and I include Yogi in that.
Jim Jeffries, Davie Hay and even Grant had pedigree before coming to us.
On the other foot. Some of our most successful managers had no or little managerial experience before.
Jock Stein , Jim Leishman, Bert Paton
Yogi wasn`t a "respected manager" by the time he rocked up here. He was a joke figure and the appointment still absolutely baffles me.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 13:54
I’ve seen a few comments on here about managing a full time team versus a part time team. A genuine question. Is there a difference? I wouldn’t have thought so, personally, but wondered if anyone could share an experience or have a theory?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 13:57
Thanks for sharing that assessment from a Kelty fan, Red Star.
As I’ve already said, I’m keeping an open mind. The inexperience doesn’t bother me. He’s played the game all of his days.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:20
Harsh on Jefferies - had us playing well in the Championship until the financial issues - and did well in League 1 also, until the bizarre selection in the playoff final against Cowden.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:57
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sat 4 Jan 14:20
Harsh on Jefferies - had us playing well in the Championship until the financial issues - and did well in League 1 also, until the bizarre selection in the playoff final against Cowden.
Yeah I maybe should have put him in the ‘did alright’ category and he did have my respect alone for working months on no wages.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:36
was he at the game
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:40
Yes
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:43
Quote:
k76, Sat 4 Jan 19:40
Yes
cheers
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:45
Maybe Tidser had watched Partick midweek in anticipation of his taking over and had supplied the info?
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:39
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:41
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 20:53)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:42
Quote:
AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 20:39
Absolutely gutted if Tidser gets it . McPake was rotten but at least had got Dundee promoted to the Prem. It actually made sense . This decision is absolutely brainless . The guy is 34 , done absolutely nothing in the game as a player or manager. I honestly cannot get my head around this one. Would happily have JM in until the end of the season and take it from there. If he gets the job I’ll get behind him and I do wish him the best of course but just seems like utter madness.
By JM do you mean the one that got sacked from Arbroath as they were bottom of the league , they are now top
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:47
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Sat 4 Jan 20:42
Quote:
AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 20:39
Absolutely gutted if Tidser gets it . McPake was rotten but at least had got Dundee promoted to the Prem. It actually made sense . This decision is absolutely brainless . The guy is 34 , done absolutely nothing in the game as a player or manager. I honestly cannot get my head around this one. Would happily have JM in until the end of the season and take it from there. If he gets the job I’ll get behind him and I do wish him the best of course but just seems like utter madness.
By JM do you mean the one that got sacked from Arbroath as they were bottom of the league , they are now top
Pretty sure he means the JM currently in charge of the team
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:59
Quote:
AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 20:39
Absolutely gutted if Tidser gets it . McPake was rotten but at least had got Dundee promoted to the Prem. It actually made sense . This decision is absolutely brainless . The guy is 34 , done absolutely nothing in the game as a player or manager. I honestly cannot get my head around this one. Would happily have JM in until the end of the season and take it from there. If he gets the job I’ll get behind him and I do wish him the best of course but just seems like utter madness.
What a state to get in about someone yoh know nothing about.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 21:32
Well I’m quite excited by Tidser, comes with really positive reviews from Kelty who he’s doing well with.
Bags of experience as a player in this league and will have learnt from the managers he’s had in this division so he’ll know what it involves.
He’s young, ambitious, driven and not on the usual merry go round. Fed up with this age nonsense, just typical UK behaviour where we look down on people because of age and other factors.
He’s not going to get the ‘experience’ fans are after without him being given the opportunity - pretty much like any other job.
It may not work out, but we’ve went through a few of them recently ‘experienced’ who haven’t been that grand so I’m glad we’re looking in this direction.
People say he isn’t what we need in a relegation battle, he could be exactly what we need, ironically possibly due to his age, he can fully participate in the training, actually set the example and integrate with the players on a different level - they’ve proven as recently as this afternoon that they’ll fight for a manager they get on with and believe in - it wasn’t just the tactics today.
With big John proving his worth over the last couple of weeks and Tidsers current assistant, think we should be looking forward with more optimism than trepidation.
All this rotten decision nonsense is rotten in itself and comes from dummies being spat that we haven’t secured Ian Murray who may never have been a target.
I respect everyone’s views on here but honestly the amount that are just completely ill-informed and so negative I really struggle to get my head around.
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 21:36)
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 21:37
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 22:51
Quote:
AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 21:37
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sat 4 Jan 20:59
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AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 20:39
Absolutely gutted if Tidser gets it . McPake was rotten but at least had got Dundee promoted to the Prem. It actually made sense . This decision is absolutely brainless . The guy is 34 , done absolutely nothing in the game as a player or manager. I honestly cannot get my head around this one. Would happily have JM in until the end of the season and take it from there. If he gets the job I’ll get behind him and I do wish him the best of course but just seems like utter madness.
What a state to get in about someone yoh know nothing about.
Can you offer a counter argument as to why he’s is a good appointment without bringing my dead parents in to it , calling it tragic patter or whatever.
Btw check out Berry point as to how to make a proper counter argument without just resorting to basically telling someone to F**k Off simply because you don’t agree with them.
Aw shucks, the victim card, melt.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 23:28
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 5 Jan 03:59
Quote:
AndyBird, Sat 4 Jan 23:28
Aw shucks, the victim card, melt.
Shucks ??
Victim card ??
Melt??
The kind of words rarely uttered by anyone other than a seven foot steroid munching wall puncher.
That’s me out … I’m clearly out my depth and I’ll retire with my jaw still attached while I have the chance.
Probably best.
You led in with "lower league muck" which you only backtracked on when it was universally derided, you thought you were being edgy and smart, alas, it wasn`t, it was just plain crass.
Good luck out there and bon voyage.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 5 Jan 05:28
Quote:
Berry, Sat 4 Jan 21:32
Well I’m quite excited by Tidser, comes with really positive reviews from Kelty who he’s doing well with.
Bags of experience as a player in this league and will have learnt from the managers he’s had in this division so he’ll know what it involves.
He’s young, ambitious, driven and not on the usual merry go round. Fed up with this age nonsense, just typical UK behaviour where we look down on people because of age and other factors.
He’s not going to get the ‘experience’ fans are after without him being given the opportunity - pretty much like any other job.
It may not work out, but we’ve went through a few of them recently ‘experienced’ who haven’t been that grand so I’m glad we’re looking in this direction.
People say he isn’t what we need in a relegation battle, he could be exactly what we need, ironically possibly due to his age, he can fully participate in the training, actually set the example and integrate with the players on a different level - they’ve proven as recently as this afternoon that they’ll fight for a manager they get on with and believe in - it wasn’t just the tactics today.
