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 Belarus ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡พ 0-2 ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ Scotland FT
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:05

Live on BBC Scotland channel (9) ko7.45pm and BBC One Scotland from 7.30pm. Thanks, AlwaysaPar.

A win please Scotland.

Getintaethum!

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€

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Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:10

Canโ€™t afford to slip up here thatโ€™s for sureโ€ฆ.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:24

McKenna, Johnston, Doak and Gilmour start




It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:25

It`s actually on BBC One Scotland as far as I can see......
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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:27

Makes sense to bring McKenna and Gilmour in where we are likely to have more of the ball. Gannon-Doak obviously is a no trainer in a game where we`ll need to break down a stubborn defence. I`d have changed up the strikers myself but hopefully Bowie and Hirst get a decent amount of minutes rather than a token few minutes at the end.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:35

A. Gunn
A. Robertson (c), Captain
S. McKenna
J. Souttar
M. Johnston
B. Gilmour
L. Ferguson
B. Gannon-Doak
S. McTominay
J. McGinn
C. Adams

Subs
K. Bowie
R. Christie
Z. Clark
J. Doig
L. Dykes
G. Hanley
J. Hendry
A. Hickey
G. Hirst
L. Kelly
K. McLean
L. Miller

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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 18:59

Just a bit of Pars interest, Max Johnston is son of our former manager, Alan. Different position.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 19:34

Iโ€™m predicting 3-0โ€ฆdonโ€™t let me down lads ๐Ÿ˜‚

No idea what Bowie has to do to start, thought Clarke would have been all over him as well, looks like the mobile target man that he likes.
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 19:42

Shame itโ€™s an empty stadium

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:01

This is the type of game we tend to drop points
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Topic Originator: maradona86  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:04

Is Souttar the only one in the starting eleven from our domestic leagues?
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:08

Adams offers absolutely nothing in a game like this....

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:18

Greece 0-1 Denmark

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:28

"Adams offers absolutely nothing in a game like this...."

Boom! Knew that would work!

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:28

GOALLLLLLLL
Che Adams

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:29

Nice build-up and good striker`s finish.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:29

Finally McGinn and McSauce do something worthwhile recently to assist it!
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Topic Originator: maradona86  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:29

McTominay different class again
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:33

Quote:

Dave_1885, Mon 8 Sep 20:29

Finally McGinn and McSauce do something worthwhile recently to assist it!


McSauce ๐Ÿ˜‚

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:34

Have always liked that Adams fellow ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคช

๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿคฃ

Mon Scotland ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ


COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:35

A stadium devoid of atmosphere doesn`t help, just ban them altogether!
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Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:37

Need to speed up the tempo a bit more, far too slow in possession.

Has the referee been on the drink beforehand? Some bizarre decisions
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:51

Quote:

king lad, Mon 8 Sep 20:37

Need to speed up the tempo a bit more, far too slow in possession.


Thatโ€™s Steve Clarke football, no through balls either
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:54

How the hell is that not a red, jeez oh ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:55

Quote:

maradona86, Mon 8 Sep 20:29

McTominay different class again


Heโ€™s missed two good chances ๐Ÿ˜‚ his assist was very good though.
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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:57

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d3monstrate, Mon 8 Sept 20:08

Adams offers absolutely nothing in a game like this....


You nearly got away with that ;)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 20:58

Quote:

SusieQ, Mon 8 Sep 20:34

Have always liked that Adams fellow ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคช

๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿคฃ

Mon Scotland ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ


Iโ€™m saying nothing ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:00

Audience in Temple Bar, Tenerife just about falling asleep!๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿน๐Ÿฅƒ
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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:03

Hehe AAPS - knew you`d like that ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿคช๐Ÿคฃ


Could do with a Greek equaliser ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿผ


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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:07

...and breathe?
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:07

GOALLLLLLLL numero 2
OG Volkov

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:08

Greece 0-2 Denmark

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:08

Dammit Denmark

We should see this out now tho so not a disaster.


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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:11

Quote:

SusieQ, Mon 8 Sep 21:08

Dammit Denmark

We should see this out now tho so not a disaster.


