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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 19 Jun 20:13
Ko11pm
This is the big one ~ cmon Scotland!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jun 00:59)
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:02
Tierney in for Shankland for me, back 5.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:11
Working but watching.
Stick McTominay up front on his own.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:14
I’ll take a scrappy deflection off John McGinns left baw but I’d also settle for a point
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:38
😂
I dinnae think the magic sponge would help wi that botn
😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:42
Tierney, Christie, Patterson in for Doak, Hickey and Shankland.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:43
Are you right next to me Wee Eck?! Jings min
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Fri 19 Jun 21:43)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:45
Playing to keep it tight for 60 mind at least! Hope it works
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:49
Big call on that side, no real out ball with Doak missing and Hickey is much better than Patterson defensively IMO.
Fingers crossed it`s a masterplan!
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: 1885_ChillPar
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:56
Doaks tired against Haiti so probably thinking he will be better fresh for the last 30, if we are still in it. Think Hickey got booked too so maybe keeping him for Brazil?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 19 Jun 21:59
Had a feeling Patterson would start. Don’t think him or Hickey can last more than 70mins. Glad to see Tierney in. Fingers crossed
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:27
Worried that it`s all going to fall apart which would be a real shame seeing how invigorated the nation is about the world cup. I`m hoping that Morocco will underestimate us and that our players perform like they can and do for their club sides.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:30
BBC are saying our starting line-up has a total of 609 caps which is the most we`ve ever had.
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:35
Should have had, Doak and Curtis on each wing and went for it. Defo playing for a draw with that line up😡
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:43
Would have thought one of Gannon-Doak or Curtis would play.
Hopefully a tactical masterclass from Clarke. Does have the worrying feel of a James McPake side where the post match interview will be all about how we `nearly got a draw`.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:52
Why is the STV channel so crap. Anyone know of a way to improve it without a delay 🤷♂️
Im in Dunfermline but Stv on a big telly is 💩
Post Edited (Fri 19 Jun 22:57)
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:54
Tune into radio scotland and jimmy the sound to sync.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 19 Jun 22:58
Bit deflated by that, hopefully the manager has this right.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:02
Fek sake
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:02
And just like that, he`s wrong, now we have to get out of defensive mode😭
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:03
Fkn horrendous start
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:03
Hanley... He was absolutely the wrong player for the this game. Always going to be too slow. Could be Germany all over again...
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:04
grant feckin hanley!
struggled to keep in hibs team but still clarke picks him 😡
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:05
Difficult to say he`s wrong after 71 seconds due to an error he cant control
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:05
I thought the delusion would last a tad longer.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:05
Hanley is too slow,they knew Morocco had pace,how bloody stupid!
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:08
Wasn`t anything to do with his pace, he tried to step out which he shouldn`t have.
Was just a poor decision
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:12
All over the place.
McKenna and Hickey on the bench so expect both on at some point.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:13
If we dont waken up and step up a gear its gonny be 2 shortly
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:13
Quote:
Connor560, Fri 19 Jun 23:05
Difficult to say he`s wrong after 71 seconds due to an error he cant control
Not really, we now have to get out of this pace and shape without losing another, to a team that`s rinsing us just now in front if what appears to be an eccentric referee.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:17
Going to be a long night.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:25
Quote:
Berry, Fri 19 Jun 23:17
Going to be a long night.
Typical Clarke, no plan to score a goal in this game.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:34
Early reality check, Morocco far better.
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Topic Originator: plainview
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:35
We really need our midfield to be on their game this match to create something from scraps but unfortunately McTominay still looks off it and Christie just keeps losing the ball and falling over
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:37
They are a class above, passing and movement off the ball just at a different level to us.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:43
Christie`s blue murder at gi`en the ba away!
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:45
Their passing and movement,is so superior to us . Quick to the ball,and always find their man. We are boring in comparison.
Post Edited (Fri 19 Jun 23:45)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:47
Maybe that`s why they`re 8th in the FIFA rankings and we`re 42nd!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:48
Did we wake up!
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:53
That’s no excuse for basic poor passing,so poor at this level.They surely,knew how the Morocco guys would up the pace,we are so slow to catch on! I am sticking,to watching the pars,it’s slightly less infuriating!