With big John proving his worth over the last couple of weeks and Tidsers current assistant, think we should be looking forward with more optimism than trepidation.
All this rotten decision nonsense is rotten in itself and comes from dummies being spat that we haven’t secured Ian Murray who may never have been a target.
I respect everyone’s views on here but honestly the amount that are just completely ill-informed and so negative I really struggle to get my head around.
Top post, Berry.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 5 Jan 05:41
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 5 Jan 05:28
Quote:
Berry, Sat 4 Jan 21:32
Well I’m quite excited by Tidser, comes with really positive reviews from Kelty who he’s doing well with.
Bags of experience as a player in this league and will have learnt from the managers he’s had in this division so he’ll know what it involves.
He’s young, ambitious, driven and not on the usual merry go round. Fed up with this age nonsense, just typical UK behaviour where we look down on people because of age and other factors.
He’s not going to get the ‘experience’ fans are after without him being given the opportunity - pretty much like any other job.
It may not work out, but we’ve went through a few of them recently ‘experienced’ who haven’t been that grand so I’m glad we’re looking in this direction.
People say he isn’t what we need in a relegation battle, he could be exactly what we need, ironically possibly due to his age, he can fully participate in the training, actually set the example and integrate with the players on a different level - they’ve proven as recently as this afternoon that they’ll fight for a manager they get on with and believe in - it wasn’t just the tactics today.
With big John proving his worth over the last couple of weeks and Tidsers current assistant, think we should be looking forward with more optimism than trepidation.
All this rotten decision nonsense is rotten in itself and comes from dummies being spat that we haven’t secured Ian Murray who may never have been a target.
I respect everyone’s views on here but honestly the amount that are just completely ill-informed and so negative I really struggle to get my head around.
Top post, Berry.
There ar 4 managers in English top league in their 30s
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 05:54
He`s not a stranger to a relegation battle as a player/manager at kelty last season when he was suddenly dropped in at the deep end when the rest buggered off to raith so bear in mind he had zero experience at that time as a manager and he managed that.
Look at what the guy has turned round there and where they are now.. 5 places of us in league positions to be realistic with a part time team also.
Like I said before when he comes in and if he keeps us up this season through league position or plays offs. Imo it`s a great job done as 2 weeks ago i only seen play offs being our best option with mcpake still in charge .
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 5 Jan 07:56
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sun 5 Jan 05:54
He`s not a stranger to a relegation battle as a player/manager at kelty last season when he was suddenly dropped in at the deep end when the rest buggered off to raith so bear in mind he had zero experience at that time as a manager and he managed that.
Look at what the guy has turned round there and where they are now.. 5 places of us in league positions to be realistic with a part time team also.
Like I said before when he comes in and if he keeps us up this season through league position or plays offs. Imo it`s a great job done as 2 weeks ago i only seen play offs being our best option with mcpake still in charge .
Agree and good post, it puts to bed the "hasn`t achieved anything in management" garbage, arguably keeping Kelty up amid such turmoil could be classed his first achievement.
And what Berry said.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 08:10
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 5 Jan 07:56
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sun 5 Jan 05:54
He`s not a stranger to a relegation battle as a player/manager at kelty last season when he was suddenly dropped in at the deep end when the rest buggered off to raith so bear in mind he had zero experience at that time as a manager and he managed that.
Look at what the guy has turned round there and where they are now.. 5 places of us in league positions to be realistic with a part time team also.
Like I said before when he comes in and if he keeps us up this season through league position or plays offs. Imo it`s a great job done as 2 weeks ago i only seen play offs being our best option with mcpake still in charge .
Agree and good post, it puts to bed the "hasn`t achieved anything in management" garbage, arguably keeping Kelty up amid such turmoil could be classed his first achievement.
And what Berry said.
Ad say that`s a huge achievement Dandy.. personally ad say that was. Bigger achievement that if he keeps us up as atleast he has a full squad with us where`s as he lost players at kelty and had to bring in the youngsters to make a team up
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Sun 5 Jan 08:10
When Tidser was touted, the view was that we were getting him on the cheap, but that was negated by the fact we had to pay compensation. This gave me hope that the hierarchy had identified someone though the football grapevine that was on the up and would be a good fit, rather than the usual suspects. Reading the albeit limited information from the Kelty support, I am somewhat encouraged we are getting someone who has the potential to do well. Is it a risk, hell yes, but let`s welcome him and give him a chance, time to bed in and then judge him. Onwards and upwards hopefully.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 5 Jan 08:48
Quote:
grelin, Sun 5 Jan 08:10
When Tidser was touted, the view was that we were getting him on the cheap, but that was negated by the fact we had to pay compensation. This gave me hope that the hierarchy had identified someone though the football grapevine that was on the up and would be a good fit, rather than the usual suspects. Reading the albeit limited information from the Kelty support, I am somewhat encouraged we are getting someone who has the potential to do well. Is it a risk, hell yes, but let`s welcome him and give him a chance, time to bed in and then judge him. Onwards and upwards hopefully.
It`s definitely not the cheap option. Kelty has set a compensation fee after we agreed terms with Tidser which has changed the funds available for him in the window. This is what has been holding up the deal.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 09:02
Good post from Berry. Sums it up nicely.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 09:03
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 5 Jan 08:48
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grelin, Sun 5 Jan 08:10
When Tidser was touted, the view was that we were getting him on the cheap, but that was negated by the fact we had to pay compensation. This gave me hope that the hierarchy had identified someone though the football grapevine that was on the up and would be a good fit, rather than the usual suspects. Reading the albeit limited information from the Kelty support, I am somewhat encouraged we are getting someone who has the potential to do well. Is it a risk, hell yes, but let`s welcome him and give him a chance, time to bed in and then judge him. Onwards and upwards hopefully.
It`s definitely not the cheap option. Kelty has set a compensation fee after we agreed terms with Tidser which has changed the funds available for him in the window. This is what has been holding up the deal.
Hindsight possibley should have done the deal with kelty 1st making out we didny care if we got him or not haha.. as kelty will no doubt have raised the money the want for compensation
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 5 Jan 09:11
I think it`s important not to have any preconceived ideas about the incoming manager. You would hope the club has done its due diligence. Any manager who comes in you would expect will work with people like JMcL, who has many years in football. Experience is important, but so are fresh ideas that sometimes come with a lack of experience. Everyone has something to offer, and it`s teamwork that will get the results, not individuals. The key for me yesterday is that the potential is in there in the team demonstrated by the result. I haven`t seen a team in this league that is any better than us.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 10:36
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 10:42
Give it a rest now, please?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 10:49
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 10:36
Have yet to see anyone highlight what makes this chap the number one candidate. Perhaps one last GFUY from the outgoing owners??
