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 Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:07

Hearing that we are close with Sheffield for a deal for highly rated winger/striker! They only signed in January and is very highly rated however they do not have enough permit spaces in their squad to register new signings...

It was James Bords Company that Identified the player for them last January, Could be a real statement signing that!



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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: rikaka  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:26

An AI driving February signing who hasn`t featured at all. Taking up a work permit space, they need shot of him, looks like no one is interested so he`s getting punted up here.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:28

Maybe not ready for that level but should do just fine in the Scottish Championship, they made a big deal when he signed for them.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:32

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rikaka, Tue 12 Aug 15:26

An AI driving February signing who hasn`t featured at all. Taking up a work permit space, they need shot of him, looks like no one is interested so he`s getting punted up here.


Are you ok?

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:36

Given they spent about 1.5 million to bring him in and it would have to be a permanent transfer, I can`t see it.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: RMGpar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:38

You better believe it .)

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: ParfectXI  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:39

As long as he doesnt cost much and isnt the Striker thats been touted because his strike rate in the Peru league is Meh at best! And i’d doubt the Perubian league is better than ours

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 15:51

8 goals and 6 assists in 24 games - for a side who missed out on the title by 2 points. Seems reasonable to me.

Has also played in the Copa Sudamericana and Peru u23s.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Alf  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 16:09

Quote:

kelty_par, Tue 12 Aug 15:36

Given they spent about 1.5 million to bring him in and it would have to be a permanent transfer, I can`t see it.


Can`t see what Sheffield United paid for him, where did 1.5 million come from?
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 16:26

Football transfer site suggests he made the move for €1.4m.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 16:29

If we sign him it wouldn’t officially be a loan deal but it is that in effect.
Pars would sign him for a nominal fee but should he be a success at Dunfermline, they have first right to buy back or failing that, have a huge chunk of a sell on fee.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 16:30

It might be a case of using the 2 clubs to their advantage. Sell him with an option to buy back once things are settled if he has performed well.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Benny74  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 17:13

Depends what Neil Lennon thinks of him.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Alf  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 17:29

Michael wood reporting on X that this is happening, some red tape issues to sort but should be a pars player for the trip to Starks park
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 17:34

This deal would cost an absolute fortune. There must be some jigerry pokery behind the scenes to make this happen.

This will be Istvan Kozma type money.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: KirklistonPar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:05

Looks like he could very effective in this league. Fingers crossed.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:11

Yeah I’ve got a feeling this guy is going to do very well for us if he signs
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:12

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KirklistonPar, Tue 12 Aug 18:05

Looks like he could very effective in this league. Fingers crossed.


We can’t possibly know that, based on his experiences to date. If he comes, we just have to hope he can do a turn for us.




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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:21

If he signs presumably it`ll be because NL thinks he can do a job for us.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:24

I worked for about 15 months in Peru many years ago. You will see people on football pitches in Lima playing football at all hours of the night.

Taxi drivers only ever mentioned two things, how they beat us in the world cup in 1978, and Alan Rough for his long golden locks.

I remember a great goal by Cubillas that caught Roughy out.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Dafc96  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:37

courier reporting it cost sheffield utd over 1 million to bring him in,

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:53

started 14 games in 4 seasons if transfermrkt site is correct.

if it happens then good luck to him but right now, not seeing any sense in this at all.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:55

I know nothing about the guy but you would imagine playing for a side challenging for the Peruvian title, he must be fairly decent. For Sheffield United to pay £1,000,000 for him, they must have thought he had some potential. Fair enough, he hasn`t got into their team, but that`s a club that`s Yo-Yo-ing between the Championship and the EPL. Things moved fast there, if they have someone better that they need to make a place for, then, that can happen. It doesn`t mean he`s written off, and we could provide him with a platform to get back to that level.

By the sound of it, he`s a left winger, but right footed and can also play right wing, left midfield, attacking midfield or centre forward. Pretty versatile and if he`s good enough, those are areas that need strengthening.

It does worry me a bit, the whole relationship between clubs in a group. He could come here, do REALLY well and go to Cordoba or back to Sheffield United for free. Or could drop out the team and be sent to Sofia. I do worry that our club could just become second fiddle to some other club. Not much we can do about that I guess, so we will just need to hope that this set up works for all the clubs involved
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 18:57

Chris Wilder would have been the manager when Caceres signed. He was sacked in June and replaced by Reuben Selles who presumably thinks Caceres` visa would be better utilised to fill another place in the squad. It happens all the time in football when managers change.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:16

Quote:

GJS93, Tue 12 Aug 18:53

started 14 games in 4 seasons if transfermrkt site is correct.

if it happens then good luck to him but right now, not seeing any sense in this at all.


