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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 11:54
On updates duty today but will keep an eye on the forum too.
Killie swept past Ayr last night in the league cup round - albeit it was a feisty encounter for the rugby park men ~ let’s see if we can do the same against the Staggies.
If ye get the team lines before me please post them thanks.
Mon the Pars!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 16:55)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Aug 12:05
I noticed Hammy came on as a sub in County`s midweek win at Elgin in the Challenge Cup - and he got booked!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 13:01
Hahaha typical Chris lol
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 15 Aug 14:09
Brian Graham returns to the scene of the crime.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 14:17
Your team today
Ox
J Tod
Robinson
Gilmour
Shaw
Kearney
Amade
Kane
Donnelly
A Tod
Fraser
Subs
Digaba
Abdulai
Morrison
Rudden
Oyirwoth
Bray
Lobban
Cooper
Adams
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 15 Aug 14:33
Probably same formation. See if we can be on the front foot from the off
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 15 Aug 14:39
Squad looking quite strong now with Turley as well to come in
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 14:42
That is quite a line up and bench for us now. Some quality to come off the bench, looking forward to seeing Oyilworth getting half an hour run out when we’re three nil up 😝
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:06
Not started very well this week.
they`ve missed a v.g chance and hit the post, c`mon pars
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 15:08)
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:10
Lucky not to be 2-0 down
G.B
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:24
So It`ll be another bollocking at half time...again.
Notoriously slow starters
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:29
Not there today so relying on BBC and dot net for updates
According to the beeb we have finally woken up , but our passing is sloppy and we have actually had a shot at goals
FFS pars cmon
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:31
Kearney having a mare so far…
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:32
Being outplayed. Very lucky it’s still goalless.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:47
Saw enough from last week to know that the lineup isn`t working going forward and it`s more of a continuation, time to make some changes Neil.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:48
Dross
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:48
Very poor first half. Horrible first 10 minutes when should have been 2-0 down. Improved a bit but a lot of poor performances. Expect changes at half time.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:49
Started poorly. Several slack passes. Got better in the last 15 minutes of the half.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:50
Lennon is persisting with this formation. It doesn’t seem to be clicking at all.
Pretty boring stuff really.
Thought the goalposts would have been painted by now though………..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:50
Should realpy be 2 down after that first 10 mins. Too slow, and barely winning any contests. Only decent chances have came down our left when we finally up the tempo.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 15 Aug 15:52
This has got to be on Lennon, it happens nearly every game.
Was the same last term most games
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:01
Morrison is on at half-time. A few candidates for the one being replaced.
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:03
I hope there are some of the new arrivals who can make this formation/tactic work because it’s pretty grim stuff so far.
Unfortunately, as with our previous managers who had a preferred formation, NL seems to like this one.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:07
By and large we were awful first half.
We can only play this formation if the wingbacks can beat their man and get a decent final ball in, if not then it’s just boring turgid football where we don’t create enough decent chances to win game.
Look dodgy at the back a few times too.
Not enjoying this season so far if I’m honest. Came into it full of hope we could win the league but our first two league games have been very disappointing and we don’t look any better first half today.
Hoping for a big improvement second half.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:11
Missed the first 10 minutes. We havent looked good in that time either. Amade maybe the only glimmer.
Im sorry, but John Tod isn’t good enough for us just now. Cant judge the flight of a ball defensively and gets caught out for it.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:11
Formation aside if you are 2nd to everything you`re going to struggle.
They look sharper than we do, no undercooked excuses today.
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:14
Same start as the first half. No improvement. Too slow. Missed passes. No momentum going forward. Get a grip Neil.
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 16:15)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:16
Finger oot Pars!!
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:17
And there`s the goal, absolutely no changes from Lennon despite being obvious that this isn`t working. Shape and personnel need to change
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:19
Time to see what this team is made of.
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:19
Dreadful defending. Well deserved goal. We’re crap.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:21
And just like that the hope from last season pops.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:21
There we go. 59 minutes of pretty poor fare before deciding 5 at the back is not working again and triple substituion and change to 4 at the back.
We were making the change before the corner they scored from so not a reaction to going behind. That was just the cherry on the cake.
Still time to get back into it. COYP.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:22
Horrendous defending for that goal. Just totally switched off in the second phase of the corner. Absolutely pathetic.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:23
We have a habit of switching off at corners , needs addressed
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:28
Too many young inexperienced players….it will Xmas before we sort this out again. We lack any kind of threat up front….
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:28
honking ref not helping
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:29
We need to switch Morrison to the left.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:30
Another referee totally out of his depth with simple decisions, where do they find these guys?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:31
Robbie Frasers crossing today has been absolutely woeful
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:32
It feels like Dunfermline nil will be a common scoreline again this season.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:36
Brilliant brilliant goal... Easy game
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:36
Yassssss Oyirworth! Been brilliant since coming on.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:36
Sublime!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:36
Been so much better since we went to 442, we always do. Why don’t we just set up in that shape in the first place?!
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:37
Oyirwoth looked very impressive even before his goal.
Think we have a player here.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:37
Subs have made a difference as has the change of shape, why has it taken so long?
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:40
Yes indeed, our no 19 looks like a guy with a real football brain.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:41
Andy Tod misses a sitter from 5 yards 🤦🏻♂️ whys he trying to head that?