Let`s see a list of your top 5 candidates you would have picked
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:00
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:03
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 11:00
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 10:42
Give it a rest now, please?
Not a problem because we know what the answer is don’t we ? Blind faith. Pure and simple.
There are large sections of our support that live in a complete fantasy world and will happily go along with anything they are told. Never question anything .
You have made your point, to which you are entitled to, on a number of occasions on a few threads.
All I am asking is how often you have to repeat that ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:12
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Sun 5 Jan 10:49
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 10:36
Have yet to see anyone highlight what makes this chap the number one candidate. Perhaps one last GFUY from the outgoing owners??
Let`s see a list of your top 5 candidates you would have picked
Hìs 5 might be:
Peter Swan
Helmet Duckadam
Troy Parrot
Bernd Storck
And himself......cos he`s a tit.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:13
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 10:36
Have yet to see anyone highlight what makes this chap the number one candidate. Perhaps one last GFUY from the outgoing owners??
Let`s hear your suggestions then?
And your funding plans?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:13
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:24
He wouldn`t be my choice either. I`ve outlined why on one occasion, which I think is sufficient.
Quoting a winning percentage at Kelty, a club which has lost it`s benefactor - and suggesting that it`s the current owners who have made the appointment to p!$$ us all off - makes you look a bit daft to be honest.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:25
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 5 Jan 11:12
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Lesliepartoo, Sun 5 Jan 10:49
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 10:36
Have yet to see anyone highlight what makes this chap the number one candidate. Perhaps one last GFUY from the outgoing owners??
Let`s see a list of your top 5 candidates you would have picked
Hìs 5 might be:
Peter Swan
Helmet Duckadam
Troy Parrot
Bernd Storck
And himself......cos he`s a tit.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 quality
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:28
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 11:13
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 11:03
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AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 11:00
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 10:42
Give it a rest now, please?
Not a problem because we know what the answer is don’t we ? Blind faith. Pure and simple.
There are large sections of our support that live in a complete fantasy world and will happily go along with anything they are told. Never question anything .
You have made your point, to which you are entitled to, on a number of occasions on a few threads.
All I am asking is how often you have to repeat that ?
I’ll repeat it as often as I want and until someone can explain what makes Micheal Tidser the number one candidate to manage Dunfermline Athletic.
A win percentage of about 37% according to wiki. That has to set alarm bells off surely . Howling record.
I guess we`re not getting the list of your candidates
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:30
Because we can all believe Uber drivers right?
The one I got to the game yesterday (who said he is also a scout for Celtic!) was telling me the incoming owners are involved in, and fully behind the Tidser appointment.
He also predicted we`d win 2-1 yesterday so maybe take everything he said with a pinch of salt!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sun 5 Jan 12:56
It was mentioned that our new owners may use analytics to sign players ,why not the manager, someone young ,with a good grasp of the modern game and players .
Good luck to Mr Tidser , we are left in a precarious position and will do really well to get us to 8th , I`d settle to win the relegation playoffs .
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 18:33
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 5 Jan 19:13
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AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 18:33
As already stated I will not respond to posters who have previously resorted to mindless abuse.
better if you leave this forum with your negative insight ,I dont beleive you are a true pars fan with the crap your putting out ,my opinion only
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 5 Jan 19:37
"Have yet to see anyone highlight what makes this chap the number one candidate."
Doing well in the league below, taking over under a limited budget and consolidating Kelty in his first season then making a play off run in his second. Proven track record of playing young players. Good style of play, looking to attack teams. Has shown he can improve players who have came in on loan then went back to their parent club more rounded and better players. Talks well in interviews and sets high standards at training and in matches. Experienced player at this level and also had a spell in England. Seems to have decent contacts in the game. Falkirk fans hate him (as do you, seemingly). Seems like an ambitious young coach who has some self belief. Isn`t one of the usual "merry-go-round" managers like Hughes who are seen as yesterday`s men. Wants to come to us but hadnt spat the dummy in the press and has shown a good level of professionalism throughout the whole process. While every manager is a risk, it`s no more risky than some of the other names quoted.
"Perhaps one last GFUY from the outgoing owners??"
You`ve clearly got some kind of gripe with Tidser and/or the current board, so why not just come out with why rather than pretending that there are no redeeming qualities the new manager has? You could at least supply a suitable list of alternatives, as you`ve been asked for on several occasions. If you can`t do either of those things then I can only conclude you are a troll. Seem fair?
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Sun 5 Jan 20:01
If individuals are disillusioned by Tidser`s appointment to our club, they certainly possess every right to feel that way. I found out tidser was taking the position on the day of the Falkirk match, and I was quite gutted if I’m being honest.
Nonetheless, after taking a few days to reflect and watching a podcast featuring him on YouTube, as well listening to TN10Y with Michael Wood, I gradually began to perceive the broader perspective. In the evolving landscape of sports, the trend is decidedly leaning towards young managers.
Every supporter aspires to the same outcome: success! I am certain that each manager shares this ambition as well. Therefore, I propose that we get behind him once in the door. Whether the responsibilities will prove too much for him remains to be seen. However, I genuinely wish for his success; I long for our return to the Premier League! At 36, the best periods of my life were spent supporting the club during the Calderwood era. My singular hope during my lifetime is to witness us secure a domestic trophy. The dream I hope to become a reality
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 5 Jan 20:33
As a country we just despise people who want to succeed in life and find ways to knock people down at any opportunity and then play the told you so card when it eventually happens, which in football is pretty much inevitable these days. It really is a honking attitude to have.
Tidser has done nothing wrong and in his limited time as a manager has done really well - he’s one that’s on the up who I’d rather have than try and pick up another manager who has been on the downward trajectory and trying to save their career.
I really truly hope he’s appointed next week and proves the majority of you lot wrong. The poor blokes had a short managerial career but has had a pretty impressive one given the upheaval at Kelty lately.
Other than Ian Murray who folk seem to be drooling about who are the other possible managerial candidates you really think would be a fit for us.
I seen Billy Davies mentioned somewhere for example, he’s been out of management for over 10 years, how much has football changed over that period?
We’d seriously rather try and bring someone like him out the cupboard rather than a young upcoming manager?
