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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:25
The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.
Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.
No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:32
To counter, the wee fuds throwing things give players pelters then get all petted lip when the player responds in kind.
Poor.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:34
The unacceptable names being thrown at him prior to taking the penalty didn’t help matters.
No place for us to take the higher moral ground on that.
Don’t think Easton did anything wrong.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:38
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 2 Feb 12:25
The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.
Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.
No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.
Disagree entirely. Players get absolute pelters all game, why should they not be allowed to celebrate a goal? As much as Easton is a fud, his celebration wasn`t over the top as some are making out.
Anyone in the crowd who can`t accept someone celebrating a goal in front of them without chucking something is the problem. Not the players.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:38
Always thought it was a yellow card offence for inciting fans, maybe I’m wrong.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:45
You can get a yellow card for taking your shirt off while celebrating a goal but it`s OK to deliberately wind up the opposition fans apparently. Where`s the logic in that?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:57
Just watched the Raith highlights (which are really good) and there’s two absolute twats in the NW section with black and white masks or paint on with the slitting the throat gesture.
Honestly what an absolute mess some people are.
Easton went over there for the banter.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:58
He coaches young kids. Think about that.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:04
What did he do wrong though? He ran over after being called some vile names and just stuck his fingers in his ears?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:06
I said on another post I remember when we were signing about Scott McDonald taking it up the erse . When he scored and celebrated in front of them it was all of a sudden unacceptable?
If you can`t go to a game without throwing stuff at players there are teams in Glasgow where you can go and act like that.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:10
He behaved like a classless clown.
You can`t be running direct to the oppositions fans and giving it the big man. That`s inciting trouble for me, the laddie undoubtedly can play but there`s aspects to his game that`s questionable at best.
I presume the coaching he does with Cardle isn`t voluntary, yet the same folk he`s gesturing to in the crowd are the same folk who`ll be paying fees to Cardle. Not a role-model for those kids in any way with his carry-on.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:17
Paint Dylan Easton blue and he’s a Smurf, how can you get annoyed at a Smurf?
We got the last laugh so who cares…….
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:17
I seem remember when celebrating in front of opposition fans was a booking.
Players should be told not to imho by the officials, regardless of any goading.
Not justifying the behaviour of morons in our support or any other teams supporters.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:18
Pah, nonsense. Boy was getting pelters from that section prior to the penalty, getting called some rather unpleasant names which is classless.
He then scored a nicely taken penalty under that pressure and went over there to indicate that it was water off a ducks back, he wouldn’t let people like that affect him.
He stayed on the pitch, the fingers in ear thing was for seconds before he then celebrated with his team.
Fair play in my book, then you get the kids with the slit throat gestures and throwing the coins. Muppets.
Throughout the remainder of the game all the singing from Easton was fair enough, but he didn’t react once.
I’m not his biggest fan by any stretch but didn’t really see anything worth wetting our pants over yesterday.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:50
Definitely should be a bookable offence if it isn`t already. Doesn`t matter what the fans have done - that`s not really the referee`s concern. It`s inciting the crowd and could lead to safety concerns. Similar level to jumping into the home fans to celebrate - bookable offence because of risk to crowd safety.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:54
I am pretty sure a celebration like that in front of opposition fans in an Old firm match ( No away fans recently of course) or an Edinburgh derby would incur a booking.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 2 Feb 14:35
What is it with some fans. Dish out vile abuse then are aghast when the recepient of the vile abuse gives a bit back by running over and cupping his ears.
Don’t dish it out if you can’t take a bit back. What on earth were you greetin about?
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:01
Remember the OF game when Dallas was hit by the coin and gave Rangers the penalty, Albertz said later that he was told if scored to wheel back to his own half and not go anywhere near the Celtic fans.
Police match commander used to meet with refs before each game, not sure if they still do, and would no doubt mention stuff like this.
At the very least the linesman should have been ushering them back to their own half. Common sense at least, sure the linesman in the Falkirk game handled it a lot better when Morrison etc came across after their opening goal.
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Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 15:02)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:02
Fans stand calling the guy a peado before the penalty but get worked up about him sliding in front of that area, not off the park or even close to it, with his fingers in his ears…….then don’t mention anything about the morons launching coins at the guy 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:07
"Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive. choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting.
A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for
-acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:17
Absolutely no excuse to throw things at a player and I can’t believe anyone can point fingers at Easton for this. Matty Todd done the exact same thing in the league cup last season and we thought it was brilliant. I don’t think he received anywhere near the abuse Easton did either…If you’re happy giving abuse to a player, expect to take it back when he scores. All he did was slide to the fans with his fingers in his ears and laugh at the Norrie for winning the penalty. People need to learn to take it back if they’re happy to give it. The celebration Scott McDonald gave a few years ago was an excellent reply to the fan songs and people should see the funny side rather than frothing at the mouth because the player had the audacity to get his own back.
It’s not going to go down to well when the club have to pay for increased policing, pay a hefty fine or shut down the stand. It’s a shame because the majority create an excellent atmosphere that will seriously help the players. I just wish they could stick to that.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:26
Bang on ^^^
On Matty Todd, there was even a pin badge made of it.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:51
Here`s Matty Todd doing pretty much the same thing at Stark`s and we don`t remember it as "inciting the crowd" or worthy of a booking, we remember it as one of the most iconic Pars images of the 21st century.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:56
Separate the two things.
Should fans be acting like that? Clearly not.
The main point of the thread though: should the referee take action when a player deliberately incites crowd trouble? Yes.
I`m sure there`s nothing in the rule book that says a player`s actions can be overlooked if the fans were asking for it.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:20
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:02
Fans stand calling the guy a peado before the penalty but get worked up about him sliding in front of that area, not off the park or even close to it, with his fingers in his ears…….then don’t mention anything about the morons launching coins at the guy 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Totally agree mate.. nae need for the paedo bit.. I personally don`t think that passable to sing that about any player
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:44
"Separate the two things.
Should fans be acting like that? Clearly not.
The main point of the thread though: should the referee take action when a player deliberately incites crowd trouble? Yes.
I`m sure there`s nothing in the rule book that says a player`s actions can be overlooked if the fans were asking for it. "
It`s clear that some responders can`t separate the two issues - and try to justify the scenario that played out as OK because two wrongs make a right.
Vitriolic abuse directed at any opponent is unacceptable - but that does not excuse the player from deliberately indulging in antics which are liable to cause crowd bother.