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:43
Quote:
king lad, Sat 15 Aug 16:37
Subs have made a difference as has the change of shape, why has it taken so long?
It will be back to 343 Next week though
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:45
Defence asleep again.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:45
Need Abdulai back asap
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:47
Need to score more goals too, we don`t score many
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:47
Quote:
Jimmy riddell, Sat 15 Aug 16:45
Defence asleep again.
That is a dreadful goal to lose - was just saying we are in control without needing to do much even if it took extra time
No urgency or ability to put teams under pressure
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:48
Quote:
king lad, Sat 15 Aug 16:45
Need Abdulai back asap
He’s on the bench if half fit he should have been on for last 20 mins
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:50
Quote:
Steviethepar2, Sat 15 Aug 16:48
Quote:
king lad, Sat 15 Aug 16:45
Need Abdulai back asap
He’s on the bench if half fit he should have been on for last 20 mins
Hes not going to help us score goals though
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Topic Originator: Jimmy riddell
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:51
What a frustrating watch. No urgency. No composure. No nothing.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:52
We`ve been pihs today but this has to be the worst refereeing performance I`ve ever witnessed. All 3 of them useless
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:53
Terrible defending again for the second goal. Worrying the amount of goals we have conceded due to our defence just switching off so far this season. If that isn’t sorted we will be nowhere near top spot.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:53
Ross County up to the dark arts in the diddy cup. Embarrassing. Bigger fish to fry.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:54
I’m certain the folk who were on here greeting about NL initially getting the job will be out in force tonight. They’ve started popping up again tbf
It’s early in the season. There’s a huge turn around in the squad but the core of the squad is the same. We’ll do fine this season. As much fun as the Scottish cup final was you could make the argument it hindered the league. I’m really not fussed about being in the league cup - I’ll judge us on the league.
COYP
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:54
So the referee says Ross county are time wasting and blows directly on 93 minutes? Absolutely embarrassing as was our performance in all honesty.
Starting to ask questions of Lennon for not changing things, it`s been so clear over the first couple games in the league that this formation and personnel doesn`t get us forward enough.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:54
3 minutes added on, County take 1 min to take 2 throw ins from the foul throw being given, ref blows 93:05…….make that make sense.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:55
No complaints County deserved it.
We seemed to be cooking there for a bit and I was looking forward to another 30 minutes.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:55
Awful start to the season. We lack everything in the final third. Lennon needs to look at tactics and team selection. We lack experienced players and it shows. The new players look good but will take time to gel.
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:56
So far nothing has changed from last season. We look like a team that will challenge for a playoff spot nothing more.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:58
Started to play some decent football after the substitutions and started to look like they could win the game in normal time. But County delivered the sucker punch.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:58
Why is it when we get knocked out of a competition, it becomes a "diddy cup" or folk couldn`t be fussed about it, smacks of sour grapes.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:59
Quote:
Pars Athletic, Sat 15 Aug 16:56
So far nothing has changed from last season. We look like a team that will challenge for a playoff spot nothing more.
Aye but what playoff bottom or top 😂😂
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:59
I don`t understand what the plan is for going forward, and it often seems the players don`t either. Slow, sideways, then misplace a pass, moan at each other, repeat?
5 at the back doesn`t seem to be working at all. Not sure what A.Tods role is meant to be in the system either, is mostly anonymous, needed to finish that chance.
Amade had a good game, the subs made a difference.
Not seeing much improvement so far this season, I don`t think the system works and I don`t think the players are able to play their best.
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sat 15 Aug 16:59
We really need more experience in that side.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:00
Quote:
Pars Athletic, Sat 15 Aug 16:56
So far nothing has changed from last season. We look like a team that will challenge for a playoff spot nothing more.
We`ve got about 35 players on our books plus all these extra coaches bene etc. Instead of trying to unearth someone to sell on for a profit which rarely happens at this level, would have been better spending the wage budget on 22 players that can get us promoted then when your in SPL you can be Motherwell etc and trade players for money. We love talking about the project were building but in fact were not going anywhere.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:00
We were bad, but the ref was worse... County deserved the win, bit of a bogey team for us...
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:02
So much for me thinking we will be up for it after the highs of last season
Since the Inverness game we have been absolutely brutal , a great chance to progress in the. Cup today but only one team deserved it and it wasn,t us
I am probably like many other fans , not happy with what the pars have delivered so far
Another pash saturday night
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Topic Originator: WYPar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:03
It’s time to change that formation surely. The back three completely restricts us and means we offer nothing going forward at all.
We looked miles better after the changes in the second half, but then the defence just went to sleep for their second, which is a shame.
I’d like to see Cooper get a chance to start games. He always makes a difference when he comes on and made us look more dangerous today.
Also whoever certified that referee needs their head examining. Embarrassingly inept performance throughout.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:03
It’s never going to work playing 2 strikers and Tod in behind. Tod just doesn’t do enough. Can’t wait for Abdulai to come back and the other Tod can drop out.
Plenty new boys and it will take time to bed them in but this is defo now Lenny’s team and squad and he’s got the biggest budget any of our managers have had in a lang time, he should be able to earn his money and put out a team that look decent and competes.
If we have to change out set up and formation every game it suggests it’s not working and is to easy to play against.