Good for us - 4 points off Greece and home wins v Danes and Belarusโ€ฆโ€ฆ
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Greece 0-3 Denmark

โ€Buffyโ€™s Buns are the finest in Fifeโ€, J. Spence 2019โ€
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Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Steve Clarke`s subs are so uninspiring, 2-0 up against a terrible team and he can`t bring on Lennon Miller or Kieran Bowie, instead we have Dykes and McLean...
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:28

Quote:

king lad, Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Steve Clarke`s subs are so uninspiring, 2-0 up against a terrible team and he can`t bring on Lennon Miller or Kieran Bowie, instead we have Dykes and McLean...


Agreed. Put on youngsters with nothing to lose for last 10 mins and we may have got a 3rd.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:28

Just said that too - utterly pointless subs.

Bowie and Miller should have been on once we went 2 up.

Give these lads some game time ffs ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ’ฉ


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Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:31

Aye if you can`t play them now, when can you play them?

Decent performance, have to admit didn`t bank on Greece getting a doing.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 21:55

Quote:

king lad, Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Steve Clarke`s subs are so uninspiring, 2-0 up against a terrible team and he can`t bring on Lennon Miller or Kieran Bowie, instead we have Dykes and McLean...


Sadly, he wonโ€™t change. No ambition or forward thinking.
Whenever he goes, he will leave with an aging squad.




It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:03

It`s easy picking subs when you`re watching the telly and your decisions have no consequences.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:03

He really just cant help himself. Just infuriating
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:03

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Mon 8 Sep 21:55

Quote:

king lad, Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Steve Clarke`s subs are so uninspiring, 2-0 up against a terrible team and he can`t bring on Lennon Miller or Kieran Bowie, instead we have Dykes and McLean...


Sadly, he wonโ€™t change. No ambition or forward thinking.
Whenever he goes, he will leave with an aging squad.


Heโ€™s following Craig Brown in that respect.

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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:05

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Mon 8 Sep 21:55

Quote:

king lad, Mon 8 Sep 21:26

Steve Clarke`s subs are so uninspiring, 2-0 up against a terrible team and he can`t bring on Lennon Miller or Kieran Bowie, instead we have Dykes and McLean...


Whenever he goes, he will leave with an aging squad.


Heโ€™ll go in the summer,Iโ€™m sure of it and Iโ€™m sorry Raymie, but heโ€™s not leaving us withan aging squad mateโ€ฆ..Gordon and maybe Hanley & McLean aside, I suspect the squad will be pushing for the next Euros and World Cup.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:08

Great return from the opening two games. Clark has done a great job.

Look at the Greeks opening up against the Danes. The point on Friday looks fantastic.

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Mon 8 Sep 22:08

Last 20 qualifiers in group stages (WC 2022, Euros 2024, WC 2026):

P20, W13, D5, L2.

For the record, I don`t think we`ll qualify for the World Cup but I also don`t think there`s a better option out there who would increase our chances.

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Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 08:15

Thatโ€™s a phenomenal record when you see it like that. No one else could come close.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 08:40

Really enjoyed the halftime stuff with McCann. Some very decent actual analysis and tactical stuff he went into with interesting detail


Meanwhile McFadden and Thompson on the actual commentary sounded like two pals watching it together down the pub.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 09:41

I always think Neil McCann knows his stuff tactically and wonder why he struggled with club management. Maybe he lacks the `people skills` that are another important aspect of being a successful manager.

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 10:05

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wee eck, Tue 9 Sep 09:41

I always think Neil McCann knows his stuff tactically and wonder why he struggled with club management. Maybe he lacks the `people skills` that are another important aspect of being a successful manager.


I was sat at a restaurant table next to him in North Berwick a few years back. I think your assumption about his other skills, is probably accurate?




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Ron Atkinson - 1983


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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 12:09

I`m intrigued, Raymie. Was he rude to the waiter - or maybe eating peas with his knife?

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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 12:33

Clarkโ€™s come in and stopped the cap handout parade and actually built a proper squad with a clear idea behind it. Folk forget we went dacades without qualifying for a euros , and heโ€™s done it twice on the spin. Performances at the finals havenโ€™t been what weโ€™d all want, but at least weโ€™re there. That in itself is progress compared to the revolving door of failures we had before. And I was at every game of both euros finals the performance wasn`t great but still progress.

Hanley was excellent in Copenhagen and there are folk sitting behind keyboards questioning him who clearly donโ€™t watch the game properly.