Law 12 is clear on the matter - maybe the referee needs refresher training ?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:52
It`s obvious that some of the "fans" in that section of the NW couldn`t care less about the club and it`s reputation. They are irresponsible and their own ego and gratification is top of their agenda. Anarchy reigns with some. They know the rules about pyrotechnics and yet they smuggle them in. Their actions give them a profile with their fellows that they are probably missing in day to day life. They see English Premiership games where objects are thrown at players taking corners, with impunity so that gives them license to do likewise. On the plus side that section of the NW does add positively to the occasion and our own players play up to them when we score. But the cost of having them comes at a price that may become too much.
Messr. Easton, however does not have the excuse of juvenile delinquency to fall back on. He is supposed to be an adult. To allow himself to be provoked by infantile chanting shows a serious lack of the level of maturity and judgement you would expect from a seasoned professional.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:22
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
Run to the other end of the pitch to celebrate.. usually it`s called banter between players and opposite teams supporters.. they diny expect to have things thrown at them though
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:49
this has and will continue to happen in football players reacting to oposition fans ,I dont see any problwm with it ,where I do have a problem is people trying to justify its ok to throw missiles onto the park and blame it on the player celebration ,we have had pars players do similar in the past
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
As an adult, a parent and a football fan, I think he behaved just fine after being called a peado from the fans in that area. If you think its fine for fans to hurl that sort of abuse (and then missiles) at a pro footballer for sliding on his knees 20 yards away from them, then maybe after your many years of being a fan you should reevaluate.
Can’t believe theres actually grown adults that are lifelong football thinking he done something wrong 😂 and think its fine he got stuff launched at him.
By the way, its not his actions that will cost the club thousands upon thousands in fines and policing costs.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 18:18)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:24
Quote:
Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:52
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 17:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
As an adult, a parent and a football fan, I think he behaved just fine after being called a peado from the fans in that area. If you think its fine for fans to hurl that sort of abuse (and then missiles) at a pro footballer for sliding on his knees 20 yards away from them, then maybe after your many years of being a fan you should reevaluate.
Can’t believe theres actually grown adults that are lifelong football thinking he done something wrong 😂 and think its fine he got stuff launched at him.
By the way, its not his actions that will cost the club thousands upon thousands in fines and policing costs.
I don`t think our fans` behaviour is fine at all, Dave. If you go back and read my posts, you`ll find that I called it unacceptable and that two wrongs (or any number) don`t make a right. I just think that, as an adult, Easton should have behaved in a more dignified and responsible manner. Not suggesting that would have been easy but he inflamed an already volatile situation further.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:58
Quote:
RossF, Sun 2 Feb 15:17
Absolutely no excuse to throw things at a player and I can’t believe anyone can point fingers at Easton for this. Matty Todd done the exact same thing in the league cup last season and we thought it was brilliant. I don’t think he received anywhere near the abuse Easton did either…If you’re happy giving abuse to a player, expect to take it back when he scores. All he did was slide to the fans with his fingers in his ears and laugh at the Norrie for winning the penalty. People need to learn to take it back if they’re happy to give it. The celebration Scott McDonald gave a few years ago was an excellent reply to the fan songs and people should see the funny side rather than frothing at the mouth because the player had the audacity to get his own back.
It’s not going to go down to well when the club have to pay for increased policing, pay a hefty fine or shut down the stand. It’s a shame because the majority create an excellent atmosphere that will seriously help the players. I just wish they could stick to that.
No sensible Pars fan would condone what Todd did. It doesn`t matter which club any footballer plays for, he has a responsibility to not behave in a way that may incite crowd trouble. To excuse the poor behaviour of any player by saying "Player X did it, too", is flawed in the extreme.
Eta. I've already said on this thread that the behaviour of some fans in the NW is completely unacceptable and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. There's no place for it in our game.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 19:01)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 2 Feb 19:04
My first instinct on seeing Easton’s reaction in even getting the penalty was he’s going to wind up the NW section.
He made gestures towards the Norrie stand prior to even taking the penalty.
It was obvious having scored what he was going to do and he’s not the first to do so at EEP.
There were plenty of police and stewards there to tell him to move away but he was allowed to carry on.
Absolutely no excuse for the object(s) getting hurled from our section at all though.
No proper fan would wish to harm our club financially so these young fannies should take a good look at themselves.
I’ll say it again. Get a fine mesh net put in front of that section to stop objects reaching the pitch.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 2 Feb 19:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 18:24
Quote:
Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
What if they sang something else then? Would that be OK?
He`s a dick. He knew fine well what he was doing. He knew he would get a reaction. He got a reaction, one that surely cannot have been completely unexpected. I'm unsure he even got hit with anything, but given he dives and cheats all the time it would not surprise me one bit if he didn't.
In short, fk him. I wouldn't want my kids to be coached by someone like him. Rat.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 19:32)
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 2 Feb 19:52
“No sensible Pars fan would condone what Todd did. It doesn`t matter which club any footballer plays for, he has a responsibility to not behave in a way that may incite crowd trouble. To excuse the poor behaviour of any player by saying "Player X did it, too", is flawed in the extreme.
Eta. I`ve already said on this thread that the behaviour of some fans in the NW is completely unacceptable and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. There`s no place for it in our game.”
But that’s the thing, it wasn’t poor behaviour - it was him giving it back (and rightly so). Being called an paedo - of all things, would cause 99% of people to react, especially when they score a goal. The Raith fans didn’t provoke Todd anywhere near as much and he still decided to celebrate similarly to Easton. I cannot recall the Raith fans throwing missiles at him.. On top of that, our social media team had a field day with those pictures. By the way, I don’t think it’s a big deal that Todd done that. I thought it was hilarious! If you can’t take a player running to your stand and placing his fingers in his ears, you shouldn’t goto the football. In fact, you should probably attend anger management if that riles you up so much that you want to throw something at him. For the record I can’t stand Easton (and their keeper) on the pitch, but they’re probably decent guys off it. I’ve played football with a few guys who were absolute ars**oles on the pitch but the nicest guys you could meet off it.
Imagine the rage our fans would have with Chris Kane playing against us, with the fouls he wins and the times he throws himself to the ground for an easy foul. Luckily he’s on our side and we’d love Easton just as much for his antics if he was playing for us.
Just out of curiosity GG Riva, what would be your response if Easton decided to walk off the pitch along with the Raith team for being called paedo?