Plus point is Allan looked good, surely we’ll change formation to accommodate him in attacking midfield with Gilmour and amade going forward.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:04
We have loads of players now but don`t seem to be able to fit 11 of them in any particular formation
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:05
The biggest crime was getting back into the game and then conceding with extra time looming.
That’s bad game management
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:09
Dreadful. Outplayed by County for 80 mins who deserved their win. Our problems lie in centre midfield who are neither creative nor direct. Gilmour hasnt kucked a ball this season another poor poor contribution. Any player could have been taken off at half time. We need to strengthen our attacking midfield options.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:10
I agree that we`re screaming out for an extra midfielder playing in front of Gilmour & Amade
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:12
I tend to agree Raymie , we should have been keeping it tight and hoping we could buck up in extra time , blame is on NL for formation and tactics
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:16
Was very poor defending at the end from the lad from Aberdeen. Wasn’t impressed by him at all. Kane, Tod, Gilmour all poor.
Oyirwoth looked good. Squad definitely has talent, just need to find the right combination and still confident we’ll have a good season.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:16
Not good enough for about 80 of the 90. Looked like we`d go and win it after equalising but not to be.
J.Tod had a nightmare, his technique is way short of what should be playing at this level. Kearney miles off it as was Shaw.
Really poor overall.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:17
Absolutely hopeless the day. Feel like it’ll be a repeat of last season, Lenny trying to find out his best starting 11 and we’ll kick on. Not good enough though.
Special mention to Andrew Tod though, worse than a week in jail, hopeless. How he avoids being subbed when he’s having a shocker is a beyond me, clinging on to hope he pops up with a moment of magic.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:17
Frustrating isn’t the word
But the news lads Ohyirwoth Adams and Lobban were great.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:18
Weird, thought Amade was our best player today.
Both Tods and Fraser really poor today. Can Fraser actually beat a first man with his passing/crosses?
Andy contributed one ok shot, then an absolute sitter trying to head a ball at knee height.
Agree that Gilmour looked poor.
Lobban, Cooper and Ohirwoth all looked good, and Morrison looked more dangerous today as well.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:23
Wondering if being captain is not for Gilmour ? Hes hardly kicked a ball since he wore the armband.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:30
We took it to County after going down and created several chances, but the finishing was extremely poor. Lennon way to slow to change formation today, why he persists with it I do not know.
Cooper was superb and must start the next match.
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 17:31)
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Topic Originator: evo!
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:30
Only ox, Amade, ollywoth and lobban can get pass marks today.. Maybe Morrison and Cooper to be fair as well.
Second best for the bulk of the game and I imagine lennon will not be chuffed
BEAST!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:32
Don’t think the formation works for us.
A.Tod was poor yet again
Shaw was anonymous
Both need to be doing much more than they have been.
J.Tod was poor, Kearney can’t take a player on. Gilmour has been poor this season.
Pluses is Ox is fit, Olyworth looked really good, Lobban looked good. We look better with Cooper in the lineup as well.
Work to do, a lot of work to do.
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 17:34)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:32
That back 3 should never see the light of day again and the sooner Abdulai and Turley get into the sqaud the better. Gilmour looks a shadow of the player he was last season, just an awful, awful performance all round. Only positive, Amade and Oyirwoth look like a very promising partnership.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:33
Worrying that the new guys were the only ones that impressed. Lobban and Oyirworth looked really good plus Cooper and the Ox
The rest were dreadful to a man.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 17:33)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:33
Dobbie?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:34
Quote:
buffy, Sat 15 Aug 17:33
Dobbie?
The Aberdeen boy who’s name I got completely wrong :)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:37
😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:39
Not sure why anyone thinks Lobban was good when he came on. Was at fault for the second goal and didn’t impress me at all.
Missed Cleal-Harding in defence.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:48
Beaten by a team that was well organised and a lot sharper and quicker than us. The midfield three needs binned, although it looks like we’ve recruited with this formation in mind. We were completely overrun in the middle of the park, and to not address that at half time and then bring Morrison on is criminal from Lenny.
We looked better in a 4-4-2, but the snail pace of a back two cost us the second goal.
Amade and ox were probably the only pass marks for me today. Lobban looked better than Kearney when he came on as well. We were Very poor overall and miles off where we need to be. Still a long way to go, but there is a lot of work to do if we genuinely want to get promoted. Partick would have absolutely smashed us if we played them today.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 17:51
Quote:
Geordiepar, Sat 15 Aug 17:39
Not sure why anyone thinks Lobban was good when he came on. Was at fault for the second goal and didn’t impress me at all.
Missed Cleal-Harding in defence.
Lobban was good when he came on. Miles better than Kearney. Drove forward on multiple occasions. Will definitely be starting next week.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:03
I`ve been saying we`ve been needing experienced players, leaders, organisers, people that know what to do to manage a game, by fair means or foul, for years. Until we get some in that have that winning mentality, players like the Rovers Scott Brown, Ashcroft at PT, even that Jason Holt who played well last week, we will be stuck in this division. Every signing we make doesn`t have to be 19 with potential re-sale value
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:03
"We have loads of players now but don`t seem to be able to fit 11 of them in any particular formation"
been that way for years.