Post Edited (Fri 19 Jun 23:55)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:55
We`re just not all that good are we? Like Wee Eck says we`re ranked 42nd. Hatai are ranked 83rd and you could see th difference between us and them. Morocco look like they could go up another fear or two if they want. I sincerely hope I come back on later to eat my words but it beggars belief that we gave Steve Clarke another four years. Turning up just to make up the numbers is only worthwhile if you are one of the blessed few that can afford to go for a booze fueled holiday.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:56
We need a more positive mindset if we`re to have any chance. Too many looking to take the safe option even in attack and holding the ball up when there`s a chance to break.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:59
Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie like
Date: Fri 19 Jun 23:37
They are a class above, passing and movement off the ball just at a different level to us.
spot on.
They are way above us. Our "BIG" players have done hee haw so far this tournament.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:00
Wrong tactics, playing for a draw against a team with skill, and carthouse Hanley fails again.
Why do we approach so negatively.
We are lucky to only be one down, let`s get some attacking flair, and try.
This is why the manager has been good to get us here, but also very lucky, and in the finals the luck runs out.
However it`s only 1 down, and with change of tactics, and teams who knows.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:02
Still hopeful we will get something! But tactics need to be more positive!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:04
Looked good for the last 3/4 minutes of the half…..but thats it.
Far too negative again, too much respect for them.
Ring the changes!
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:05
Clarke hasn’t learned, has the chance to play flair players and more attacking but no - back to the same players and formation that failed horribly at the Euros. So frustrating 😡
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:05
McTominay has been anonymous for the second game in a row. I thought he was maybe suffering the after-effects of his stomach bug against Haiti but he should be well over that now. We need to make better use of the ball on the rare occasions we get it.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:07
My worry is there won`t be a change of tactics... Clarke has a history of doubling down when things aren`t working
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:19
It`ll sound like sour grapes but this ref is the worst I"ve seen so far.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:21
Lewis Ferguson the one bright spot here. Probably his best game in a Scotland shirt.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:22
I dont think they are doing too badly against the wolds 5th best.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:24
Worse than Thomas the Tank engine in our first game? Whistling at any time 2 players got within 2 feet of each other?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:26
Oooft!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:29
Che has to come off - he`s like a lost lamb.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:32
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 20 Jun 00:19
It`ll sound like sour grapes but this ref is the worst I"ve seen so far.
Erratic - both ways.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:40
No Excuses,
we are guff.
Clarke really is a dinosaur!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:47
Ref a riddy.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:47
There you go, our female referee thinks we wuz robbed!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:47
That’s better Scotland!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:47
Ach well,got my season ticket booked for next season! 😀
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:52
Can`t fault this effort. We have them rattled. Just need a finish
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:52
Quote:
buffy, Sat 20 Jun 00:47
That’s better Scotland!
That’s the problem. We are not too bad with the hand brake removed.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 00:58
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jun 00:59)
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Topic Originator: hurricane_jimmy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:00
Better second half but that ref was murder... inconsistent AF!
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:01
We were group winners to get here but play with fear.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:03
Rubbish ref, should be sent home, awful line up and tactics in first half. Stupid carthorse goal.
But we still have chance against Brazil.
Knowing he just needed 1 point from two games, why did he not go for it, awful tactics
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:04
I think we will go though on GD
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:04
Far too cautious.Always knew they would come at us early.We never learn.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:05
We just don’t have any conviction, or anyone that can make anything happen. Gannon-Doak is supposed to be an exciting option to create stuff, but seemed hell bent on doing anything but getting the ball in the box.
And sadly we just have nothing to offer in attack. Throwing on Dykes as a target man only for him to win absolutely nothing in the air for the entire time he was on speaks volumes.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:05
That ref had a different interpretation of a foul from any other in this tournament and it wasn`t just against Scotland.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:06
We finished with Dykes, Hanley and Ralston on the pitch. Thats him in a nutshell
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:06
Given the damp squib effort in the euros I thought we’d have some sort of go in this tournament, unfortunately it’s when staring defeat in the face that we’ve started to play.
I think the players are struggling with the fear of letting the nation down, they’ve started both games very nervously.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:07
Decent wee spell about 80 min mark playing through the middle and driving at them before back to aimless punts up to Dykes.