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Sun 2 Feb 19:53
I`m with GG. Two wrongs etc, and adult professional sportsmen should be responsible enough not to stir trouble unnecessarily. The ref should have dealt with him and the polis should deal with the juvenile delinquents trying to commit assault by chucking missiles. It`s a shame that a few do the daft stuff, as the majority are clearly right behind the team, and they do enhance the atmosphere.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:04
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Sun 2 Feb 19:04
I’ll say it again. Get a fine mesh net put in front of that section to stop objects reaching the pitch.
Thats the best suggestion I`ve heard yet. They did it as the precursor to the cage in the late 70s to stop bottles getting hurled between the opposing fans and it worked. The wee fandans will soon get bored.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:05
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 18:24
Quote:
Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
I must have missed that chant . I’m pretty sure no one called him a peado .
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:05
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da_no_1, Sun 2 Feb 19:30
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Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 18:24
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Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
What if they sang something else then? Would that be OK?
He`s a dick. He knew fine well what he was doing. He knew he would get a reaction. He got a reaction, one that surely cannot have been completely unexpected. I`m unsure he even got hit with anything, but given he dives and cheats all the time it would not surprise me one bit if he didn`t.
In short, fk him. I wouldn`t want my kids to be coached by someone like him. Rat.
What difference does it make if he was hit or not ?
If he was called a peado considering he coaches kids I think going and putting his fingers in his ears isn`t all that bad. The bigger problem for us is if we get a fine. If folk can`t go to a game of football and act like a normal human then maybe they shouldn`t be allowed out unsupervised in public.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:09
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Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 18:24
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Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
What was the chant calling him a peado ? Only read that on here .
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Topic Originator: sintv
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:20
There was a chant calling him a paedo. I had no problem with him celebrating in front of the stand . The NW was swearing and throwing insults the whole game egged on by guys and men with a megaphone. There was also a police presence in front of the stand so how they failed to spot the coin throwers, I don`t understand. I sit just along from the boys and it`s usually a good atmosphere, but I guessed yesterday there would be some kind of trouble.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:46
**** off with that pissh.
some fans need to get a grip of themselves. Can dish it out but cant take it.
I hate Easton, but im not a scumbad and wouldn`t thow anything at him if he celebrated right in front of me.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 20:46)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:49
What a precious lot we are. As if none of our players have done the exact same thing 🙄🙄
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:56
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RossF, Sun 2 Feb 19:52
Just out of curiosity GG Riva, what would be your response if Easton decided to walk off the pitch along with the Raith team for being called paedo?
I would back him 100%, Ross, even though I find his behaviour difficult to swallow. I`ve already said that the unacceptable behaviour of some of our young fans in the NW has no place in football.
Singing obscene chants and throwing objects at players is vile and no better than racist abuse. I remember applauding Kevin Prince Boateng for walking off when playing for Milan v Pro Patria. A section of the PP support are really neo Fascist thugs. As I recall, Boateng was threatened with disciplinary action by the Italian FA for booting the ball violently into the crowd where his abusers were massed. There was such an outcry from the more sensible commentators that no action was taken against the player.
Sadly, AFAIK, no action was taken against the morons who abused him, either.
Eta.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKo-KkJ59X94&ved=2ahUKEwjnnYvU8KWLAxWCa0EAHVPVJC8QwqsBegQIARAE&usg=AOvVaw0TxYZdgUlPhE1ABMRjMzML
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 21:02)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 2 Feb 20:57
I think people are over-reacting a bit here. Yes, it was a fud move, but he`s a footballer. As has been mentioned Todd has done the same in the past. Is it really that big a deal? Surely it makes us going on to win 3-1 all the more glorious?
For what it`s worth, he`s great with the kids and people calling him a paedo need to take a look in the mirror. I`m all for banter but that`s below the belt.
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:02
Stop blaming players for fans behaviour. A player celebrating in front of fans is as much banter as fans shouting at them for 90 minutes. Throwing items and uncalled for abuse is where the line gets crossed.
Of the banter had came up to the fans shouting and pointing then it’s different. But because you’ve had a few pints and smoked a vape it does not give you any excuse to throw an item at a human being. Do that in the street your arrested. Do it in a football stadium it’s ok cause your pals will hide you and think it’s funny. It’s not acceptable and anyone who excuses/condones it needs their head checked.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:21
I’m honestly astounded that people think Easton did anything wrong.
Anyone remember oor Sammy the Tammy with the tank?
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:23
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da_no_1, Sun 2 Feb 19:30
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Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 18:24
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Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
What if they sang something else then? Would that be OK?
He`s a dick. He knew fine well what he was doing. He knew he would get a reaction. He got a reaction, one that surely cannot have been completely unexpected. I`m unsure he even got hit with anything, but given he dives and cheats all the time it would not surprise me one bit if he didn`t.
In short, fk him. I wouldn`t want my kids to be coached by someone like him. Rat.
Yassssss that’s my take on it as well
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:26
Basing your opinion on someone you only see on a football pitch.
Stay classy.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:26
Ffs as acpars fan for 50+ years what he did is part and parcel of football .Are we going to go political correctness when a goal is scored!!!! Its part of the game ,we do it ,they do it ,and every club does it .Spend more time on the A holes who throw things onto the park
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 2 Feb 21:34
Live and let live .. If you cant take it .. Don`t give it .. simples
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sun 2 Feb 22:14
I have no issue with whatever fans chant and also have no issue with Easton`s reactions. However throwing things onto the pitch are out of order
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Sun 2 Feb 22:14
Edited cba
Post Edited (Mon 03 Feb 05:44)
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 2 Feb 22:23
This thread is embarrassing. Grown adults getting worked up cos a player slid on his knees with his fingers in his ears? And calls for the SFA to step in?
Madness.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 3 Feb 00:56
Large chunk of niaivity (or worse) on display here to think that Easton deliberately running to our juvenile section wouldn`t produce the reaction that it did. Thats not in any way condoning the reaction but given the mentality of some in that area, there`s not the slightest doubt it would happen. As was previously pointed out, two wrongs don`t make a right and Easton should know better. The good thing for us was that he probably lost some concentration on the matter in hand (winning the game) and that gave us the edge.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 3 Feb 06:05
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DBA, Sun 2 Feb 22:23
This thread is embarrassing. Grown adults getting worked up cos a player slid on his knees with his fingers in his ears? And calls for the SFA to step in?
Madness.