"It will be back to 343 Next week though"
if it is it cannot be that front 3 and id add Rudden to it if Kane has done his hamstring, balance is totally wrong. people thinking that 442 is going to change things for the better didnt see the games last year when they started it and were just as bad and had to change, the same mistakes, poor play etc.
"Not sure why anyone thinks Lobban was good when he came on. Was at fault for the second goal and didn’t impress me at all.
Missed Cleal-Harding in defence."
agreed.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:12
Quote:
nick_dafc1, Sat 15 Aug 17:00
Quote:
Pars Athletic, Sat 15 Aug 16:56
So far nothing has changed from last season. We look like a team that will challenge for a playoff spot nothing more.
We`ve got about 35 players on our books plus all these extra coaches bene etc. Instead of trying to unearth someone to sell on for a profit which rarely happens at this level, would have been better spending the wage budget on 22 players that can get us promoted then when your in SPL you can be Motherwell etc and trade players for money. We love talking about the project were building but in fact were not going anywhere.
Agree.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:15
Need to start with a 4-4-2. Good rigid system and then change through the game if needed. Imo we have to many players now but it’s good competition in training.
Lennon has to make up his mind the strongest team to start week in/out.
And let’s remember consistency is a problem or we wouldn’t be in the Championship and playing higher.
I still think we will be up in the top 3 but Lennon needs to sit down with his staff and work out our strongest team to start every week.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:19
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Sat 15 Aug 17:10
I agree that we`re screaming out for an extra midfielder playing in front of Gilmour & Amade
I think Oyirworth could be it. He was patient and strong. Cant think of a pass that he made that was wasteful.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:19
Outplayed and outpaced by a far superior team than us
today. 3 at the back doesn`t work.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:23
Dunno why we haven’t signed any experience, Lennon even noted that he needed exactly that before signing a bunch of youngsters
Effe
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:26
It`s already been said and it`s true if we want to get out of this league,we need a bit more experienced signings,not the crop we are signing young with potential.
Lack of physicality is another issue,I wonder what Lennon thought of it,or is he going to sugarcoat it again ?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:34
Worst I’ve seen us play in months of football today.
No cohesion
No end product.
Lost nearly every 50/50 ball until late on.
John Tod had his worst game I’ve seen him playing to date.
Amade was about our only saving grace.
How Cooper can’t get a start is beyond me.
All credit to Ross County today.
Nice to see Hammy come round the park before the match to applaud the fans.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:38
Hard to believe we`re in this state at this stage of the season.
I mean, what identity have the team got, how are we meant to be playing ?
I know the formation but we`re not good at doing it, but he still persists.
I can`t get past seeing...start the game and keep it tight, (playing mainly 💩), we`ll change thing`s early 2nd half and go for it the last 10. That`s all it seems to be
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:42
That was garbage and embarrassing. The referee was a joke, inconsistent and frequently wrong. Not wrong because it was an interpretation, but wrong because did not follow the laws of the game. We are practising for the dashing white sergeant, fwd, back, side ,side back fwd, side back
I dont understand why we keep going wide to players who cant beat the full back and also can`t get a cross in, and on the rare times we do get a cross in it`s usually awful.
This was bothering kane in the first half he was getting v cross that no ball down the middle. What happened to a ball to the front, who the lays of to the midfield who are supposed have moved into space, but dont.
Our golden boy Andy Todd. Does not contribute enough, nutmegged the defender first half the hit it within the keepers reach and the header sitter in the second half oh dear, he must not be an auto start. He needs to up his work rate and strengthen up. And morrison well, runs lots but adds no value, I would loan him out to a Sunday league team.
Neli lennon, this needs to be sorted or we are going to be relegation candidates.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:57
Morrison provided the cross for Andy Tods sitter. This narrative that he provides nothing is just false. Provided more than Fraser.
How was Lobban at fault for 2nd goal? Where was the centre halves? Thats right, John Tod was at the half way line losing the initial challenge for the ball.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:02
You know it’s bad when I agree with one of da no 1’s posts.
Some have been dreadful so far this season.
I’d wager Abdulai in for John tod and Allan in for Andrew Todd but sitting a bit deeper and we’ll be so much better with movement in midfield and pace and power.
Let’s be honest apart from finishing and having potential Andrew Tod is not a championship level footballer in every other aspect of his game and yet we persevere with him in such an important position so we’re a man down most of the time. His brother has taken a step back from even last season.
Agree on not having an identity, Lennon married to a system that doesn’t work or suit half players we have signed. We’ll improve I’m sure as we bring in the new guys but hard going if they are hamstrung by how we’re set up.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:05
Quote:
Ianoappar, Sat 15 Aug 18:26
It`s already been said and it`s true if we want to get out of this league,we need a bit more experienced signings,not the crop we are signing young with potential.
Lack of physicality is another issue,I wonder what Lennon thought of it,or is he going to sugarcoat it again ?
Exactly. I said after the game against Ayr what are we actually trying to achieve? Apart from racking up millions of debt.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:08
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 15 Aug 18:57
Morrison provided the cross for Andy Tods sitter. This narrative that he provides nothing is just false. Provided more than Fraser.
How was Lobban at fault for 2nd goal? Where was the centre halves? Thats right, John Tod was at the half way line losing the initial challenge for the ball.
Lobban 100% at fault for the goal. His man runs off him, gets space and scores.