On the plus side i thought McLean had a good impact coming on and Ferguson & Hendry were excellent throughout.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jun 01:10)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:12
Wonder if it might come out tomorrow that VAR was knackered tonight? Definitely a few things could have been checked.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:13
Quote:
doctordandruff, Sat 20 Jun 01:06
We finished with Dykes, Hanley and Ralston on the pitch. Thats him in a nutshell
Says it all. These players struggle to get a game at club level but somehow Clarke thinks they are good enough for the World Cup 🤷♂️
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:14
First half dreadful.
SH much better but we are still ponderous at times. Very little pace in our team and so easy to defend against.
Super John McGinn ? Absolute carthorse….so far. McTomminay was invisible first half but much better SH.
I would seriously consider playing him up top against Brazil.
To be honest the bottom line is we are not very good…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:14
Quote:
WYPar, Sat 20 Jun 01:05
And sadly we just have nothing to offer in attack. Throwing on Dykes as a target man only for him to win absolutely nothing in the air for the entire time he was on speaks volumes.
Not true about Dykes.
“00:49
Oh, Lyndon Dykes... The striker is up to meet the corner but can only head wide.
Scott McTominay was behind him and might have been better placed to score.”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:16
Overall I think we did pretty well - we have our limitations - we`re ranked 40 or so for a reason, so I think we gave the Number 5 in the world team quite a hard second half.
I don`t get the criticism of Clarke, Gannon-Doak, or Dykes. They all gave it plenty. Unfortunately Adams got starved, and we were careless with possession too often, which had them running at us too often.
We`re not really a flair team - we`re gutsy. Morocco are top notch. We did OK. And we`re still in with a chance of qualifying even with only 3 points - by virtue of keeping Morocco to one goal.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:17
We seemed to get muscled off the ball a lot, and other teams seem very capable of making it look like fouls.
Its like kids against men
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:17
Quote:
buffy, Sat 20 Jun 01:14
Quote:
WYPar, Sat 20 Jun 01:05
And sadly we just have nothing to offer in attack. Throwing on Dykes as a target man only for him to win absolutely nothing in the air for the entire time he was on speaks volumes.
Not true about Dykes.
“00:49
Oh, Lyndon Dykes... The striker is up to meet the corner but can only head wide.
Scott McTominay was behind him and might have been better placed to score.”
Aye fair play, he did get his head on that one. Ironically would have been preferable for him to have got nowhere near that one as well.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:23
Quote:
doctordandruff, Sat 20 Jun 01:06
We finished with Dykes, Hanley and Ralston on the pitch. Thats him in a nutshell
Ralston was streets ahead of the worst player on the pitch - Patterson. Goal apart Hanley played well.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:23
That’s the problem,we are not top notch.We think we are, but we let ourselves down with basic,passing and positional awareness.Get caught so many times out of position,always seem to be back tracking.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:26
We`re less than the sum of our parts. That`s down to the manager.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:27
Honestly that was a tough game against a team that are so much better than us in every way. We done good to get to half time only one nil down. Especially after letting in a goal so early. I would like to see us approach games with a more positive attitude. We were so much better playing a 4-4-2 and a dont believe playing for a draw or trying to hang on is a style of play that suits us. We just don’t seem to get our good club players playing at their best in an international setup.
Least we’re in a spot where we hopefully go balls to the wall against Brazil and we can make them look like Cowdenbeath.🤣 there’s always hope 🤞🏻
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:28
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 20 Jun 01:26
We`re less than the sum of our parts. That`s down to the manager.
This is it. We’ve got a squad brimming with experience in the English Premier League and a fair bit in Serie A and yet we play like a hastily thrown together Sunday league team.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:31
Learned zero from the Euros
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:34
Said he learned from the euro campaign. Can’t see any difference.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:36
Quote:
DJAS, Sat 20 Jun 01:31
Learned zero from the Euros
We clearly have as Morocco are higher ranked and better than Germany. Looked what happened there. 2nd half was decent.
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Topic Originator: Harroboy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:37
Not a great performance, but would we not all have taken 3 points and zero goal difference after 2 games. We aren`t that great and know our limitations. A similar result against Brazil and we might make it through.
Das ist Numberwang
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:42
Morocco only scored the one goal and that was before 90 seconds on the clock. I think we did well enough to keep them at bay and the last 15 mins of the second half was so much better from us. Not sure what folk were expecting with the stance of Morocco but I’m certainly proud of us getting to this stage and looking forward to the Brazil match.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:43
A narrow defeat against the 5th best team in the world, but look at everyone with their anti-agendas (pick from Clarke/Hanley/Dykes/Ralston etc etc).