You can be disappointed, entitled to your opinion but bloody hell, some have got him fired before he’s appointed.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 5 Jan 20:52
Who are `the majority` or the ones who have him fired before he starts?
Some of us wouldn`t have him as their first choice, but I think we all - bar one person who is embarrassing themselves - will get right behind him when he`s confirmed.
I think it`s a big risk given we`re halfway through the season and staring at the relegation play-offs - although I am slightly more optimistic now that he`s coming in to a team with a bit of momentum rather than the sinking ship pre-Christmas.
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Topic Originator: p4r5f4n
Date: Sun 5 Jan 21:47
1960, 1964, 1980
Nuff said!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 5 Jan 21:56
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 18:33
As already stated I will not respond to posters who have previously resorted to mindless abuse.
Troll league muck ^^.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 5 Jan 22:05
As a country we just despise people who want to succeed in life and find ways to knock people down at any opportunity and then play the told you so card when it eventually happens, which in football is pretty much inevitable these days. It really is a honking attitude to have.
``Tidser has done nothing wrong and in his limited time as a manager has done really well - he’s one that’s on the up who I’d rather have than try and pick up another manager who has been on the downward trajectory and trying to save their career.
I really truly hope he’s appointed next week and proves the majority of you lot wrong. The poor blokes had a short managerial career but has had a pretty impressive one given the upheaval at Kelty lately.
Other than Ian Murray who folk seem to be drooling about who are the other possible managerial candidates you really think would be a fit for us.
I seen Billy Davies mentioned somewhere for example, he’s been out of management for over 10 years, how much has football changed over that period?
We’d seriously rather try and bring someone like him out the cupboard rather than a young upcoming manager?
You can be disappointed, entitled to your opinion but bloody hell, some have got him fired before he’s appointed.``
|Exactly where I am.
I think he believes in the type of football our players want to play. John McLaughlin has them on the front foot and they look a different side playing like that.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 5 Jan 22:12
There is a hell of a lot of conjecture going on. This is in part due to the p*** poor communication from the club. However, I accept the club can`t comment on how an ex-manager was or was not treated.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 22:36
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 22:47
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 23:01
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 5 Jan 23:05
I`m genuinely interested in who you`d prefer as our new manager
Pretty simple question and really strange if you can't or won't answer.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sun 05 Jan 23:06)
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sun 5 Jan 23:23
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 5 Jan 23:37
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AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 23:23
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da_no_1, Sun 5 Jan 23:05
I`m genuinely interested in who you`d prefer as our new manager
Pretty simple question and really strange if you can`t or won`t answer.
I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him.
Jack Ross??
Fair choices.
Personally I don`t want the Neil Lennon sh1tshow anywhere my fitba club, no matter his actual managerial capability
Neil McCann - sorry not for me. Failed at Dundee and not been trusted by anyone else since.
Jack Ross has a position at Newcastle. Not sure if we`d be able to persuade him North? Good shout tho.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 5 Jan 23:51
Don`t see why a young manager with nearly two years in management behind him, leading a team punching above their weight with a tiny budget isn`t good enough.
He likes to play attacking football by all accounts. Something we`ve been starved of in recent years. He`s well respected by his clubs fans and other fans in that league he`s operating in. I`d rather him than an experienced Yogi type.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 6 Jan 06:39
Great posts from Berry and Kelty further up.
Let`s all bury any doubts we may have and give Michael Tidser a chance to show what he can do. Some folk appear to have ignored the fact that we almost certainly couldn`t afford some of the alternatives they propose and/or they might not be interested in the job.
What does John McLaughlan`s managerial CV look like? And yet, on the basis of two games, some posters are suggesting we give him the job rather than Tidser. Even though he reportedly doesn`t want it. Seriously? 🤔
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 6 Jan 07:45
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 6 Jan 06:39
What does John McLaughlan`s managerial CV look like? And yet, on the basis of two games, some posters are suggesting we give him the job rather than Tidser. Even though he reportedly doesn`t want it. Seriously? 🤔
Nowt as queer as folk, as the saying goes.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Mon 6 Jan 09:00
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 23:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 5 Jan 23:05
I`m genuinely interested in who you`d prefer as our new manager
Pretty simple question and really strange if you can`t or won`t answer.
I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him.
Jack Ross??
Hahahaha, who is paying Lennon`s or Ross wages to manage us?
I too would rather we got a big time manager but we`re Dunfermline, 9th in the championship.
Dream on. Tidser is probably up there with the best we can go for.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 6 Jan 09:22
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Mon 6 Jan 09:00
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 23:23
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da_no_1, Sun 5 Jan 23:05
I`m genuinely interested in who you`d prefer as our new manager
Pretty simple question and really strange if you can`t or won`t answer.
I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him.
Jack Ross??
Hahahaha, who is paying Lennon`s or Ross wages to manage us?
I too would rather we got a big time manager but we`re Dunfermline, 9th in the championship.
Dream on. Tidser is probably up there with the best we can go for.
Did naebody tell ye we are the mighty Pars. We were then bogs dolloks in the 60s
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 6 Jan 09:54
"I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him."
picking up on tidsers 37% win rate at Kelty then coming out with lennon (22% win rate at bolton/38% at Omonia and 0% win rate in his last role) is a bit of a wild suggestion. Similarly with Neil Mccann 33% and 37% win rate in his 2 roles and not managed for 3 years.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 6 Jan 11:01
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 23:23
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 5 Jan 23:05
I`m genuinely interested in who you`d prefer as our new manager
Pretty simple question and really strange if you can`t or won`t answer.
I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him.
Jack Ross??
Their win rates through the roof aye?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 6 Jan 11:20
Win rates are meaningless without some context - and even then, it depends on whether you`re picking up points in the games you are not winning.
Kieran McKenna had a winning percentage of 61% in league matches over the last two seasons. This season, he`s sitting at 15%. Based on the raw data, it looks like he`s completely lost his touch.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 6 Jan 11:25
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 6 Jan 11:20
Win rates are meaningless without some context - and even then, it depends on whether you`re picking up points in the games you are not winning.
Kieran McKenna had a winning percentage of 61% in league matches over the last two seasons. This season, he`s sitting at 15%. Based on the raw data, it looks like he`s completely lost his touch.
That`s what was being touted as going against Tidser, so that`s what is being discussed.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 6 Jan 11:52
Yeah, I know. I am involving myself in the discussion...
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:10
Quote:
AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 11:13
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 11:03
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AndyBird, Sun 5 Jan 11:00
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 10:42
Give it a rest now, please?
Not a problem because we know what the answer is don’t we ? Blind faith. Pure and simple.
