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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:25
The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.
Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.
No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:32
To counter, the wee fuds throwing things give players pelters then get all petted lip when the player responds in kind.
Poor.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:34
The unacceptable names being thrown at him prior to taking the penalty didn’t help matters.
No place for us to take the higher moral ground on that.
Don’t think Easton did anything wrong.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:38
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 2 Feb 12:25
The SFA need to send clear instructions to match officials to clamp down on players celebrating goals directly in front of opposing fans.
Easton`s antics after the penalty were well out of order - and only serve to instigate trouble.
No excuse for his silliness or the unacceptable throwing of objects.
Disagree entirely. Players get absolute pelters all game, why should they not be allowed to celebrate a goal? As much as Easton is a fud, his celebration wasn`t over the top as some are making out.
Anyone in the crowd who can`t accept someone celebrating a goal in front of them without chucking something is the problem. Not the players.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:38
Always thought it was a yellow card offence for inciting fans, maybe I’m wrong.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:45
You can get a yellow card for taking your shirt off while celebrating a goal but it`s OK to deliberately wind up the opposition fans apparently. Where`s the logic in that?
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:57
Just watched the Raith highlights (which are really good) and there’s two absolute twats in the NW section with black and white masks or paint on with the slitting the throat gesture.
Honestly what an absolute mess some people are.
Easton went over there for the banter.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 2 Feb 12:58
He coaches young kids. Think about that.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:04
What did he do wrong though? He ran over after being called some vile names and just stuck his fingers in his ears?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:06
I said on another post I remember when we were signing about Scott McDonald taking it up the erse . When he scored and celebrated in front of them it was all of a sudden unacceptable?
If you can`t go to a game without throwing stuff at players there are teams in Glasgow where you can go and act like that.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:10
He behaved like a classless clown.
You can`t be running direct to the oppositions fans and giving it the big man. That`s inciting trouble for me, the laddie undoubtedly can play but there`s aspects to his game that`s questionable at best.
I presume the coaching he does with Cardle isn`t voluntary, yet the same folk he`s gesturing to in the crowd are the same folk who`ll be paying fees to Cardle. Not a role-model for those kids in any way with his carry-on.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:17
Paint Dylan Easton blue and he’s a Smurf, how can you get annoyed at a Smurf?
We got the last laugh so who cares…….
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:17
I seem remember when celebrating in front of opposition fans was a booking.
Players should be told not to imho by the officials, regardless of any goading.
Not justifying the behaviour of morons in our support or any other teams supporters.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:18
Pah, nonsense. Boy was getting pelters from that section prior to the penalty, getting called some rather unpleasant names which is classless.
He then scored a nicely taken penalty under that pressure and went over there to indicate that it was water off a ducks back, he wouldn’t let people like that affect him.
He stayed on the pitch, the fingers in ear thing was for seconds before he then celebrated with his team.
Fair play in my book, then you get the kids with the slit throat gestures and throwing the coins. Muppets.
Throughout the remainder of the game all the singing from Easton was fair enough, but he didn’t react once.
I’m not his biggest fan by any stretch but didn’t really see anything worth wetting our pants over yesterday.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:50
Definitely should be a bookable offence if it isn`t already. Doesn`t matter what the fans have done - that`s not really the referee`s concern. It`s inciting the crowd and could lead to safety concerns. Similar level to jumping into the home fans to celebrate - bookable offence because of risk to crowd safety.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 2 Feb 13:54
I am pretty sure a celebration like that in front of opposition fans in an Old firm match ( No away fans recently of course) or an Edinburgh derby would incur a booking.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 2 Feb 14:35
What is it with some fans. Dish out vile abuse then are aghast when the recepient of the vile abuse gives a bit back by running over and cupping his ears.
Don’t dish it out if you can’t take a bit back. What on earth were you greetin about?
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:01
Remember the OF game when Dallas was hit by the coin and gave Rangers the penalty, Albertz said later that he was told if scored to wheel back to his own half and not go anywhere near the Celtic fans.
Police match commander used to meet with refs before each game, not sure if they still do, and would no doubt mention stuff like this.
At the very least the linesman should have been ushering them back to their own half. Common sense at least, sure the linesman in the Falkirk game handled it a lot better when Morrison etc came across after their opening goal.