The fact that there`s an expectation that we could (and should) have done more says a lot about this team and the manager.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:44
Quote:
Kdy Par, Sat 20 Jun 01:36
Quote:
DJAS, Sat 20 Jun 01:31
Learned zero from the Euros
We clearly have as Morocco are higher ranked and better than Germany. Looked what happened there. 2nd half was decent.
I think decent is a stretch. It was better than the first half at least, and we had more of the ball certainly, but largely because Morocco were pretty happy to let us, safe in the knowledge we weren’t really going to threaten. And we didn’t.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:45
The pundits on Radio Scotland are a lot more positive about the performance and result than the consensus seems to be on here. Whenever we lose a game folk come on here blaming their favourite scapegoat, blaming Steve Clarke despite the fact that his tactics and selections have got us to three tournament finals and questioning why some players were ever in the squad in the first place.
Not so long ago we were hoping we could avoid big defeats in our second and third games as goal difference could be crucial. Now it`s a disaster we lost by a goal to a team almost 40 places above us in the FIFA rankings.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:50
Before WC started Brazil were 6th and Morocco 7th in Rankings now Morocco are 5th and Brazil 8th 🤷🏼♂️
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:52
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 20 Jun 01:45
The pundits on Radio Scotland are a lot more positive about the performance and result than the consensus seems to be on here. Whenever we lose a game folk come on here blaming their favourite scapegoat, blaming Steve Clarke despite the fact that his tactics and selections have got us to three tournament finals and questioning why some players were ever in the squad in the first place.
I’ll give Steve Clarke credit for getting us to three tournaments, but we’ve hardly done ourselves justice when we’ve gone to any of them. Criticism for that is just as fair as praising him for getting us there.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:56
It seems we get in a wee team mind set,and have a mental block on the field.We think we are inferior,but that is not necessarily true,but we can’t see beyond it . We don’t believe in ourselves.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:57
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WYPar, Sat 20 Jun 01:52
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wee eck, Sat 20 Jun 01:45
The pundits on Radio Scotland are a lot more positive about the performance and result than the consensus seems to be on here. Whenever we lose a game folk come on here blaming their favourite scapegoat, blaming Steve Clarke despite the fact that his tactics and selections have got us to three tournament finals and questioning why some players were ever in the squad in the first place.
I’ll give Steve Clarke credit for getting us to three tournaments, but we’ve hardly done ourselves justice when we’ve gone to any of them. Criticism for that is just as fair as praising him for getting us there.
Do you honestly think 3 points from our first 2 games here isn`t doing ourselves justice? What did you expect?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:59
`I think decent is a stretch. It was better than the first half at least, and we had more of the ball certainly, but largely because Morocco were pretty happy to let us, safe in the knowledge we weren’t really going to threaten. And we didn’t.`
I`m not sure any team would take their foot of the gas in a crucial group game when only one goal up, especially when they could make up to five substitutions. They looked a bit troubled when Doak ran at them down the right and were a wee bit lucky to survive two decent penalty shouts.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 20 Jun 01:59
None of us wanting to be dumping on our national team. Yeah Morocco are in the top ten but Hatai aren`t in the top eighty. Between the two games we managed two shots on target. By any metric that isn`t good and it`s not some grave sin to point that out. We could and should be better than we are showing.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:11
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DBA, Sat 20 Jun 01:57
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WYPar, Sat 20 Jun 01:52
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wee eck, Sat 20 Jun 01:45
The pundits on Radio Scotland are a lot more positive about the performance and result than the consensus seems to be on here. Whenever we lose a game folk come on here blaming their favourite scapegoat, blaming Steve Clarke despite the fact that his tactics and selections have got us to three tournament finals and questioning why some players were ever in the squad in the first place.
I’ll give Steve Clarke credit for getting us to three tournaments, but we’ve hardly done ourselves justice when we’ve gone to any of them. Criticism for that is just as fair as praising him for getting us there.
Do you honestly think 3 points from our first 2 games here isn`t doing ourselves justice? What did you expect?