There are large sections of our support that live in a complete fantasy world and will happily go along with anything they are told. Never question anything .
You have made your point, to which you are entitled to, on a number of occasions on a few threads.
All I am asking is how often you have to repeat that ?
I’ll repeat it as often as I want and until someone can explain what makes Micheal Tidser the number one candidate to manage Dunfermline Athletic.
A win percentage of about 37% according to wiki. That has to set alarm bells off surely . Howling record.
Maybe we should go for Rhys McCabe. I`ve just checked on "wiki" there and up until the end of last season he had a stonking 59% win rate. I am not too sure as to how well he is doing this season after losing key players etc? Maybe you could enlighten me about that one. Statistics are key after all.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:12
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DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 6 Jan 11:52
Yeah, I know. I am involving myself in the discussion...
There`s plenty of context for Tidser`s win rate, he took over a club in turmoil, money men gone and a depleted playing squad, he kept them in the league, they`re challenging and allegedly play attacking football.
I just don`t get the negativity after the dirge and half hearted garbage under McPake.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:17
Yes, I have made that exact point already about Tidser`s record at Kelty - at 11:24 yesterday on this thread.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:38
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 6 Jan 12:17
Yes, I have made that exact point already about Tidser`s record at Kelty - at 11:24 yesterday on this thread.
I`m agreeing with you.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:49
Having gained a bit of momentum under John McLaughlan and the players taking on his ideas, is there a danger we might lose that if a new manager comes in and possibly changes things again? I suppose that`s always a risk when a caretaker manager is appointed to cover the gap between managers but there`s been such an improvement under JM it seems a bigger risk now somehow. I`m not suggesting we stick with JM because, reading between the lines, I don`t think he`d be interested and the Tidser appointment seems to be more or less confirmed but I hope there would be a bit of consultation between the two when MT arrives.
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Topic Originator: Mr P
Date: Mon 6 Jan 14:06
I am sure that when the new management team come in they may well use John more. as he seems to know what the players are capable of.
Can`t see Tidser, ignoring what has happened in the last two games, John experience will help him Im sure.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 6 Jan 15:20
I’d like to think Tidser has been in discussions with McLauglan and we will carry on playing similar when Tidser comes in.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 6 Jan 15:45
I doubt Tidser has had any involvement to date?
If and when he is installed, I’m sure he will have a debrief session with John, take on board his thoughts, but ultimately, he will be his own man with his own ideas.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 6 Jan 16:19
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 6 Jan 15:45
I doubt Tidser has had any involvement to date?
If and when he is installed, I’m sure he will have a debrief session with John, take on board his thoughts, but ultimately, he will be his own man with his own ideas.
This.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 6 Jan 17:01
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 6 Jan 15:45
I doubt Tidser has had any involvement to date?
If and when he is installed, I’m sure he will have a debrief session with John, take on board his thoughts, but ultimately, he will be his own man with his own ideas.
Totally agree raymie.. tidser is his own man and will do things his own way
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 6 Jan 17:16
That’s what I mean, perhaps the way we are being set up and style of play is being fed to McLauglan from Tidser.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 6 Jan 17:29
If that were the case I don`t think JM would have had the sleepless nights he said he suffered. I also think he said he watched PT`s last two games to study their style of play and decide on his game plan. He would have access to much more info on them than Tidser would.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 6 Jan 18:09
Tidser hasn`t signed yet so why would he have anything to do with the team? That was McLaughlans team with his philosophy of tidser is named as new manager of Dunfermline he may choose to play differently although I can`t say I`ve seen much of Kelty to comment on what his style will be.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 18:21
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 6 Jan 18:21
I would be extremely surprised if he had anything to do with anything Dunfermline just yet - from both parties perspectives.
he’s not in employment of the club, would not be allowed to see confidential information about players fitness etc. and he wouldn’t want to do it from his perspective anyway because if we’d lost the two games, that could question his appointment or would impact any negotiations
Let’s just enjoy the wins, give John a large Pat on the back, and look forward to what’s coming next now our players may have renewed belief that with the right set up, their efforts can yield results!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 6 Jan 18:54
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 18:21
Some pretty disrespectful comments regarding John. The idea that the new manager has had any involvement in our win at the weekend is absurd.
I think John has done brilliantly well job for the club. Tidser getting credit before a ball has been kicked.
John has done brilliantly in a very short period of time leading the players, and although I wouldn`t mind him continuing, I`m happy with the Tidser appointment.
I think it`s important to keep in mind that we don`t know what positive (or negative) impact there might have been simply by McPake/Mackay not being there.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 19:12
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Mon 6 Jan 19:22
Admin - is it possible to include a ‘block’ function on the forum. Therefore we can block those we don’t wish to hear the views of, I think it would make the forum a much healthier place.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 19:29
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 6 Jan 20:03
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:12
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Playup_Pompey, Mon 6 Jan 09:54
"I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him."
picking up on tidsers 37% win rate at Kelty then coming out with lennon (22% win rate at bolton/38% at Omonia and 0% win rate in his last role) is a bit of a wild suggestion. Similarly with Neil Mccann 33% and 37% win rate in his 2 roles and not managed for 3 years.
A win rate of 37% in League One is absolutely horrific . Neil Lennon is factually a better manager than Tidser . Let’s not even go there .
Lennon and McCann have both had proper football careers and would also bring a bit of exposure to the club.
Tidser is a step up from bringing a guy in from Sunday league football. He has no profile whatsoever .
Lennon had money to spend at both celtic and hibs. Not so sure about the other teams he`s been at.
Regards mccann ad hardly say he`s a proven manager as such as he`s done nothing as a manager.
rooney was a world class player and been punted from every managers job he`s had.
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 20:09
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 6 Jan 20:37
Once the new owners assume control, Dunfermline will emerge as the most affluent club in the Championship, surpassing even some of the Premier League teams. Financial constraints will no longer pose a challenge moving forward.
Financial resources have already been allocated for the January transfer window. Once the SFA grants the necessary approvals, you can expect new arrivals to join the squad.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 6 Jan 20:48
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Mon 6 Jan 20:37
Once the new owners assume control, Dunfermline will emerge as the most affluent club in the Championship, surpassing even some of the Premier League teams. Financial constraints will no longer pose a challenge moving forward.
Financial resources have already been allocated for the January transfer window. Once the SFA grants the necessary approvals, you can expect new arrivals to join the squad.
Believe it when I see it, what’s in it for anyone wanting to own a Championship club that they have no affinity towards?
Just feels like another group wanting a hobby and something new and shiny to play with.
