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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 12 Oct 18:03
No age at all really.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 12 Oct 18:09
Just heard it on the football commentary. Sad news.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 12 Oct 20:03
Very sad to hear this news. Hopefully the generation he inspired will realise his dream of independence from our colonial occupiers
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 12 Oct 21:18
RIP to the man who could have been king. Perhaps his passing will see the independence cause come together once again.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 12 Oct 22:38
His dream was thwarted by 2 million colonial occupiers
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 13 Oct 04:10
Parboiled. It is safe to say we are at polar opposites politically
But that comment of yours tells me we are also at polar opposites when it comes to being human.
You really are a scum ball..a horrible nasty individual..
RIP AS
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 13 Oct 04:17
I wonder how the hypocritical media will react to the untimely death of an
“ extremist “ ?
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sun 13 Oct 07:48
desperado, I was merely responding to a particularly stupid post though I suspect you agree with this “colonial occupiers” drivel
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 13 Oct 09:17
It’s a shame he has died younger than you’d think, especially after he provided us the biggest chance for Indy we will probably ever see.
But we also cant ignore the fact he was a bit creepy towards the opposite sex.
Then again, with nothing proven legally, it doesn’t require the posts like certain individuals have been giving it on socials (X) about him the minute he passed away. He wasn’t quite Jimmy Saville or Rolf Harris!
RIP
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:53
According to the Cambridge dictionary a `colony` is `a country or area controlled politically by a more powerful country`. Given that Westminster is always going to be controlled by a majority of English MPs from a Unionist party is that not the situation Scotland is in?
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 14 Oct 00:02
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 13 Oct 19:53
According to the Cambridge dictionary a `colony` is `a country or area controlled politically by a more powerful country`. Given that Westminster is always going to be controlled by a majority of English MPs from a Unionist party is that not the situation Scotland is in?
It is indeed but I doubt the hard boiled Tory will let that stop him from being a total helmet as always
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 14 Oct 12:24
The Scotch often send MPs south to help form a Govt the majority of English didn’t vote for… stop bitching over a sell out by your own folk 300 years ago
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 14 Oct 12:30
Your post implies that the Scottish vote has tipped the balance and changed who is in power in Westminster?
Can you give me examples of when the mps Scotland voted for, actually changed what government took power in Westminster, ie who would have assumed power had Scotland’s vote not been included please?
I’m 50 years old and can’t think of any in my lifetime
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Mon 14 Oct 12:37
With his last post Parboiled has exposed himself as purely a trol. He may be a migrant to this country but he`s been here long enough to know that `scotch` isn`t the correct term.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 14 Oct 13:13
`A sell out by your own folk` is a bit of a misrepresentation of the Treaty of Union. Did they hold a referendum in 1707?
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 13:58
‘Can you give me examples of when the mps Scotland voted for, actually changed what government took power in Westminster, ie who would have assumed power had Scotland’s vote not been included please?’
October 1974 is in your lifetime DBP if you’re 50.
Harold Wilson won a majority of 3. Without his 41 Scottish MPs, he wouldn’t have had a majority.
Furthermore, Wilson and later Jim Callaghan lost their majority and relied on SNP support to keep them in power until the SNP dropped the sword of Damocles on Callaghan’s head and allowed Maggie T in.
So I guess - by Wee Eck’s or Cambridge dictionary’s definition - England was a Scottish colony from 1974-1979. Scotland also represented the UK in 2 world cups in that era.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 14 Oct 14:03
5 years out of 317 hardly suggests a Union of equals.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 14 Oct 15:42
Dear me TOWK I never had you down as one of the easily 🎣 on here …migrant indeed! Apologise sir!
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 14 Oct 17:25
Haha!
So basically what your saying is that because I didn’t take part in the vote when I was 2 months old… from that point on, my vote (or anyone from Scotland for that matter) hasn’t had any real influence to affect the decision of which party governed us
Nice
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 17:40
DBP wrote:
> Haha!
>
> So basically what your saying is that because I didn’t take
> part in the vote when I was 2 months old… from that point on,
> my vote (or anyone from Scotland for that matter) hasn’t had
> any real influence to affect the decision of which party
> governed us
>
> Nice
You weren’t born in 1707 (and I guess Wee Eck wasn’t either), but you’re still whinging about it.