Nothing wrong with folk disagreeing and putting across their point of view, as long as it`s respectful and doesn`t descend into abuse, DBA. The whole point of a reasoned debate is to try and convince those with a different opinion that our own has more merit. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 3 Feb 09:11
Football fans are absolute precious little babies. Dish it out but cry when players wind them back up. Hope the missile throwing fud is ID`d and banned
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 09:19
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 09:11
Football fans are absolute precious little babies. Dish it out but cry when players wind them back up. Hope the missile throwing fud is ID`d and banned
I hope Dylan Easton apologises to DAFC for single handedly causing the incident in the first place and offers to pay our expected fine. It`s the decent thing to do.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 3 Feb 09:24
The number of times I`ve been shouting at Brian Graham throughout matches,then he`ll score and end up celebrating in front of our fans. I can`t remember ever having the urge to throw something at him, it should all be part of the fun of football.
You dislike certain players due to their affinity with a rival club, their ability etc and they get stick. Suck it up and have a chuckle when it`s dished back to you. Absolutely no excuses for ever throwing anything at a player or official.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 3 Feb 09:59
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da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 09:19
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 09:11
Football fans are absolute precious little babies. Dish it out but cry when players wind them back up. Hope the missile throwing fud is ID`d and banned
I hope Dylan Easton apologises to DAFC for single handedly causing the incident in the first place and offers to pay our expected fine. It`s the decent thing to do.
Good lord 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Im starting to think you are now on the wind up da
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 3 Feb 10:02
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Dave_1885, Mon 3 Feb 09:59
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da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 09:19
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 09:11
Football fans are absolute precious little babies. Dish it out but cry when players wind them back up. Hope the missile throwing fud is ID`d and banned
I hope Dylan Easton apologises to DAFC for single handedly causing the incident in the first place and offers to pay our expected fine. It`s the decent thing to do.
Good lord 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Im starting to think you are now on the wind up da
Has got to be on the wind up 😂😂
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 3 Feb 10:34
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da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 09:19
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 09:11
Football fans are absolute precious little babies. Dish it out but cry when players wind them back up. Hope the missile throwing fud is ID`d and banned
I hope Dylan Easton apologises to DAFC for single handedly causing the incident in the first place and offers to pay our expected fine. It`s the decent thing to do.
He didn`t cause a thing.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:12
It`s only certain players who are subjected to this sort of treatment. Easton seems to revel in the role of pantomime villain but he`s a bit naive if he doesn`t think there could be unpleasant reactions to his behaviour. He`s supposed to be the adult in the room.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:36
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wee eck, Mon 3 Feb 11:12
It`s only certain players who are subjected to this sort of treatment. Easton seems to revel in the role of pantomime villain but he`s a bit naive if he doesn`t think there could be unpleasant reactions to his behaviour. He`s supposed to be the adult in the room.
So what is acceptable abuse from fans, shouts and songs about the players sexuality, the players family, what disease he`s going to die from , threats to his person and family ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:44
None of that`s acceptable but he shouldn`t react. It`s a bit of a `chicken and egg` situation as to what started this. Was he the victim of abuse before his antics in the last game at Stark`s Park? Football fans tend to have long memories about this kind of stuff unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:49
It`s like being in school again with some posters. Someone is bullied, reacts back and is the blamed for reacting by the teacher.
Wee crybabies
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:49
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Mon 3 Feb 11:36
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 3 Feb 11:12
It`s only certain players who are subjected to this sort of treatment. Easton seems to revel in the role of pantomime villain but he`s a bit naive if he doesn`t think there could be unpleasant reactions to his behaviour. He`s supposed to be the adult in the room.
So what is acceptable abuse from fans, shouts and songs about the players sexuality, the players family, what disease he`s going to die from , threats to his person and family ?
There`s no such thing as acceptable abuse, Salton, and I don`t think anyone on this forum is claiming any differently. Wee eck can speak for himself, but I think he`s suggesting that Easton should not have lowered himself by reacting to it. Not suggesting that`s an easy thing to do but as adults we`re expected to control our emotions better than kids and show some restraint.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 11:51
Quote:
Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 11:49
It`s like being in school again with some posters. Someone is bullied, reacts back and is the blamed for reacting by the teacher.
Wee crybabies
It`s absolutely nothing like that but thanks anyway
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Mon 3 Feb 12:22
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GG Riva, Mon 3 Feb 11:49
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saltonsgonagetu, Mon 3 Feb 11:36
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wee eck, Mon 3 Feb 11:12
It`s only certain players who are subjected to this sort of treatment. Easton seems to revel in the role of pantomime villain but he`s a bit naive if he doesn`t think there could be unpleasant reactions to his behaviour. He`s supposed to be the adult in the room.
So what is acceptable abuse from fans, shouts and songs about the players sexuality, the players family, what disease he`s going to die from , threats to his person and family ?
There`s no such thing as acceptable abuse, Salton, and I don`t think anyone on this forum is claiming any differently. Wee eck can speak for himself, but I think he`s suggesting that Easton should not have lowered himself by reacting to it. Not suggesting that`s an easy thing to do but as adults we`re expected to control our emotions better than kids and show some restraint.
So how do we police the folk mouthing off abuse, irrespective of what happens on the pitch , we now agree abusive language is not acceptable at East End Park, I think Hearts had a phone number you could phone to report this type of event .
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 3 Feb 12:43
if he was booked what difference would it make, unless he is doing it every week etc then will be banned after it happens 5 times etc.
If he was booked on saturday it still doesnt excuse anyone throwing coins at him. Some people really do get themselves wound up into a state when they abuse someone for 90minutes yet start crying when they get something back that they don`t like. If it was the other way around and Kane scoring a pen at Starks for us to win and celebrating that way most pars fans would be sharing on social media etc and laughing at the Rovers.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 3 Feb 12:54
I doubt if many, or any of our juvenile section were that wound up, they probably hoped the situation would arrive when they could start throwing hard objects at the first numbskull who gave them the recognition. Step forward Dylan Easton. If they are happy to defy management by bringing flares and singing abuse, chucking a lighter or a coin would be no big deal. Looks like considerations of the club`s reputation are low on the agenda.
And if we are considering reporting abusive language there`s at least 100 auld geezers in the Norrie and main stand who might come into that category. Maybe the doctrine of original sin isn`t too far off the mark.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 3 Feb 13:30
further to previous post ive seen Tshirts/hoodies/pin bages made with the below image on it. Wonder where/when that happened?
Post Edited (Mon 03 Feb 13:37)
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 3 Feb 13:41
I Seriously for the life of me can`t see what Easton done wrong.. I can guarantee though if any of them passed Easton outside the ground not 1 of them would say to his face what they were all singing during the game though.