46 games in the topflight of Peru since 2023 scoring 11 goals with 8 assists according to FotMob.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:22

I have no doubt he would do well in the championship

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:43

Whilst I think we wouldn’t have to pay much in transfer fees, (James Bord is involved with both clubs), his wages will be an issue as I imagine he’ll be on quite a lot in Sheffield much more than we can afford.
Bord himself might subsidise his wages to make the move.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:47

£4k a week according to some sites.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:54

That potentially could cause issues within the group…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:59

A fantastic deal for us potentially but I would imagine Sheffield United fans would be pretty peed off if a player they just spent over a million on is allowed to sign for a Scottish Championship side for almost nothing. Even if there`s a buy-back or sell on clause they`re unlikely to see that money back.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Kpar2  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 19:59

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desparado, Tue 12 Aug 19:54

That potentially could cause issues within the group…


How buddy?
In any work place if there is a better preforming person in my opinion I wouldn`t have a problem with them being paid more!! It would make me want to improve and get to that level where I benefit financially.

Keep ur chin up!
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:00

Quote:

Kpar2, Tue 12 Aug 19:59

Quote:

desparado, Tue 12 Aug 19:54

That potentially could cause issues within the group…


How buddy?
In any work place if there is a better preforming person in my opinion I wouldn`t have a problem with them being paid more!! It would make me want to improve and get to that level where I benefit financially.


That all depends how good he is though.
Other players seeing him on 8 times less wages would be p1ssed off if he doesn’t deliver.
On that subject , I’m assuming Wanyama was on a great wage but turned out to be useless on the pitch.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: LesliePar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:01

Do people think Bord has a stake in Sheffield United? He doesn`t, they are simply using the data science his company provides.

COYP!

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:02

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desparado, Tue 12 Aug 19:54

That potentially could cause issues within the group…


Desparado,you could say that at almost every club ,
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Ianoappar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:06

Guy is being used in this situation to suit Sheffield if and when he comes,will wish him well

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:23

he wants a stake in them LesliePar, i posted it a few months ago
https://dafc.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=1970913&t=1970913&phorum_uriauth=gjs93%3Ab670548553d0bc84af6871bc3c9943ac

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: LesliePar  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:27

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GJS93, Tue 12 Aug 21:23

he wants a stake in them LesliePar, i posted it a few months ago
https://dafc.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=1970913&t=1970913&phorum_uriauth=gjs93%3Ab670548553d0bc84af6871bc3c9943ac


Wants but doesn`t yet, even if he was part of their ownership group there`s absolutely nothing wrong with intragroup transfers and it happens all the time.

COYP!

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:32

If we`re getting guys (even on loan) who have played a lot of games in Peruvian top flight, and signed up by 2nd tier/top flight English clubs, this in my books is outstanding.

The Blades are using the database, so this is serious stuff-its not Airdrie with Concilium.

We wait and see, but there`s not been anything wrong with any of our signings so far, usually you expect a few duds, or players where it just doesn`t work, not so far.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Hunter78  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 21:59

Quote:

neils, Tue 12 Aug 21:32

If we`re getting guys (even on loan) who have played a lot of games in Peruvian top flight, and signed up by 2nd tier/top flight English clubs, this in my books is outstanding.

The Blades are using the database, so this is serious stuff-its not Airdrie with Concilium.

We wait and see, but there`s not been anything wrong with any of our signings so far, usually you expect a few duds, or players where it just doesn`t work, not so far.


Nearly all of Bords signings last season were duds, including Wanyama. Young boys signed this season have a long way to go to prove anything.

Granted JCM, Gilmour and Amade look good, the rest jury’s still out
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Tue 12 Aug 22:27

Quote:

Hunter78, Tue 12 Aug 21:59

Quote:

neils, Tue 12 Aug 21:32

If we`re getting guys (even on loan) who have played a lot of games in Peruvian top flight, and signed up by 2nd tier/top flight English clubs, this in my books is outstanding.

The Blades are using the database, so this is serious stuff-its not Airdrie with Concilium.

We wait and see, but there`s not been anything wrong with any of our signings so far, usually you expect a few duds, or players where it just doesn`t work, not so far.


Nearly all of Bords signings last season were duds, including Wanyama. Young boys signed this season have a long way to go to prove anything.

Granted JCM, Gilmour and Amade look good, the rest jury’s still out


I very much doubt Wanyama had anything to do with Bord.

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle  
Date:   Wed 13 Aug 11:03

Sheffield Utd could sell him for a £1 to us, with a first refusal buy back for a £1.
If he plays regularly he gains some card or other up here. Then it doesn`t count against their slot number when he goes back.
Effectively a loan but needs to be a sale to not take up a slot.
Just taking that from what was on twitter
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: AlterPar  
Date:   Wed 13 Aug 11:15

Pretty smart to be honest. He looks pretty skillful.
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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Wed 13 Aug 11:21

and what about his wages?

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Kpar2  
Date:   Wed 13 Aug 11:22

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GJS93, Wed 13 Aug 11:21

and what about his wages?


Hope he enjoys them 👍👍👍

Keep ur chin up!

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 Re: Jefferson Cacedes
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Wed 13 Aug 11:31

Quote:

Kpar2, Wed 13 Aug 11:22

Quote:

GJS93, Wed 13 Aug 11:21

and what about his wages?


Hope he enjoys them 👍👍👍


😂😂

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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