Wouldโ€™ve bitten your hand off for 4 points from this camp and thought we looked organised in both matches. Shows Clark can set us up different ways and the players buy into it.

Massive October coming up, but I fancy us at Hampden with the crowd right behind them.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 12:49

Great post, cammy.

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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 13:12

His loyalty can be frustrating, we go into future games/campaigns risking "no experience" when we have chances to build experience in guys like Lennon Miller but we end up seeing Kenny Mclean and running guys like mctominay/mcginn into the ground by asking them to play 90 mins every game.

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 13:50

Our midfield 5 last night was:

McGinn (30 years old)
McTominay (28 years old)
Ferguson (26 years old)
Gilmour (24 years old)
Gannon Doak (19 years old)

I don`t think there`s any massive worry about them all retiring en masse due to old age and leaving 19-year old Lennon Miller as the elder statesman marshalling round a bunch of kids.

Also, it`s Clarke`s job to get results now. At no point (until maybe the 90th minute when Miller came on) were we guaranteed to win last night. Belarus always had some semblance of attacking threat.

If he brought on an inexperienced player with 15 minutes to go, he makes a mistake, it goes 2-1 and then we end up in panic mode and draw 2-2, there are not many people who would be looking at the silver lining of us blooding a youngster, which could yield dividends over the next couple of World Cup campaigns.

The Nations League or friendlies are better places to integrate young/new players for the first time - as we did with 21 year old Max Johnston, who started last night.

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 16:15

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cammypar 1995, Tue 9 Sept 12:33

Clarkโ€™s come in and stopped the cap handout parade and actually built a proper squad with a clear idea behind it. Folk forget we went dacades without qualifying for a euros , and heโ€™s done it twice on the spin. Performances at the finals havenโ€™t been what weโ€™d all want, but at least weโ€™re there. That in itself is progress compared to the revolving door of failures we had before. And I was at every game of both euros finals the performance wasn`t great but still progress.

Hanley was excellent in Copenhagen and there are folk sitting behind keyboards questioning him who clearly donโ€™t watch the game properly.

Wouldโ€™ve bitten your hand off for 4 points from this camp and thought we looked organised in both matches. Shows Clark can set us up different ways and the players buy into it.

Massive October coming up, but I fancy us at Hampden with the crowd right behind them.


Whilst I agree with most of that there is no doubt Clarke has been massively helped with the Euros now having 50% more teams in it compared to his predecessors. When we qualified in 92 and 96 there were only 8 and 16 teams who qualified and now we are at 24. Under the current criteria we would have qualified more under previous managers?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 16:43

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Playup_Pompey, Tue 9 Sept 13:12

His loyalty can be frustrating, we go into future games/campaigns risking "no experience" when we have chances to build experience in guys like Lennon Miller but we end up seeing Kenny Mclean and running guys like mctominay/mcginn into the ground by asking them to play 90 mins every game.


Heโ€™s hardly running them into the ground though, is he?

Letโ€™s be honest, if heโ€™d started all the โ€œno experienceโ€ and weโ€™d taken a hiding last night, the pitchforks wouldโ€™ve been out before the final whistle. People need to accept where the Scotland team is at the minute and just enjoy the fact weโ€™re having a bit of success and the recent results have put us in a great position to qualify for another major finals.

Miller came on and looked sharp, fair enough, but it was only a cameo. Ferguson had to bide his time before breaking in and heโ€™s all the better for it. Thereโ€™s nothing wrong with easing players in rather than chucking them into the deep end just to apese the armchair managers.

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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 18:30

Chilokoa-Mullen (and former par Mebudeโ€™s brother) playing in the first 11 for Scotland u21s v Portugal u21s tonight at 7pm.

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Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 18:49

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buffy, Tue 9 Sept 18:30

Chilokoa-Mullen (and former par Mebude) playing in the first 11 for Scotland u21s v Portugal u21s tonight at 7pm.


It`s Dapo`s brother that is playing. Dapo doesn`t play for anyone currently as far as I know.
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Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 19:21

Ah I just spotted that. Thanks.

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Topic Originator: Jock Par36  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 19:51

3pts for Scotland but it wasn`t
very impressive.