I guess you missed the July 4th 2024 election, but Scotland has the government it voted for now. I guess you also missed the Tony Blair/Gordon Brown years.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 14 Oct 17:54
So based on the question at hand, are you saying Tony Blair wouldn’t have been in power if Scotland hadn’t voted for Labour?
PS don’t think I’ve ever moaned about 1707, but feel free to show me a post where I have and I’ll happily apologise
Post Edited (Mon 14 Oct 17:58)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 14 Oct 18:05
Classic dafc.net to have such petty posts on a thread about a mans passing. This isn`t the thread for pathetic fishing attempts and gutter level debate on independence.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 19:10
DBP,
The 1707 reference was aimed at Wee Eck (who mentioned it in consecutive posts) rather than yourself.
Regarding Tony Blair, I’m just saying Scotland voted for him 3 times and got him 3 times. Scotland voted for Keir Starmer and we’ve got him. But apparently it’s not enough for Scotland to get the government it voted for, we need England to not get what it voted for - Nat logic.
Jake,
It seems natural that a thread about Alex Salmond might touch upon the issue to which he devoted his life. It’s what he would’ve wanted.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 14 Oct 19:47
If we were independent we would always get the government we voted for. That`s Nat logic.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 20:12
wee eck wrote:
> If we were independent we would always get the government we
> voted for. That`s Nat logic.
Depends on who ‘we’ is.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 14 Oct 20:38
You`ve used `we` in your posts so presumably you know who you meant.
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 14 Oct 20:59
So you’ve given examples of where we got the government we voted, not because we voted for them per se, but because our choice happened to agree with the choice made by England/Wales (which we would have gotten even if we voted differently)
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 21:00
No, I used ‘it’ to refer to both Scotland and England.
I would have used the traditional she/her pronouns, but I’m not sure if you’re allowed to assume the gender of a place or a ship nowadays. So I went for the woke non-binary ‘it’.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 14 Oct 21:23
So what did you mean when you wrote `Scotland voted for Keir Starmer and we`ve got him`?
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 14 Oct 21:32
wee eck wrote:
> So what did you mean when you wrote `Scotland voted for Keir
> Starmer and we`ve got him`?
The whole of the UK has got Keir Starmer as their PM. So you can take that ‘we’ to mean Brits, Scots, Fifers, Pars Fans, whoever.
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Topic Originator: Parsweep
Date: Mon 14 Oct 21:36
R.I.P. Alex .
Got us so close . Thanks for your tireless work on Scotland`s behalf .
Bobvo
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 14 Oct 22:24
Still a bit of a wee creepy man but RIP as he was looking very ill over the past few months.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 15 Oct 23:53
Wow! That is a powerful, well-written article. And the message could not be more explicit. Salmond was flawed, but those who brought him down were political pygmies in comparison.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 16 Oct 14:11
Salmond was a very bitter loser in 2014, and his depiction of the mob intimidation of BBC staff as joyous was pathetic.
As for his oratorical skills during the Indy battle ,the only notable speech was Gordon Brown’s unscripted tub thumper on the eve of the vote…
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 16 Oct 16:54
Quote:
Parboiled, Wed 16 Oct 14:11
Salmond was a very bitter loser in 2014, and his depiction of the mob intimidation of BBC staff as joyous was pathetic.
As for his oratorical skills during the Indy battle ,the only notable speech was Gordon Brown’s unscripted tub thumper on the eve of the vote…
Nice random comments, thanks for your thoughts 👍 🙏 😀 😊 🙂 😄 👍
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 16 Oct 18:49
Quote:
Parboiled, Wed 16 Oct 14:11
Salmond was a very bitter loser in 2014, and his depiction of the mob intimidation of BBC staff as joyous was pathetic.
As for his oratorical skills during the Indy battle ,the only notable speech was Gordon Brown’s unscripted tub thumper on the eve of the vote…
Classy 🙄
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 16 Oct 20:49
Aye but it’s ok as some SNP rich guy is paying for him to get flown back…🤷
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 17 Oct 06:07
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 16 Oct 20:49
Aye but it’s ok as some SNP rich guy is paying for him to get flown back…🤷
Superb, thanks for posting that bit positive news. 👍
Post Edited (Thu 17 Oct 06:09)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 17 Oct 07:32
I thought you`d maybe correct him Tenruh. Isn`t it nuSNP?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 17 Oct 11:04
And what does wings over Scotland say about all this???