Honestly, yes. We were honking against Haiti and arguably lucky to come away with a win. And we were not good tonight either. I want to see us play like we should be able to with some of the players we’ve got. But we’ve no ambition under Clarke, so we don’t.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:12
And they nearly scored an OG too but “they were happy to let us have the ball because we weren’t threatening” 😂
I honestly wonder if folk watched the same game.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:13
You’re either talking out your erse or you’re on the wind up WYPar. No ambition under Clarke.
Good grief.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:14
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wee eck, Sat 20 Jun 01:59
`I think decent is a stretch. It was better than the first half at least, and we had more of the ball certainly, but largely because Morocco were pretty happy to let us, safe in the knowledge we weren’t really going to threaten. And we didn’t.`
I`m not sure any team would take their foot of the gas in a crucial group game when only one goal up, especially when they could make up to five substitutions. They looked a bit troubled when Doak ran at them down the right and were a wee bit lucky to survive two decent penalty shouts.
You’re right, we could have had two penalties, could see those given for sure. And Gannon-Doak looked like he could be dangerous, and did put them a little on the backfoot, but his reticence to put the ball in the box when he got into a decent position summed us up as an attacking force for me.
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:19
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buffy, Sat 20 Jun 02:13
You’re either talking out your erse or you’re on the wind up WYPar. No ambition under Clarke.
Good grief.
Just my opinion. As I’m sure you’re entitled to your own. That’s surely the beauty of the game?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:21
Fair enough, WYPar. I’d cut down on the Coca Cola though 😉
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:24
To be fair, I just like a good moan after a defeat. Always have. I find it cathartic.
(But we were still pretty terrible ;) )
Post Edited (Sat 20 Jun 02:25)
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:28
It is obvious Morocco are a better team with better players (undefeated in 24 games, 3 defeats in 63 I heard), so if we had planned on going toe-to-toe with them for 90+ minutes we might have lost 4-1, and seriously damaged our goal difference, which could decide our fate.
I suspect Clarke was using the same game plan that Lennon used in the Cup Final - keep it tight for the first half and frustrate the opposition, stay in the game at 0-0 or 0-1 and then go for it in the second half. TBH it nearly worked, and our GD is still not negative.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:37
Someone needs to explain to me how the foul on McGinn in the box isn`t a penalty.
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Post Edited (Sat 20 Jun 02:37)
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:40
Here`s my tuppence worth .....
We beat a diddy team in the first game (just) and it kinda went to our heads and we (the fans) thought we were better than we actually are.
The reality is , we`re not a great side, that`s it.
We`re decent on our day , ...but our days are few and far between.
This was never going to be an easy group to get out of.
I fully expect Brazil to thump us but we might get lucky and be one of the sides that go through on 3 points.
I reckon that`s our only chance
If that happens, great.
If not , hey we gave it our best.
Here`s a question..... How many teams at this tournament are ranked lower than us ?
Would I be right in saying it`s more than 10 teams?
And we`ve beaten 2 of them (recently) in Haiti and Curacao.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Jun 02:58
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onandupthepars, Sat 20 Jun 01:16
Overall I think we did pretty well - we have our limitations - we`re ranked 40 or so for a reason, so I think we gave the Number 5 in the world team quite a hard second half.
I don`t get the criticism of Clarke, Gannon-Doak, or Dykes. They all gave it plenty. Unfortunately Adams got starved, and we were careless with possession too often, which had them running at us too often.
We`re not really a flair team - we`re gutsy. Morocco are top notch. We did OK. And we`re still in with a chance of qualifying even with only 3 points - by virtue of keeping Morocco to one goal.
Absolutely this. Some folk overdoing the criticism today. Top 5 teams defenders stopped us til late in the second half where we rattled them. 0-1 to a top sides isnt a disgrace
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Jun 03:01
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DBA, Sat 20 Jun 01:43
A narrow defeat against the 5th best team in the world, but look at everyone with their anti-agendas (pick from Clarke/Hanley/Dykes/Ralston etc etc).
The fact that there`s an expectation that we could (and should) have done more says a lot about this team and the manager.
Well said. Some folk need a cold shower.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 20 Jun 03:05
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da_no_1, Sat 20 Jun 02:37
Someone needs to explain to me how the foul on McGinn in the box isn`t a penalty.
I dont think it was. He didn`t trip him. Just nudge with the hip. Feet or legs didn`t make contact. I thought the McTominay one was more likely. Some refs might have given that.
, but it would have been soft.
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