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 3 Feb 13:44
Imagine calling a young man a paedophile then clutching your pearls when he reacts.
Low level operating.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 3 Feb 13:46
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 3 Feb 13:44
Imagine calling a young man a paedophile then clutching your pearls when he reacts.
Low level operating.
Exactly
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 3 Feb 13:52
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 11:51
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 11:49
It`s like being in school again with some posters. Someone is bullied, reacts back and is the blamed for reacting by the teacher.
Wee crybabies
It`s absolutely nothing like that but thanks anyway
It is like that, I was contemplating the same scenario, if your kids at school and getting bullied, called all the names under the sun, even physical contact. If it was initiated by the other party, you give it back. You don’t run away and pretend it never happened.
Post Edited (Mon 03 Feb 13:52)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 14:04
Quote:
Berry, Mon 3 Feb 13:52
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da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 11:51
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Andrew283, Mon 3 Feb 11:49
It`s like being in school again with some posters. Someone is bullied, reacts back and is the blamed for reacting by the teacher.
Wee crybabies
It`s absolutely nothing like that but thanks anyway
It is like that, I was contemplating the same scenario, if your kids at school and getting bullied, called all the names under the sun, even physical contact. If it was initiated by the other party, you give it back. You don’t run away and pretend it never happened.
Again, nothing like that.
He`s 30, a grown man. He was trying to wind up SNW which is full of impressionable kids, a fact he openly admitted before the game. He should`ve known better.
FWIW his "performance" on Saturday showed why he`s still jobbing around the Championship. He`s clearly talented but spends most of the game being a total dick, trying to beat the same man 40 times and not passing to his teammates when he should.
Raith are welcome to him.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Mon 3 Feb 14:46
For me there is a much bigger problem here. If anyone else on the forum is old enough to remember, when you checked the results in the paper it used to have the score, the attendance and how many arrests were made. You would regularly see numbers anywhere from the tens to the hundreds. Stamping out alcohol, all seater stadia and various other shifts changed this by the 90`s. Its more of a societal problem now that the wee phudds no longer fear repercussions for their actions.
Last season when they beat us at East end I know for a fact (unfortunately due to a link by marriage) that a fairly well known vendor of fish and chips from kirkcaldy, who was at the game with a big group including his kids and grandkids came on to the park as they scored. Was he arrested and charged ? No. He was kicked out and sitting in the Elizabethen to continue drinking a mere 15 minutes later.
The club are made to pay for stewarding and policing but when it goes wrong it`s the clubs fault. The police are completely ineffective in these situations. Lift the offenders. Night in the cells. It will make them all think twice about it.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 3 Feb 14:47
Quote:
sonofpetrie, Mon 3 Feb 14:46
For me there is a much bigger problem here. If anyone else on the forum is old enough to remember, when you checked the results in the paper it used to have the score, the attendance and how many arrests were made. You would regularly see numbers anywhere from the tens to the hundreds. Stamping out alcohol, all seater stadia and various other shifts changed this by the 90`s. Its more of a societal problem now that the wee phudds no longer fear repercussions for their actions.
Last season when they beat us at East end I know for a fact (unfortunately due to a link by marriage) that a fairly well known vendor of fish and chips from kirkcaldy, who was at the game with a big group including his kids and grandkids came on to the park as they scored. Was he arrested and charged ? No. He was kicked out and sitting in the Elizabethen to continue drinking a mere 15 minutes later.
The club are made to pay for stewarding and policing but when it goes wrong it`s the clubs fault. The police are completely ineffective in these situations. Lift the offenders. Night in the cells. It will make them all think twice about it.
This. These idiots need consequences for their actions. Currently at worst they get a slap on the wrist
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 3 Feb 14:48
Was he winding up the same North West that were calling him a pedo?
The same people saying he brought it upon himself will be the same ones moaning in a month’s time that we haven’t strengthened the squad because of the fines we are about to receive.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 15:12
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 3 Feb 14:48
Was he winding up the same North West that were calling him a pedo?
The same people saying he brought it upon himself will be the same ones moaning in a month’s time that we haven’t strengthened the squad because of the fines we are about to receive.
Wrong again, Dave
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 3 Feb 16:04
Anyway, we won and the 3 points were priceless.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 3 Feb 16:29
I`m sure when we scored against Falkirk our players celebrated Infront of Falkirk fans. Happens at most games but some wee fuds in the NW clearly couldn`t take it. Clearly some on here still haven`t fully recovered by the looks of it. We won and folk are still bringing it up rather than discussing the good result and performance.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 16:54
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Mon 3 Feb 16:29
I`m sure when we scored against Falkirk our players celebrated Infront of Falkirk fans. Happens at most games but some wee fuds in the NW clearly couldn`t take it. Clearly some on here still haven`t fully recovered by the looks of it. We won and folk are still bringing it up rather than discussing the good result and performance.
Who`s going to tell him?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 3 Feb 17:10
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 3 Feb 16:54
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cammypar 1995, Mon 3 Feb 16:29
I`m sure when we scored against Falkirk our players celebrated Infront of Falkirk fans. Happens at most games but some wee fuds in the NW clearly couldn`t take it. Clearly some on here still haven`t fully recovered by the looks of it. We won and folk are still bringing it up rather than discussing the good result and performance.
Who`s going to tell him?
Ah are you recycling this patter again?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: broontroot
Date: Mon 3 Feb 17:22
Absolutely embarrassing that it`s come to this , if one if our players had did the same to the rovers fans we`d have loved it , adds atmosphere to the game , if you can`t take it don`t give it out
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 3 Feb 18:48
Quote:
broontroot, Mon 3 Feb 17:22
Absolutely embarrassing that it`s come to this , if one if our players had did the same to the rovers fans we`d have loved it , adds atmosphere to the game , if you can`t take it don`t give it out
Exactly my point
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Mon 3 Feb 18:53
It’s an emotional game, a derby and he has been getting pelters. I’d have done exactly the same. Big games that section becomes an embarrassment
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Mon 3 Feb 19:27
Still think it`s a booking regardless of what the fans have done to "encourage" it.
If he jumps the hoarding to celebrate with his own fans he`s booked for causing a security concern, but if he runs 30 yards to stand in front of the away fans making gestures, that`s not a booking because the fans were asking for it!? Irrelevant - it`s still a security concern.