John Tod gets a lot of criticism, but he was better than Robinson today IMO.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:12
Topic Originator: thebear like
Date: Sat 15 Aug 18:42
That was garbage and embarrassing. The referee was a joke, inconsistent and frequently wrong. Not wrong because it was an interpretation, but wrong because did not follow the laws of the game. We are practising for the dashing white sergeant, fwd, back, side ,side back fwd, side back
I dont understand why we keep going wide to players who cant beat the full back and also can`t get a cross in, and on the rare times we do get a cross in it`s usually awful.
This was bothering kane in the first half he was getting v cross that no ball down the middle. What happened to a ball to the front, who the lays of to the midfield who are supposed have moved into space, but dont.
Our golden boy Andy Todd. Does not contribute enough, nutmegged the defender first half the hit it within the keepers reach and the header sitter in the second half oh dear, he must not be an auto start. He needs to up his work rate and strengthen up. And morrison well, runs lots but adds no value, I would loan him out to a Sunday league team.
Neli lennon, this needs to be sorted or we are going to be relegation candidates.
Think this is very harsh on Morrison.
Had a couple of decent efforts and crosses today..
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:13
Quote:
DBA, Sat 15 Aug 19:08
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 15 Aug 18:57
Morrison provided the cross for Andy Tods sitter. This narrative that he provides nothing is just false. Provided more than Fraser.
How was Lobban at fault for 2nd goal? Where was the centre halves? Thats right, John Tod was at the half way line losing the initial challenge for the ball.
Lobban 100% at fault for the goal. His man runs off him, gets space and scores.
John Tod gets a lot of criticism, but he was better than Robinson today IMO.
His mans ran into a massive space left by John Tod being halfway up the park and miles off winning the initial contact….
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:16
Thistle haven`t loaded their squad up with raw youngsters, they want out this league.
Our owners seem desperate to bring them in for resale value, but this is the wrong time and league to be doing it.
Lennon could be happy with it or frustrated with, we`ll never know.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:19
he just signed a new contract, i think that answers that question......
couple of quotes from Lennon
“I’ve got problems both ends of the pitch at the minute and it’s been rankling with me since the start of the season,”
“Maybe it’s because there’s a turnover of players and new players coming in and bedding in.
“But that performance is unacceptable. No question.
“I apologise to the supporters for that.
“But I have to find the solutions and it’s both ends of the pitch.
“It’s a punch in the face and it’s a big opportunity missed.
“We only have ourselves to blame. Nobody else. Not the referee, not the opposition. We only have ourselves to blame.”
maybe its the wrong players that dont add to what was already here and a different type/quality was needed, that goes back beyond this summer too.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:20
Tod was also playing right centre half rather than left centre half, where he played so well in the first half of last season. Thought he was better than some today.
My second time seeing Donnelly today and I`m yet to be convinced he`s any better than Davidson or Sam Young. He didn`t win enough headers and looked questionable chasing back for me.
I look forward to Abdullai coming back.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:21
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 15 Aug 19:13
Quote:
DBA, Sat 15 Aug 19:08
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 15 Aug 18:57
Morrison provided the cross for Andy Tods sitter. This narrative that he provides nothing is just false. Provided more than Fraser.
How was Lobban at fault for 2nd goal? Where was the centre halves? Thats right, John Tod was at the half way line losing the initial challenge for the ball.
Lobban 100% at fault for the goal. His man runs off him, gets space and scores.
John Tod gets a lot of criticism, but he was better than Robinson today IMO.
His mans ran into a massive space left by John Tod being halfway up the park and miles off winning the initial contact….
It`s basics to follow a runner. Lobban lost him.
Donnelly also fails to win the ball in the build-up, so why blame Tod alone?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:35
GSJ 8 of the 11 were players here and playing last season.
Who’s setting the standards on the pitch? Gilmour is struggling for form himself just now but he’s hardly going to put a rocket up Andrew Tod to get home moving about and into the game.
We’re currently carrying a few players and that doesn’t end well, couple of players to come back into the 11 which will help but no one should be guaranteed a start but it seems some are.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:54
Subs and Amade no bad. Defence is a bombscare, and although Ox made some great saves, from my angle he should do better with the 2nd goal. Got a good hand to but went straight through him. Massive improvement need but NL does not know his best 11 or formation and that’s worrying as we have played 6 games.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:56
Another poor result
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 20:23)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 15 Aug 19:56
and the other 3 that were signed do they fit the system next to the 8 other starters, certainly up front in Shaw`s case he doesnt but that will be Tod`s fault as well.
too many players have not turned up so far, the problems are not all down to 1 or 2 who seem to be the main focus for some.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Aug 20:14
Going through this thread I reckon that every one of the starting XI apart from Amade has come in for criticism from someone!
The shining light for me was the introduction of Oyirwoth who looks like the sort of player we`ve been missing - someone with physical presence who is capable of making an incisive pass. Sadly I think the player whose place is most under threat is Charlie Gilmour. He always seems to take the easy option which is fine in certain situations but not when you`re looking to exert pressure and convert it into goals.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 15 Aug 20:15
Quote:
GJS93, Sat 15 Aug 19:56
and the other 3 that were signed do they fit the system next to the 8 other starters, certainly up front in Shaw`s case he doesnt but that will be Tod`s fault as well.
too many players have not turned up so far, the problems are not all down to 1 or 2 who seem to be the main focus for some.