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Thu 17 Oct 12:43
That’s good, I’d hate for you not to have an opinion on this 😆
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 17 Oct 20:33
It’s Tom Hunter who’s paying for it and certainly no nationalist.
I’m sure his motives though are genuine as he did respect Alex Salmond as a guy just believing in his country becoming independent but a man who wasn’t afraid to make friends on the other side of the table too.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 17 Oct 22:36
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 17 Oct 20:33
It’s Tom Hunter who’s paying for it and certainly no nationalist.
I’m sure his motives though are genuine as he did respect Alex Salmond as a guy just believing in his country becoming independent but a man who wasn’t afraid to make friends on the other side of the table too.
Happy to accept the "Sir" title is a clue....but as a true Scot, he stood up to the plate.
Man enough to put personal beliefs aside.
Imagine if the UK 🇬🇧 state had brought him home with his coffin draped in the butchers apron..
Post Edited (Thu 17 Oct 22:37)
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Fri 18 Oct 20:56
Alex Salmond, Donald Dewar, Robin Cook, John Smith, Charles Kennedy...
What is it about the best modern-day Scottish politicians that makes them prone to die early?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 18 Oct 22:37
Quote:
OzPar, Fri 18 Oct 20:56
Alex Salmond, Donald Dewar, Robin Cook, John Smith, Charles Kennedy...
What is it about the best modern-day Scottish politicians that makes them prone to die early?
MI5?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 19 Oct 20:38
Quote:
OzPar, Fri 18 Oct 20:56
Alex Salmond, Donald Dewar, Robin Cook, John Smith, Charles Kennedy...
What is it about the best modern-day Scottish politicians that makes them prone to die early?
My theory is that they are so passionate about their cause, they put their own wellbeing in the back burner
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 19 Oct 21:09
The Westminster lifestyle of subsidised food and drink late into the night probably contributes
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 20 Oct 00:52
Murdered by the Establishment
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Sun 20 Oct 21:24
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Thu 17 Oct 20:33
It’s Tom Hunter who’s paying for it and certainly no nationalist.
I’m sure his motives though are genuine as he did respect Alex Salmond as a guy just believing in his country becoming independent but a man who wasn’t afraid to make friends on the other side of the table too.
Comments from everyone`s favourite blog
“Alba Party general secretary Christopher McEleny said: “Lots of private individuals with means approached offering to help.
“Out of respect I won’t name them all but one I will mention is Loganair.
“They contacted us to say they were standing ready with a flight and would fully staff it and fly over and said as a Scottish airline they would feel privileged to do that.
Post Edited (Sun 20 Oct 21:31)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 20 Oct 22:17
The silence from the SNP when Alex was acquitted was a real eye opener for me.
Joanna Cherry was about the only MP who stood by him as she saw the injustice as a QC herself.
So many of her colleagues were too scared to say anything to protect themselves.
I don’t think Alex may have been agreeable to all who met him as he admitted himself but he was the finest politician our country produced not only in power but I’d say in 30 years.
He was always ‘on the ball’
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Mon 21 Oct 00:23
The Loganair story is touching. Good on them.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 27 Oct 13:13
I`ve always wondered exactly what was discussed at that lunch between Salmond and Sturgeon just when these allegations were first made.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 3 Nov 17:33
It certainly isn`t going away but now that he`s passed on it seems pointless pushing this any further unless there are other involved in the allegations.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 3 Nov 18:46
Having read the trumped up charges that got flung out when went to court (allegedly brushing his hand on a woman`s knee while her husband was also in the car, touching a woman`s back as she went up the stairs and suchlike), I can only imagine what these accusations that have waited 40 years till after he died will be like.
There is no level the UK Establishment won`t stoop to smear his name, even in death.
I hope David Davis uses Parliamentary Privilege to name his accusers
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 3 Nov 20:25
Sorry; misunderstood the above post.
Post Edited (Sun 03 Nov 20:32)
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