Already quoted but from Law 12 about goal celebrations:
[I]A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for:
climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues[/I]
Seems unequivocal to me.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 3 Feb 19:51
Quote:
fcda, Mon 3 Feb 19:27
Still think it`s a booking regardless of what the fans have done to "encourage" it.
If he jumps the hoarding to celebrate with his own fans he`s booked for causing a security concern, but if he runs 30 yards to stand in front of the away fans making gestures, that`s not a booking because the fans were asking for it!? Irrelevant - it`s still a security concern.
Already quoted but from Law 12 about goal celebrations:
[I]A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for:
climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security issues[/I]
Seems unequivocal to me.
He never stepped off the pitch
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 3 Feb 21:47
Approaching spectators with his fingers in his ears poses a safety concern?
Eh?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 21:51
Quote:
Berry, Mon 3 Feb 21:47
Approaching spectators with his fingers in his ears poses a safety concern?
Eh?
If it ends up with getting "hit" by a missile, then yes it does.
Pretty simple really.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:32
Quote:
Berry, Mon 3 Feb 21:47
Approaching spectators with his fingers in his ears poses a safety concern?
Eh?
I think it`s in the same category as a player jumping into the crowd, yes. It causes fans to surge forward. Stewards (those responsible for security) to mobilise to try to prevent the situation escalating.
I don`t make the rules.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:38
Would that not apply if that said player went to take a throw in or corner kick in front of the fans without provoking them? The potential of a surge forward from fans would still potentially apply in this situation. The same applies if a linesman makes a controversial decision in front of the home fans.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:38
Easton can’t be penalised for staying on the pitch and celebrating because of a few erses in the NW who can’t handle any heat coming back and choose to throw stuff.
Going into the crowd I’d understand as that does pose a safety concern.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:44
The rule appears to be around goal celebrations, though I`m no expert.
Taking a throw in is a genuine part of the game.
There`s no caveat in the rules to say "no booking required if the crowd are acting like fannies."
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Mon 3 Feb 22:57
Apologies, I wasn’t questioning yourself, just the rules the SFA have made up. Fans will go just as mad at situations when the player is nearby. A player won’t even be able to smile or wink at the crowd without some idiots losing the plot.
Personally I don’t see it as a big deal if a player is willing to give it back. People should learn not to be offended by minor things, especially at a football game..
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 3 Feb 23:03
I must say that it was a good pick out by the "missile " thrower, do we have a future Luke Littler in our midst?🤔🎯💥
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 3 Feb 23:21
When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 3 Feb 23:58
GG
`Singing obscene chants and throwing objects at players is vile and no better than racist abuse`
Mon to **** eh? I fans should never throw stuff, peado chants or whatever are just a way of saying that a player is disliked. Racist abuse isn`t a way of saying you don`t like a player, it`s a way of saying you don`t like an entire race of people. The gap is massive.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 4 Feb 08:52
Quote:
RossF, Mon 3 Feb 22:57
Apologies, I wasn’t questioning yourself, just the rules the SFA have made up. Fans will go just as mad at situations when the player is nearby. A player won’t even be able to smile or wink at the crowd without some idiots losing the plot.
Personally I don’t see it as a big deal if a player is willing to give it back. People should learn not to be offended by minor things, especially at a football game..
The Laws of the Game are by FIFA, and apply universally, and not “made up” by the SFA.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 4 Feb 09:47
are folk still getting themselves in a state 72 hours on because a man put his fingers in his ears.
Id be speding more energy naming and shaming the wee fandan that thinks chucking coins at someone doing their job is acceptable. Or the wee fandans who chucked the security barrier over the perimiter wall when WE scored.
Problems in Section L. Close the section. Does problem go away? No its now in section G instead.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 4 Feb 10:42
Would it be any easier moving them back to the cage area?
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 4 Feb 11:00
“Made up” by FIFA then…
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 4 Feb 13:31
Surely we could install CCTV to identify the few that misbehave ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 4 Feb 13:58
Quote:
pars4life1, Mon 3 Feb 23:58
GG
`Singing obscene chants and throwing objects at players is vile and no better than racist abuse`
Mon to **** eh? I fans should never throw stuff, peado chants or whatever are just a way of saying that a player is disliked. Racist abuse isn`t a way of saying you don`t like a player, it`s a way of saying you don`t like an entire race of people. The gap is massive.
Let`s agree to disagree, pars4life. Personally, I`d be less upset if someone called me a "Tally bassa", since I am Italian, than I would be if I was called a paedophile or had my sexual orientation questioned, since I`m heterosexual and I don`t have an unhealthy interest in small children. The former term is definitely racist and I`ve been called it a few times in the past, but not for a long time.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 4 Feb 14:07
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
They`re even younger than I imagined. Just silly little boys. The law takes their ages into account when deciding on a suitable punishment. Why can`t we make allowances for these kids, while some of us are happy to give the adult involved a free ride?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 4 Feb 14:07
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
They`re even younger than I imagined. Just silly little boys. The law takes their ages into account when deciding on a suitable punishment. Why can`t we make allowances for these kids, while some of us are happy to give the adult involved a free ride?
Given that you cant buy pyros until 18, these have clearly been bought by adults and given to these kids to bring in and set off during the game. Its a shame the kids will rightly be punished whilst the adults will get off scott free.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:09
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 4 Feb 14:07
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
They`re even younger than I imagined. Just silly little boys. The law takes their ages into account when deciding on a suitable punishment. Why can`t we make allowances for these kids, while some of us are happy to give the adult involved a free ride?
Because stick and stones , are now coins and vapes and will injured someone, while sliding in front of fans with your fingers in your ears ,will not injured anyone .
The folk thowing stuff have got lucky they have not seriously injured someone doing their job.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:10
Because the adult did nothing wrong.
Happy to agree to disagree on it though but in my eyes I can’t see what Easton did wrong that should entice such a reaction. As for the pyros, no sympathy whatsoever it’s been mentioned for donkeys now not to do it and chosen to be ignored.
This wee encounter with the law will probably do them good in the long run.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:15
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 4 Feb 15:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 4 Feb 14:07
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
They`re even younger than I imagined. Just silly little boys. The law takes their ages into account when deciding on a suitable punishment. Why can`t we make allowances for these kids, while some of us are happy to give the adult involved a free ride?
Given that you cant buy pyros until 18, these have clearly been bought by adults and given to these kids to bring in and set off during the game. Its a shame the kids will rightly be punished whilst the adults will get off scott free.