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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Tue 9 Sep 20:46

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cammypar 1995, Tue 9 Sep 12:33

Massive October coming up, but I fancy us at Hampden with the crowd right behind them.


Great post Cammy and totally agree, however I would like to pick out this part.

As someone who probably hasnโ€™t missed a home game in 15 years (Covid seasons aside), then I can honestly say that the Hampden Roar and the crowd being right behind them, is as big a myth as the Loch Ness Monster mate.

Time and time and time again, Hampden is like a library, full of lots of negative loan voices. Why the SFA have never put together a singing section or worked at improving the atmosphere is beyond me. Yes, there are exceptions (the Spain game as an example) but thatโ€™s not the norm in my eyes.
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 08:37

"Great post Cammy and totally agree, however I would like to pick out this part.

As someone who probably hasnโ€™t missed a home game in 15 years (Covid seasons aside), then I can honestly say that the Hampden Roar and the crowd being right behind them, is as big a myth as the Loch Ness Monster mate.

Time and time and time again, Hampden is like a library, full of lots of negative loan voices. Why the SFA have never put together a singing section or worked at improving the atmosphere is beyond me. Yes, there are exceptions (the Spain game as an example) but thatโ€™s not the norm in my eyes"

Totally agree Buster. Atmosphere at Hampden has been poor for years. There will be occasional moments against the bigger teams if we`re doing well, Spain, England, but more often than not it`s flat.

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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 08:53

Given what greece done on last visit to hampden i expect it to be a similar line up/performance to friday night. Discipline and structured in defence and look to take the chances when we get forwards on the counter

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 11:19

Is the atmosphere got anything to do with how far away fans are from the pitch, especially behind the goals ?




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Topic Originator: doctordandruff  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 12:12

I think Hampden is no different from anywhere else in terms of the mood of the crowd. Its all down to the team. If the players are up for it and playing with purpose, the atmosphere can be fantastic.

At the Greece game, you could sense the deflation in the crowd when the team was announced. You could see we were beat after the first 10 minutes and the crowd basically didn`t make a peep after the national anthem. I think the roar is still there, but you have to give them something to shout about.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 13:02

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Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Sept 11:19

Is the atmosphere got anything to do with how far away fans are from the pitch, especially behind the goals ?


Running track was always there at the old Hampden, didn`t stop the great roar at games,especially at the "Rangers " end.

New stadium stopped the "water" falls and the dust storm from the ash!
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Topic Originator: Lambo1885  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 13:25

"Is the atmosphere got anything to do with how far away fans are from the pitch, especially behind the goals ?"

It probably doesn`t help. Hampden isn`t the best place to watch football imo, especially if you`re behind the goals.

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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 14:04

Hampden needs revamped or moved to a new place so there is an intimidating atmosphere.

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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.

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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 14:59

The Stadium in Copenhagen last week was really impressive, close to pitch with steep stands etc but didnt feel "intimidating" or particularly loud even though was sold out.

prospecive view of how hampden could change based on recent Stuttgart (usual questions to who funds it etc given this cost c 140m euro )





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Topic Originator: king lad  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 15:32

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AdamAntsParsStripe, Wed 10 Sept 14:04

Hampden needs revamped or moved to a new place so there is an intimidating atmosphere.


The SFA had an opportunity to do this a few years back (along with the dodgy dealings with Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.) They opted to keep Hampden which is a terrible place to watch football imo.

I`d rather just move games depending on the opponent to a club stadium but that would cause another uproar as well.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 15:34

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Playup_Pompey, Wed 10 Sept 14:59

The Stadium in Copenhagen last week was really impressive, close to pitch with steep stands etc but didnt feel "intimidating" or particularly loud even though was sold out.

prospecive view of how hampden could change based on recent Stuttgart (usual questions to who funds it etc given this cost c 140m euro )





Cannae wait to see it for the BVB game. Apparently Copenhagen and Dortmund hate each other. Should be a decent noise.

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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 15:42

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 10 Sep 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.