Olly Shaw has been a huge disappointment for me.
Unless it’s put on a plate for him he just won’t do the rest of the dirty work to score.
He is next to useless in the air.
I watched closely in the second half when a great ball was crossed to him.
He jumped a second too early resulting in it going over. Not for the first time either.
I normally criticise Morrison and his final pass/cross is still lacking but he had something about him when he came on and worked their keeper.
Lennon echoed my thoughts in his post match interview.
He was clearly raging at the lack of leadership when the chips were down on our own patch.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Sat 15 Aug 20:33
I think gilmour this season has been a disappointment tbh he’s not really done much last season at least he was breaking up attacks
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 15 Aug 20:38
Devils Advocate- Gilmour has had an injury and was limited to about 25 minutes against St Mirren and Cove, is he up to speed physically ?
1st name on the team sheet last season, how quickly things change
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sat 15 Aug 20:40
I just hope Lennon gets this team going as it’s his team now and not taking the huff like at hibs when it was going wrong?
If most fans are seeing this then surely he has to change the formation?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 15 Aug 21:07
Lennon seemed livid with that today. Hopefully he has a bit of self reflection knowing that the shape with that personnel isn`t the way to go either and that`s on him and the management team.
As for the players, some of them need to play an awful lot better or make way for the subs that are chomping at the bit to get on as we saw today. Changes required for next week as it`s not just a one off and Livingston away will be a much sterner test than Ross county at home
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 22:21
Beaten by the better team today. You can`t play for 10 minutes and expect to win anything. The concern really is our lack of ability to score goals and giving away poor goals. Its dejavu to this time last season. If you are looking to win the league this season, there is not much room for sentiment. You are only as good as your last game, and where players are underperforming, you have to drop them and give others the opportunity. No point in scapegoating individuals as it was a collective failure, its looking at areas where you can make improvements. I think the three at the back worked last year because we had pace and strength. KN in particular could recover well and JCM was positionally good and won most headers. The balls out from the back were also better. There is obviously a turnover of players this year and it takes a little time to gel, but I don`t think that was the issue today it was just a poor performance
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Sat 15 Aug 22:42)
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 15 Aug 22:33
Turley, Oyirmoth, Jackson & Abdulai all need to start for me next week.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Aug 22:40
Who`s Jackson?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 15 Aug 23:36
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 15 Aug 22:40
Who`s Jackson?
18 year old new signing for the youth squad.
I assume he means Adams.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 16 Aug 00:36
Feel Tod was left hung out to dry by Robinson and Donnelly today, we should all remember JT is still only 19 and imo offers a lot more than the other two. All three struggled to cope with Brian Graham today however.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 16 Aug 08:53
Quote:
DBA, Sat 15 Aug 23:36
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 15 Aug 22:40
Who`s Jackson?
18 year old new signing for the youth squad.
I assume he means Adams.
Sorry, you are correct. So many new guys I am not used to the names yet!
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 16 Aug 09:26
And I should have added Cooper to that list. After a display like that, ring the changes and show those who underperformed yesterday that their place in the team is dependent on performance, not guaranteed.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sun 16 Aug 10:45
Neil Lennon`s post-match interview is worth a view. His assessment of the game and the performance is spot on IMO.
Part of me wonders about how crowd size impacts players. If we had 5.5K rather than 3.5K, would things have been different?
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sun 16 Aug 10:52
Quote:
MinnesotaAndy, Sun 16 Aug 10:45
Neil Lennon`s post-match interview is worth a view. His assessment of the game and the performance is spot on IMO.
Part of me wonders about how crowd size impacts players. If we had 5.5K rather than 3.5K, would things have been different?
Probably would have been a louder sound of disappointment from the stands. The boos were pretty loud from the Norrie.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 16 Aug 11:40
Quote:
par_33, Sun 16 Aug 00:36
Feel Tod was left hung out to dry by Robinson and Donnelly today, we should all remember JT is still only 19 and imo offers a lot more than the other two. All three struggled to cope with Brian Graham today however.
I thought Donnelly played ok to be honest.
Reflecting on it after a nights kip.
I still think both Tod’s need dropped we need to get real, they seem to have been devoid of criticism in the past but they just aren’t cutting it. A.Tod offers nothing for 95% of a game and is too lightweight and taken off the ball so easily. His body language at times as well is all over the place.
Shaw needs to do more, been disappointed so far, not getting many opportunities at the moment but he’s not working hard enough to earn them.
Kane the only one on the front line that can handle it, although he didn’t have his best game either yesterday.
Kearney needs to take players on, so many times he gets the ball and it’s sideways or backwards.
Gilmour has been poor, captain or otherwise he needs to up his game, if he’s still unfit he shouldn’t be starting.
Allan looked quality when he came on, strolled the game for the period of time he was on. Adams super keen and energetic, but needs more game time for me to really form an opinion on him, other than running, haven’t seen anything yet.
Lobban looked good, likes to push forward.
It’s still early but there are warning signs that need addressed quickly, confident we’ll get it right and I think that has to happen with a change of formation.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sun 16 Aug 12:38
Lennon is usually spot on in his post-match stuff, although I`m a bit concerned that he says we have issues at both ends of the pitch, when 90% of the fans agree that the main issue is us being overrun in midfield
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sun 16 Aug 12:43
What was with the SNW sign with `missed us?`.