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Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 15:02)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:02
Fans stand calling the guy a peado before the penalty but get worked up about him sliding in front of that area, not off the park or even close to it, with his fingers in his ears…….then don’t mention anything about the morons launching coins at the guy 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:07
"Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive. choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting.
A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for
-acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:17
Absolutely no excuse to throw things at a player and I can’t believe anyone can point fingers at Easton for this. Matty Todd done the exact same thing in the league cup last season and we thought it was brilliant. I don’t think he received anywhere near the abuse Easton did either…If you’re happy giving abuse to a player, expect to take it back when he scores. All he did was slide to the fans with his fingers in his ears and laugh at the Norrie for winning the penalty. People need to learn to take it back if they’re happy to give it. The celebration Scott McDonald gave a few years ago was an excellent reply to the fan songs and people should see the funny side rather than frothing at the mouth because the player had the audacity to get his own back.
It’s not going to go down to well when the club have to pay for increased policing, pay a hefty fine or shut down the stand. It’s a shame because the majority create an excellent atmosphere that will seriously help the players. I just wish they could stick to that.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:26
Bang on ^^^
On Matty Todd, there was even a pin badge made of it.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:51
Here`s Matty Todd doing pretty much the same thing at Stark`s and we don`t remember it as "inciting the crowd" or worthy of a booking, we remember it as one of the most iconic Pars images of the 21st century.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 2 Feb 15:56
Separate the two things.
Should fans be acting like that? Clearly not.
The main point of the thread though: should the referee take action when a player deliberately incites crowd trouble? Yes.
I`m sure there`s nothing in the rule book that says a player`s actions can be overlooked if the fans were asking for it.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:20
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:02
Fans stand calling the guy a peado before the penalty but get worked up about him sliding in front of that area, not off the park or even close to it, with his fingers in his ears…….then don’t mention anything about the morons launching coins at the guy 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Totally agree mate.. nae need for the paedo bit.. I personally don`t think that passable to sing that about any player
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:44
"Separate the two things.
Should fans be acting like that? Clearly not.
The main point of the thread though: should the referee take action when a player deliberately incites crowd trouble? Yes.
I`m sure there`s nothing in the rule book that says a player`s actions can be overlooked if the fans were asking for it. "
It`s clear that some responders can`t separate the two issues - and try to justify the scenario that played out as OK because two wrongs make a right.
Vitriolic abuse directed at any opponent is unacceptable - but that does not excuse the player from deliberately indulging in antics which are liable to cause crowd bother.
Law 12 is clear on the matter - maybe the referee needs refresher training ?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 2 Feb 16:52
It`s obvious that some of the "fans" in that section of the NW couldn`t care less about the club and it`s reputation. They are irresponsible and their own ego and gratification is top of their agenda. Anarchy reigns with some. They know the rules about pyrotechnics and yet they smuggle them in. Their actions give them a profile with their fellows that they are probably missing in day to day life. They see English Premiership games where objects are thrown at players taking corners, with impunity so that gives them license to do likewise. On the plus side that section of the NW does add positively to the occasion and our own players play up to them when we score. But the cost of having them comes at a price that may become too much.
Messr. Easton, however does not have the excuse of juvenile delinquency to fall back on. He is supposed to be an adult. To allow himself to be provoked by infantile chanting shows a serious lack of the level of maturity and judgement you would expect from a seasoned professional.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:22
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
Run to the other end of the pitch to celebrate.. usually it`s called banter between players and opposite teams supporters.. they diny expect to have things thrown at them though
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:49
this has and will continue to happen in football players reacting to oposition fans ,I dont see any problwm with it ,where I do have a problem is people trying to justify its ok to throw missiles onto the park and blame it on the player celebration ,we have had pars players do similar in the past
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 17:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
As an adult, a parent and a football fan, I think he behaved just fine after being called a peado from the fans in that area. If you think its fine for fans to hurl that sort of abuse (and then missiles) at a pro footballer for sliding on his knees 20 yards away from them, then maybe after your many years of being a fan you should reevaluate.
Can’t believe theres actually grown adults that are lifelong football thinking he done something wrong 😂 and think its fine he got stuff launched at him.
By the way, its not his actions that will cost the club thousands upon thousands in fines and policing costs.