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC88
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:03
Quote:
Berry, Mon 6 Jan 20:48
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Mon 6 Jan 20:37
Once the new owners assume control, Dunfermline will emerge as the most affluent club in the Championship, surpassing even some of the Premier League teams. Financial constraints will no longer pose a challenge moving forward.
Financial resources have already been allocated for the January transfer window. Once the SFA grants the necessary approvals, you can expect new arrivals to join the squad.
Believe it when I see it, what’s in it for anyone wanting to own a Championship club that they have no affinity towards?
Just feels like another group wanting a hobby and something new and shiny to play with.
Only time will reveal the truth. Will the new proprietors commit to long-term? We can only speculate, and the odds seem unfavorable. Nevertheless, should good times lie ahead we should enjoy it.
They are assuming control of our club to leverage their sports analytics enterprise. Essentially, AI will dictate player selections, formations, and more. Several teams across Europe, such as Liverpool, Brentford, and Brighton, have already adopted this approach, with Brighton, in my estimation, excelling in identifying players for their specific needs. I am uncertain whether they utilise it for tactical strategies.
Today, an article appeared in the Courier Sports, discussing the forthcoming resources the club will gain post-takeover.
Post Edited (Mon 06 Jan 21:06)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:13
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:12
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Mon 6 Jan 09:54
"I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him."
picking up on tidsers 37% win rate at Kelty then coming out with lennon (22% win rate at bolton/38% at Omonia and 0% win rate in his last role) is a bit of a wild suggestion. Similarly with Neil Mccann 33% and 37% win rate in his 2 roles and not managed for 3 years.
A win rate of 37% in League One is absolutely horrific . Neil Lennon is factually a better manager than Tidser . Let’s not even go there .
Lennon and McCann have both had proper football careers and would also bring a bit of exposure to the club.
Tidser is a step up from bringing a guy in from Sunday league football. He has no profile whatsoever .
He has literally taken a decimated side consigned to relegation before a ball was kicked and put together a team sitting in 3rd position and playing football their fans are enjoying. Just have some knowledge before you post stuff like that, it’s just poor.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:24
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:28
Quote:
RossDAFC88, Mon 6 Jan 20:37
Once the new owners assume control, Dunfermline will emerge as the most affluent club in the Championship, surpassing even some of the Premier League teams. Financial constraints will no longer pose a challenge moving forward.
Financial resources have already been allocated for the January transfer window. Once the SFA grants the necessary approvals, you can expect new arrivals to join the squad.
Meanwhile, back in the real world………
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:29
Have to feel for Kelty and for Tidser on this one. Tidser won’t want this and will just want to get going, Kelty have basically had their manager unsettled to the point that they’ve basically put him on gardening leave…it’s all a wee bit of a mess and has probably been leaked too early for everyone.
Hopefully for everyone’s sake the new owners get the green light tomorrow.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:42
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 21:24
Quote:
AlterPar, Mon 6 Jan 21:13
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AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:12
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Playup_Pompey, Mon 6 Jan 09:54
"I’d want Neil Lennon. Someone that’s actually a proven football manager .
Neil McCann available?
Could do worse than him."
picking up on tidsers 37% win rate at Kelty then coming out with lennon (22% win rate at bolton/38% at Omonia and 0% win rate in his last role) is a bit of a wild suggestion. Similarly with Neil Mccann 33% and 37% win rate in his 2 roles and not managed for 3 years.
A win rate of 37% in League One is absolutely horrific . Neil Lennon is factually a better manager than Tidser . Let’s not even go there .
Lennon and McCann have both had proper football careers and would also bring a bit of exposure to the club.
Tidser is a step up from bringing a guy in from Sunday league football. He has no profile whatsoever .
He has literally taken a decimated side consigned to relegation before a ball was kicked and put together a team sitting in 3rd position and playing football their fans are enjoying. Just have some knowledge before you post stuff like that, it’s just poor.
How is that impressive ? It’s good . It’s no great .
Deary me. You are quackers.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 21:48
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Mon 6 Jan 22:00
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:29
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 6 Jan 19:22
Admin - is it possible to include a ‘block’ function on the forum. Therefore we can block those we don’t wish to hear the views of, I think it would make the forum a much healthier place.
I’m an adult and I can’t handle different views.
I know what I’ll sign up to a football forum.
Mate all your doing is arguing with folk and trolling, its a bit cringe considering you said you`ve been watching the pars for 30 years if im not mistaken, weird way to act at ur fine old age bud
COYP
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Mon 6 Jan 22:30
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 6 Jan 23:47
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 22:30
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shellypar, Mon 6 Jan 22:00
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AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:29
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 6 Jan 19:22
Admin - is it possible to include a ‘block’ function on the forum. Therefore we can block those we don’t wish to hear the views of, I think it would make the forum a much healthier place.
I’m an adult and I can’t handle different views.
I know what I’ll sign up to a football forum.
Mate all your doing is arguing with folk and trolling, its a bit cringe considering you said you`ve been watching the pars for 30 years if im not mistaken, weird way to act at ur fine old age bud
Well is it not utter cringe that someone your age is on a football forum with middle aged old men talking about the pars rather than getting their hole?
Finding it hard to believe dotnets new birdbrain has been around for 30 years, never mind watching the Pars.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 6 Jan 23:57
Just don’t feed the troll. Job done.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Tue 7 Jan 00:19
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 7 Jan 06:59
Anyway, back on point, surely this week we`ll see some movement regarding the new owners and management situation?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 7 Jan 08:32
I think the meeting with the SFA is today.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 7 Jan 08:46
Quote:
AndyBird, Tue 7 Jan 00:19
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PARrot, Mon 6 Jan 23:47
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 22:30
Quote:
shellypar, Mon 6 Jan 22:00
Quote:
AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:29
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 6 Jan 19:22
Admin - is it possible to include a ‘block’ function on the forum. Therefore we can block those we don’t wish to hear the views of, I think it would make the forum a much healthier place.
I’m an adult and I can’t handle different views.
I know what I’ll sign up to a football forum.
Mate all your doing is arguing with folk and trolling, its a bit cringe considering you said you`ve been watching the pars for 30 years if im not mistaken, weird way to act at ur fine old age bud
Well is it not utter cringe that someone your age is on a football forum with middle aged old men talking about the pars rather than getting their hole?
Finding it hard to believe dotnets new birdbrain has been around for 30 years, never mind watching the Pars.