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:13
At the end of the day, you have to show up for every game if you want to step up a level. Winning the league will be about consistemcy in performances. Up and down performances wont do it.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Sun 16 Aug 13:21)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:17
Isn’t pre season the time to sort this sort of stuff out? I mean I get we’re still adding to our squad but other teams inc Ross county look so much better drilled and dangerous while we still look like we don’t quite know what we’re doing.
Wonder what the players think of this, they must know pretty quick when a formation isn’t quite working, must be frustrating to work hard to get the ball back then it goes forward and is lost to some very poor decision making etc.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:24
I think when you play with wing backs the point is to get the ball in the box from the wide areas. If you dont do that there seems to be no point in the formation. On some occasions the ball into the box didn`t come we checked back, lost momentum and allowed them to organise defensively. Other times the crosses were poor or the forwards didn`t take up good positions.
We looked well off it TBH
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Sun 16 Aug 14:21)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:37
Quote:
Connor560, Sun 16 Aug 12:43
What was with the SNW sign with `missed us?`.
It was cringeworthy, thats what it was. Missing the Ayr game to turn up yesterday just shows they never got the STs for that section. Wonder if they will be there in their numbers next Friday night?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:50
Did they also bring flares with them? That was some amount of black smoke from their section then the loud bang a few minutes later after KO. I saw a few folk move further along towards the gantry at that point.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 16 Aug 13:59
Because it`s very much a team game, it takes a lot more than a few weeks to blend a good team together. It`s a fine combination of knowing each others strengths and weaknesses. There`s also the psychological issues of players from one week to the next not being sure whether they`ll be in the starting eleven, or not, because the pool of players is too big. That doesn`t help in individual players really taking ownership of the performances and results. "Getting another 5 new faces in the door" is all very well but that will inevitably have the effect of starting from scratch with building team relationships and further unsettle the players who have just "come in the door". Then when that doesn`t work right away, the cry comes up, Oh we need more experienced players, as if they grow on trees and are desperately wanting to come to a team that is struggling because it has too many new inexperienced faces. Apart from that, I thought our forwards yesterday lacked a bit of explosive pace. When we did get the chance to outpace the Ross County defence, we didn`t seem to have the legs to do it. I don`t think there is any magic wand to get us scoring goals and winning games, just a bit of blood, sweat and tears.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 16 Aug 14:04
Our goal came from really patient build up play.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sun 16 Aug 14:32
You`re right Berkey, the close season and pre season games are when the players are coached into Lennon`s idea`s.
To play like that at this stage is utterly disappointing, especially when you consider he had them doing the same last season, and they couldn`t do it then either.
It was worrying when he said a few weeks ago we were a week behind in prep, we actually look like we`re a month behind.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 16 Aug 14:39
Paralex makes a good point about the squad size as I was thinking the same thing myself. It’s all well and good having a decent size squad to cover for injuries and competition for places is supposed to…. In theory…. make players work harder to get in the team and stay there but there maybe some players, especially younger ones who may feel they are being squeezed down the pecking order……Managers job though to keep everyone motivated and get the best out of all of them.
Never thought a Lennon team would surrender meekly but we did on a few occasions last season and yesterday was pretty meek apart from a wee spell after we scored. We need leadership on the park too. We seem to be lacking some of that. Not sure about CG as captain. It’s also a little concerning when you see players with negative body language. Even Fraser was showing signs of that through frustration yesterday.
There are definitely problems just now and they need fixing asap. The highest paid management team in the league by a country mile have to start earning their corn or this season could be one big damp squid.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sun 16 Aug 14:39
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Dave_1885, Sun 16 Aug 13:37
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Connor560, Sun 16 Aug 12:43
What was with the SNW sign with `missed us?`.
It was cringeworthy, thats what it was. Missing the Ayr game to turn up yesterday just shows they never got the STs for that section. Wonder if they will be there in their numbers next Friday night?
The irony of it wasn’t missed. Held a banner saying “Missed Us?” then stayed silent for the whole match after letting off pyro.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sun 16 Aug 14:51
I always bring a small back pack to the games and it always gets checked by the steward at the turnstyle. Surely they are briefed to make a careful inspection of bags being taken into the NW. If so, how come they fail to identify and confiscate the pyros, because surely that`s what the inspections are for?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 16 Aug 15:01
Chat a few years ago, Paralex, was that pyros were being given to younger fans - who can’t be searched - then passed back to the adults once they were in the stadium.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: evo!
Date: Sun 16 Aug 15:55
The searches are useless for pyro. Ive had pat downs and whole ive never brought pyro or booze in, i dont doubt i could. Any pocket inside a jacket would do. Seen atewards search womens bags or backpacks and they just glance in. Anyone with a jacket/jumper in bag can gide anything easily.
BEAST!
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sun 16 Aug 17:01
We have CCTV in that area, so it can`t be difficult to catch the perpetrator and give them a lifetime ban. The thing flashed and gave off a bang after the smoke cleared.