Your sure it’s an adult buying them of course everyone knows you can’t legally buy them until you are 18 but when the things are all readily available to buy on Amazon how do we know they ain’t buying then themselves? unless it’s Royal Mail or DPD then the delivery firms Amazon use as well as their own drivers don’t have a great track record in asking for ID on the doorstep for age restricted products I know this because my 7yr old nephew was able to take in a set of knifes I had ordered over Christmas without so much as a question from the driver
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:34
Just seen a post on Facebook about the damage in the NW after the rovers game
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Tue 04 Feb 15:37)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 4 Feb 15:38
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 4 Feb 15:15
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 4 Feb 15:02
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 4 Feb 14:07
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Tue 4 Feb 13:44
Police have confirmed a 13 year old was arrested and charged with police assault and possession of pyrotechnics. A 16 year old and 2 further 13 year olds charged with other pyrotechnic offences following saturdays game.
They`re even younger than I imagined. Just silly little boys. The law takes their ages into account when deciding on a suitable punishment. Why can`t we make allowances for these kids, while some of us are happy to give the adult involved a free ride?
Given that you cant buy pyros until 18, these have clearly been bought by adults and given to these kids to bring in and set off during the game. Its a shame the kids will rightly be punished whilst the adults will get off scott free.
Your sure it’s an adult buying them of course everyone knows you can’t legally buy them until you are 18 but when the things are all readily available to buy on Amazon how do we know they ain’t buying then themselves? unless it’s Royal Mail or DPD then the delivery firms Amazon use as well as their own drivers don’t have a great track record in asking for ID on the doorstep for age restricted products I know this because my 7yr old nephew was able to take in a set of knifes I had ordered over Christmas without so much as a question from the driver
It used to be that Amazon drivers had to see ID and input numerous details even for games etc. I know as I was a driver for them for a year post Covid and it was all in the induction.
Not sure the exacts details these days, but knives may not be classed as restricted - but again not entirely sure on that anymore. (Might depend on the types of knife too)
Also, the drivers 99/100 times have no idea whats in the box, so if it’s not flagged on system they wouldn’t know. But pyros should be 100% age restricted like alcohol etc.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 4 Feb 16:46
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 4 Feb 16:07
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FFoZKnEwe/
The same little angels that get outraged by a player sliding in front of them ?
Anyone have the photo. I`ve not got Facebook. Thanks in advance
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 4 Feb 17:19
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Tue 4 Feb 16:46
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 4 Feb 16:07
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FFoZKnEwe/
The same little angels that get outraged by a player sliding in front of them ?
Anyone have the photo. I`ve not got Facebook. Thanks in advance
Its numerous images of broken seats within the Section North West sections…..some people stating that these seats just break easily and others that it was over exuberance in the goals.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 4 Feb 17:32
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 4 Feb 17:19
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Tue 4 Feb 16:46
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 4 Feb 16:07
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FFoZKnEwe/
The same little angels that get outraged by a player sliding in front of them ?
Anyone have the photo. I`ve not got Facebook. Thanks in advance
Its numerous images of broken seats within the Section North West sections…..some people stating that these seats just break easily and others that it was over exuberance in the goals.
Don`t think it will help if there standing on them and jumping about like fuds
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 4 Feb 18:08
Sat on these seats for years and not one has broken like that…
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 4 Feb 18:14
Quote:
Berry, Tue 4 Feb 18:08
Sat on these seats for years and not one has broken like that…
Me and ma son had a season ticket in the nw for years and never once had an issue with seats
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 4 Feb 18:16
Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Tue 4 Feb 08:19
Quote:
phutupfeet, Tue 4 Feb 08:13
Delighted with the new bodies in the door. Should give us legs all over the team, which we have certainly been missing.
On a separate note, I`m surprised at the amount of signings considering we`ve been told on here many times that Cook can`t negotiate and holds things up. The evidence over the weekend doesn`t look that way. Maybe he was handcuffed by the previous owners by what he could offer etc.
That’s cause he’s no involved in them.
Or, just maybe... the sh1te posted about Cook, is just that...utter made up, rumour mill p*sh.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 4 Feb 18:21
It`s Dylan Easton who is to blame.
In all seriousness shows how mindless some of the fuds are in that section.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Tue 4 Feb 18:27
I recognise that it’s not cheap, and may not be practical, to revert to old Fashioned terracing in recently modernised stadia, but all seater stadia are no longer compatible with how the paying public want to watch the game.
Personally I’m happy to sit on my hands and applaud politely every now and again but many are determined to stand, close together, and jump around. You see them tumbling over seats at all grounds and wonder how on earth is that safer than the old terracing. Surely a greater injury risk. The nightmare of Hillsborough isn’t forgotten and I get why the change was made but improvements to ticketing and infrastructure and the absence of cattle pen fencing, mitigate the risk of that happening again.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 4 Feb 19:30
Quote:
Berry, Tue 4 Feb 15:10
Because the adult did nothing wrong.
Happy to agree to disagree on it though but in my eyes I can’t see what Easton did wrong that should entice such a reaction. As for the pyros, no sympathy whatsoever it’s been mentioned for donkeys now not to do it and chosen to be ignored.
This wee encounter with the law will probably do them good in the long run.
Have to fundamentally disagree with your opening sentence, Berry. Do you honestly believe Easton behaved as a responsible adult? He`s 30 years old and must surely have known that his celebration in front of those kids would be more than enough to wind them up even more than they already were, given that many of them appeared to believe the penalty award was extremely soft. His action was tantamount to pouring petrol on a fire.
This is not in any way to excuse or condone the action of those little fandans who have brought shame and embarrassment on our club, the club they claim to support, not to mention the cost needed to replace the broken seats.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 4 Feb 19:50
It’s not visible on all of these photos, but could the club hold the season ticket holder of that seat responsible?
If someone else was in that seat,the season ticket holder would have to name him - a little like a driving offence when it’s the car that is flagged up?
Thoughts on this?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 04 Feb 19:50)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 4 Feb 20:03
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 4 Feb 19:50
It’s not visible on all of these photos, but could the club hold the season ticket holder of that seat responsible?
If someone else was in that seat,the season ticket holder would have to name him - a little like a driving offence when it’s the car that is flagged up?
Thoughts on this?
I suggested this a while back and got a “Im not losing my ticket because of some wee f@nny” response. Start banning the ST holder and they may start self policing and naming names.
Post Edited (Tue 04 Feb 20:03)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 4 Feb 20:08
The seats in East End are now around 27 yrs old and many are not in good shape.
One snapped recently when a stray ball hit it in the warm up.