Finding hard to believe you are not a virgin. The vicar has spoken . Flannel
I didn`t use to be but I am now.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 7 Jan 08:56
"Finding hard to believe you are not a virgin. The vicar has spoken . Flannel"
when you see the results of breeding i wish i had a time machine to recommend it to your parents.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 7 Jan 08:59
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 7 Jan 08:56
"Finding hard to believe you are not a virgin. The vicar has spoken . Flannel"
when you see the results of breeding i wish i had a time machine to recommend it to your parents.
First rule of troll club : don`t feed the troll.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:16
Firstly, hats off to John McLaughlan for what he has achieved in the two games he has been in charge. Same players but what a transformation.
It`s incredible, that some people think Tidser hasn`t yet achieved anything in football. Apart from being a reasonable player, he has managed to get Kelty up into the promotion play-off places with a small club that had just lost their main financial backer and management team and that were favourites to go back down the leagues. The money spent on players and their salaries strongly correlates with footballing success. I suspect Tidser has managed to achieve a lot when you consider the budget he probably had to work with at Kelty. I am also encouraged by the reported positive comments from the Kelty fans.
The AndyBirds of this world would no doubt have been scathing about the appointment of Jock Stein, Bert Paton and Jim Leishman because at the time they weren`t an older experienced name. Imagine the meltdown (on a dotnet equivalent had it existed) way back then if we had appointed a young Sir Alex from East Stirlingshire or after he had been fired by St Mirren!
Rather than getting another older retreaded manager - possibly with older ideas - I like that we have been ambitious enough to be prepared to pay compensation to get an up-and-coming younger manager.
Hopefully, the new majority owners will be able to invest more money into the first team than the Germans did, and we can bring in a few players in this window to improve the squad and get us out of the relegation zone.
Over the medium term let`s hope a Moneyball approach also succeeds and helps us punch above our financial weight. The performances and the seven goals scored in the last two matches against the league leaders and a playoff spot team clearly showed where much of the problem lay (which we all knew) so hopefully we are already well on the way on the journey to safety.
It will depend on the level of finances the new majority owners can bring, but I hope they will also be able to continue to fund JMcL and progress the youth development. JMcL can really assist the new manager when he comes in as he has a good knowledge of the players and what some of the problems were.
Who knows - maybe if the new majority owners and manager do manage to turn things around we might after all achieve in part what the Germans said they wanted to do, and in a few years become an established Premier League team with a good youth development set up and training base.
Like Lessliepartoo, RedStarPar, Berry and Raymie I too am quite encouraged by Tidser`s appointment. It is a risk - Yes but for me shows a bit of ambition. Who knows it might just pan out really well with improved results and a team that is more entertaining to watch. Let`s welcome the new majority owners and manager and give them a chance.
Post Edited (Tue 07 Jan 11:20)
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:18
I have never been in the we demand and update brigade, the powers to be should be allowed to do their stuff and inform us when they see fit. However I do feel that an update in the current circumstancestage should be considered. Obviously there is a case for keeping cards close to the chest when seeking a new manager, but it does not appear to be a secret that we are after Tidser and Kelty are apparently playing silly bu**ers. If that is the case say so and if they are being ridiculous in their demands, is there a case of pulling out meantime? We appear to have a capable caretaker manager who could possibly take the job on to the end of the season and we could then get Tidser free if the information is correct about his contract ending then. That would leave Kelty`s play offs hopes wavering as they would have a manager who doesn`t want to be there, possibly the playing staff too as well as the supporters.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:24
Would be ideal if things went through before the weekend, despite our position there’s as much positivity as there’s been in a while and I’m sure if business is tied up off the field it would see a sizeable attendance against Ayr.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:27
Quote:
AndyBird, Tue 7 Jan 00:19
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PARrot, Mon 6 Jan 23:47
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AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 22:30
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shellypar, Mon 6 Jan 22:00
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AndyBird, Mon 6 Jan 19:29
Quote:
KnebworthPar, Mon 6 Jan 19:22
Admin - is it possible to include a ‘block’ function on the forum. Therefore we can block those we don’t wish to hear the views of, I think it would make the forum a much healthier place.
I’m an adult and I can’t handle different views.
I know what I’ll sign up to a football forum.
Mate all your doing is arguing with folk and trolling, its a bit cringe considering you said you`ve been watching the pars for 30 years if im not mistaken, weird way to act at ur fine old age bud
Well is it not utter cringe that someone your age is on a football forum with middle aged old men talking about the pars rather than getting their hole?
Finding it hard to believe dotnets new birdbrain has been around for 30 years, never mind watching the Pars.
Finding hard to believe you are not a virgin. The vicar has spoken . Flannel
For someone crying yesterday about name calling you`ve done a full 180 on your views now.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:31
The board are not going to provide an ongoing commentary on confidential negotiations until all is settled.
The rest is just conjecture mixed with rumours, some with substance, depending on the source, others not.
Provides entertaining discussion nevertheless.
Post Edited (Tue 07 Jan 09:32)
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 7 Jan 09:35
I have no knowledge of what the situation is. but just maybe it is the new majority owners that will be paying the compensation to Kelty, and they will do that once approval has been given for their takeover by the authorities. I suspect we may well hear something pretty soon.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:00
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 6 Jan 17:16
That’s what I mean, perhaps the way we are being set up and style of play is being fed to McLauglan from Tidser.
Unlikely. He’s not in post and rightly shouldn’t have any say.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:02
Quote:
veteraneastender, Tue 7 Jan 09:31
The board are not going to provide an ongoing commentary on confidential negotiations until all is settled.
The rest is just conjecture mixed with rumours, some with substance, depending on the source, others not.
Provides entertaining discussion nevertheless.
Exactly. People will argue they’re entitled to their opinion, even when they know heehaw.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:04
Quote:
RhinoPars, Tue 7 Jan 09:16
Firstly, hats off to John McLaughlan for what he has achieved in the two games he has been in charge. Same players but what a transformation.
It`s incredible, that some people think Tidser hasn`t yet achieved anything in football. Apart from being a reasonable player, he has managed to get Kelty up into the promotion play-off places with a small club that had just lost their main financial backer and management team and that were favourites to go back down the leagues. The money spent on players and their salaries strongly correlates with footballing success. I suspect Tidser has managed to achieve a lot when you consider the budget he probably had to work with at Kelty. I am also encouraged by the reported positive comments from the Kelty fans.
The AndyBirds of this world would no doubt have been scathing about the appointment of Jock Stein, Bert Paton and Jim Leishman because at the time they weren`t an older experienced name. Imagine the meltdown (on a dotnet equivalent had it existed) way back then if we had appointed a young Sir Alex from East Stirlingshire or after he had been fired by St Mirren!