Best atmosphere I have ever been in, for a Scotland game, was the ROI game at Parkhesd when Shaun Maloney scored that goal. The place was absolutely bouncing all night.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 15:53

"Cannae wait to see it for the BVB game. Apparently Copenhagen and Dortmund hate each other. Should be a decent noise."

been to Copenhagen before? Its some place. Most of our group paying ยฃ4ish a beer most of city easily in walking distance or Metro out and take a walk back etc

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Topic Originator: Big T Par  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 16:05

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Playup_Pompey, Wed 10 Sept 15:53

"Cannae wait to see it for the BVB game. Apparently Copenhagen and Dortmund hate each other. Should be a decent noise."

been to Copenhagen before? Its some place. Most of our group paying ยฃ4ish a beer most of city easily in walking distance or Metro out and take a walk back etc


Yeah mate, a couple of times to see Metallica. Loved it. Fantastic city

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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 16:22

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Buster_Brown, Wed 10 Sep 15:42

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 10 Sep 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.


Best atmosphere I have ever been in, for a Scotland game, was the ROI game at Parkhesd when Shaun Maloney scored that goal. The place was absolutely bouncing all night.


I was at that one, but hard to beat the 3-1 win over Spain when Dalglish curled one in from the right hand side into the top bin




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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 16:28

Hard to beat Anfield when we played Wales, took over the city that day!๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ
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Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 16:57

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Buster_Brown, Wed 10 Sep 15:42

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 10 Sep 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.


Best atmosphere I have ever been in, for a Scotland game, was the ROI game at Parkhesd when Shaun Maloney scored that goal. The place was absolutely bouncing all night.


Yeah that was a great atmosphere that night.





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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 17:39

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DJAS, Wed 10 Sep 16:57

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Buster_Brown, Wed 10 Sep 15:42

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 10 Sep 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.


Best atmosphere I have ever been in, for a Scotland game, was the ROI game at Parkhesd when Shaun Maloney scored that goal. The place was absolutely bouncing all night.


Yeah that was a great atmosphere that night.


Scotland v Czechoslovakia 1973 qualifying for the 74 World Cup. Iโ€™ve never heard noise like that following Joe Jordanโ€™s goal. You couldnโ€™t see the pitch for 10 minutes after because of all the stour created.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 17:59

The Ireland game was great as well, lovely corner kick routine.

Sadly a boy died about 20 metres away from us on the way out of the game, thats my abiding memory from that night :-(

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Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 18:04

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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Wed 10 Sept 14:41

Best Scotland games i`ve been at for atmosphere were both at Parkhead, think it was Latvia during redevelopment and maybe Faroe Islands more recently (cannot remember why that was moved?). Both were miles ahead of any experience i`ve had at Hampden.


The Faroes game was moved as Robbie Williams was at Hampden.

The other recent games at Ibrox and Parkhead were because of the Commonwealth Games using Hampden.


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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 18:23

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WarringtonPar,

Scotland v Czechoslovakia 1973 qualifying for the 74 World Cup. Iโ€™ve never heard noise like that following Joe Jordanโ€™s goal. You couldnโ€™t see the pitch for 10 minutes after because of all the stour created.


Yeah, that was a very special night, left L/gelly midday, after picking up my future wife from Cameron Bridge Hospital, she had been admitted with meningitis.
Must have been love as she`s still with me 52yrs later!โค๏ธ
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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Wed 10 Sep 20:29

Hampden is pretty poor but donโ€™t think itโ€™s to blame for atmosphere, itโ€™s simply different times and different generations. There is the expectation of instant gratification and probably demand for more entertainment (which while fair is in short supply at Hampden). The turn out and shout yourself hoarse for a couple hours generation is aging out.
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Topic Originator: Stanza  
Date:   Thu 11 Sep 09:29

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WarringtonPar, Wed 10 Sept 17:39

Scotland v Czechoslovakia 1973 qualifying for the 74 World Cup. Iโ€™ve never heard noise like that following Joe Jordanโ€™s goal. You couldnโ€™t see the pitch for 10 minutes after because of all the stour created.


Agreed. There was a drunk guy hanging over the stanchion beside me on the terracing, how he had got into the ground I have no idea. He had been virtually unconscious with drink from the start of the match and hadn`t seen any of the actions, but when Jordan scored he threw his hands in the air, shouted "Ya Beauty!" then collapsed again over the stanchion. He might still be there.

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Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Thu 11 Sep 10:15

Yes czekoslovakua in 73, bus stopoed, walking to hampden we all went for a pee in the park, police decuded to chase us. Not oretty
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