Safe standing seriously needs to be looked at now funds seem to be available.
Kids can stand, there is a better atmosphere so it’s a win win scenario.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 4 Feb 20:12
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 4 Feb 20:08
The seats in East End are now around 27 yrs old and many are not in good shape.
One snapped recently when a stray ball hit it in the warm up.
Safe standing seriously needs to be looked at now funds seem to be available.
Kids can stand, there is a better atmosphere so it’s a win win scenario.
I`d agree with that to be fair, I leaned back in my seat to have a wee stretch on Saturday and it felt like it was about to burst. I don`t think it would take much to break them
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 4 Feb 21:33
Yep I honestly believe it GG.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 4 Feb 21:40
Each seat will cost £20-30. There are approx 10,000 of them. That`s 2-300k just to buy the seats.
I`d agree with most that these seats breaking are a result of over ecstatic fans celebrating and the plastic being brittle. The NW will be the worst affected by sun too.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 5 Feb 02:06
Quote:
jake89, Tue 4 Feb 21:40
Each seat will cost £20-30. There are approx 10,000 of them. That`s 2-300k just to buy the seats.
I`d agree with most that these seats breaking are a result of over ecstatic fans celebrating and the plastic being brittle. The NW will be the worst affected by sun too.
Shhhhhh that doesn’t fit the narrative of everyone in that section being knuckle dragging scum but you are right the plastic is brittle and the framework for each seat is all rusted to **** some of them you can even wobble back and forth
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 5 Feb 06:30
Quote:
Berry, Tue 4 Feb 21:33
Yep I honestly believe it GG.
Really? Let me tell you a true story going back to,a time when EEP had standing terracing in all but the main stand, and there was no segregation of fans. I was standing in what is now the NE. The Pars were playing Clyde, and a small group of their fans were standing about 20 yards away. When Clyde scored, they started to celebrate like they`d won the SC. A Pars fan, Harvey Jones, who may have had a few beers before the game, standing nearer to them than me turned round to them and shouted "Away back to the fekkin Gorbals, ya c***s!" The group descended on him and gave him a few slaps and kicks. Not a single Pars fan moved a muscle to help him.
I wonder why. 🤔
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 5 Feb 06:33
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Wed 5 Feb 02:06
Quote:
jake89, Tue 4 Feb 21:40
Each seat will cost £20-30. There are approx 10,000 of them. That`s 2-300k just to buy the seats.
I`d agree with most that these seats breaking are a result of over ecstatic fans celebrating and the plastic being brittle. The NW will be the worst affected by sun too.
Shhhhhh that doesn’t fit the narrative of everyone in that section being knuckle dragging scum but you are right the plastic is brittle and the framework for each seat is all rusted to **** some of them you can even wobble back and forth
For context I`ve had my seat for about 20 years and I`ve never broken it nor has it broken otherwise. That is the same for everyone in my row. NW have been good recently but Saturday was back to the usual crap of throwing stuff on the park and wrecking their own stadium.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Wed 05 Feb 06:33)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 5 Feb 07:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 5 Feb 06:30
Quote:
Berry, Tue 4 Feb 21:33
Yep I honestly believe it GG.
Really? Let me tell you a true story going back to,a time when EEP had standing terracing in all but the main stand, and there was no segregation of fans. I was standing in what is now the NE. The Pars were playing Clyde, and a small group of their fans were standing about 20 yards away. When Clyde scored, they started to celebrate like they`d won the SC. A Pars fan, Harvey Jones, who may have had a few beers before the game, standing nearer to them than me turned round to them and shouted "Away back to the fekkin Gorbals, ya c***s!" The group descended on him and gave him a few slaps and kicks. Not a single Pars fan moved a muscle to help him.
I wonder why. 🤔
Harvey, now there was a character.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 5 Feb 09:25
some of the comments on that FB post pretty much amount to "well the club should pay for safe standing and breaking seats wont be an issue"
Absolutey the club should spend 100s of thousands of pounds to give you an area where you can behave in a lawless and potentially dangerous manner.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 5 Feb 09:37
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 5 Feb 09:25
some of the comments on that FB post pretty much amount to "well the club should pay for safe standing and breaking seats wont be an issue"
Absolutey the club should spend 100s of thousands of pounds to give you an area where you can behave in a lawless and potentially dangerous manner.
I was amazed at some of the roasters in that thread and that is within our own support. I have had better conversations with Rangers supporters outside Ibrox than that. And the thing is that in Facebook they are visible 👀. Roasters.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 5 Feb 09:40
On the subject of " safe standing". I experienced this at Newcastle and didn`t enjoy it one bit. I felt extremely constrained as you cannot move forwards, or backwards, only sideways and that wasn`t easy. At full time the section took an age to clear as one row after the next filed slowly into the central aisle. All very orderly I know but in the event of an emergency and everyone needed to get out quick, onto the pitch say, it would have been a nightmare. Seats and open terracing are easy enough to clamber over whereas theses railings are not.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 5 Feb 09:53
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 5 Feb 07:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Wed 5 Feb 06:30
Quote:
Berry, Tue 4 Feb 21:33
Yep I honestly believe it GG.
Really? Let me tell you a true story going back to,a time when EEP had standing terracing in all but the main stand, and there was no segregation of fans. I was standing in what is now the NE. The Pars were playing Clyde, and a small group of their fans were standing about 20 yards away. When Clyde scored, they started to celebrate like they`d won the SC. A Pars fan, Harvey Jones, who may have had a few beers before the game, standing nearer to them than me turned round to them and shouted "Away back to the fekkin Gorbals, ya c***s!" The group descended on him and gave him a few slaps and kicks. Not a single Pars fan moved a muscle to help him.
I wonder why. 🤔
Harvey, now there was a character.
Was just thinking back to when I was a silly wee laddie some 60yrs ago, used to go to the "mob" on the half way line, sing the usual chants, offend various races and religions. The opposition fans only feet away from us, no cage in those days, only lost that area when the OF came to town. Supporters changed ends at half time, imagine the carnage that would cause now?
Anyway survived it all and now sit up the Norrie with my pal of over 60yrs!
Harvey Jones, now there`s a memory, a fellow Rosyth boy!🤔😎✌️
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 5 Feb 13:50
Harvey was something else - I mind him clattering his head off a crush barrier he was sitting under at a Firhill cup tie when Sir Fergie headed in the equaliser.
He was nursing a hangover beforehand - the double whammy cooled his jets !!!
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