Rather than getting another older retreaded manager - possibly with older ideas - I like that we have been ambitious enough to be prepared to pay compensation to get an up-and-coming younger manager.
Hopefully, the new majority owners will be able to invest more money into the first team than the Germans did, and we can bring in a few players in this window to improve the squad and get us out of the relegation zone.
Over the medium term let`s hope a Moneyball approach also succeeds and helps us punch above our financial weight. The performances and the seven goals scored in the last two matches against the league leaders and a playoff spot team clearly showed where much of the problem lay (which we all knew) so hopefully we are already well on the way on the journey to safety.
It will depend on the level of finances the new majority owners can bring, but I hope they will also be able to continue to fund JMcL and progress the youth development. JMcL can really assist the new manager when he comes in as he has a good knowledge of the players and what some of the problems were.
Who knows - maybe if the new majority owners and manager do manage to turn things around we might after all achieve in part what the Germans said they wanted to do, and in a few years we become an established Premier League team with a good youth development set up and training base.
Like Lessliepartoo, RedStarPar, Berry and Raymie I too am quite encouraged by Tidser`s appointment. It is a risk - Yes but for me shows a bit of ambition. Who knows it might just pan out really well with improved results and a team that is more entertaining to watch. Let`s welcome the new majority owners and manager and give them a chance.
Great post, Rhinopars.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:12
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:17
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:25
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Tue 7 Jan 11:56
Admin when will you give us an ignore feature????
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Tue 7 Jan 12:04
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Topic Originator: DA_NO1
Date: Tue 7 Jan 12:30
Deary me....
"a picture paints a thousand words"
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Tue 7 Jan 12:36
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 7 Jan 11:04
Quote:
RhinoPars, Tue 7 Jan 09:16
Firstly, hats off to John McLaughlan for what he has achieved in the two games he has been in charge. Same players but what a transformation.
It`s incredible, that some people think Tidser hasn`t yet achieved anything in football. Apart from being a reasonable player, he has managed to get Kelty up into the promotion play-off places with a small club that had just lost their main financial backer and management team and that were favourites to go back down the leagues. The money spent on players and their salaries strongly correlates with footballing success. I suspect Tidser has managed to achieve a lot when you consider the budget he probably had to work with at Kelty. I am also encouraged by the reported positive comments from the Kelty fans.
The AndyBirds of this world would no doubt have been scathing about the appointment of Jock Stein, Bert Paton and Jim Leishman because at the time they weren`t an older experienced name. Imagine the meltdown (on a dotnet equivalent had it existed) way back then if we had appointed a young Sir Alex from East Stirlingshire or after he had been fired by St Mirren!
Rather than getting another older retreaded manager - possibly with older ideas - I like that we have been ambitious enough to be prepared to pay compensation to get an up-and-coming younger manager.
Hopefully, the new majority owners will be able to invest more money into the first team than the Germans did, and we can bring in a few players in this window to improve the squad and get us out of the relegation zone.
Over the medium term let`s hope a Moneyball approach also succeeds and helps us punch above our financial weight. The performances and the seven goals scored in the last two matches against the league leaders and a playoff spot team clearly showed where much of the problem lay (which we all knew) so hopefully we are already well on the way on the journey to safety.
It will depend on the level of finances the new majority owners can bring, but I hope they will also be able to continue to fund JMcL and progress the youth development. JMcL can really assist the new manager when he comes in as he has a good knowledge of the players and what some of the problems were.
Who knows - maybe if the new majority owners and manager do manage to turn things around we might after all achieve in part what the Germans said they wanted to do, and in a few years we become an established Premier League team with a good youth development set up and training base.
Like Lessliepartoo, RedStarPar, Berry and Raymie I too am quite encouraged by Tidser`s appointment. It is a risk - Yes but for me shows a bit of ambition. Who knows it might just pan out really well with improved results and a team that is more entertaining to watch. Let`s welcome the new majority owners and manager and give them a chance.
Great post, Rhinopars.
Totally.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 7 Jan 13:01
Lots of sense in Rhino Pars’ post.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 7 Jan 16:14
Agree with Rhino.
Glad andybird has been binned! Squabbling over nothing is a pain, now others can post.
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Tue 7 Jan 16:56
I concur what a great post by Rhinopars. How refreshing it is to read a well constructed, thoughtful and balanced perspective.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 7 Jan 19:33
And to think that admin deleted my perfectly rational thread on Mr Bird.
He`s a trouble making troll that this forum could do without.
I wonder what his new moniker will be? HappyEmu? ExuberantEagle?
It`ll be obvious whom he is if he does return so get him black carded immediately.
I think he`ll wait to see how Tidser does. If he does well he won`t return,but if he doesn`t...............
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 7 Jan 20:09
Will be a bit worrying if we are no further forward on either Tidser or the takeover by the weekend. Hopefully some news comes out tomorrow with Wednesday normally being a rest day for the first team…..
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Tue 7 Jan 20:20
Time to delete all replies on this Tidser post.
Nothing we can do until all is confirmed.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 7 Jan 20:25
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kozmasrightfoot, Tue 7 Jan 19:33
And to think that admin deleted my perfectly rational thread on Mr Bird.
He`s a trouble making troll that this forum could do without.
I wonder what his new moniker will be? HappyEmu? ExuberantEagle?
It`ll be obvious whom he is if he does return so get him black carded immediately.
I think he`ll wait to see how Tidser does. If he does well he won`t return,but if he doesn`t...............
He was obviously Neil Lennon 😉
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Topic Originator: Underpars
Date: Sat 11 Jan 16:36
That was an interesting podcast Graeme, he came across as well informed and well connected.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 11 Jan 18:37
At HT in Kelty/Stenny match the Kelty sporting director said he would expect there to be some movement early next week.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 11 Jan 18:49
Watched his interview also wee eck, sounds like all will be clearer or clarified early next week.
Hopefully Tidser will have time to bring in some players before the end of the transfer window.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 11 Jan 18:49
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 11 Jan 18:37
At HT in Kelty/Stenny match the Kelty sporting director said he would expect there to be some movement early next week.
Aye, Craig Reynolds, he started off as a young striker at The Pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 11 Jan 18:53
Quote:
red-star-par, Sat 11 Jan 18:49
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 11 Jan 18:37
At HT in Kelty/Stenny match the Kelty sporting director said he would expect there to be some movement early next week.
Aye, Craig Reynolds, he started off as a young striker at The Pars
Decent guy
c'mon the pars
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