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Topic Originator: Par Dan
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 18:18)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:24
Quote:
Par Dan, Sun 2 Feb 18:18
I’m in two minds about it . That section is full of utter bams that have caused issues for years . There has been something thrown on the Park at every big game going back years.
At the same time he’s a footballer earning a comfortable wage and imo is well compensated for copping a bit of stick now and again.
Theres stick and theres calling a player a peado……
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:52
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 17:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 17:13
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sun 2 Feb 15:04
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 2 Feb 14:00
Right, let`s get a few things straight here. Some fans in the NW let our club down with their unacceptable behaviour, which will inevitably have consequences. We will almost certainly be looking at a fine, and the club may decide to close the NW, which would be a real shame as those youngsters create a great atmosphere and help lift the players.
Players have a responsibility to ensure they do not incite crowd trouble. Had the referee shown Easton a yellow card for "unsporting behaviour" straight away that might have diffused the situation immediately. I can`t agree that the behaviour of these kids in the NW meant Easton was entitled to run over and taunt them. He`s an adult and needs to show restraint.
Imagine a classroom situation in which some pupils verbally abuse their teacher and the teacher then replies in kind. I wonder how that might pan out? Does anyone think the teacher would not find him/ herself in some very hot water?
How many wrongs make a right?
Didn’t realise that Easton ran over to the fans and started launching coins into the crowd……
So you think he behaved in a responsible adult manner by running over to wind up the youngsters in the NW? The sensible thing for him to do if he wanted to celebrate was to run down to his own fans at the other end. I can`t imagine they would have been upset by it.
As an adult, a parent and a football fan, I think he behaved just fine after being called a peado from the fans in that area. If you think its fine for fans to hurl that sort of abuse (and then missiles) at a pro footballer for sliding on his knees 20 yards away from them, then maybe after your many years of being a fan you should reevaluate.
Can’t believe theres actually grown adults that are lifelong football thinking he done something wrong 😂 and think its fine he got stuff launched at him.
By the way, its not his actions that will cost the club thousands upon thousands in fines and policing costs.
I don`t think our fans` behaviour is fine at all, Dave. If you go back and read my posts, you`ll find that I called it unacceptable and that two wrongs (or any number) don`t make a right. I just think that, as an adult, Easton should have behaved in a more dignified and responsible manner. Not suggesting that would have been easy but he inflamed an already volatile situation further.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Feb 18:58
Quote:
RossF, Sun 2 Feb 15:17
Absolutely no excuse to throw things at a player and I can’t believe anyone can point fingers at Easton for this. Matty Todd done the exact same thing in the league cup last season and we thought it was brilliant. I don’t think he received anywhere near the abuse Easton did either…If you’re happy giving abuse to a player, expect to take it back when he scores. All he did was slide to the fans with his fingers in his ears and laugh at the Norrie for winning the penalty. People need to learn to take it back if they’re happy to give it. The celebration Scott McDonald gave a few years ago was an excellent reply to the fan songs and people should see the funny side rather than frothing at the mouth because the player had the audacity to get his own back.
It’s not going to go down to well when the club have to pay for increased policing, pay a hefty fine or shut down the stand. It’s a shame because the majority create an excellent atmosphere that will seriously help the players. I just wish they could stick to that.
No sensible Pars fan would condone what Todd did. It doesn`t matter which club any footballer plays for, he has a responsibility to not behave in a way that may incite crowd trouble. To excuse the poor behaviour of any player by saying "Player X did it, too", is flawed in the extreme.
Eta. I've already said on this thread that the behaviour of some fans in the NW is completely unacceptable and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms. There's no place for it in our game.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sun 02 Feb 19:01)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 2 Feb 19:04
My first instinct on seeing Easton’s reaction in even getting the penalty was he’s going to wind up the NW section.
He made gestures towards the Norrie stand prior to even taking the penalty.
It was obvious having scored what he was going to do and he’s not the first to do so at EEP.
There were plenty of police and stewards there to tell him to move away but he was allowed to carry on.
Absolutely no excuse for the object(s) getting hurled from our section at all though.
No proper fan would wish to harm our club financially so these young fannies should take a good look at themselves.
I’ll say it again. Get a fine mesh net put in front of that section to stop objects reaching the pitch.
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