The "ultra" scene in Germany works on self policing. If they are costing the club fines, the people around them weed out the troublemakers. The pyro doesn`t add anything other than potentially causing financial issues for the club. Get rid of the idiots who bring it in and/or use it.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sun 16 Aug 17:07
Last season we did well in the scottish cup and even rode our luck maybe a few times but we were prepared to battle for the win, yesterday we were not prepared to do that. There are a few players that need resting, Gilmore, Kearney for start, hope Abdulai is fit for next week along with Harding and a start for Oyirwoth and Bray, Amade and possibly Cooper. Team just seem a bit unbalanced just now and players finding it very hard to settle into their positions and just what is exactly expected of them. Maybe until the regular starting 11 has emerged it can take longer to reach that point with too many players.?
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sun 16 Aug 18:59
Is Cleall Harding injured or is he just not allowed to play cup games?
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:12
Play 4-3-3 and we will create chances and win games.
Ox
Lobban Abdulai Cleall-Harding Fraser
Amade Gilmour Oyirwoth
Morrison Kane Cooper
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:20
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dd23, Sun 16 Aug 18:59
Is Cleall Harding injured or is he just not allowed to play cup games?
Groin strain
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:40
Didn’t want to win the league cup anyway.
Diddy cup
COYP
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 16 Aug 19:57
Lost pretty much entire first choice defence between Abdulai injury and the two who moved on.
I would argue that despite all the goals drawing in media / hype attention to Tod, that, in hindsight, the two of them were probably more vital and key to the team.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 17 Aug 00:09
At this point in time, i am not sure lennon knows what his best team is. I dont, but do know a few that need to be dropped
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Mon 17 Aug 07:45
Booing is indeed the most cringe thing going though, some folk cutting about looking like they are about to burst a blood vessel screaming, just calmmm down eh, getting that worked up is wild
COYP
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 17 Aug 08:02
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shellypar, Mon 17 Aug 07:45
Booing is indeed the most cringe thing going though, some folk cutting about looking like they are about to burst a blood vessel screaming, just calmmm down eh, getting that worked up is wild
Does the same go for celebrating a goal?
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Aug 08:11
Talking of celebrating goals, the Ross County players must have taken up almost the whole of the 3 minutes added time in celebrating theirs on Saturday. That`s the next type of time-wasting that should be addressed. It`s pretty obvious players delay their return to their own half for as long as possible after scoring and it doesn`t seem to be added on. How about allowing 30 seconds before awarding the other team a free kick on the centre spot?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 17 Aug 08:15
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wee eck, Mon 17 Aug 08:11
Talking of celebrating goals, the Ross County players must have taken up almost the whole of the 3 minutes added time in celebrating theirs on Saturday. That`s the next type of time-wasting that should be addressed. It`s pretty obvious players delay their return to their own half for as long as possible after scoring and it doesn`t seem to be added on. How about allowing 30 seconds before awarding the other team a free kick on the centre spot?
The ref was a joke with the added time. He should be cited for that alone. It was a disgrace.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:05
I actually thought the added time was about right. Yes County took a while whilst celebrating but definitely wasn`t 3 minutes worth
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:06
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Connor560, Mon 17 Aug 08:02
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shellypar, Mon 17 Aug 07:45
Booing is indeed the most cringe thing going though, some folk cutting about looking like they are about to burst a blood vessel screaming, just calmmm down eh, getting that worked up is wild
Does the same go for celebrating a goal?
Completely different scenario
COYP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:33
3 minutes would just about cover the time taken to make subs so he didn`t add on much for time-wasting and that`s what goal celebrations are. They look choreographed nowadays. I wouldn`t be surprised if players practise them at training and, yes, I would include our players in that.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 17 Aug 09:40
The problem is that there`s zero consistency with added time and officials. Ross county spent about 2 of the 3 minutes added time delaying restarts and other tactics. The referee blew right on 3 minutes, summed up how poor of a game he had.
Don`t get me started on the throw in rule which referees have already lost the plot with, the 5 second rule is a good idea, but enforce it when the ball is available to stop players ambling over and taking their sweet time.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 17 Aug 10:20
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king lad, Mon 17 Aug 09:40
The problem is that there`s zero consistency with added time and officials. Ross county spent about 2 of the 3 minutes added time delaying restarts and other tactics. The referee blew right on 3 minutes, summed up how poor of a game he had.
Don`t get me started on the throw in rule which referees have already lost the plot with, the 5 second rule is a good idea, but enforce it when the ball is available to stop players ambling over and taking their sweet time.
That rule so far seems a waste of time. Half arsed efforts to implement it.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: PansPar
Date: Mon 17 Aug 10:24
There were a fair few to choose from, but the most jaw-dropping moment from that ref on Saturday was when he actively blocked Cooper (I think) from getting to the ball near the edge of our box by running into him, and then not stopping play which allow them a shot a goal. He might as well have been wearing a Ross County strip at that point.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 17 Aug 10:52
The referee had a poor game. Worse tban the Pars performance.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Mon 17 Aug 13:24
Nobody mentioned the foul throw?
30 seconds to amble over, move the ball boy (twice) to take a long throw into the box, then make an erse of it. 🤦🏻♂️
Play went on for a while before the ref called it back too.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 18 Aug 21:07
Agreed ref was an embarrassment, should be reported to sfa, do team not hsve an option t give feedback on ref. Worst bit was time added on, ie none
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