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 Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:25

The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.

Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.

No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:32

To counter, the wee fuds throwing things give players pelters then get all petted lip when the player responds in kind.

Poor.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:34

The unacceptable names being thrown at him prior to taking the penalty didn’t help matters.

No place for us to take the higher moral ground on that.

Don’t think Easton did anything wrong.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:38

Quote:

veteraneastender, Sun 2 Feb 12:25

The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.

Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.

No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.


Disagree entirely. Players get absolute pelters all game, why should they not be allowed to celebrate a goal? As much as Easton is a fud, his celebration wasn`t over the top as some are making out.

Anyone in the crowd who can`t accept someone celebrating a goal in front of them without chucking something is the problem. Not the players.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: par_33  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:38

Always thought it was a yellow card offence for inciting fans, maybe I’m wrong.

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:45

You can get a yellow card for taking your shirt off while celebrating a goal but it`s OK to deliberately wind up the opposition fans apparently. Where`s the logic in that?

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:57

Just watched the Raith highlights (which are really good) and there’s two absolute twats in the NW section with black and white masks or paint on with the slitting the throat gesture.

Honestly what an absolute mess some people are.

Easton went over there for the banter.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 12:58

He coaches young kids. Think about that.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:04

What did he do wrong though? He ran over after being called some vile names and just stuck his fingers in his ears?
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:06

I said on another post I remember when we were signing about Scott McDonald taking it up the erse . When he scored and celebrated in front of them it was all of a sudden unacceptable?

If you can`t go to a game without throwing stuff at players there are teams in Glasgow where you can go and act like that.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:10

He behaved like a classless clown.
You can`t be running direct to the oppositions fans and giving it the big man. That`s inciting trouble for me, the laddie undoubtedly can play but there`s aspects to his game that`s questionable at best.
I presume the coaching he does with Cardle isn`t voluntary, yet the same folk he`s gesturing to in the crowd are the same folk who`ll be paying fees to Cardle. Not a role-model for those kids in any way with his carry-on.

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Angus_W  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:17

Paint Dylan Easton blue and he’s a Smurf, how can you get annoyed at a Smurf?

We got the last laugh so who cares…….

“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:17

I seem remember when celebrating in front of opposition fans was a booking.

Players should be told not to imho by the officials, regardless of any goading.

Not justifying the behaviour of morons in our support or any other teams supporters.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:18

Pah, nonsense. Boy was getting pelters from that section prior to the penalty, getting called some rather unpleasant names which is classless.

He then scored a nicely taken penalty under that pressure and went over there to indicate that it was water off a ducks back, he wouldn’t let people like that affect him.

He stayed on the pitch, the fingers in ear thing was for seconds before he then celebrated with his team.

Fair play in my book, then you get the kids with the slit throat gestures and throwing the coins. Muppets.

Throughout the remainder of the game all the singing from Easton was fair enough, but he didn’t react once.

I’m not his biggest fan by any stretch but didn’t really see anything worth wetting our pants over yesterday.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:50

Definitely should be a bookable offence if it isn`t already. Doesn`t matter what the fans have done - that`s not really the referee`s concern. It`s inciting the crowd and could lead to safety concerns. Similar level to jumping into the home fans to celebrate - bookable offence because of risk to crowd safety.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 13:54

I am pretty sure a celebration like that in front of opposition fans in an Old firm match ( No away fans recently of course) or an Edinburgh derby would incur a booking.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 14:00

Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.

Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.

Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?

How many wrongs make a right?



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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: 1985Par  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 14:35

What is it with some fans. Dish out vile abuse then are aghast when the recepient of the vile abuse gives a bit back by running over and cupping his ears.
Don’t dish it out if you can’t take a bit back. What on earth were you greetin about?

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:01

Remember the OF game when Dallas was hit by the coin and gave Rangers the penalty, Albertz said later that he was told if scored to wheel back to his own half and not go anywhere near the Celtic fans.

Police match commander used to meet with refs before each game, not sure if they still do, and would no doubt mention stuff like this.

At the very least the linesman should have been ushering them back to their own half. Common sense at least, sure the linesman in the Falkirk game handled it a lot better when Morrison etc came across after their opening goal.

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:02

Fans stand calling the guy a peado before the penalty but get worked up about him sliding in front of that area, not off the park or even close to it, with his fingers in his ears…….then don’t mention anything about the morons launching coins at the guy 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:04

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GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00

Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.

Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.

Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?

How many wrongs make a right?


Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:07

"Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive. choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting.

A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for

-acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way"

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:17

Absolutely no excuse to throw things at a player and I can’t believe anyone can point fingers at Easton for this. Matty Todd done the exact same thing in the league cup last season and we thought it was brilliant. I don’t think he received anywhere near the abuse Easton did either…If you’re happy giving abuse to a player, expect to take it back when he scores. All he did was slide to the fans with his fingers in his ears and laugh at the Norrie for winning the penalty. People need to learn to take it back if they’re happy to give it. The celebration Scott McDonald gave a few years ago was an excellent reply to the fan songs and people should see the funny side rather than frothing at the mouth because the player had the audacity to get his own back.

It’s not going to go down to well when the club have to pay for increased policing, pay a hefty fine or shut down the stand. It’s a shame because the majority create an excellent atmosphere that will seriously help the players. I just wish they could stick to that.

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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:26

Bang on ^^^

On Matty Todd, there was even a pin badge made of it.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:51



Here`s Matty Todd doing pretty much the same thing at Stark`s and we don`t remember it as "inciting the crowd" or worthy of a booking, we remember it as one of the most iconic Pars images of the 21st century.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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 Re: Opposition players inciting crowd trouble
Topic Originator: fcda  
Date:   Sun 2 Feb 15:56

Separate the two things.

Should fans be acting like that? Clearly not.

The main point of the thread though: should the referee take action when a player deliberately incites crowd trouble? Yes.

I`m sure there`s nothing in the rule book that says a player`s actions can be overlooked if the fans were asking for it.
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